Carolina Rally Falls Short - Pittsburgh Wins in Shootout, 3-2
by Bob Wage on Oct 15, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
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The Carolina Hurricanes started out like a ball of fire, fell behind by two goals, but then poured it on in the third period to tie things up before losing to the Pittsburgh Penguins in a shootout last night, 3-2. Cam Ward stood on his head once again and made a couple of spectacular saves to keep the Canes in it. One particular save against Bill Guerin will make highlight reels around the continent today.
Carolina started the contest by hitting everything in sight. The team had 22 hits in the first period alone. While they did create some offensive pressure, Marc-Andre Fleury was solid in net and allowed nothing.
At about the 14 minute mark in the first period, the Carolina defense made a mistake and pinched in too much. The Penguins jumped all over the opportunity as the puck came to Evgeni Malkin and he found a hard skating Michael Rupp streaking toward the Carolina goal. Rupp, who normally plays on the fourth line, made a beautiful move on Ward and put the puck in the net to give the Pens the lead.
The goal deflated the Canes and Pittsburgh took over the game for awhile after that. The visitors ended up with more shots on goal in the period, 9-8.
The second period started much like the first one ended, with the Penguins controlling play. Near the four minute mark, Cane-killer, Malkin put a puck past the Carolina goalie which seemed to have eyes. The score was 2-0 and the visitors had all the momentum. The Canes were out-shot 14-9 in that period but Cam Ward tightened up his game after that second goal.
The final period might have been the best played by the Hurricanes this year. After being out-shot and out-hit in the second, they had new energy in the third. They controlled play in the Pittsburgh zone for much of the start until Ray Whitney slipped one by Fleury. It was "The Wizard's" first goal of the year and his 100th in a Hurricanes jersey.
After the game, Whitney modestly gave credit to his teammates for his success in Carolina. "I have been fortunate to play with players like Eric Staal, Matt Cullen, and Rod Brind'Amour. You can not be successful without players like that surrounding you."
With the score 2-1, the Pens would renew their offensive push and started to make trouble for the Carolina defense. That's when Ward robbed Guerin on a bam-bam play with the Penguin sniper getting a perfect pass right on the doorstep. Ward had already committed to his right, but stuck out his glove to stop the shot. The goalie also left a couple of other Pittsburgh shooters shaking their heads earlier in the night.
Ray Whitney would deflect in the tying goal at about the 10 minute mark, but try as they might, the Canes could not put the game-winner past Fleury. It was as an exciting period as you could ask for, with up and down, non-stop action.
The overtime period was all Pittsburgh though as the Canes constantly battled to clear their zone and dump the puck while the Pens concentrated on scoring opportunities. The Pens had four shots on goal while the Canes had zero.
The shootout went to six rounds. Jussi Jokinen and Sidney Crosby exchanged goals as second shooters for each team. Samsonov, Cullen, Whitney, Staal, and Ruutu missed shots for the Canes. (Cullen came very close as he hit iron with his attempt.) Chris Kunitz scored the game-winner.
Carolina players and coaches were happy after the game, feeling it was their best effort of the season. They are hoping they can carry forward the positive momentum for the game Saturday night in New Jersey.
Game Notes:
- Carolina finished with a season high, 48 hits. Tim Gleason led the way with seven. Alberts and Kostopoulos had six each. Tuomo Ruutu finished with four, but got the hit of the night as he crushed Kris Letang on the forecheck.
- The Canes were out-shot 38-29 as Cam Ward made 36 saves in regulation and OT, as well as four more in the shootout. He was named the game's first star.
- Carolina got off the slide regarding faceoffs, (56%), led by Rod Brind`Amour with 82%. (9 of 11).
- Joe Corvo led the defense with four blocked shoots. Ward and Gleason each had three.
- Tim Gleason led both teams with 29:37 of ice time. Corvo was right behind with 29:01
- The Penguins looked very good at times and without Ward's heroics, the game could have been a lopsided affair.
- There was a meager crowd considering the event, (14,053), and many of those attending were Pittsburgh fans. Perhaps the Carolina crowds are starting the season out slowly, much like the team seems to do year after year?
- Tuomo Ruutu had two assists to go with Whitney's two goals. The Canes offense looked better when Whitney and Samsonov changed lines in the third period.
- The Hurricanes will not be home for another two weeks and will start the annual State Fair road trip in New Jersey on Saturday night.
(Here is some video I took of Cam Ward's postgame interview)
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I knew this game was going to be close, the boys or old men played good last night. Take out the second period and it was a great 40 minutes.
by canescup on Oct 15, 2009 8:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don’t really know what you’re talking about……maybe you have me confused with canescup2.
by canescup on Oct 15, 2009 8:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah sure...
Don’t forget I already called this game 6-2 Pens with an empty netter.
by canescup on Oct 14, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that looks bad on me but I still don’t know where that came from. Looks like something you made up. I’m always positive about my Canes.
by canescup on Oct 15, 2009 9:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I admit it… I hacked your username and posted a bunch of negative stuff… it was only to make myself look better :-P
The game last night was not bad (I watch the replay that came on at 11:00pm.) Staal still needs to be better…. but overall the guys looked like they were pulling together a little better than in previous games…..
interesting… on the Pittsburgh feed they were straight-up ragging on Tim Gleason after that Helluva Save by Cam Ward….
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Oct 15, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
interesting: “straight-up ragging on Gleason” how? Like they thought he should have been called for something or that he was too good for their guys? Or suggesting he was a clueless slow-footed dolt?
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Does that make him
a switch hitter?
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
CG for FTW!
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Frick the World is the more traditional meaning. However, most would use a more adult term for frick.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
WTF? No swearing?
and you call yourself a hockey fan.
Not swearing at a hockey game is like not having beer when going to a bar.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Just saw this, CG. High praise indeed!
(for the record: my 7th grader has been coaching me – I’m still waiting for just the right moment to use “pwn”)
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
gotcha! LOL! (or Andrew Alberts I imagine – didn’t he nail Malkin last night? It was almost off-camera in the near boards)
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I asked for Mo to step up and motivate the team, I think he did. The first goal let the wind out of the sails, but they came back hard in the third. That speaks volumes of the coaching staff and team. I think that line of Staal, Ruutu and Whitney is gonna be gold. Hope the boys get healed up, Staal was not at his peak game form.
I loved the game and saw many great things. I apparently watch games diff. than most. Rosie was hot, Cullen was hungry and pissed, he was taking it out on the steel rather than twine, but he will get it aimed. I just hope they can build on it!!
So, shall we shit on the D? I was not impressed here. Gleason did great as an individual, but I thought all the pairings seemed a little off. They were good enough, but they weren’t clicking like the forward core was. Will the missing man ever come back? Will he be the diff?
I dunno, I liked the whole game, the second period was a bit ugly, but they came back with purpose.
I think MAF was dissed, Ward was good, but, Fluery was, too. I think he should gotten a star, oh well, just me.
Are we hoping Brodeur has piles or dysentary?
A
I was just wondering what game you were watching (or what the hell you were on that you weren’t that ‘glass is mostly empty’ person that we’re all used to…) for the second half of the first and most (all) of the second.
Passes were VERY sloppy, those that weren’t sloppy were easily picked off, and the canes were basically out hustled, out maneuvered and just plain out played. Hustle by cully and especially rosie was great, but the passing just plain sucked.
