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Great Start, No Finish - Panthers 3, Hurricanes 0

The Carolina Hurricanes lost their 10th consecutive game, this time to the Florida Panthers, by a 3-0 score on Wednesday night in Sunrise, Florida. The team started the game off with tremendous effort and dominated time of possession.  They out-shot the home team by a 21-4 margin in the opening period, but Florida goalie Tomas Vokoun was equal to the task. 

Vokoun registered his second straight shutout with the effort.

After scoreless first and second periods, the Panthers dented the scoreboard first when Cory Stillman bounced a puck off Steven Reinprecht's leg.  Florida was able to generate a couple of prime scoring chances after the goal, but shot the puck wide two or three times on open nets.  It looked like Carolina's luck might turn. 

But with the help of a couple of ill-timed penalties, Florida kept the pressure on, scored a powerplay goal on another deflection, and would ice the game with an empty netter with two minutes left.

The loss leaves the Canes still looking for their first road win and still looking for answers.

Star-divide

Game Notes:

  • Brandon Sutter continued to shine.  He led the team with four shots on goal and made some nice moves to get himself open.  He also killed penalties and generated a chance or two while short-handed.  The kid deserves more ice time than 10 minutes and should be bumped up to another line.
  • Without Sutter's two goals in the previous two games, the veterans on this team would have been shut out three games in a row.
  • The oldest team in the league looked a bit slow in the third.  They also took bad penalties in the second and third periods which changed the tone of the game.
  • The powerplay drew a goose egg again as the team went 0-6 with the man advantage.
  • The Canes remain the most penalized team in the league.  They were called for eight minors in this game.
  • Rod Brind`Amour was -2 and now has a team worst -11.  Last year's -23 might have been a fluke, but he is on course to top that mark.  He was on the ice for 18:06 and did not have an official shot on goal.
  • After out-shooting the Panthers 21-4 in the first, the visitors were out-shot in each of the next two periods, 12-6 and 8-5.  Did the Panthers make adjustments or did the Canes run out of gas?
  • After the game no one had any answers, but John Forslund said it best when he said that the team has yet to put forth a consistent 60 minute effort.  Skating for 30-40 minutes is not going to cut it when the team is in this position.
  • The Canes have been out-scored 14-2 in the last three games and 19-4 in the last four.
  • The loss officially puts the team at 30th in the league.  They will play Toronto on Friday night to see who gets to keep the dubious position.

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by drifterscape on Nov 4, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

I like the Rocky and Bullwinkle reference. Made me laugh a bit.

5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!

by C-Leaguer on Nov 5, 2009 6:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sutter

I agree 100% on the fact that if this kid wasn’t here i doubt the older vets would have scored at least one goal.

the kid needs to be rewarded with more ice time and bumped another line. heck, drop Rod to the 4th and move sutter to the 3rd. such a promising talent doesn’t need to be wasted playing only 10 minutes a night. that’s why JR wanted to keep all the young kids in Albany where they’ll probably average around 20 or more a night.

by get_A_name on Nov 4, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

too many veteran players on this team,
i dont think rod should be 4th line, but there are too many players not to put him on the 4th, we need to do a two for one trade, and get an upgrade,
like send away two good players for one great player.

something aong those lines, free up space in the lines, and then brandon can earn his way up the line.
brandon deserves higher, but there isnt one player that deserves less in the top three lines.

by chrisj on Nov 5, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

and to think...

Some people thought Sutter was awful….

Some of those same people think Jake Delhomme is better then sliced bread…

do they even watch sports?!?! or do they just read box scores all day?

Bet they are really at odds with sports these days.

by packpigskinfan25 on Nov 4, 2009 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

oh yeah...

and all my sports teams piss me off more then I have even imagined possible.

by packpigskinfan25 on Nov 4, 2009 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

I sympathize with ya.

Barry Melrose Rocks: Hockey and mullets. What else is there?

by wuffy on Nov 5, 2009 6:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I might have you beat...

My other favorite teams include: Washington Redskins, Baltimore Orioles, University of Maryland. Thoughts?

by Charleston Caniac on Nov 5, 2009 6:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I got the Lions on my list…

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by Paladin6 on Nov 5, 2009 6:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Sutter. 10 minutes= 4 shots

Brindy. 18 minutes= 0 shots.

