Should Paul Maurice Be on the Hot Seat?
by Bob Wage on Nov 5, 2009 11:54 AM EST
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There is a lot of conjecture around the Caniac Nation concerning the current state of the Carolina Hurricanes. All hope is not yet lost, but the team seems to be doing an excellent job of playing it's way out of a playoff berth in just the opening month or two of the season.
General Manager Jim Rutherford recently spoke about how he was to blame because he re-signed so many veteran players. He pointed the finger directly at himself for the team's woeful performance this season. But as with most situations regarding a team, there is plenty of blame to go around.
News and Observer columnist Luke DeCock recently wrote an article saying that it was baffling why Rutherford never mentioned head coach Paul Maurice during the "blame game" press conference. But is it really so baffling?
The Carolina general manager probably went out of his way to shield his coach from any blame. Maurice is just a month and change into a three year deal. It's a bit early to be throwing him under the bus. Forget the fact that the coach and GM are best friends and the sweet smell of last season's success is probably still in the air at 1400 Edwards Mill Road.
Financially speaking it would be difficult because the team is still paying Peter Laviolette. If they fired Maurice, they would be paying two coaches not to coach the team.
Still, the beginning of this season is like "de ja vu" all over again for some fans. The year before Maurice was originally fired, the Hurricanes finished dead last in the league and scored the fewest goals the NHL. (sound familiar?) The December he was fired, the team started out much like it did before.
Laviolette was primarily brought in to inject some offensive fire into the team, which he managed to do. He ended up being fired after missing the playoffs two years in a row, and starting out with a 12-11-2 record last season.
At the present time, the Canes have a 2-9-3 record, with 10 losses in a row.
Is Maurice blameless in this debacle? Of course not. Some would say he has mismanaged the goalie situation by continuing to play Cam Ward in repeated back to back situations, then throwing Michael Leighton into action under less than favorable circumstances.
Cam Ward played in 25 plus consecutive games near the end of last season, plus all throughout the playoffs. When was the last time Michael Leighton actually started a game? It's been awhile.
The coaching staff as a whole has not been able to fix an ailing powerplay, which scored at an abysmal 10% clip during the playoffs last season and is still struggling so far this year. There seems to be chemistry issues on this team, especially on defense, (Ward and Pitkanen), and the forward lines have been constantly shuffled and are inconsistent.
But the problems are not all coaching, there is enough blame to be passed around throughout the entire organization. Of course, the players themselves are mostly responsible.
The biggest question is, can Paul Maurice right the ship and turn this thing around? Can he solve the scoring problems which have plagued the team? Can he help to create some chemistry and common purpose in the locker room? Maybe most importantly, is he the right coach to be developing the team's propects when they come up through the system?
If you look at his past track record, he has had mixed results. Regardless, it seems like Jim Rutherford has made his bed with this coach, at least for now. And it would not baffle me at all to see Maurice here for quite some time, win or lose.
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Doesn’t much matter right now, certainly nobody could manage to do any worse. Let one of the zamboni operators run the team…or a 5 year old.
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
It could be a John Deere for all I care :P
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
At least George Jones can get DUI’s on a John Deere
by Douchebag St John on Nov 5, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
ice_chip Rutherford wants Boychuk and Sutter to get top-nine minutes.
3 minutes ago.
Check out the Canes tweets from ice_chip. LOTS going on.
JR’s been reading over here some more.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
Chip has gone on to say it will be Boychuk with Jussi and Cole. Welcome to the NHL, Zach! (or is it Zack?)
(Whitney’s out, Ru is questionable for the weekend).
Wondering if Bowman and Rodney and maybe Jeff Daniels can hop on the same flight and give some of the regulars a few days to consider their options with a clear head.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Nov 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
According to another tweeter at the Canes practice, Wallin is out.