I also liked TKO’s effort – his hits weren’t great, but boy was he trying!
And I will now stand by my ‘sammy should be in the press box’ statement. He just doesn’t really fit in anywhere.
The third was awesome – I lost my voice (and somehow also the hearing in my left ear…)
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m going with they all got drunk and exchanged account passwords late one night – now we can’t tell who anybody really is…We’ve got a half-dozen “evil twins” to reckon with, like some sci-fi movie.
Scary.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
But if I’m already the evil twin… ?
what…? where…?
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I know! I feel like I have been channeling a variety of different people this week…
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you on the Sammy comment Andrea. He has a few good plays in him every now and then but for the most part, I don’t think he belongs here. I hate the fact he’s on the Staal-Ruutu line. I rather have Whitney back up there.
Live & Learn
Sammy was at his best when he was with Brindy and Walker or Jussi last year, on the 3rd line. Whitney was on the first line in the 3rd when he scored (assists from Ruutu on both of them). Hopefully we’ll stick with that.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes! I liked that line, and they came alive again with that combo…
They better stick with it!
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
You nailed it HM. John has mentioned on several occasions that Sammy does his best on the third line when he’s far removed from top d-men. It gives him more time and space. I thought they had learned that lesson last season, but I guess hope springs eternal.
Sammi was carrying the puck in to the O-zone last night and somebody – I think 6-4" 217 lb JStaal just reached “over him” and poke checked the puck for a take-away. Nothing he could do about it, with his size. Facts is facts.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup. I mean J.Staal is kind of a freak, but the same thing applies. Sammy does better playing against the slower guys (who are generally lower in the rotation) so that he can make use of his speed and spiffy puck handling. And they’re less likely to capitalize when he turns it over due to over handling.
Again, Staal continues to disappoint. 45 million dollar franchise player can't play consistant good hockey without Cole.
A good fun game to watch especially in the 3rd period. The frustrating thing to watch was still some sloppy passes and poor puck control at times, especially in the 2nd period. We are however showing some improvement. Hopefully the road will help the players to mesh and work better and better together.
Gleason was a beast last night and was our #1 defensiveman on the ice, while Whitney was our #1 forward. Of course Ward again our #1 all around player on the ice.
I think Whitney, Rutuu and Samsonov should be on the 1st line and put Staal on the 2nd line, make him earn the #1 line. When any other player on this team fails to produce their minutes are decreased so why not his?
Yelle needs to be brought up to the 3rd line to be able to prove himself, playing 7 minutes a night is a waste of the talent he has left in him.
I like shootouts because a ‘team’ had 65 minutes to get-R-done and didn’t, I don’t feel like sitting there on a work night for God knows how long to see a ‘team’ score the winning goal (who ever that team may be) and it is a great end to a great game for the fans and players. I would love to see shootouts in the playoffs too, even though I know that will never happen.
C
Now that's pretty much all the Staal lovers can come up with when he is called out.
Lets see, I expect today to hear from the SL’s today (Staal Lovers)…“He just had a baby”…News flash people, thousands of NHL players wives had babies while playing hockey and managed to actually play hockey…“He’s injured, but is sacrificing for the team”…again maybe he should just play in the baseball playoffs since he is such a good sacrificer…“he has the swine-flu”…and the excuses go on and on and on. I love the game for the game, not the player, if they consistantly suck then they should be held accountable for it, I don’t care who they are.
C
It's one thing to say Staal isn't playing up to your expectations.
Quite another to say he sucks.
Really, who is a better centerman than Staal?
Give the guy some credit, he is playing hurt, he never misses a game, and on most nights is our best forward.
Seems to me that even if Staal scored every night, led all forwards in ice time, and won all his face-offs you would still come up with “He’s not worth the money” or “He sucks”
I only defend him b/c everyone likes to jump on his case, no other player in the league carries as much offensive responsibility as does #12.
Your confusing last season with this season, let dead dogs lie. Last season is done, we need to get to the here and now.
Last winter Staal rocked and earned his keep after we brought back Cole. That’s the Staal I want to see again. I would love to see Staal play like that again without a Cole on the ice, that’s what a franchise player does.
Staal’s wife is in Thunder Bay, he wasn’t sick, he was depressed.
C
The guy is hurt! Something is not right with his lower-body...
he was dominate on the boards last night when he could get to the puck.
To borrow a phrase from football “he has no separation from the defensive player”
He lacks the “burst” that transforms him from great player to elite player.
John and Tripp were even discussing this last night on the broadcast. Something to the effect of “He has yet to get his legs under him”
BTW, great job by the broadcast crew last night. Good production, camera work, commentary, and Tripp actually made sense on a few occasions.
It was apparent at the pre-game skate that he was shaking his leg to try to “get it in place” at times. And Whitney was interviewed by Tripp after the game and said Staal was “Laboring”. Staal has a ton of minutes – many on the PK and he usually has a target on his back. So if a guy tops the roster (w/Ruutu) at +2, I consider that a good night’s effort for the 2nd longest consecutive game streak in the NHL going back to his rookie season.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Good comments HM2
"He has all the virtues I dislike, and none of the vices I admire." -Sir Winston Churchill
My biggest complaint about anyone on the roster has got to be Joni – he’s taking the opposite strategy of Eric (focusing on the pain rather than the results) while drawing the big check. And it’s costing us. Staal is a leader in all regards. If you’re going to put him under the microscope 20+ minutes /night, no doubt you will find flaws. I think a broader view is needed – which may go back to last year.
What about Crosby having a skate problem and missing the first 10 minutes of the game? Talk about not showing up for half-a-period…..Sid finished up at -1 with another 2 minutes in the box for roughing Brind`amour (like he accomplished anything there..?! y’think Brindy was intimidated by that?) And how much does Crosby get paid on and off the ice?
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but...
I think we need to cut Joni some slack. We don’t know for sure what his issue is. We’ve only got media reports to go on and we all know that injuries are masked as much as possible. It doesn’t help that he never does interviews either.
Frankly, I’d rather he sit out than come back too soon and play poorly/get injured again. Especially if he’s unsure about his knee because that’s just asking for him to play tentatively and get hurt again. Having him back for two or three games doesn’t do us any good if he’s in the press box for the next 6 weeks.
And honestly the same thing goes for Staal. I’m impressed that he’s toughed it out during several injuries, but at some point you have to question whether the “consecutive games played” streak is worth the risk. But on the other hand I’m not going to rip a guy’s game apart when it’s clear that he’s hurt.
I agree … knee/groin issues are very touch and go. I’d rather see him healthy at Game 15 than in and out of the lineup all season.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 15, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree on him getting back to 100% now as opposed to a nagging injury all season to chase one point in October. My frustration is why the surgery was held off so long. Has this team not been burned by holding off surgery enough to learn a lesson. And, for those that would say the team didn’t know because Joni was in Europe, it’s on the player to tell the team. If he didn’t then he needs to be fined. He’s not playing and getting paid for it when this situation could have been dealt with in August and he could have played in camp.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
Way to steal my text message.....
….plagiarist.
Also, good to see Mo still plays for the Tie in overtime.
by Douchebag St John on Oct 15, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I lurk a lot...
