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A Deeper Look - The Gleason and Hordichuk News

The Tim Gleason signing seems like a good one for both parties. Obviously, the blue-liner deserved a raise (he made $1,175,000 last year.) The new cap hit will be 2.75M for the next 4 years, which certainly won't break the Hurricanes budget.

I think that Nashville's signing of Ryan Suter a couple of days ago, helped to set the bar for this one. Suter got 14M over 4 years and has somewhat better stats than Gleason does. It makes sense to me that the Carolina defenseman would be in the 10-12M range for the same time period.

The blueline is starting to take shape now as Nic Wallin, Joe Corvo, Frank Kaberle, and now Gleason are all under contract. That leaves two more openings.

(David Tanabe is also under contract but has questionable health status). Of course Casey Borer and Noah Babin could also be in the mix, but they have limited NHL experience. Will Dennis Seidenberg join the party or does Jim Rutherford have other plans?

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The Carolina 4rth line possibly got a bit tougher with the acquisition to the "rights to speak" to Darcy Hordichuk. Color me confused on this one.

I don't question the idea of wanting to sign Hordichuk and I have no reason to think that he wouldn't fit like a glove in the dressingroom. He has the reputation of hitting everything and anything that moves on the ice and is a decent pugilist.

What confuses me is why the organization traded away a 5th round pick, just to acquire his rights for 10 days. He will be a free agent on July 1st, why not wait to sign him then?

Of course, I have failed to grasp the concept of trading picks for negotiation rights since teams started doing it last year. Nashville and Philadelphia tested the waters back then when the Flyers signed Kimmo Timonen and Scott Hartnell.

A few days ago, Tampa Bay did a similar thing when they traded a 7th round pick and a conditional 4rth rounder for the rights to Vaclav Prospal. I was going to mention in a subsequent post about how ridiculous I thought that was.

Is Prospal so good that the Lightning didn't think they would have a chance to negotiate with him after July 1st? Would Vinnie's value be driven up significantly in a competitive setting?

The Hordichuk situation is even more puzzling. Darcy has been on 4 different teams and has scored 13 career goals in over 300 NHL games. During the past 2 years, he has scored just 2 goals in 98 games. These aren't stats that can't be found elsewhere on the first day of free agency, and for a reasonable price.

The Canes have insurance if they can't sign Hordichuk, as they will get their 5th round pick back in 2010 if he doesn't sign. But why waste the 5th rounder?

Some of you might be saying, "Bubba, what's the big deal? It's just a 5th round draft pick!" To that I would say, look at the Red Wings lineup, and the number of late round draftees. They can make a difference.

They can especially make a difference if your organization is ranked 30th in the NHL regarding prospect depth, and according to Hockey's Future, the Hurricanes are dead last in that department.

30 Carolina Hurricanes
Strengths: When an organization finishes dead last in terms of prospect talent, there is little that can be considered a strength. Brandon Sutter is the only prospect with a high likelihood of having a significant impact at the NHL level, and even he is not an elite prospect. Carolina does have good depth on the blueline and in net, but none are sure-fire NHL starters. Brett Carson has a good combination of size with some offensive capabilities. Weaknesses: With only a single player that qualifies as a prospect at left wing, there is an obvious and enormous hole. The rest of the forward corps, while containing some intriguing prospects in Bobby Hughes and Sutter, lacks depth and franchise caliber players as a whole. While Carolina can point to a prospect or two as having the potential to make a lasting impact in the NHL, it lags well behind all other organizations in terms of both quantity and quality. Carolina is not completely devoid of talent, it just does not have enough of it to compare favorably to other organizations in terms of prospects. Top five prospects: 1. Brandon Sutter (C), 2. Justin Peters (G), 3. Bobby Hughes (C), 4. Harrison Reed (RW), 5. Jamie McBain (D). Key graduates: none.

The Hurricanes traded away several draft picks when they acquired Doug Weight and Mark Recchi for the stretch run in 2006. Obviously, the price was well worth it. But at some point if the franchise wants to rebuild it's farm system, they need to stop trading draft picks.

Especially when it seems needless, like in this case.

But I will be the first to admit that I don't understand every nuance in the game, especially regarding the front office. Perhaps Jim Rutherford and company saw something special in Hordichuk and they didn't want to take the chance that he would sign elsewhere.

JR said that he wanted to toughen up the 4rth line and make it bigger. It seems like that is exactly what he means to do.

A Canes Country reader, Marc, informed us about Hordichuk's website and it is an awesome one, complete with fight video footage. If nothing else, he should be fun to watch if the Canes can sign him.

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ha! His site is awesome! He even has his fight with Brookbank up on his “blog”! I guess if the Canes do sign him his site will have to have a MAJOR overhaul!

Check out his Pledge and Pack sections in the Gameday section. I really like this guy. I agree the move was puzzling… but hey- so is statistics, I’ll just leave it up to the professionals.

by packpigskinfan25 on Jun 20, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

that website is badass. I say bring him over.

by neaux on Jun 20, 2008 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

The Maple Leafs continually trade away their draft picks and everything works out for them….oh wait.

by buglermcd on Jun 20, 2008 8:06 AM EDT reply actions  

1) Essentially agree that trading for the ‘right’ to negotiate with a potential UFA seems odd/silly. It is basically payment to have the first crack at talking with a UFA a couple of weeks before anyone else.
2) We wonder if teams have ‘informal’ negotiations with UFA’s before July 1st anyway. Look at last year.. teams had signed contracts for UFA’s a few hours after it was legal to start to talk. Clearly the ground work for a deal started before July 1st!
3) Having said that, we wouldn’t trade more than a 7th rounder for that opportunity. Most draft picks these days in the 30 team league beyond the 5th round are throw aways anyway, so giving up a 7th round pick is virtually nothing

by fauxrumors on Jun 20, 2008 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

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