Canes at Panthers: Game Preview
by Bob Harwood Waeghe on Nov 4, 2009 2:18 PM EST
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The Carolina Hurricanes are in Sunrise Florida to take on the Florida Panthers tonight in a battle between the bottom feeders of the Southeast Division. The Hurricanes are in last place sitting at 2-8-3. They are also tied for last place in the league and have lost nine games in a row. The bewildered team has yet to win a road game this entire season, (0-5-2).
After a slow start, the Panthers have now won two games in a row and are feeling somewhat good about themselves. But their home record is 1-4-0. Overall they are 4-7-1.
The Hurricanes will be taking the ice without team leader, Eric Staal, for the first time since 2004. The other players on the team now have an opportunity to step up and be heard, without standing in his shadow. We will see if any new leaders emerge.
Jussi Jokinen has been moved to first line center and Rod Brind'Amour, who at one time was moved to wing, will return to the third line center position.
Tim Gleason will be welcomed back to the blueline after missing five games. Jay Harrison was sent to Albany, leaving Tim Conboy as the probable healthy scratch. (Michael Ryan has been injured since the beginning of the season.)
In yesterday's practice, the lines looked like this:
- Jokinen, Ruutu, Cole
- Cullen, Whitney, LaRose
- Brind'Amour, Samsonov, Walker
- Sutter, Yelle, Kostopoulos
- Gleason, Corvo
- Pitkanen, Ward
- Alberts, Wallin
Cam Ward will return to the net and will most likely be facing Tomas Vokoun on the other side. After a strong start, Ward's stats have been dropping like a rock in recent games.
Ray Whitney leads the scoring for the Canes followed by Jussi Jokinen. Brandon Sutter has scored the only goals in the last two games for the visitors.
Stephen Reinprecht and Nathan Horton lead the Panthers with popular ex-Hurricane Dennis Seidenberg having an excellent year so far for his new team.
Seidenberg not only has more points than any Hurricanes defenseman, he is tied for second in the NHL with 39 blocked shots. Trading for Aaron Ward instead of re-signing Seidenberg might have been one of the mistakes that GM Jim Rutherford was alluding to earlier this week.
Cane-killer David Booth is out with a concussion.
The last time these two teams met on October 9 was the last time the Hurricanes won, period. They had an easy time of it back then, winning 7-2, but Florida had been off for a week after returning from Europe where they opened the season with a two game split. The Canes will be facing a different Panthers team tonight.
The game has a late start of 7:30 and will be telecast in HD by FS Carolinas. 99.9 The Fan will have the radio broadcast and we will have our Game Thread open here at 6:30.
For the latest about the Panthers, check out Whale4ever's blog at Litter Box Cats.
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Okay, where’s my prize?
Again, after tonight:
Canes 4 – Panthers 1
When all else fails, read the instruction manual.
by lcd2you on Nov 4, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just posted about the lines on the previous thread. The only guy that has scored in two games running and they stick him on the 4th line. Friggin’ morons. PLay the hot stick. If he’s the only one shooting play him until he squeels. It will be interesting without Booth.
Kind of like swapping queens in chess (no, I wasn’t making any pun…). Though I think Booth does more for his team against us than Staal does for against them. Booth just has our teams number.
I hate these lines, I hope thay change (and will probably get my wish). Sutter is the 5th (tie) highest goal scorer on the team in less games. Get’s rewarded with 4th line minutes. I’m really getting fed up with these dim moves.
One would think in a dark stinky pile of shit when you have only one bright spot, you’d notice it.
I’m about tready to start wishing they lose another 15 in a row and make the failure a real doozie, Gods know they are trying.
BTW, LCD, I was typing first and it takes a awhile..
Here’s your prize, a nugget of wisdom, don’t eat yellow snow!
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on Sutter. The issue here is that Mo out and out refuses to play young players. His Step Daddy, JR, had to call him out in the press during Staal’s rookie season to get the kid off the bench. It’s going to be the same thing here with Brandon. I think the only difference this time is that JR is likely to call him out sooner, especially if Sutter continues to be the sole person on the team working. JR finally sounds like a GM that cares about winning instead of a business man. I hate that it took this for that to happen.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 4, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude!!! LOoooong time!!
Yea, I kinda have to agree. I just can’t see anybody not playing the SOLE goal scorer of the last two fiasco’s. I guess it just staggers my little grey matter that I use as an alchohol sponge. That and I really like the kid. I gotta tell ya, that line set is train wreck waiting to happen, I think. Hope Gleason has his game ready, the D is gonna be busy, ‘cause I don’t think we are gonna get much O. Maybe Cullens pissed off enough, but not much else me thinks.
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
train wreck waiting to happen
Hey, that train wreck has already started – that line just may be the next car to go off the track… with how many more to follow?