I might not be the most brilliant soul ever, but even I can see what player should be playing more and what player should be playing less. Might not solve all of our problems, but it sure ain’t gonna make anything worse!

by caniac4ever on Nov 5, 2009 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

Bob, I liked the tone and the notes. The indictment stands. Even cousin Vinny can’t get them out of this. I think some of the guys had some good effort tonight, I think some of the guys ran out of juice. Sutter is the man, to not lean on him at this stage is beyond stupid. The only 2 tally’s in three games and the kid gets 10 minutes. Not only does outshine most of the other guys while he’s going it, but he’s humble, too.

 I know JR started this turd rolling, but Mo’s given the reach around.

 I mean holy shit they didn’t even have the big guns firing against us and our big gun hasn’t fired all year.

40 minutes of good hockey but when it comes down to where the veterans stand tall, they fall short and weak and the coach benches the kid that has given the only sign of life.

We missed Booth tonight, Kessel will eat these pukes for a snack and remove all doubt that JR built and Mo is coaching the worst bunch of losers in the NHL.

That, i think I will pay to see.

A

by Paladin6 on Nov 5, 2009 12:40 AM EST reply actions  

Hurricanes vs. Panthers

The Hurricanes have a difficult time giving a full sixty minute effort because they have a few players who need to sit. The contrast between the hungry players and the complacent players is stark and startling. Sutter’s play shows what full effort looks like. The strong efforts by some of the players are being undermined by the lack of complete effort by some of the teams veterans. Sutter is playing as if he were the captain of the team and Brind’Amour is playing like a career AHLer. Essentially Brind’Amour is merely wasting time on the ice. If one judged only by this season (even forgetting last season for the moment), he would be fighting to make the team. Similarly, Wallin is slow and looks dazed and confused much of the time. Sitting Brind’Amour and Wallin would do wonders for the team. I admire Brind’Amour for his many accomplishments and look forward to seeing him inducted into the Hall of Fame; but at this point both he and Wallin are masters of disaster. It is time to let the young leaders lead the team and it is time for some of the veterans to face the reality that time ends all athletic careers, including the greatest of athletes. Bring up Boychuk, and try Rodney, or McBain, or Carson if his injury has healed. It’s time to make some significant changes in the team and to usher in a new era of young and motivated Hurricanes. It is hard to imagine what more proof is needed that ten straight losses with only two goals by Sutter in three straight games. The core players of the Hurricanes team have substantial talent and it is painfully obvious they are not playing like a top tier team. One first step is to bring in players with something to prove and a hunger to win — and who don’t require any coach to tell them they have to give 100% each and every shift.

by abramsdoug on Nov 5, 2009 12:41 AM EST reply actions  

Amen to that, cut Brindy out and give the C to Staal. That will power him and the team with new inspiration. Get rid of Wallin in any way possible. He’s done. For every season that goes by with Rod as captain we are surpressing the youth from flowering. Lets face it: mainly this is all a problem of psychology and moral, and that can be fixed, but you’ll have to make some hard and spectacular decisions as manager.

by Oskar S on Nov 5, 2009 7:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Effort and Sutter

First the effort. Last night was the best effort I’ve seen out of this team since Pittsburgh and maybe all year. The power play did a good job of establishing the shot which was giving the panthers fits. My hope is that this team can take away the positives out of this game and build on it because for the first time in a number of weeks there was some positive aspect to the overall team game.

As for Sutter, switch him with Walker. The fourth line of Yelle, TKO, and Walker played very well in the first two games prior to Cole’s injury. Return that line and put Sutter in the wing on the third line. If his play is still at the same level after getting that much ice time then move him to the first line and move LaRose to the scond line, which is a more natural position for Rosey.