….but hate the way these posts thread, else I’d be more of a nuisance to the many homers here. It looks like C and Paladin have the realisim/" negative " market well covered here.
You have a great site Bubba, keep it up!
by Douchebag St John on Oct 15, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
How am I confusing last season with this season?
Staal is hurting right now, this season… even Whits alluded to it post-game.
Even short of a 100% he is our best forward.
Staal takes the pressure off of his line-mates and makes everyone on the ice with him better…that’s what a franchise player does.
"He has all the virtues I dislike, and none of the vices I admire." -Sir Winston Churchill
Please study up on the Game sheet and then answer the following question:
WHICH 2 HURRICANES WERE +2 FOR THE GAME ?
a) Gleason
b) Staal
c) Whitney
d) Ruutu
e) LaRose
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Without looking at the game sheet, I would guess Whit and Ruu
I know for sure ruu.
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Class – Anyone else want to try to answer?
C59 – do you know? Hmm?
Waiting……
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Had I been smart, I would have guessed based on where this little quiz was placed (in with all the Staal-hate/love discussion)
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
ding ding ding – CORRECT!!!! STAAL and RUUTU.
And the Hockeymom gold star to Cathye. THANK YOU for doing your research. Let’s hope all of you learn from this experience. Next topic…..
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Dammit, NOW I remember looking at that last night…
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
+/- is the MOST misleading stat
Especially if you look at it on an individual basis. For instance, the other three guys out on the ice when TKO scored the shorty all got pluses for doing bupkis. It’s a long term stat. It helps to summarize defensive effectiveness over an entire season. It’s like ERA. It means little to nothing on an individual game basis.
What does mean something on an individual game basis? The two columns prior to +/- on the Game Sheet. Both of those appear to be empty next to Staal’s name.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
I was under the impression that +/- only takes into account play that is 5 on 5?
"He has all the virtues I dislike, and none of the vices I admire." -Sir Winston Churchill
Just looked it up C-Leager, and as you know you're right
5 on 5 goals contribute
and Short-handed goals contribute to Plus/Minus
"He has all the virtues I dislike, and none of the vices I admire." -Sir Winston Churchill
That’s one of those wrinkles of the game that’s easy to miss. You can only get a plus on a penalty kill and you can only get a minus on a power play.
But it just goes to my point that it’s a very misleading stat on an individual game basis. On the two goals that were scored, can anyone remember what Staal was doing out on the ice? Was he doing anything, even away from the puck, to contribute?
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
Was he [Staal] doing anything, even away from the puck, to contribute?
How’s about this: drawing a man (or 2) in white and gold who were preventing him from getting a pass or going to the net, thereby leaving time and space for Whitney and Ruutu to combine for the goal. When you’re hurting, that’s a pretty effective role. +2 is +2. I don’t think it should be minimized or ignored.
“Staal on the ice makes everyone around him better and more effective.” That’s a quote from almost every respected media source I’ve seen or heard in Raleigh. Whitney (the other guy with an A on his sweater) certainly gave Staal due credit after the game. Is they all just drinking the same kool-aid?
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you know that’s what happened or are you guessing? I was at the game so I don’t have benefit of the replay, but I don’t remember seeing Staal anywhere near the play on either goal. He had other good moments late in the game, and he’s obviously battling something, but I didn’t notice him near the play on either scoring opportunity.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
I have it on the DVR – lemme go check . I’ll be right back.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm back - here's what I got:
1st goal
At about 16:00 on clock, Staal works hard on the boards gets off a quick pass to Ruutu in front of the net, who makes a decent shot at close range, with an impressive save by Fleury, who clearly felt pressured. Back down to Pens O-zone, SOG by Guerin, Corvo neatly clears the rebound getting the puck to Whitney. Whitney brings it up the ice (along the left boards) and makes a long pass just into the zone to Ruutu coming up the right side (Fleury’s left). Staal was in between Whitney and Ruutu and was closely covered, leaving Rutu open. Staal then goes over to Fleury’s far right side, fairly high, drawing the attention of , among others #71Malkin and C Adams, away from Ruutu on the opposite side. While the Pens are all spread out protecting that possible outlet pass or Staal charging the net, it opens up the slot, #15 to #13. GOAL! (All of the above in about 20 seconds)
2nd Goal:
starting at about 10:10 left. Whitney picks up the puck on a turnover in neutral ice & carries it in. Ray makes a great quick pass to Staal in the left slot, who fakes a shot and then quickly passes it to Ruutu behind him. All very quick, moving the puck. Ruutu takes a wrister that misses wide, and puck ends up running around the boards to Gleason, ready for it at the right point. Orpik had gone down to block Ruuty’s shot to the left of the goal and Staal manages to get in Orpik’s path as he tries to get back to the crease as Staal continues to move low and left (again using his power as a Pen-magnet , and is exactly opposite from where the puck is), Whitney is by himself in the crease (screening & looking for a tip-in – he’s so smart!). Orpik, rather than taking on little Ray, was delayed by Big Eric over on the goal line, to the left of Fleury also not noticing that Gleason’s teeing it up for the big shot on his far side. Oops! – there’s baby-Ray with no one to challenge him in the crease, cuz Brooks was stalled by Staal and couldn’t recover fast enough. GOAL!!!!
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll give Staal credit on the second. If he pulls guys away the free up Whitney, who was wide open in the crease on that goal, that’s a good play. On the first I’d have to see it. That one was more of a breakaway, and it’s hard to give a guy credit for drawing players when they’re skating up the ice.
Or you could post video!! That would be sweet. Maybe there is video on TSN. I’ll check.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
I gave the times. Maybe IheartMASN will kindly offer us clips since i don’t know how to do that.
On the first goal, the most glaring thing was how the Pens were spread out wide over the ice trying to cover their whole D-zone. While Ruutu and Whitney blasted forward, a couple Pens hung back a bit, not sure who was the most dangerous Cane. It was very fast, and Whitney’s shot was from fairly far out. The Pens seemed to almost have lost the puck (or at least the play) for that moment, as if they expected Staal would be the one to drive the net as he had the direct line up the middle, or that we’d dump it in and change lines.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
How many of these hockey analysts would be allowed to call the games or sit on press row if they even thought about bad mouthing Staal (the 'Franchise Player')?
Staal fans just make up crap that he has done on the ice to make him look good. Tripp is the most famous for this, of course he is a paid Hurricane analyst just like Forslund is. I do believe that they believe what they say about Staal, but it doesn’t take a hockey scientist to put the facts together with some common sense to see the light. It’s all about common sense, not stats. If things don’t change in the next 5 games with Staal, it won’t take the Caniac nation with common hockey sense to see it too. Hopefully he will have me eating crow in the next month.
C
Common sense?
So you are saying Jim Rutherford is wrong, you know more about hockey than he does? Tripp Tracy is a liar. John Forslund does not know what he’s talking about. Others are making stuff up for him, and you have all the answers?
The same person with three years of hockey knowledge that said we should have traded Cam Ward last year knows more than all these people who have lived the game their entire lives?
I’m sorry C, you are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn’t make you right and it doesn’t mean that everyone else is a liar or afraid to speak the truth, or does not have common sense.
was it your common sense that said Cam Ward should never be a full time starting goalie?
Have an opinion, but at least allow others to have theirs as well without attacking them.