NCCaniac42 No wallin. Conboy wearing defense black
from TwitterBerry
Seems like Rodney or McBain might be a better alternative than Harrison or Conboy for a couple games.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by hockeymomof2 on Nov 5, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I have said it on Facebook and been jumped by the homers and I am sure there will be some homeristic reaction here, but how is Pete Freisen(sp?) still employed?
We are consistently a league leader in man-games lost year in and year out. His job as " Conditioning Coach " is to insure that the guys DO NOT get injured or can play through them. If you look at every season going all they way back the two years before the lock out we have had MAJOR injuries constantly. Remember, Ray missed a little over 20 games during the cup year. If I was as proportionally bad at my assigned task at my job, I would have been fired after a few days.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 5, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions
I agree with you and think we should move Pete to head coach and get Rod to retire and take over as conditioning coach. This way we just move salary around. Oh, and dress Mo as Stormy.
by Canes Pucknut on Nov 5, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
If I recall were the best disciplined team last year and they said this year they were gonna start out easy with the boys…
Maybe Freisin is a problem. I think I would file that sucker way down the list. We can score a new Ben Gay guy in a heart beat in the land of PHD’s called the triangle.
It’s just finding that wants to give up a lurcrative career for season tickets to some losers. I’d wait before I tried advertising his job…
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Not a “homeristic” response, but the injuries are often so bad because JR like to shop in the discount bin of the free agent market place. There’s a reason we get some of the guys we get at the prices we get them. Age and injury history. I personally could not give a flip one way or another about Freisen, but I don’t think him or man games lost is the problem here.
Is it the root problem: No
Is it a tertiary problem that does not help: Yes
Again, even if JR does shop in the discount bin, which he does, its the " Conditioning " coach’s job to get these guys ready. Not let them get injured in marathons, not let them blow out their Achilles running stairs, and to prevent things like groin pulls and soft tissue injuries. This has not happened on a consistent basis here.
If my job were to make widgets from what the boss buys, saying " The parts were old " a third of them break is not going to keep my job for me.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 5, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I’m still not sold, Rod is in awsome condition, he’s just old, not the coach fault. Maybe the artists clay is old??
I dunno maybe I’m a Homer, bit Freisen is so far down the list I don’t care.
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How about that time when cole broke his neck and good ol’ petey made him skate off the ice under his own steam…? With a broken neck? Really?
But I don’t think freisen bears much responsibility for this seasons (non)play
by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 5, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair, Colesy’s fracture was something that you really would have only seen with an X-Ray. He did not have any loss of feeling. I am not going to jump on anyone for how that was handled @ ice level. You do the best you can in crisis situations.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
+ 1 - Allowing Rod Brindamour to run in his race last year
should have gotten him fired on the spot.
by DidJussiThat? on Nov 5, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I was actually more pissed about J Willy’s ankle. Why were you working a guy who had been made of glass for a while that hard? That would be like telling Patrick Eaves to go skateboard in the parking lot. We all know how that would end, same with working Willy to death.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 5, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Allow me to correct that
In the vein of " TV’s Patirck Duffy ", Eaves should be henceforth known as " The IR’s Patrick Eaves ".
by Douchebag St John on Nov 5, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
why doesn't anyone have an answer?
i’m stumped. i just do not get why someone can’t do something with a talented group of players. and NOONE here or anywhere has an answer. noone. it’s weird. what do we need to do? how did mo not use sutter well? anyone? will he bury sutter’s offensive instinct as well? does mo end up sabotaging us sometimes?
Apparently you missed the part that the talent pool shrivveled on the vine. Too old and apathetic. This team needs more than just a few answers, it needs rebirth.
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You been preachin’ it since the summer. I was skeptical. But no more. I’d like to see the River Rats best line brought up to play here together. Stop bringing up one guy at a time to play 4th line minutes, if Mo’s feeling generous.