5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!

by C-Leaguer on Nov 5, 2009 6:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

While I disagree with most that try to pin it all on Brind’Amour and think that Sutter is the next messiah, the lack of a threat from the third powerplay onward and that first penalty by Pitkanen are what really hurt us last night. You could see the spiral begin after that penalty. Every loss there is always going to be a couple guys you can single out for playing especially poorly but what I saw was disinterest in the third period. It was the immediate shift after Florida’s first goal that showed some promise but that’s where it ended. Pulling Cam on the powerplay was a bonehead move by Maurice, a 6 on 4 with free shots by Florida , dumb. Did Vokoun even use his glove last night? Does anybody on this team practice wrist shots? One shot off the post by Ruutuu was the only shot that had a chance all night.

by matthew h on Nov 5, 2009 7:41 AM EST reply actions  

Didnt see the game but with 21 shots in the 1st and 32 total, it sounds like the fact that they couldnt find the back of the net after 21 shots deflated what, if any, confidence this team could muster.

by Killswitch on Nov 5, 2009 7:55 AM EST reply actions  

You wanna get rid of dead weight on this team? Dump Cole, he hasn’t done anything since his initial game back from Edmonton.

by matthew h on Nov 5, 2009 7:57 AM EST reply actions  

From what I remember he was almost a point/game player to finish the regular season after his return last year. Short term memory?

by Killswitch on Nov 5, 2009 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that point per game, which definitely wasn’t in the playoffs, was more the result of Staal’s renewed enthusiasm than Cole’s brlliant play. He refuses to shoot and was a liability in the defensive zone last night and most nights. I just don’t think he looks like he’s doing anything other than going through the motions.

by matthew h on Nov 5, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I cant comment on his play last night but I find it interesting that you would say Staal carries Cole on his back yet Staal has consistently produced at a higher rate with Cole on his line.

by Killswitch on Nov 5, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

As far as a defensive liability, he’s a pretty solid 2-way player, good positionally, plays the body and is strong on the puck. I guess I’m not sure where your coming from, he’s only played 4 games this year so I wouldnt think you could get a great synopsis of his play in that time frame.

by Killswitch on Nov 5, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

What is happening to the canes? Have you done an analysis post on this yet?

by ThrashersRecaps on Nov 5, 2009 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

Team needs overhauling

When the Hurricanes won the cup in 2006, it was as if every player on the team was having a career year. This year it seems to be the opposite. It’s like every player is having one of his worst years in the NHL, except for Sutter. This is why we are worst or tied for worst in the NHL now. Call it a fluke, blame Maurice, but it can’t be denied. Whose to blame? You can change the coaching, call out players, trade one guy, but that may not change the result. Chances are the team is in need of a major overhaul, which Rutherford hinted at when he took blame for the team’s bad start. Major overhaul to me equals keep Staal (make him Captain?), keep Ward (the good one), Sutter, Gleason, Cullen, Jokenin, Pitkanen. Everyone else is expendable. Can anyone name one player that isn’t on this list that we should absolutely keep? I can’t.

by hockeythoughts on Nov 5, 2009 8:20 AM EST reply actions  

Guess it’s not how I remember it, regardless, he hasn’t done anything since.

by matthew h on Nov 5, 2009 8:29 AM EST reply actions  

As much as I hate to admit it...

This team has not played good hockey since game 7 against Boston. The sweep at the hand of Pittsburgh is starting to look more and more like a revelation than an aberration.
I had high hopes that Rod could return to his previous level of performance, before knee injury, but it seems that these hopes are unfounded.
I cannot believe that Sutter is not playing more….he has been our best player the last three games hands down. Give the guy some time on the PP. Hell, let him center the first line, just take Cole off of it and move Jussi to wing. I was one of the ones who defended JR’s decision to resign Cole, I was wrong to do that. Maybe he hasn’t gotten his legs under him yet, but he looks to have lost the burst which made him an impact player. Add in the worst hands on the team and well…we have seen what that gets us.
Why will Corvo no shoot the damn puck? Fire away, and make the other team block it. How many players in this league, during the regular season, are going to be willing to block repeated attempts from Corvo’s cannon?

On a positive note….last night was IMO LaRose;s best game of the year, yet he saw little ice time as the Canes basically played on the PK for the final 40 minutes.
Samsonov continues to give high effort, and has played pretty well the last several games. That is the good and the bad of the teams situation.

It was clearly a mistake not to resign Seidenberg.

We need some major changes, but where? I am starting to think the Mo has lost the room, I hope I’m wrong.
Do we even have any tradeable players? Besides Whitney? Maybe Cullen? Walker and Brindy are unmoveable for a variety of reasons.
At this point it is more about the fanbase, not loosing them, than the standings.
JR needs to get creative and bring in new blood, not recycled players, to this squad in the form of callups or trades. Any trade is prolly going to have to include multiple players, ie 3 from each team.
Untoucables: Rutuu, Cam, Staal, Sutter, Whitney, Pitkanen, Gleason, Walker, Jokinen, and maybe Cullen (though his contract status makes him attractive to other teams).
What would I do? I have no freaking idea!

