Rock N Roll Train - Canes 3 Flyers 2, OT

Hi Bubba,

Can you tell me how to email Peter Karmanos?

I’m debating cancelling my fam’s tix package & would like to email him first (to see if he actually has any plausable response to the questions I’m going to ask).

Great job by the Karmanos PR team, warning you of NC citizens’ negative reaction to this BS.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/21/attorney-genreal-mukasey-collapses-during-speech/

Oh and PS, Petey K, you suck at evaluating hockey talent.

Janie: a litte harsh in your coffee this morning? :)

Here I thought the team played with spunk for most of the game. Again the flyers benefitted from some luck and scored an undeserved first goal on a pass across the crease. Glad the boys pulled it together and won this one.

Good for Patrick Eaves to come out swinging. He actually looked like he knew what he was doing. I’d have to score the other fight for Brookbank as well making him 2-0.

Looking forward to seeing how they come out against Anaheim Sunday.

—Justin

What does that Attorney General collapsing have to do w/ HOCKEY? I mean… if you want to cancel your season tickets because the attorney general is getting up in age and collapsed at his speech then… well.. that’s crazy!

I’m sure PK is concerned for the AG as we all are… but the hurricanes won the game… And they looked good doing it (the Flyers were only the hottest team in the league at the time)

and by the way… that news was like a week old…

Read farther down and PK vomited out an opinion.

A

Janie and the rest. If you care:

PK is in deep financial trouble, just like the rest of us, just with more comma’s.
http://www.wwj.com/pages/3224443.php?contentType=4&contentId=2976697

That is why I am worried about this franchise. PK is a rich man. A hockey team that isn’t winning is a liability. It happens to be one that can be sold for a pretty penny, though. The rich want to stay that way.

He also supported that shitbag of a mayor in Detroit. Look it up.

No offence to his fans but he’s as corrupt and money grubbing as the next big business guy in Detroit.

If you don’t think he has far higher priorities than this team and this area you have no clue who you are dealing with.

Put this in context with all of my other comments and you may see a trend..

Janie, you a Shelby supporter I take it?

A

As an after thought, and I won’t clutter any more here. This “front office” politics has some validity for discussion, I think. Think about the lost bonuses for missing the PO’s. The good ol’ boy network is alive and well with PK. I’m from detroit, I know how it works. While we all like to focus on Staal ain’t scoring or Ruutu is. In all honesty it has less to do with whether this franchise stays or goes than how PK’s retirement fund is stocked. If this team has rabid support (I mean Hab’s style) AND the team is a consistant PO team, it makes it real hard to sell this pig. Look at the reality and entirety and you may see my perspective a little clearer than before.

A

Ummmm…. I guess anyone who is in business is in business to make money….

Sorry Janie,

Don’t know it and can’t help you out with that.

Hey Janie,
Just for curiosity…what do you want to ask PK?
For the rest of you(that think the Canes are going to be sold) I know the Canes fan base grows every year. Just because the attendance is down right now doesn’t mean everything is a lost cause. North Carolina has more blue collar workers(which the economy is not being kind to right now) than say Chicago who avg. 21,000 some fans per game who are mostly white collar( not effected by economy as much). Canes are avg. 14,000 for those wondering and the RBC center holds @ 19,000. Some of us live 2 to 3 hours away and can’t make it to every game but I’m watching them on tv.

I come here to talk about hockey, not about politics which I could care less about or about the economic situation of any particular country. Can we get these posts deleted and just move on?

Well… I don’t believe PK is going to sell the team… even if he did it still couldn’t be moved… they just renewed the lease for the RBC Center last summer… I’m not too worried about it.

As far as compuware being in financial trouble… I believe most large corporations are in financial trouble (or at least not as well off as they were a year or two ago)….

But I still don’t understand what any of it has to do w/ Hockey!!!

Go ’Canes!

I know we are not filling the stadium and losing slumps bring are a real downer.

I, like canescup, live 2 hours away, but trust me, I watch/listen to every game, even when it hurts.

I still don’t get what a frail AG has to do with hockey. Stumped on that one.

Tomorrow is looking dicey already with Gleason, Seids and someone else I can’t remember injured…how could I forget….WALKER!!!

You can’t say that Eric or Rod are at 100%.

