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So what's next for the Canes?


Anything is possible in the NHL, but based on previous seasons the Canes would need to win 42 of their remaining 66 games to maybe squeak into the playoffs.  With Staal and Cam out for who knows how long, this is about as likely as me winning the lottery.  So, what do the Canes do now?  I say they look to bring a player or two back through a trade, load up on prospects/picks, reduce payroll, and gain some NHL experience for the kids.

I read a couple of articles from Chicago about how they might be in the market for a 2nd line center.  I know Whitney was rumored to Chicago, but wingers are not what they need.  The article discussed the Hawks acquiring Cullen or Brind'Amour or even Staal.  The Staal for Campbell, Versteeg, and a draft pick would be ridiculous in my opinion.  The Brind'Amour and something for Barker would peek my interest.  I just don't think Chicago would do that.  If anybody would take Brindy, please JR; make it happen.  Cullen to Chicago; now that is a real possiblilty.  I think we would be looking for Sharp or Barker in return and both players could do well with the Canes.  Cullen is in the final year of his contract and because JR has given so much to Staal and Cam, it would be unlikely Cullen would return.

I also think JR should have a sit down with Walker and Whitney, thank them for their services, and ask them to waive their no-trade contracts.  Trade them to a contender or a surprise team for either some prospects or picks.  Since their contracts expire after this season, we could always bring them back (if they or we want to) next season at a much friendlier number.  If we could trade AWard or Wallin, I would do that in a heartbeat, but I don't believe anyone will take those players.  If Cullen for Barker would go down, it would be easier to trade Joe Corvo.  He might be our most tradable asset at this time, so who knows what we could get for him.  Others will disagree with me and I know Sammy is playing well recently, but I'm not a big fan or his.  If someone would give me something for him, I would jump at it.

If some of these trades would happen, the Canes would then be able to call up and keep some of the kids from Albany.  Let's try to determine what we have, so we can be better prepared for next season.  Sutter is here to stay and Boychuk will be on this team next year.  The questions arise after those two.  Are Bowman, McBain, Rodney, Carson on next year's squad?  We need to find out this season, rather than getting off to another slow start in 10-11.  Attendance is going to struggle the rest of this season, at least give the fans some hope with playing "the future" now.

The last thing the organization needs to do is to work hard to prepare for the draft.  We are probably looking at a top 3 pick, probably #1.  If we can acquire more picks, this year's draft may be the cornerstone of the Canes future.  We have improved some recently, but scouting has not been the Canes best quality.  With our first pick, we are probably looking at Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin, or John McFarland (knowing JR doesn't draft D-men if the 1st round and will probably stay away from the Russian).  I haven't seen any of these kids play, I have just read things about them.  Hall seems to be a scorer with speed that will probably play either center or left wing.  He was compared in Pavel Bure.  Seguin is a playmaking center, he was compared to Joe Sakic.  McFarland is a very good skater with some size, no comparisons listed.  With so many young guys expected on the Canes roster next season, we will have to replenish the minor leagues (especially with how injured we always are) with good prospects.

Just for perspective, this could be the opening line-up for the Canes next season.