Something has to be done, but we can’t just keep bringing up Rats. We have to shed salary and wasted bodies. Gonna be some hard choices, that would of been alot easier months ago. So instead of gutting the Rats, now we are going to have to gut both the Canes and the Rats. Stupid waste. This year is going to be tough, Next year will be interesting, like Chicago a year or two ago, then who knows, maybe we are back to a summer with high hopes and expectations.
JR finaly topped the Anson Carter wtf this year though. The roster on paper looked good if the planets aligned. That isn’t realistic and we are now going to pay the price…
I’m gonna stay home for the Leafs game after all, one, I couldn’t get a warm carbon unit to go with and with all that’s happening I want the on air info.
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yup
the young ‘uns on the rats need to get here as our elderly players are dying slowly. they just can’t do it anymore against quicker younger players. and it’s painfully obvious. age gets the best of us. i’m only 37 and am called m’am all the time. but that’s the way it goes. just get those young quick rats down here now. enough stalling. we need POWER PLAYS now.
Rebuild with Francis, Sutter, Boychuk, and Bowman
Okay so far this year we are spending a ton of cash and getting nothing for our efforts. It is hard to say it but unless something happens in the next week or so Maurice is gone. Francis is the leader and future coach of this team so let him run the damn thing already. Everything they guy has touched has turned to gold for this franchise anyway. As for older vet’s that are nearing the end of their contracts such as Whitney (injured), Roddy, Sergei Samsanov (pardon the spelling), Wallin, Walker, and of course under performing LaRose and Alberts. Man most of these guys should be traded to make way for Bellemore, Carson, Borer, Boychuk, Bowman, Sutter, etc…. Youth movement is needed on the roster and we are no longer in 06’ which is what I agree with alot of my fellow bloggers.
FIRE MAURICE OR BUST IN 2010’ ~
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Nov 6, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply actions
I have never liked bringing back Mo
I never liked bringing back Mo. I know he did well at the end of last season, but in the long term it is better when the coach is NOT the best buddy of the GM. They need to have business relationship so that the the coach can be fired when situation calls for it. In his first stint with Hurricanes, Mo should have been fired much earlier, it took a season in which the team finished dead last for JR to finally let him go. What is it going to take now? I was disappointed when he was signed to a new contract, I hoped that JR will finally go with experienced coach with proven track record, but no.
I do not think we can blame Mo for everything, but as a coach he has a great responsibility for what is going on. His job is to motivate players and make sure that they perform. JR made mistakes when he put this team together, but he still put together a reasonably viable team that should fight for play-off position.
Here is a list of my personal qualms with Mo coaching:
1. Mismanagement of goaltending situation. Mo’s approach is go with Cam Ward every game. That cannot work, Cam needs a rest here and there. Leighton is not a great goalie, and maybe should be replaced, but Cam simply cannot play all the games.
2. Constant tinkering with lines. Changes are sometimes needed, especially when the team is losing, but changing lines constantly and playing everyone in wrong position is not going to help. Instead, it sends the message that the coach has no clue what is wrong and how to fix it.
3. Playing Sutter on a 4th line for 10 minutes a game. Sutter has shown that he is capable of playing at NHL level, and showed himself in a great light scoring the only goals over 3 games. What will Mo do with a player like that? Puts him on the 4th line with and plays him 10 minutes a night. WTF??? That shows the team that effort will be rewarded.
I think that Mo should go, despite his success at the end of last year, I do not think he is a very good coach. In fact, he should not have been hired. Sadly, being JR’s buddy, he will stay. We can at least hope that this team is capable of playing decent hockey despite Mo’s presence.
Mo was actually fired the season after the lockout and our dead-last-but-lost-the-lottery finish year (‘03-’04) when we got off to a start better than the one we have now. And, JR reaching out to an available and comfortable-fit friend as a band-aid to get him through the remainder of last season is understandable, although shocking to many fans, including me. I was streaming the video of that press conference when the announcement was made and had trouble coping with the fact it was a live feed and not archival footage when I saw Paul’s face at the table next to JR’s.