"He has all the virtues I dislike, and none of the vices I admire." -Sir Winston Churchill

by SouthernHockeyFan on Nov 5, 2009 8:31 AM EST reply actions  

I would say untouchables: Cam Ward, Eric Staal. But even then it all depends. I’d like to think we have a core group of guys to build a team around. The question is what is the core group now? In my opinion the core group in 2009 isn’t what is was when we won the cup in 2006. You could argue that the core group isn’t even the same now as last year.

by hockeythoughts on Nov 5, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

There is one other way to look at this. Maybe we brought in too many new players, players from the outside. Resign Seiderberg, Babchuk, plug in the young guys like Bowman, Sutter, Boychuk and maybe McBain, Rodney, maybe we’d have a better mix, better team chemistry and better results. Maybe Rutherford played his cards too close the vest. Maybe Rutherford was so concerned with what the market dictates for a particular player that he lost track of the big picture.

by hockeythoughts on Nov 5, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Brind'Amour and the 2nd goal

Did anyone else see Rod deep in the corner, way out of position, missing a check on a panther while his primary cover on a PK, the point man, was wide open at the top of the circle?? That’s just basic hockey. It’s sad really. Who’s the number one pick again next year??

by Sin Bin on Nov 5, 2009 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

Who’s the number one pick again next year??

That’s just it. This probably isn’t the year to be in last place. Probably Tyler/Taylor?? Hall. Some say he is just as good as Tavares, but I can’t believe that. You probably had heard of Tavares by this time last year. Next year is definately not the year to be a bottom feader. 2011’s draft is the worst in a long time.

by hockeythoughts on Nov 5, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

cory and I discussed this, there is some good talent at the top, but nothing on the level of Tavares/Hedman. It is a week draft in comparison to the last few years. Just our luck.

by wylde4canes on Nov 5, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

A weak draft may be perfect for this team. The canes have a star player in staal and a star tender in cam. They have good young players. A weak draft allows the canes to draft complimentary pieces and it makes teams more free with first round picks, both of which could be very helpful to the canes in the next couple of years.

5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!

by C-Leaguer on Nov 5, 2009 9:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Brind'Amour and the 2nd Goal

Yes, I saw it and was muttering a stream of unpleasant expressions as it was occurring. In the Sharks game, the same thing happened when Walker lost his man and Brind’Amour stared in baffled amazement as the Sharks player pounded the shot into the net for that player’s first NHL goal. Unfortunately, that situation has been repeated far too many times — which is why Brind’Amour is a -11 already this season. I had thought his -25 at one point last season was explained by his knee injury; but to follow up with an equally poor season (if not worse season) makes it appear Brind’Amour’s time to retire is here and now. Glen Wesley did it the right way. He left with fans thinking he still had at least one more year left. Brind’Amour can’t retire fast enough for me.

by abramsdoug on Nov 5, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey I have yet to see anyone call out Mo yet, and he deserved it BIG TIME last night. How in the world do you not respond to the first goal by putting the 4th line, who buzzed all night long, on the ice. It is already evidenced that this team loses it’s composure after goals against, so why not respond with a line you know will come out with energy to burn and calm the jitters. Instead within three shifts they gave up three of our good scoring chances and looked completely lost in their own end. I kept waiting for a time out, see if Mo would try to calm the troops, but nothing.

Also to echo you Bob 10 TOI for Sutter sends the wrong message. He should have had 15-20 with the way he was playing. You reward players who are making things happen by giving them TOI. You destroy a players confidence when he plays like a man on fire and you neglect to send him over the boards regularly.

Coaching is the number one problem with this team, hands down. Teams that win, and win consistently do so because the move as 1 unit of 5, rather than 5 units of 1. Everyone knows their role, and they are responsible to that role above all else. This comes from the coach. It is up to them to come in and rally the troops when their backs area against the wall. It is up to them to ensure that a team plan is in place and followed.

Also big shout out again to JR for handcuffing us to this debacle behind the bench. I just don’t get how half a season bought that man a 3 year extension. Disgusting.