GM of CanesCountry.com
Well, if Eric Stall was on the Pens,
he could do all of those fancy passes knowing full well that anyone who hits him goes into the Sin Bin.
Also, if E Staal was on any “traditional team”, he’d be a “bonafide Super Star”.
I don’t mind the Pens, even wish Malkenin was a Cane, but Cindy should play basketball where all the other prima donnas who charge down the middle of the lanes do so with impunity.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
I always said Cam Ward should have never been #1 goalie in 06-07 when he played so miserably.
Ward was sent in as #1 too soon and for 2 seasons and we all suffered through it. He now has the talent and has grown and deserves to be #1. There were hundereds of fans on all the hockey boards wanting Ward’s head on a platter (especially after the Flordia loss which knocked us out of the playoffs a couple of years ago). I was not the only one. So yes at that time Cam Ward was not ready to be #1, but I’m over that now and can admit he is a great goalie for this team now, he wasn’t then. I didn’t want him traded, I wanted him as @ 2 then.
If Staal can be that player on a consistant basis that we all expect him to be for 6-8 million dollars a year without so many petty excuses for why he’s not playing well then I would give him some slack. If he can’t do this for the next 5 years game in and game out, then yes JR got it wrong. I’m tired of the sugar coating and insulting of my intelligence when I watch a game and see how he plays good/bad/good/bad on a consistant basis. If he was paid 3 million and not the ‘franchise player’ then I would give him some slack. Trust me Bob when I say that a lot of fans feel the same way and use words that I would never use to describe Staal in the past few weeks, they just don’t blog or want to be called out by blogging about it. If you think I’m the minority, think again.
When fans come at me for calling Staal out because he’s there favorite player and then make up facts about what Staal did that he didn’t do and we all know he didn’t do it, then yes I will attack their fantasy. Go back to game 3 of the NJ series when Sidenberg shot the goal from the point that Jossi knocked in with 0.2 seconds left and listen to Tripp after the commercial break 60 seconds after the goal and hear him say, “how about that Staal being the reason this team won tonight”. That’s what makes me crazy about analysts that can’t even give credit to a player who just won a playoff game without bring Staal into the mix. It’s a insult to the players around him to always put them down saying they aren’t good enough wingers to make Staal the elite player that he is. I rather have 2 Rutuus at his salary on this team than 1 Staal with 8 million dollars of cap space this year. I guess I just can’t understand why people are not bothered that Staal eats up 8 million dollars of cap space, but is not held accountable for the way he is playing as of late. Shoot me.
C
Again .. you realize only four players have scored more goals since the lockout, right? Why would you judge his overall value on six games when he’s proven himself over the long haul (in the playoffs and regular season)? Oh yeah … and he’s 24.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 15, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Also … Ward doesn’t grow into the goalie he is today without the big workload from 06-07 and 08-09.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 15, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like you have more of a problem with Trip than with Staal
"He has all the virtues I dislike, and none of the vices I admire." -Sir Winston Churchill
C, I liked that response. I agree, you don’t need a lifetime of hockey knowledge to have an opinion about a player. And as I mentioned before, you have a right to your opinion.
But to claim that the only reason people stick up for Staal is because they are afraid of losing their press passes or they are paid by the Canes is phooey. Staal is signed here for several years with a guaranteed contract, it doesn’t matter what the press says about him. Personally, my opinion has not changed about him one bit ever since before we drafted him. I thought he was special then and I still feel that way.
I guess I usually look at things in the big picture, not at a game to game basis. Hockey is a tough game. players have bad days, bad weeks, and sometimes bad months. The great players snap back more often than the average ones do. Staal will snap back with a multi-goal game just like he always does. Probably sooner rather than later. How many other players on the Canes can do that?
Staal will end up breaking every scoring record this franchise has and the man that has many of them now is currently in the Hall of Fame. (Francis) If you want to pick apart every bad game that you think he has, (when he doesn’t score?) knock yourself out.
But to say that people make stuff up to support him is ridiculous. His stats speak for themselves, as Cory said. Only four players in the NHL have scored more goals than he has since the lockout.
Another point. Everyone looks for different things in hockey. Some enjoy the scoring. But some appreciate other things, like the way a player can control the puck along the boards and keep it away from the defense. There are a lot of little nuances some people look for, and some don’t even see or want to see them.
I think that while you recognize some people don’t like Staal and don’t think he is worth the money, others do like him for who he is, the hockey player and the person. They aren’t lying or pretending, they honestly feel just as strongly as you do, if not more so. That doesn’t make them liars, fools, or lacking of common sense.
By the way, the Caps have lost four games in a row and Ovechkin has not scored lately. Does that make him a bum?
GM of CanesCountry.com
Well, he's a bum, but for a different reason...
I agree with you here Bob. I LOVE 0-0 games, because I like defense……Goal tending is good too, but I never get as excited for a goal as I do for a perfectly timed poke check or blocked shot.
Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.
Very well said, Bob!
For myself, I find that I view many games/players differently based on my own personal preferences. In most sports I’ve always tended to be better at defense because my mind leans that way. So while I like watching goals scored, I also appreciate watching good defense. Most people prefer offense more.
Some people put too much emphasis on the stats, too. In a team sport, there are often players that are very valuable to their team that do things that simply won’t show up on the stats sheets. As already mentioned in all of this some players draw the attention of the defense to open things up offensively. Other things you won’t find on a stat sheet are good outlet passes or good positioning.
by Pirate Caniac on Oct 15, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
But that leaves me really confused.
More so than normal.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
HAHAHAHA
Wanna go running?
What am I confused about? I don’t know what, huh?
Actually, I’m confused on the warm and fuzzy Paladin6. Just when I thought I knew everyone on this board.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
I think it’s a little tongue in cheek (That will get a comment or two!!). I had a lot of things I liked about last nights game. My biggest pet peaves weren’t tickled and most of what I had hoped to see I did. So I was in a pretty positive mode. That said the gang best keep up the play and get some wins under ’em!!
And hell no I don’t want to go running with you unless I get a golf cart and a cooler full to ride in!!!
A
Well hell,
If you’re going to take a cart and a cooler, I’ll be there and bring plenty of Bass and Guiness.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
I’m telling you, we were concerned someone had kidnapped him and was forcing him to write happy things. Crazy things happen up there in the mountains.
If you only knew…er, wanna come for a visit little girl????
God am I lecherous or what??
Here chicky ,chicky….
God I am losing my mind!! I’m changing the cabin over from summer mode to winter mode and going through old things, hell got some stuff I’ve never unpacked!! Moving my few pieces of furniture around, blah, blah, blah. I guess it’s a little cabin fever?
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If that is caniacgirl in her avatar,
I wouldn’t say that’s being lecherous.
I’d say thinking you have a chance is delusional.
Let me know if you need any more encouragement, I’m here all day.
;-D
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
As the Depressories Calander Says:
HOPE
The only thing keeping you from being naked on the roof with a 30-06.
Words to live by
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
On the lecherous scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being “harmless” and 10 being “reserve your spot on to catch a predator” that was about a 4. Which is about “I’d avoid you on public transportation”. :)
If it had been in person, it would have been worse. But since I know you’re safely up there in the mountains and I’m…not, it was only a 4.
No I’m banjo free at the moment. Is that like his theme music? The kind that plays in the background as the creepy guy comes up behind the girl?