However, your list of his sins this year is dead on.
He’s always overworked the #1 goalie, seemingly into an approach that assesses only what is needed for the game at hand, instead of a more comprehensive approach to the game distributions to our two goalies.
And his most maddening trait to me is the “rolling of the bones” to produce seemingly every possible line permutation there could be, often in the same game. I think it’s the #1 reason our lines never seem to demonstrate the chemistry seen on other teams. I strongly believe the lines should be set and the members of each line given a chance to more fully understand the whereabouts and tendencies of their linemates. Best lines in hockey have a pair that is really clicking with one another and a complementary third.
Finally, his seemingly fear of playing any of our newbies in any significant ice time position goes way past Sutter. JR’s cleared his throat through the press about his expectations for top-nine minutes for both Sutter and Boychuk, so maybe we’ll see a bit more of them now. But left to his own devices, even Staal had trouble getting ice time under Mo when he first arrived. He does love the plodding vet.
As for firing him? I just don’t see it. Why in the world JR gave him a three-year contract, I’ll never know. Surely that wasn’t what it took to have him move his family from Toronto to here. But, I’m not expecting a change in the coaching chair anytime soon.
And Kudo’s to PK and company for being quite.
Though I would like to hear from him. The first time he poinies up big league salary nickels and get’s a kick in the balls for it.
Not really a list of GM’s out there floating I’d swap JR for, but if anybody’s job security is shaky I’m thinking the way he just mis handled this has to hurt his quarterly review.
I’d laugh my ass off to a co-GM….
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Remember.......
….JR is also a partial owner of the team. Like Mo, he is not going anywhere. This is also another root of the teams problem, the GM is not answerable to a boss because he IS the boss. The relationship between business partners is way different than the Employee/employer relationship.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, i know, I just would like some accountability and they have it worked so everyone is immune except maybe an innocent player.
Sutter is very marketable, yet he’s one of the few bright spots. We’ve gone over Mo and Rod ad nauseum. I’m pretty frustrated this year in particular. I saw this coming and knew it would be worse the farther it got. Never did I imagine it would suck this bad mind you. So now we are not only stuck with a pretty impotent team, we are now forced to call up the “Kids” and introduce them in a hostile and desperate environment rather than the beginning of the year when hope was still alive.
I dunno, this really sucks and like I said, i’d like to see a head roll. Like you said it ain’t gonna be Mo or JR. Stinky brought up a good point about junior getting bumped up if JR fell off the Earth and where the hell would that leave us?
A shitty losing season hurts the fans and the players, not the architects. I want an architect swinging from a tree dammit or drawn and quartered by the Olympia’s.
Oh well us and the Leafs got two coming up and one against each other. The winner/loser will determine just who sucks the worst this weekend.
Not at all where we should be.
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My seat mate keeps reminding me “it’s just a family business” when I rail about the lack of professionalism at times.
Not only is JR family, but he’s a minority owner of the team, so I just do not see that post changing until JR is good and ready to turn it loose to the designated heir.
The single greatest development in the org in the past couple of years, in my opinion, is the development of the “brain trust” at the top. I’m a huge believer and practitioner of collaborative thinking. Two (or more) heads are indeed better than one.
So with Francis, Barasso, and Wesley blended into the mix of coaches (Rowe!) that we have assembled, I’m hopeful that better decisions are being made about personnel than when it was essentially all up to JR and the coach.
So, no co-GM anytime soon, I doubt. Not even sure that’s a good idea. But, hopefully the brain trust will find a way to get this team going.
PK would probably put his son in charge for sure
and what would that accomplish? JR is a good judge of talent, but he plays favorites and rewards veterans waaaaaaaaay too much.