BTW I got a new war cry for us 10 in a row, Mo must Go.

by wylde4canes on Nov 5, 2009 8:38 AM EST reply actions  

Major issues with MO

I totally agree. You want to really raise your blood pressure? Listen to his interview after the game.
I got so mad when I listened to this last night I couldn’t get to sleep for an hour.

http://downloads.hurricanes.nhl.com/audio/interviews/mauricepost110409.mp3

If he’s not more pissed off about losing 10 games in a row, being in last place, and setting a franchise record for sucking than he DOESN’T DESERVE THE JOB. If someone has his number I will gladly tell him that myself.

It is clear that MO has NO IDEA how to get us out of this mess. It’s fitting that we play his other bunch of bottom feeders tomorrow night.

by TOS on Nov 5, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know that any coach can coach this team as it is currently assembled. The assembling part was Rutherford’s. That’s why he is taking the blame. One problem is the team was put together “to get past Pittsburgh” without taking into consideration, I think, whether it could get past anything else. You can blame Maurice, and maybe he is to blame in part, but bringing in another coach will not address chemistry problems, veteran players out of position, lack of hustle etc. Those are all things that professional players don’t need to be coached in. These players know those things at their age.

by hockeythoughts on Nov 5, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree that not all the blame should be on Maurice.

But ultimately he is getting paid a large sum of money to work with what he has, and I don’t see that happening. Not playing Sutter more, not benching guys who need to be benched, not getting pissed off after such an embarrassing season, that’s all him.

I really gave him the benefit of the doubt until now. Listen to that interview I linked to and tell me that guy knows what to do about this mess.

by TOS on Nov 5, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Chemistry issues are a coaches issue and are handled by not shuffling the decks more than he has too. Players playing out of position is a coaching problem because it indicates that the player does not understand the coaches system, lack of hustle is on the player, but can be addressed by the coach by how he chooses to hand out ice time.

TO say it is the way the team is assembled has some merit, I will give you that, but honestly, a good coach has us hovering at just under .500 and gives us a chance to address some of the personnel issues, and still have enough of a cushion to pour it on late and make a run for it.

by wylde4canes on Nov 5, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

21 SoG, 11 Scoring chances and that leads to?

0, zero, nada, nichts,

This team is snake bit.

It has gone beyond coaching, team leaders, even the players themselves. They can’t buy a goal and like going out to a bar trying to get laid, not until you stop trying and being so desperate will it starting coming your way.

When all else fails, read the instruction manual.

by lcd2you on Nov 5, 2009 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

calling out players

I think this is silly. Up until last night everyone wanted to call out Staal, now it looks like Cole is our scapegoat, or may Capt Rod…..

Obviously, any one of these folks stepping up would be great, but the problem is that this team is not producing as a team. I Reiterate, 1 unit of 5. You look at the Pens or last years Detroit club when it was hot. They moved like all 5 players were appendages of each other. They would cross the ice in a wave. Everyone’s positioning complemented the others. I thought the 4th line did a good job last night at playing that way, complimenting each other. I also have to call Yelle’s play as being much closer to what I expected when we signed him. He was on the boards and in the corners digging, which is what I always wanted/expected.

If each line can do that, play simple smart hockey, they can start to turn themselves around. Sad thing is, too little too late.

Paladin, you said to me the other day that 2 years of missing the playoff was like having your boys in a vice……… Be prepared for it again, because we aint going this year, and it will be more of the same next year under useless Mo.

by wylde4canes on Nov 5, 2009 9:07 AM EST reply actions  

see below, the boys are prepared..

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by Paladin6 on Nov 5, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

While I am not really enjoying seeing this coming and preaching my ass off AND getting shit on by dam near everyone of you….

Here’s the last part that’s missing.

This team was put together as a last ditch effort for at least a PO run, but then the rebuild had to take place. Instead of starting this year and bringing up the kids and in so doing dropping the exper. factor of the team. JR went ape shit trying to buy another year before it happens. PK ponied up.

Look even if I was wrong it was over this year no matter what. I think Mo was brought in to start the new team off, not try another run with old geezers. The sad part is the 1st round pick it looks like we will get will be used as trade bait. Some of the players we have and love will be traded. i bet Rod stays and someone like Ruutu goes. The business end, the head of the dragon has reared it’s it’s head and needs to be fed.