I think it was a Deliverance poke (again before your time). God I have some movies to show you!! I’ve been collecting for many years
A
Nope, but IU do play my guitar on the porch hoping for some inbred, knuckle dragging mutant to answer….
A
I wonder what Chara is doing...
I hope that works out for you. I’m sure y’all will be very happy together.
Samsanov over Staal.
This is what you’ve come to decide? Samsanov wouldn’t shoot the puck to save his life last night. Maybe if he pretends to pass it to the back of the net. Remember the 2-1 with Cullen that turned into Sammy just skating into him? Samsanov does not belong on the first line. They finally made the right choice and moved Whitney there.
I have been really impressed with Gleason's play all year.
Last night he was nothing short of outstanding. Behind Cam, I thought he was our best player. Love that he is looking to get the puck to the net more, this led directly to the tying goal. Looks like Gleason is rounding into a bonified top pairing d-man, if he continues to develop at this pace we will have a true #1 defenseman.
Other thoughts:
Where is Rosie? I miss his constant hustle, I know he is playing hard…but something seems off with him. Maybe it’s just timing? Though he and Cully look good on the PK.
Pittsburgh’s Team Speed is incredible!
Walker has been our most consistent forward so far this year.
If Rutuu plays 76 more games like he did last night he will end up with close to 80 points.
Staal is not right, that being said he is still a dominant force. He is missing that explosive skating stride right now.
What more can you say about the Wizard? Skill, Leadership, and Class.
Cam’s save on Guerin is the save of the year in the NHL
Loved the heart our boys showed last night in the 3rd.
Gleason
Love that he is looking to get the puck to the net more…
Like to think that he’s finally taking the advice I gave him a year ago (yeah, right!) when he was the player at our table at the We Love the Hurricanes Lunch.
He remarked to us that he didn’t have very many assists and I told him then that all he had to do was put the puck on net from out on the points and there were lots of people that would do their damnest to try and get him an assist if he did so.
I do like Gleason and believe that at age 26 that he’s blossoming into what we hoped he would be.
I was extremely proud of the guys for sticking to the plan last night. They got a little frazzled after the Pens scored, but didn’t let it unravel completely, which is something we’ve seen them do quite a few times this season. Despite the loss in the skills competition, this was their best game of the season and something to build on.
Staal is clearly hurt. He looked a step behind all night and I wonder if it wouldn’t be better for him to sit because something is not quite right. I hope the extra days off will give him time to get whatever the issue is under control.
Gleason was a monster last night. 7 hits, most TOI, no penalties and some offensive production?! He’s come a long way in the time he’s been here. But hit of the night definitely goes to Ruutu.
Cam’s save on Guerin was just fantastic (or Camtastic-too much?) and was the highlight of the game IMO. He’d undoubtedly like that Malkin goal back, but he definitely made up for it. Plus has anyone else noticed how much better he is in the shootout this year? Tommy B must be a magician.
Maybe………..they dressed Sutter with a Gleason jersey and doubled shift……I know I know Sutters not a defensemen but who knows.
by canescup on Oct 15, 2009 9:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gleason
I will say this about Gleason he is def taking more shots on net this season. I guess he doesn’t won’t to wait until the playoffs to get his one goal tally.
by canescup on Oct 15, 2009 9:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
5 out of 12 points
6 games in,
5 points to show,
3 losses to 3 top teams in east,
1 loss to TB,
1 win against a sleepwalking team (florida),
Staal looks staalled
When does this team wake up?
I love the Canes but they drive me nuts and yes the cups half empty thus far.
I ready to see the potential we all know this team has………..
They woke up last night
Or at least partially did. Last night, like Caniacgirl said above, they finally played their game for an extended period of time. No, it’s wasn’t 60 minutes, and no, the defense isn’t where it needs to be, but it was a major step in the right direction. If they would have played as well against Tampa on Saturday as they did against Pittsburgh last night the Canes would have walked out of Tampa with two points.
And to be fair, the team has struggled, played three of the top teams in the conference through six games and is only 1 point below .500. You switch that Tampa game around and have the Canes sitting 1 point above .500 and you’re talking about a pretty decent start. There’s work to be done, but after last night it looks like this team is on the right track. Now they need to keep it going, at least at the level of last night, against the Devils on Saturday.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
Agree C-Leaguer
I agree with you, I’m just ready for them to put it together for sixty minutes in a row, several games in a row. All the woulda, coulda, shoulda still leaves us behind where we should be and I don’t want to see us fall too far behind.
I can’t wait to see the real Canes play like we know they can. Kicking the Devils around is a great place to start.
by Canes Pucknut on Oct 15, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Ward and Staal
I have to give Ward (Cam) a lot of credit. He was fighting it early. Neither one of the goals he gave up were particularly soft, but he was never quite sure of where the puck was early in the game. In some respects I think that helped him against Pittsburgh by forcing him to rely on positioning and not overplaying like he has the last couple of games. He did a good job of struggling through a rough patch and finding his game. The save on Guerrin in the third and Malkin in OT gave the team every opportunity to come out of that game with two points. That’s a big jump from where he’s been in years past.
Staal was clearly still sick last night. Staal who coasts too much for my money on most nights, was coasting a lot more than usual. He found some source of energy (adrenaline, red bull, something) late in the game and was a force late. I don’t understand using him sixth in the shoot out. He got cold waiting that long then made a poor decision on his shot. Yes, the five whole opened a bit, but not enough from where he took the shot, and not enough to not try to move Fluerry side to side which every previous shooter was able to do with varying degrees of success. You have to know a guy with a sickness is going to get cold, so he has to either go out early, or not go. That’s a coaching decision, and since the coaches don’t like to use Staal on the shoot out, I don’t understand why they didn’t just go with the next best option, even if that was Corvo or Brindy or Rosey.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
Think what Staal found was the Wizard on his line.
Sammy and Staal have never had real chemistry.
Sammy has chemistry with Roddy, and benefits from playing against less demanding matchups, we saw this repeatedly in the playoffs last year.
Whitney deserves to play on the top line, as does Rutuu.
I liked the Sammy experiment on the first line. He was shooting the puck a lot in pre-season and the first couple of games. He’s very dangerous when he shoots the puck. Putting him with Staal who could get him the puck I thought was worth a try, especially when the offense was struggling so much.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
Yeah, I was very disappointed in Sammy being on the first line. Just never understood that, myself. Whitney clearly should be there over Sammy. No questions asked. They both are small, but Ray can handle the pressure a lot better than Sammy can.
The only other one available I wouldn’t mind seeing tested out on the first line would be Jussi. Give him a chance to be the sniper on the first line to help out Staal. Not to mention he and Ruutu had some awesome chemistry last year when playing on the same line.
by Pirate Caniac on Oct 15, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Die-hard Pens fan...
…and I gotta say, fun game! The ‘Canes will be fine, they’re really starting to come around. Look forward to seeing more of the “Eric & Jordan Staal are brothers” stories in the playoffs.
Overtime rules
How long do we have to complain about the current overtime rules before anyone listens/cares?
Should Pittsburgh really get the same amount of points as a regulation win just because their 6th shootout guy was better than our 6th?
If a game begins as being worth 2 points, then shouldn’t it end the same way? Make a regulation win 3 points, OT win 2 and OT loss 1. It’s that simple.