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You sure did drain your glass, huh?
I think theres more than few of them…
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the coaching staff should make a point to say “Watch for Sillman… he’s open…”
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Nov 4, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They’d lose thier voice, let’s hope a fan has a sign up on the glass!! Though Cory likes going low and Cam pretty good with those. Cory may have a good night or maybe he’s old, too….
I miss him. Shoulda let them keep Eaves and we keep Stillman…yea, right, wishful thinking or what?
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glove Side High
Stiller played her long enough to know that " Bad Cam ", the one that seems to be playing now, could not stop a beach ball glove side high. Every time we have played the cats since he left, he has ripped at least one in that vicinity.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 4, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That should be played " here "
by Douchebag St John on Nov 4, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A GOOD OMEN
I just fell off my porch, stone cold sober!!! Luckily my face and right shoulder stopped the fall from hurting anything important. Haven’t done that on a job in years, the streak is broken, I will watch the victory through my one open eye!!
OOooowwww….
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Take an advil or two. Go see a doctor?
by caniacgirl on Nov 4, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah she has company and I ain’t feelin really social at the moment….
;-)
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL apparently when you fell, your mind stayed in the gutter.
by caniacgirl on Nov 4, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t make me laugh, I’m defrosting dinner with my face…
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ooohhh, ouch… sorry!
You’d better hit the booze too.
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta let it ride for another hour or two make sure no vascular damage. Would prefer not to throw a clot before the first period. Nothing broke, bruised ribs, nasty hematoma to the right tricep, contusion to the right deltoid and minor abrasion along the right maxilary and frontal lobe.
I gotta make sure there ain’t nothing inside cookin’ up or messin’ around. No 911 that’s worth a crap and it’s a good 20 or so minute drive.
Hell I’m more worried about how it’s gonna feel in the morning.
and don’t even think of concocting some chicken attack story!!
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so you really did a number on yourself then… yeah, better hold off on the booze.
:(
Hope it ends up not being too bad…
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, it’s merly something to whine about. I’ll give a list of the steel and titanium parts I got one of these days. I learned the musclar/skelatal parts the hard way.
Dinners defrosted, gonna cook me up a rib eye (freshly arm pit and face thawed!! Mushroom and onions sound good, too.
Then a few vodka bomber pain killers!!
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Never did learn to spell, though…
;-)
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s your job!!
Though I’d pee in ’em if would gaurantee a victory..!!
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
yeah, except that doesn’t seem to work either (well, I’ve never actually tried peeing in the onions)
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Need a def. of “scientific method”?
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nope, but onions are not on the menu tonight, so I won’t be trying it…
You’re welcome to give it a shot.
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks but they are about done, think I’ll pass.
Not to mention anything shy of a plane crash isn’t gonna gaurantee a victory.
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do I get a bye on spelling due to injury?
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
between you and I we’re 0 for 2 tonight… I just got a cardboard cut underneath my thumb nail (I know, nothing compared to you)
That’ll teach me to reach into the fridge for a beer. Next time I’ll make the cats get it.
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m gonna go with
“man I like your cats”
But man that was way down the list of things I was gonna quip!!
Keep it clean, closed in cuts like that don’t like to heal quick.
What kind of beer?
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this is the last bottle of ‘odd notion’ (magic hat)
No idea what else is in there – I think I saw 3 bottles of #9 and at least one of that caramel porter… and a couple of IPAs that I will try to pawn off on someone else.
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have a heart of gold. I now know that if you offer a certain type of beer, there is a reason!!
Bud Light for LCD?
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but there’s absolutely no reason I would have a bud light to offer anyone…
And some people really like IPAs. I just don’t.
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto. I’m a dark malty guy. Not a fan of hoppy brews, piss thin ones in particular.
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beer needs balance.
I am drinking a homebrewed oak aged IPA. it isn’t piss thin i can guarantee you that.
by Iggy Reilly on Nov 4, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the piss thin was in reference to the bud light, not IPAs…
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some brewers seem to think all it takes to make an IPA is a lot of hops, so I assumed he was referring to those.
Anyways, yes, avoid BL, unless its free. You don’t want to be rude and turn down free beer right?
by Iggy Reilly on Nov 4, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose…
Depends who’s buying…
:)
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First, I have had some IPA’s I’d drink (and I was ref. to bud light more than an IPA), but the whole purpose of the IPA was to have enough alchohol in it so it wouldn’t be a total loss on it’s journey. Had little or nothing to do with balance in the beginning. I agree a good balance is required. I prefer mine thick and on the malty side. Cooked/chocolate malt, given my druthers.
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How the hell you two type that fast?
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand. I love everything.
Absolute favorite beers have a lot of both, hops and malt.