This team is in shambles and they know it. How as a player can be in this spot in the season and the twilight of your career and still try? If your a guy like Cullen or Ray that has time left, you try your ass off, but with little or no line help you get beat down over time. Mo has the knowledge to coach, I really believe that, but this isn’t a team that is coachable, it’s a wake. The heart is dead and now everybody has to move on.

  Last night is probably as good as Carolina is gonna be for a couple years. With the kids up, a couple good trades we will be servicable again, but I think this experiment is over. All the taking blame in the world means shit. It’s time to feed the dragon.

  I see some big happenings. I don’t think Mo or Rod are going anywhere. Whether that’s good or bad remains to be seen. I’d look at the guys with multiple year contracts to be on the trade block, the FA’s will come up soon enough. JR’s world is a nightmare he earned.

  I don’t know about the rest of you, but I think I have seen enough to say I’d like to see this roster scrapped, salary dumped and every effort put towards developing a good team in as short a time as can be.

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by Paladin6 on Nov 5, 2009 9:07 AM EST reply actions  

i agree

 he took a chance and it didnt work,
he has acknowledged that and has said its time to start over.
so im ok with this.

i agree rod stays, and with yout haround him he will be great.
(he needs to be teaching sutter, and others, not havign to hold lots of ice time)
i think whitney, corvo, and larose go. unfortunately, they the last threei want gone,
imagine if we had not signed alberts and yelle and we could just call up sutter and boychuk and a D
things might look al ittle better now, and we may not have had to trade our team like will have to now.

by chrisj on Nov 5, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

True, but you trade players for picks/prospects (not players), free up the roster spots, and whoever you want to bring up can be brought up. Plus, you now have the pick/prospect in the bank for the future.

This is, and always has been Plan B. They tried the vets for another playoff run (read revenue) while the kids incubated.

Plan A didn’t work. Plan B will be implemented.

Believe me, they DO have a business plan. But, these things take time to enact.

by Elsker on Nov 5, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Do we stay home Friday?

Would an empty RBC be another signal to JR?

by Capt. Stinky on Nov 5, 2009 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

I may go just to be pissed off, rude and loud. I hate me a loser that doesn’t try to be better and this not playing Sutter like he is our saviour is assinine.

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by Paladin6 on Nov 5, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Here’s a theory. We have our “core” players that have played together for several years. They have nothing to prove to each other. They all know that each of them are talented, skilled hockey players. However the drive, ambition, age factor plays a psychological role. If any one of this group were traded to another team, they’d have something to prove to their coach and their team mates. They’d turn it on.

This is why recycling players and coaches to this extent doesn’t work. They know each other too well. They are too comfortable with each other. Yes, you can recycle a player or coach here and there, but not this many. Bringing back Ward, Maurice, Francis with all our on ice guys they know is like a family reunion. You are comfortable with your friends and family. You can relax. When you meet new people, you are on your best behavior. You’ve got to impress and you’ve got something to prove.

No one can figure out what’s going on with this team. I think this is it. It makes sense.

What’s the solution? Sorry to say…clean house. Big time. Party’s over.

by JCLowe on Nov 5, 2009 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

Dennis Seidenburg

Anyone else notice how calming Dennis’s play was. I never noticed it when he was here but last night his play helped to defuse the momentum of the canes, give his team a breather, and slow the game down. Now, I was all for him leaving but that is the kind of presence we could use on the blue line instead of A Ward.

5 seconds left.
Do you believe in miracles?
YES!!

by C-Leaguer on Nov 5, 2009 9:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Stillman was pretty good, too. I miss that guy also.

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by Paladin6 on Nov 5, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Canes-killer extraordinaire. What a set of hands…connected to a very savvy brain.

I do miss him.

by Elsker on Nov 5, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

That game was the hardest to watch thus far. We dominated the first 2 periods and then took a #$%^ and fell back in it in the last 15 minutes.
Larose has never looked so feeble.
Yelle played like a child vying for attention.
Jokinen was playing like a bad dream where you can’t run away or fight or do anything.
Cole looked like he wanted to do something.
Cullen won’t take a hit.
And I barely noticed Roddy except when he won faceoffs – he tended to disappear after them.