Still not a crook!
The three point system just allows teams to be in the race longer. I cannot express how opposed I am to the system. If games are worth two points then they should end in a tie.
And, if you think Pitt’s sixth shootout guy being better than ours being a reasonable way of determining who got two points then let me ask you who scored the 4 goals for Pitt in games 6 and 7 of the cup finals. The answer: Jordan Staal and Tyler Kennedy in game 6 and then Maxime Talbot with both goals in game 7. If depth is good enough to win a championship then depth is good enough to determine who gets a second point.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
Did they go to a shootout in games 6 and 7 of the cup finals?
I understand using the shootout during the regular season in order to avoid having ties and keeping the games to a manageable length, but it should in no way count the same as a regulation win.
Still not a crook!
So depth doesn’t matter? Depth wins games all the time, be it in shoot outs or when Chad LaRose scores a game winner.
As for the three point system, what is the point of the shoot out in a three point system? At that point it really is just a skills competition.
The fact is with the current system a game ends in a tie after regulation and then the two teams play for a bonus point in a non-standard manner, be it 4 on 4 hockey or in a shoot out. In your three point system would the team get three points if they won in OT and the other team get none? Would it be 4 on 4 hockey instead of 5 on 5. If it is 4 on 4 how can you claim that 4 on 4 hockey is equal to 5 on 5? Sure it’s nice that there are three points up for every game and exactly three points and no more than three points and no less than three points, but outside of some simple mathematical symmetry, it has no value.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
6th shooter in a shootout does not equal depth, that is just absurd. By the time you’re getting to the 6th guy in a shootout it’s more about fatigue and luck, two traits I don’t think should be used to determine who gets the full points in a contest.
When the actual game of hockey was played last night we were equal to the Penguins. They however get the maximum points in the standings because a skills competition deteriorated into a war of attrition.
Still not a crook!
What about getting to a 6th guy doesn’t mean depth to you? That is the exact meaning of depth. Have guys down the line that can score and provide assistance. This isn’t Marek Malik shooting. This is player #6. That’s the top two lines. I mean, I can make a very strong argument that #6 isn’t even getting to the depth players yet.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
To add to that I can remember a game in 05-06 where Nic Wallin was awarded a penalty shot in over time that he converted on to give the Canes the win. Nic Wallin who is so far down he wouldn’t even be considered depth. If 6 is too deep for a shoot out then what are your thoughts on a Nic Walline OT penalty shot? Should the Canes have not gotten a point because Nic Wallin scored on a penalty shot?
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
Oh and C-Leaguer
“wouldn’t even be considered depth”
I got two ways to go on that.
One Wallin has the depth of pond scum, granted, he should be counted as a depth guy. Point two, the roster is only a couple dozen heads deep, isn’t everyone, even Wallin considered a point on the “Depth Chart”?
I think of all the players on the roster as the main team and they have an amount skill as you go down the line. Depth if you will. I think the real depth is the call up crew from Albany, I think that’s a true measure of a teams depth.
My .02, sorry, I’m bored!!
A
Every team has 23 guys and dresses 20 for a game. We all know that. I think that most every team has a good first line and a decent first pair defense. Guys after that start to be depth (2nd and 3rd lines, 2nd pair). Guys after that are bodies (3rd pair, 4th line) either because they have wholes in their game or they are one dimensional (face off specialist coughYanicPerraultcough or PKers). Some guys in those bodies roles can be depth players. Yelle clearly is and so is TKO.
I don’t really consider AHL guys on depth, which is funny because I consider minor leaguers in baseball depth players. I cannot tell you why I make the difference. Maybe it’s the one on one nature of baseball. A one-dimensional player, say a pinch hitter, in baseball can do more than a one-dimensional player in hockey. But for my thinking to be true all AHL players would have to be one-dimensional players, which is somewhat true given the skill sets and ages, but not completely.
In brief, that’s an interesting thought and I need to consider that amongst all my other hockey thoughts and see how it stacks up.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
Do not mock,.....
….the legend that is Yanic Perrault. I think I am going to go pick him up for my fantasy team right now for the Face-off Wins.
by Douchebag St John on Oct 15, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
More of a thought experiment. If Wallin can get a point for a penalty shot in OT, what’s the problem with a #6 guy doing it in a shoot out. There’s not much difference between an OT penalty shot and a shoot out. If Wallin scoring is okay, what’s wrong with guy #6 scoring in the shoot out?
Depth guys win games all the time. That’s what I was getting at with pointing out who on the Pens scored in games 6 and 7 of the Cup finals. Depth is so important in hockey, and even more so in the playoffs. Saying guy # 6 was too far down the line to get the extra point is ludicrous. If Max Talbot can be responsible for the Pens getting a cup (with maybe just a bit of help from Fluerry) then anyone can be responsible for a win in the regular season, be it regulation or overtime.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
The difference is the multiple definations of depth you are interchanging at will. Depth on a hockey team is important, shootout depth is a different issue. Sure it’s important, but this discussion has completely degenerated from my original point.
My entire issue with the shootout system is not that we use it to determine games, it’s the point system that is awarded to the winner. In my opinion, a team that blows a lead and finally wins a shootout with their 6th shooter shouldn’t be awarded the same points as a team who is able to close out a game in regulation.
Still not a crook!
If you don’t like the two point system then tell me how the three point system is better other than the mathematical symmetry I pointed out above? How would it change things for the better?
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
If the NHL is comfortable enough in saying that an overtime loss is “better” than a regulation loss, than to me logic would imply that an overtime win is “worse” than a regulation win.
Still not a crook!
Well, let’s just trade the point for the extra we earned in the SO win over TB and call it even.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that’s a cop out answer. And, a regulation loss is different than OT loss because regulation is 5 on 5 and OT is 4 on 4. All of OT is now a skills competition, be it 4 on 4 or a shoot out.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
Caught a little bit of the game on NHL network.
While at the gym. Nice push by the ’Canes in the beginning. That first goal to Pittsburgh really seemed to deflate the place though.
I WON!
Anybody go by the “Win an autograph Cam Ward Picture” in the booth “manned” by two Stromtroopers?
I won!
So how many others did too?
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Where was this booth? I didn’t see it last night, but I didn’t walk around the lower level concourse much.
5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!
I don’t remember. I am getting old. Ask Paladin6 about my confusion.
I forget, I think it was near the 99 the fan booth but on the interior side.
Since my seats are on the 300 level, sniff sniff, I really don’t pay too much attention.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Sure,
I’ll be picking it up today after work.
Got’s me a scanner and everything.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
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A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Nope,
not that old. Ask a real old timer.
Caniacgirl, can you answer it?
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Am not....
and I figured that caniacgirl is far more mature than either one of us.
So I thought to ask here.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
In other words,
We’ve out grown Elementary School.
My mom would be so proud.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Something many woman say they're looking for in a guy
when most, if not almost all of them, want that bad boy kind of guy.
Note HMO2’s fascination with Ruutu.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
I dunno about that. Not that I have a clue what women want, but if it were the bad boy thing, I’d have more of a social life than this blog. I think they are just a little more complicated versions of us. Guys need food, water, sex and many times, shelter. Not always in that order. I reckon chicks are about the same, they just need to share it with someone they think isn’t an asshole, whether they really are or not.