I still contend that Eaves is made of spun sugar/turds.

Kaberle is coming back….early I might add from a fracture (albeit, a hairline) still a fracture. Pretty sure Samsonov is either pumped with painkillers cause that neck HAS to hurt. Even Tuomo was aching after being pelted with a puck on the side of the face….and he’s supposed to be OK?

The team/coach talk about Williams being close but come on, less than 3 months to FULLY recover from a torn Achilles? Seriously, pass on the Vicodan.

Good Lord! I just got one of those Oprah lightbulb moments!!! We’ve been sucking cause all our walking wounded are stoned!!

Go Vicodan! Go Demerol! Go Percocet! Go Norco! Go Darvocet! Go Oxycontin! Go Dexamethasone!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!

There’s your first period answer!

Hmm, and I thought the entire team had just been concussed… but you’re probably right AD, they’re all just high as kites. And it probably takes them an entire period just to realize that now (as in, game time) is the time they are supposed to putting in some effort.
But seriously – wouldn’t you expect that most players get banged up enough that they would be on painkillers most of the time anyways? So most teams would come out half-baked…
Maybe there’s just something in the water at the RBC Center…

I think the difference might be….skipping the morning skate.

Seriously, I don’t think they are high as kites. When you have pain and you take pain medication, you don’t get high. I do think that they might be to the point where there isn’t a pill that can help them perform to their full capacity. That is frustrating AND depressing. No one should have to play through pain, but that is what they signed up for. It’s probably bearable for the young ones, but for guys like Rod, it’s got to affect him even if he denies it or tries to block it.

I think the passion is still there, but pain wins. I think adding new talent and giving the old horses some rest is the ticket. If I am wrong about pain thwarting passion, then bench the guys that are not performing and see if that brings the passion back.

I agree, AD, they’re probably not high as kites. As you say, they may be at the point that there isn’t much to help them to perform at full capacity, because most pain medications (except OTC ones like ASA, Ibuprofen, etc) DO make you high (as in they decrease your response time and prevent you from operating heavy machinery – and, one would think, would also decrease your ability to play hockey effectively!) So if they’re in pain, they’re trying to play through it. I think if the passion were there they would be able to play through a lot of their pain – just look at what happens down the stretch and into the playoffs. If you get the adrenaline going during a game, you won’t feel most pain (at least not during the game). The thing is, other players on other teams get banged up too, and most of them play through it with passion. The ones that don’t are at the bottom of the league. I’m sure it’s frustrating and depressing, but they need to turn that frustration around! They know as well as anyone that if they don’t, they’ll be on the outside looking in come April. Sorry to get all philosophical, it’s just that it frustrates me too. Don’t they have a team psychologist to help them out with these things? Maybe they need a new one…
:)
Anyways, I too wonder whether a morning skate might help them out of their frequent first period daze. Well, here’s hoping for a solid 60 minutes tomorrow.

Right or wrong, Lavi is stubborn. There will not be a morning skate Sunday morning for the Ducks game.

All I have to say is that Ward won us the game yesterday! He was in all star form! IF he plays like that we will roll easily into the playoffs (as long as he gets support which has been the major problem so far this season!).

Jonathan, good to have an optimist on board. Cam won us the game last friday for sure, but he can’t carry this team alone, nor can Rosie, Bayda, and Ruutu, especially now that Seids and Gleason are hurt.

I am tired of seeing Sammy play Barishnikov with the puck. Matter of fact….it pisses me off every time. I am tired of the dump and chase. I hate that we are too hurt/tired to play a full 60 minutes.

Who do I blame? both Peters. One for being out of touch with his team and the other for not looking after their bodies objectively.

Bubba, if Lavi is stubborn, he might have to go. I am on the “get rid of him” camp now. I do believe he’s out of touch with his team. I am not saying that a morning skate makes or breaks this team, but I am saying this guy (Lavi) is done here. Time for him to move on and take his excuses and lack of passion elsewhere.

And yes, Peter should take Friesen with him when he goes.

A team psychologist? Hadn’t thought of that. Wonder if they do (have one). I think it is a great idea, however, i don’t think anyone would ever admit to using his or her services. Shame..

Makes me think of Dan Lacouture. Wonder how he is doing.