Someone please fix my team!

by Caniac1026 on Nov 5, 2009 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Yelle played the game he was supposed to be playing all along, last night. He was slowing the Panthers down and in the middle of every scrum for the puck when he was on the ice. His play along the boards is where he makes his mark, and he was effective in that regard.

by wylde4canes on Nov 5, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Next Year's Draft

I think a few here are mistaken on next years draft. Taylor Hall the projected first overall pick is a monster, he led his team to the CHL championship getting league MVP, playoff MVP, and most goals award (That is across all 3 leagues, the OHL, WHL, and QMJHL, in Canada). Every big scouting site last year said they would have taken him over Tavares, Hedman, and Duchene if he was available. He is NHL ready and seriously put our team up with the Malkin/Crosby and Backstrom/Ovi crowd (Not to mention Staal/Hall just sounds good). Even better he is a natural left winger.

Other pure goal scorers and playmakers in the top 10 include Tyler Seguin who is the only one keeping up with Hall points wise in the minors, Kirill Kabanov who is the best looking russian skill player since Ovechkin to enter the draft (same build at 6’3"), Vladamir Tarasenko who is a similar russian offensive dynamo, and a small (5’9") but great playmaker Mikael Granlund who is a 17 year old Finn currently a top 5 scorer as a rookie in the Finnish Elite League (Finland’s NHL equivalent). There are some great D-men also however JR shy’s away from first round D-men ever since we got screwed with JJ.

Just something to be positive about, if we really did tank the rest of the year and picked up Taylor Hall we would be in an amazing position. Hall has nothing left to prove in the minors and would be an instant superstar addition to our team.

by JussiJuice on Nov 5, 2009 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks JussiJuice

I did hear from Hockey News that some think Hall is better than Tavares.

by hockeythoughts on Nov 5, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

TX Jussi Juice, when it comes to the talent going into the draft, I always have to rely on others, I don;t follow that stuff like I should.

by wylde4canes on Nov 5, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus he missed last year’s draft by a month or a few days so he should be NHL ready by next year.

by hockeythoughts on Nov 5, 2009 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

Leighton this Weekend ?

Should Leighton play this weekend? I mean if he’s not too busy of course.
We’ve got home and away. East and West. Two teams not particularly offensively gifted (NO, not the ‘Canes, the opposition). We sorta need to win Friday’s home Cellar Dweller battle. Then let Mike have Saturday? Or play Cam Saturday too because Friday was the big big win we needed, as Tripp might say.

by drifterscape on Nov 5, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

I think you have to go with Ward Friday. It will be such a make or break game, if we really lose to the only other bottom dwelling team in the league it will be the nail in the coffin. Probably couldn’t have come at a worse time either with Kessel just coming back and looking to prove his worth. Ward hasn’t been extremely impressive but with the lack of inspired play by anyone in front of him except Sutter I don’t blame him.

The real unfortunate thing is that the vast majority of this 10 game losing streak has been losses to other very bad teams. October and November I think were/are very soft schedules for us, the real pain will be coming December on when we are playing teams like Washington, Pittsburgh, the Rangers, the Flyers, Buffalo, even the Thrashers two out of three times a week.

by JussiJuice on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

The worst is yet to come..

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by Paladin6 on Nov 5, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You know things are bad when the Thrashers are part of a “tough” schedule.

by hockeythoughts on Nov 5, 2009 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

I am concerned for Cam

I am beyond worrying that this team can turn things around. They can’t and won’t. What I do worry about is that this could destroy Cams confindence over the course of the season. Goalies are fickle creatures and I do believe Cam has a better psyche than most goalies but this is going to get very ugly.

This team is pathetic and there is blame and responsibility to go around aplenty. I notice that we don’t hear anymore about JR as a genius. Rod is done, AWard is done, and there are more. I just don’t know how they can even begin righting the ship.

This team is very slow, they continue to reward seniority over performance re: ice time, they are locked into contracts that will give us little wiggle room (including with coaches), etc….. the list goes on…………..

They are still our team but this is going to continue to be painful for all!

by Canes Pucknut on Nov 5, 2009 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

Yes,

This team is old and slow and firing Maurice and getting another coach isn’t going to change that. Cam’s pysche going through this is probably the thing to be concerned about the most. We can’t replace him, not even with a high draft choice.

by hockeythoughts on Nov 5, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Cam can handle this. Surely hes been on a losing team before. You have to know how to lose, to know how to win. If this bad season breaks him, then him breaking is inevitable anyways.

by TylerA7707 on Nov 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

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