Oh well back to house work. Man that was real bad ass sounding… lesse…
Well back to tearing phone books!! Yea, that’s it!! With one hand!!
A
I think if you crack the code,
ie, being able to figure out what women want, you are taken somewhere and never heard from again.
It’s anyone’s guess if it’s a good or bad thing.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Kindas like that Muslim thing with the virgins, not sure whether that’s Heaven or Hell!!
They’ll tell you black is reall whaite, the moon is just a sun at night….
The world is full of Kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams
It’s Heaven and Hell
By Black Sabbath
Yea, I play guitar, too!!
It’s amazing how much useless crap I know…
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You're almost dead on.
Combine maturity with just a little bad boy (as long as we can take you out in public without fear of humiliation) and you’ve got yourself a winner.
Saw the movie but,
I didn’t find Bo Derek that impressive.
Give me a woman with brains anyday. I don’t do stupid.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
while Ravel’s Bolero plays. She’s in dredlocks. Favorite poster girl for the boys, following Farrah Fawcett, when I was in middle school.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
What a thread this has become!
Someone tell Bob and Cory to do some work and get some new posts up!
Still not a crook!
I think we needed a back to back game tonight.....
guess I’ll have to watch the craps tonight maybe they will lose 5 in a row. This way we have a chance to catch them.
I think I’ve earned my paycheck today…..Besides I had more challenge playing commenter than author today. This has been some of the meatier commnets we’ve had in a long time. (other than CG taking on the whole lecherous contingent single-handedly and pwn’ing them with humor and flair) I’ve collect a few nice items and will get something up by lunch tomorrow. (Can’t believe I’m apologizing!!!)
BTW – I saw on twitter than Staal, Whitney, Ward, Cullen and were not at practice. However, Joni Pitkanen skated with the team for the first time since before TBL #1. Check out the Canes twitter Feed that Harwood has in the left rail for a few more nuggets. (Like #15 centering 14 and 59)
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If CG couldn't take on the "lecherous" contigent here
then I feel sorry for her.
If you want lecherous behavior, I work in a place with nothing but a bunch of Server, Desktop and Network nerds.
I won’t let my daughters visit.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Oh and in an effort to get this back on track, glad to hear Joni is back on the ice. I read that he’s still unsure for Saturday-they’d know more tomorrow. But it’s something. The big 4 were reportedly out for “maintenance reasons”. As far as Whitney and Ward go, I figure they’ve earned a day off.
Duh, if I had bothered to read all the way to the end of this… I suppose you could ignore my comment below
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
pwn'ing pwn-ing pwning
was it correct to add in the apostrophe or should it have been hyphenated or all one word? I couldn’t find it in the AP style guide.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Oct 15, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm…that’s a good question. It’s definitely not a hyphen. I think the apostrophe is optional. Pwn’d and pwnd are both correct.
And this concludes my urban dictionary lesson of the day…
Is a hockey blog really the correct forum for a discussion like this?
Ovenchicken is looking for a hat trick tonight and in the battle between Eaves and justin Williams, Eaves is looking better, go figure…
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I really, REALLY want to argue that point…
Damned if I can come up with one that sounds even remotely sane, though..
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Didn’t work for me, “hockey fans aren’t like other fans”. There is the enemy and us, but we are all better than than any other mere mortal sports fan. I guess I don’t think along gender lines, well that and I have no earthly idea what you are talking about.
;-) ignorant, but honest!
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We (the women on here) tend to lapse into non-hockey related discussions (well they are about players) when things are slow. There’s a lot of pictures involved and very little actual content.
You, “The wimmin’” on here flat out rock. I could drive forever in any direction and not find this type.
I may not be the sharpest tool in the box, I sure do appreciate a hockey fan, particularly of the female persuasion.
Though I must question the viability of a social life you folks have. I know I have squat going on a Thursday (man I hope it’s really Thursday…), but you all are real sharp and funny and dig hockey. It’s difficult to believe you don’t have something better to do, like clean your toe nails or contemplate the meaning of a rock.
Hell never look a gift horse in the mouth and dam sure not the other end. I’m glad to know there is other intelligent life while I watch me some hockey and have the need for typing (albeit minus good grammer, spelling and puncuation)
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First off, thanks on behalf of all of the ladies here.
A few things keep me from having a true social life:
*I go to a pretty rural school so there isn’t a ton to do here unless it’s a football Saturday.
*17 credit hours plus a part time job leave very little time for socializing. Add in sleeping and studying, and you’ve basically got my week.
*No one else understands the obsession with hockey; not even the guys.
As for the nails, I did mine yesterday. :D
Girlfriend you keep it up and take nothing less than what you feel you deserve. You got the world by the short hairs.
Hockey isn’t a guy or girl thing. It’s closer to a religion. You just live in an area that thinks college basketball is a real sport and not really just collegiate athletics.
You are what all guys want, cool, confident, mysterious, strong and a friggin’ Sutter fan. I guess the down side is most guys your age are blinded by hormones.
Sheeit, wish my life were half that good!!! Well I am a Sutter fan…
Anyway, youhave a life that is soooo full, you still find time to grace us with parts of it when you get a chance. Andrea just defended her thesis, you are on a similar path. Anyone that hasn’t been down that path has no idea. To do that and still have anything left like a strong passion for hockey is inspiring. I went through the military and know what it takes to be something disciplined. Harwood and the crew here are my circle of friends and I don’t know that I have met any of them. I do feel a bond, though. That’s what seperates hockey fans from the rest of the pack. Instant karma, unless your a sabres fan, then you can go suck eggs.
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Hell, this whole hockey thing is what distracted me for many months from that itch in the back of my throat that can only be scratched with a 12 gauge…
And let me tell you, it was one helluva long summer…
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
When I was at C-town...
there were plenty of hockey fans. A good solid russian contingent. And of course half the school is from New Jersey, not that they would make good company.
But I also limited my hours to 9 or 10 my last couple of years so as to not get in the way of the two jobs and partying on Friday and Saturday nights. Priorities.
They must have graduated before I got here. Or they all hang out in an undisclosed location, especially the Russians-haven’t met one yet and I’ve been here for three years.
I’ve met one (maybe two) and they’re Atlanta fans so you just feel sorry for them. Oh wait, there was a Boston fan, but after Scotty’s playoffs we lost touch. :)
9 or 10 hours? So jealous.
What are you coming for?
And it’s really a great place; honestly it was the only place that I actually considered attending. Especially if you like football, but you probably already know that. And you’ve got a built in Canes contingent! Well it’s made up of one person (maybe two) but that’s something.
I’m applying for the masters urban planning programs there and at GA Tech, UNC, Rutgers, and Ohio State. Probably gonna be a question of who gives me the most money, and Clemson usually gives 100% of students in the program funding, so I suspect that’s going to be the answer!
Other reasons to choose Clemson:
The weather here is better than in NJ or Ohio.
Our school colors are decidedly less feminine than those of UNC. :)
There is almost no crime here (theft of sunglasses makes the police blotter). Can Atlanta say that?
is that program on the clemson campus? They also have space in Charleston for their architecture school, that is why I am wondering.
If all things are equal, think about where you want to live after school, as it is usually easiest to get your first job within a couple hundred miles of the university.