Mo had lots of practice dealing with media on behalf of a losing team in hockey-mad Toronto. He is used to coaching weak teams though it is not necessarily his fault. Leafs have Wilson now and they are even worse….so it’s not Mo’s fault. The players have to decide to get over their “injuries” quickly, show some of that true Canadian grit and come back night after night until the ice starts to tilt in their direction. A Boychuk injection may be timely and motivating (see Benn with Dallas). A bad October doesn’t have to mean a bad season. Look at the Ducks last year. Staal needs to be the leader he should be now. Some guys hear criticism and crawl into a hole, others with some jam become more determined and reach down for more. Which one are you Eric?
The kind who goes home....
..when his mangina is dry. But then again, that is just my opinion.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
FICKLE
Anybody who plays that many games straight, deserves better. Saying Eric Staal has a “mangina” after playing for over four years straight without missing a game, you guys are weak.
Nyet...
….how many times during that Streak did we see him coast during said " Streak "? Hurm?
Why is he being paid like a superstar and in the top 5 of forwards in the league but aside from one season, he is not even a point per game player? Hurm?
I know that homerisim is blinding, but really?
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Come on, seriously you are gonna crap on him because he is getting paid. YOu wanna gripe, gripe at JR for giving him that much money. Homerism of not, I think he is better than what half of you give him credit for. He has flaws, and I think they have less to do with desire than some of you indicate as well. He is a streaky player, but he is also a guy who on many occasions has risen against pressure and helped us to succeed. I think he deserves alot better than he gets around here.
Hell if we started talking about how Cam gives up softies within the first couple of minutes of giving up a goal, half of you in here would have your panties in bunch.
Removing the post lockout season:
2003-2004 Hurricanes 81 11 20 31 -6 40 2 1 3 164 6.7
Remove cup year
2006-2007 Hurricanes 82 30 40 70 -6 68 12 1 1 288 10.4
2007-2008 Hurricanes 82 38 44 82 -2 50 14 0 7 310 12.3
2008-2009 Hurricanes 82 40 35 75 15 50 14 1 8 372 10.8
2009-2010 Hurricanes 13 3 2 5 -5 34 2 0 0 54 5.6
340 games played
263 points.
Aside from one career year, not exactly a superstar.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I am not paid to do it....
…but thats a great " I cant answer your facts " response.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
you did a great job of looking up stats. Truth is how timely were the ones he scored. HOw about the statistics of our wins when he is on the score sheet. How about the times he drew the defense and left a man open? PPG is not the only thing that matters.
He has falws in his game, and he is streaky, I owned up to both in my post. However, you are griping about how he is being payed compared to his numbers. That is JR’s fault, not Staal’s. So if anyone has dry mangina syndrome or whatever snarky thing you wanna say it is the GM. Truth is Staal is just the popular goat around here. Let’s talk about Wardo’s .GAA for the last 4 years and compare him to who you would propose are the top goalies in the league. After all he is gonna be the third highest paid goalie next year right…..
I concur about Wardo...
….but only the most die hard of mindless homers have not been all over him at this point. The guys is a playoff beast…and that is it. His under performance is a known quantity but some people, JR being one of them, cant get over the Conn Smythe. He should be and is held in equally accountable. We simply were not talking about him. If you would like to talk about Ward we can, but it would be a short conversation. THN has already said all that needs to by ranking him I believe 25th or something like that last year.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
dude, that’s four years straight without missing a game, I don’t care what he gets paid. I don’t pay him, all professional sports athletes are overpaid. For anyone to call a him less than a man after playing four years without missing a game and playing the minutes he does is weak.
Glenn Wesley....
….played a ton of minutes and many games straight. He did not score and no one calls him out…why? Because that is not what he was paid to do, he was paid to block shots and hit people. He did that well.
Staal is paid to be a SUPERSTAR scorer. He is NOT one nor has he been save for the year where everyone was (Cheechoo had 56 goals!). Giving him a free pass for games played is like saying that you should keep the guy who only makes 5 widgets a day when the expectation is 50 employed because at least he shows up.