Of course, I sleep with hops under my pillow (they are a great sleep aid) and grow them….so yeah I love hops.
by Iggy Reilly on Nov 4, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only other plant in the hops family is pot. Kinda funny, too. Never heard of pot beer or smoking hops?
Andrea, I was ref. to the whole conversation you two were having while I was apparently stumbling along and being rather redundnt on what you two already covered.
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I’ve heard of hemp beer.
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hemp being low-THC cannabis
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
THC is alcohol soluble.
Not that i would know or anything……
by Iggy Reilly on Nov 4, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but does it lose it’s potency?
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No. It just takes a lot.
That’s prob enough for this board lol.
by Iggy Reilly on Nov 4, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like you said initially, balance is everything…
I prefer light on the hops without lots of other flavors to balance, hence my avoidance of IPAs. I think I have recently had an IPA that I liked, but I don’t remember who made it because
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
light on the hops without unless there are lots of of other flavors
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No delay, unless it’s synaptic.
Did you just stutter?
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HD
Will the game actually be telecast in HD, or will it just be on FSC-HD, but in SD.
That’s really been annoying the past few games.
by Buglermcd on Nov 4, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It is actually in HD.
Hey at least they have the SD feed on the HD channel this year. If you like to DVR the games, you dont have to worry about which channel to record now.
by Iggy Reilly on Nov 4, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So is the canes country cool bars still on?
by briney on Nov 4, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
some people might be going, but nothing official that I know of. I can not make it.
GM of CanesCountry.com
by Bob Harwood Waeghe on Nov 4, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was supposed to be the 7th?
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought it was tonight…but you are probably right
by briney on Nov 4, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Sutter should be on the 3rd line if not the second. If Maurice is going to keep being stupid about not playing him 18-20 minutes a night, perhaps rather than firing him or publically calling him out, Rutherford could suspend (with pay) Maurice for a game or three and instruct Francis to play him.
by ncdavid on Nov 4, 2009 4:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'd be interested to know
How long does JR plan to go with Mo if the ship continues to sink like it has been. I could see him lasting through mid December if things don’t improve dramatically, seeing as how they have Ronny Franchise waiting in the wings and all.
by JBK on Nov 4, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mo Ain't going anywhere....
…PK is not going to pay three coaches. Thanks to his lambasting of Lavi last year ( Over the Hockey got that is Eric Belanger ), he is effectively blacklisted from the NHL a’la Ted Nolan. We still have to pay him for another year or two. Mo, just signed a three year deal and NO ONE but this organization wanted him. He wont get another job and will have to be paid the duration of his contract.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 4, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still like the idea of coaching depth… you lose more than say 3 in a row, we bring the other guy back…
:)
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mo's favorites
Do you think Mo seems to have favorites and plays them to the detriment of the team? It has been speculated before. Ex. Brindamour, Harrison vs. Sutter, Larose (last season). Just wondered what anyone else thinks of this.
by JCLowe on Nov 4, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say all the way to the bottom, but I guess we are there, huh?
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he’s waiting for coral to start growing on the bow…?
by JBK on Nov 4, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Barnicle ridden…
Hey,
“Barnicle Mo the sailor”
Wish I could remember the words…
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everything will lokk a little better tomorrow. All it takes is one win to turn things in the other direction. I like the look of the lines tonight. As much as coach mixes it up don’t be surprised if Sutter is paired back with Samsonov eventually.
by matthew h on Nov 4, 2009 4:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Juice is loose tonight.
I hope.
Tonight is a win-win for me personally. Either the Canes win and snap this losing streak, or they lose and we are all witness to a group of guys who have excelled in certain ways this franchise has never seen.
by Iggy Reilly on Nov 4, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s one way to look at it!!
I’m hoping for at least good effort, a pulse, ya know?
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We all know this team can do it.
I just want to be entertained at this point.
by Iggy Reilly on Nov 4, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, tonight is just the preliminary for Friday nights big “Battle for the Cellar” with Toronto.
by drifterscape on Nov 4, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Trying for a lower than Whaler shit thing, but it’s not working…
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by Paladin6 on Nov 4, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Blow Leafs Blow.
Still not a hurricane force blow.
by Iggy Reilly on Nov 4, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Jordan with the pep talk.
4. Keep it simple.
by Elsker on Nov 4, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
3 things I'd like to see tonight
1. Effort. Intensity. Pride. Passion. A sense of urgency. I don’t know how many of you work for someone else, but I’ve heard the term “sense of urgency” from my boss waaaay too much in the last year. I don’t have a contract, I don’t work in front of 16,000 people a night, but still.
2. 4 goals.
3. Defensive cohesiveness. At least give the impression that we have a plan and are trying to follow it.
by Gillimus on Nov 4, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i just wanna see a win.
Can´t expect them to change over night.
Don´t expect to much improvment but hope for it.
by CanesTown on Nov 4, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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