For clemson: Rent is cheap. Greenville , sc has a nice downtown rennaissance going on, in about year ten, a good example of how planning can help. Good food is also cheap. If the program is in Charleston, that is a beautiful city as well, with a very favorable guy/girl ratio, that seems to get better for those above college age.
yeah, the hockey fans all graduated or dematriculated a long time ago. With the lack of versus coverage and crappy Clemson cable, I could see how it would be hard to find other fans.
don’t be jealous of the 9 or 10 hour schedule, I was working 50-60 hours a week between a second shift factory job and a job at the old record store.
But I agree, there is plenty to do in clemson-excellent outdoor sports, mountain biking,climbing, trail running, fishing, hunting etc. (I am visiting monday or tuesday for some biking) And once you are 21 there is a bar scene that is small enough to be entertaining, if not stifling. And anything you would want to do can easily fit into a night on the town in Atlanta. much of what you would want to do can be done nearby in Greenville or Athens. Several of my friends still live there 10+ years after college because of the high quality of life. It is by far the best small town in south carolina.
Ok so I’m slightly less jealous. :)
Yeah there is a lot of stuff to do outdoors and the weather is generally pretty nice so that’s almost always an option. There are also some really good restaurants downtown and in the surrounding area-Pixie and Bill’s may have the best steak I’ve ever eaten. I’m not 21 yet so the bar scene is still a rumor-they’ve gotten pretty strict about checking IDs. Bands and other acts are always at Littlejohn or Brooks so there’s something for almost everyone.
The town is very welcoming and the campus is gorgeous; it’s obvious why generation after generation keeps coming back.
Go to the Blue Heron! My friend manages/owns/operates the restaurant, and it has good food..
man-I am starving and an hour and half of work left!
Note to me, read the whole thing
wow, I thought you said you’ve been very good food.
Rammstein’s “Mein Teil” started playing in my head.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
You don't have to be clueless.....
even if they have nothing going on, you’ll never know and they will never say.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
They were all there, just not on the ice…
Don’t know why though…
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
How did your defense go
I didn’t hear.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Yep, went fine – y’all can call me Dr. Dre now…
:)
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
On second thought...
Don’t – I prefer to be the evil twin…
:)
Oh, and thanks for asking, BTW
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I am pleased to present the new, improved and ever so loverly.....
Dr. Evil Andrea’s Twin
You may all bow, genuflect and heap upon her all your praise and admiration now.
You may then start groveling
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Andrea was quizzical; Studied pataphysical
Science in the home.
Late nights all alone with a test tube.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Paladin Edison, majoring in medicine,
Calls her on the phone.
“Can I take you out to the pictures,
Andr, dree a, a, a?”
But as she’s getting ready to go,
A knock comes on the door.
Bang! Bang! Doctor Evil’s hammer
Came down on her head.
Bang! Bang! Doctor Evil’s hammer
Made sure she was dead.
Back in school again Paladin plays the fool again.
Teacher gets annoyed.
Wishing to avoid an unpleasant
Sce, e, e, ene,
She tells Pal to stay when the class has gone away,
So he waits behind
Writing fifty times “I must not be
So, o, o, o..”
But when she turns her back on the boy,
He creeps up from behind.
Bang! Bang! Dpctor Evil’s hammer
Came down on her head.
Clang! Clang! Doctor Evil’s hammer
Made sure that she was dead.
P. C. Thirty-one said, “We’ve caught a dirty one.”
Paladin stands alone
Painting testimonial pictures.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
HM and CG, screaming from the gallery
Say he must go free
(Paladin must go free)
The judge does not agree and he tells them
So, o, o, o.
But as the words are leaving his lips,
A noise comes from behind.
Bang! Bang! Doctor Evil’s hammer
Came down on his head.
Bang! Bang! Doctor Evil’s hammer
Made sure he was dead.
Silver Hammer Ma, a, an
Set that to, oh say a Betles tune….
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Alright you no life having so and so’s. I watched and hated the CRaps win, looks like Detroit will get one. I’m all done. Not as much life around when the Canes ain’t playing, I’m beginning to feel different…..
Anyway, Saturday is gonna be a big one.
Wus up with Canes Country Points BTW……….Bob?
or the lack there of. We need to take up a collection or is everybody a STH?
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you need to sign up through PPP
I’ll find you the link in a sec…
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Arite…
Here’s the link to the canes country link (I would send you a direct link to SPG, but I’d have to log out, and then I might not be able to log back in cause I"m not sure what my password is anymore)
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
In a month you will be back on flat ground. Right now, you are funny as hell!!
Relax, I’m an asshole, but I am asking for help, no pressure on you for my lack.
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No no no no flat ground…. roller coaster fun!
seriously tonight my problem is that I’m trying to do too many things at once – make dinner, catch up with my sister, help my best friend pack so I can send her back home Saturday, and try to deny to myself that this two-week long vacation from actual work is coming to an end…
Sadly, that also means no more hanging out at the canes practices for me…
:(
:’(
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Heavy bummer. Life can suck. If one looks hard enough, you can find the silver lining.
I think you know all that, you just jaust ran out of earned slack points and now you have to put the rubber to the road.
You are gonna be fine. If anyone tells you diff. lemme knowand i will introduce them to y little friend…
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Yep, time to put the nose back to the ol’ grindstone…
And, ah, thanks! I’ll keep you in mind if I’m not fine (ie unemployed) a couple months from now – cause I know of someone who is… how do I put this diplomatically… not helping me get on with my life… and sadly does have some influence over what happens to me…
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit – I’m trying to catch up with you guys, everytime you post I end up back here at the end and I don’t know where I was ‘cause at some point I accidentally hit shift+A and cleared everything….
Pension Plan Puppets is the Leafs blog – they have a version of points set up that is automated so Bubba and Cory don’t have to tally everything manually at the end of the night…
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course I can take your shit…
but you had me spinnin’ like Sammy for a couple of minutes there… I got all lost and what have you
:)
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright – I’m all caught up now so you can post away without messin with my head…
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
OK… (chicken)…
How come we park on a driveway and drive on a parkway?
I have more inane shit, I just don’t think it will impress…
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WHAT!?!?
you call THAT messin with my head?
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Life is just a perspective. You just slayed Goliath, give us mortals a break. That and I’d never mess with you on purpose. I was involved in the psych filed for a bit and found it distasteful.. Don’t mean i won’t screw with ya, but, I won’t won’t plat games.
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I just thought you had better tricks up your sleeve…
:)
(now I’m just messin’ with you…)
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
oh shit what have I started here…
?!
by Andrea's evil twin on Oct 15, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else notice Cam seemed to get the Malkin Monkey off his back?
I think Malkin’s goal was a softie personally, especially compared to some of the great saves made. It seemed like a continuation of how poorly Cam played in the ECF’s last year. Then in the third period Malkin had some good chances and Ward stood tall. and the same in the shootout. to me it looked like whatever was messing with cam’s head regarding geno was gone come the third period.
Wow, 300 posts in a mid weeker thread…..
It would appear we are clamoring for more hockey, though this thread has wandered like a stoned penguin…
Oh well time to make coffee and stoke the woodstove!!
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300 posts for hockey?
Or as a surrogate coffee shop to talk with a bunch of like minded people?
Either way, it’s nice.
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
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