Good on Eric for playing a bunch of games….thanks. He still needs to be held accountable for:
Not being the scorer he is paid to be
Skating with his head down when things dont go his way
Simply not performing
Giving him a free pass, as homers are want to do, does nothing but encourage the behavior. If he were on a Canadian team he and Jason Blake would be comparable players and held in the same esteem by fans and the media.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
If he were on another team, one that was well run, they would go out and get him decent wing to play with and he probably would be PPG.
Agree
+76 to you sir, because that is spot on.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
But.....
….real superstars overcome those limitations.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno about that. Would Francis of racked up his numbers without the grace of the lines he was on? Brindy? Gretz? Lemiux?
Nope I think we are seeing a new game being played and loners like Crosby and AO can shine with other talent on the ice. Not like a Rocket Richard who was just a step better. I think Eric plays much better hockey when he doesn’t have to shoulder a team like AO does. He can step up, like the first time Rod went down. It ain’t his fortay apparently.
Nah, I don’t think Staal’s failure is his talent. It’s his drive and lack of help.
As for his streak, if any of you think he gave 100% all the time, take another pull on the bong. The kid played hurt, alot and it hurt the team. That’s not guts, that’s selfish and a rookie move.
Staal is not performing to his pay grade, anything else is an excuse.
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I’m no homer, I actually think the team is playing below capability but not by much. I didn’t expect this to be a good year, adding the veterans this team did was only to give more time for Sutter,Bowman, and Boychuk to grow up. It’s a long season, Sutter’s looked good in 2 games. Apparently , our debate isn’t quite even-footed. You debate Staal’s “Superstar salary” , I think he deserves at least recognition for having played in every game for the last 4 years, only one other player can say that currently. Honestly, I think he may be overrated sure, but I don’t doubt his manhood. I don’t have THAT vested an interest in this team to take it personally when they lose. Then again, I never understood fantasy leagues either.
Fantasy Leagues....
….are the best way to insult your friends possible. Hence why they are so fun.
THN had this team picked to finish 6th in the East if I recall. I dont think that was an unrealistic expectation on paper. Injuries ( AGAIN, year after year…different topic) have taken their toll but more so its a general apathy from the players(not Mo’s fault, well maybe kinda, but there is only so much one person can do) and poor Coaching decisions(Totally Mo’s fault) have been the undoing of this team. Leighton may not be the greatest option but playing a goalie with confidence more fragile than The IR’s Patrick Eaves to death is just plain bad decision making.
Even before he was " hurt " Staal had been coasting, at best, just down right apathetic at worst. Now, if he had been playing hurt the whole time, kudos to him for hard work and I take his apparent need for lube back, but expectations of the fan base need to be managed and the team needs to LET US KNOW that this was the case. I am the paying customer and I deserve better than to see a superstar doing what appears to be a half assed job. If he was in fact trying to play through something serious, then tell us and it will completely nullify any criticism, which upon confirmation that he was playing banged up would be rendered undeserved.
If a guy is playing hurt, then no, he is not a flaming a#$ bag, but if he is coasting simply because the team is playing bad, then his not a professional and should not be paid as such.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
So, if I told you what his injury was and how long he’s actually been playing with it, your opinion of him would change? Fresh off a trip to the Eastern Conference finals even?
Frankly....
…Not completely, See Paladin’s post from 12:18pm as he says what I am thinking, but yes to an extent. If the dude has been grinding it out with a legitimate injury, not just his longing to look into Cole’s eyes from across the ice, then he deserves some credit for that. I would give him that credit.
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
That’s been my only point. Trust me, he deserves it.It’s injuries, not injury. It’s part of being a professional in the NHL, not a ‘rookie’ move, but then, you don’t get paid to know that.
So you are on the training staff for gale force....
….I can correctly assume and ARE paid to be able to know when someone is injured. Sounds like a great gig!
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
In fact....
….in your professional and sound medical opinion are the bumps I have always contagious or only when they are leaking fluid?
by Douchebag St John on Nov 6, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
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