LW-C-RW

Zach Boychuk - Eric Staal - Erik Cole

Taylor Hall - Brandon Sutter - Tuomo Ruutu

Sergei Samsonov - Jussi Jokinen - Chad LaRose

Drayson Bowman - Rod Brind'Amour - Tom Kostopoulos

Joni Pitkanen - Cam Barker

Jamie McBain - Tim Gleason

Bryan Rodney - Andrew Alberts

Cam Ward - Mike Murphy

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Personally I think you have hit the nail on the head with this post. I’m from Hartford and have been a fan of the Whalers/Canes since the early 90’s when I was 8-9. The major issue with Canes right now is inconsistency. They’re putting in great effort, but when their offense is applying good sustained pressure, the defense is going through lapses or vice versus. I know you had mentioned traded one of our centers (staal, brindy, or cullen), but it would be franchise suicide if we trade Staal. We would be putting our franchise’s progress back a good few seasons, no matter how many prospects successfully make the jump to the NHL this or next season. Right now we need to finish this year with the intentions of evaluating the older players and who will be willing to take lesser roles and help mentor the younger players.
    Specifically, tell players with expiring contracts that the franchise is now building for the draft and how we want to give them a chance to go to a winner/contender for the rest of the season. Stockpile picks and scout the hell out of draft eligible players. Brindy needs to accept a reserve role, he hasn’t been the same for 2 seasons now. He still has some jump and grit, but he’s not going to put up more than 40 points in a season.
I just hope Ward is okay and our prospects continue to develop at a speedy but consistent rate.

by Caniac Kid on Nov 8, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

trades

ok with the thoughts except the Staal trade, Campbell is a disappointment that skates very well and thats it. I take a “Kessel” type deal for Staal though, 2 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder from a terrible team. I wanted to do a poll to see what the consensus would be on that type of deal for Staal, but then we went to shit and it got all to sad. Time to make room for the new guys though. jmho

by xlwino on Nov 8, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree getting Kessel type compensation for Staal would make it easier, but realistically there are two significant factors that inhibit any potential deal. A) Staal is a proven commodity, while Kessel has had one good year. Staal is considered one of the top 20 forwards in the league. He would command a lot more than 2 firsts and a second. B) The likelihood of a bad team trading for Staal, thus giving us 2 high firsts is unlikely, almost impossible. Teams typically don’t build their faulty franchises up by trading away significant draft picks for players, ex. LA, Columbus (prior to their recent playoff appearances).
 The Canes trading of Staal would be foolish. Teams tht have traded their stars recently have done so because of their expiring contracts, ex. Hossa from ATL. I’m not saying it’d be unreasonable to trade him, but personally I don’t want it to happen and I don’t think it would serve the franchise well.

I agree the enjoyment of watching NHL hockey needs to be appreciated despite our team’s struggles. If this is the expectation for the year (bottom 5 finish) then i do look forward to gritty play and hindering some other SE division teams’ chances of making playoffs or their seed in the playoffs.

by Caniac Kid on Nov 8, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you, I am not a Stall hater nor do I want to trade him. I was just looking for some discussion and a little stirring of the pot.

by xlwino on Nov 8, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What’s next?

The fans need to sit back, relax, and try to enjoy watching NHL hockey (if nothing else just focus on watching the opponent) and supporting the team through what is going to be utter hell.

The team needs to keep moving forward with the losses, and when the trade deadline rolls around in 4 months, we have the firesale to end all firesales.

Then everyone can look forward to a future with Staal, Ward, Pitkanen, Gleason, Ruutu, Boychuk, Sutter, Bowman, McBain, Carson, Dalpe, Paradise, Dumoulin, and others, hopefully including Taylor Hall with the 1st overall pick next year and some other good finds.

by DaleCooper on Nov 8, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1 on the part about the fans.

I know it’s frustrating for everyone but I cannot stress enough that this is the time when they need the most support. So please don’t give up on them.

by caniacgirl on Nov 8, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DaleCooper - very well said. I agree. This season is about the future. The fire sale of all fire sales needs to happen to bring in faster, quicker, bigger, stronger and wide open throttle players. It’s one of those times in a franchise’s history that separates the men from the boys -- players who refuse to quit versus talented athletes who lack that extra drive to succeed. Compare Ruutu and Brind’Amour. Brind’Amour probably will go into the hall of fame; but he has been the worst player on the ice for over two years. Ruutu is putting the team on his shoulders and is laying his heart on the line shift after shift. Sutter, too, is proving he is one of the best forwards on the team. I totally agree with you about the fans. We’ll be there Sunday, loud and enthusiastic — even when things fall apart.

by abramsdoug on Nov 14, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let me clarify the post. The article I read mentioned trading Staal for Campbell. I would not. I know a lot of people do not like Staal, but I think he is a great player.
Regarding not giving up. I don’t want to, but I think instead of holding on to the past, we should prepare for the future. Anything can happen in the playoffs, so just getting there is the goal. I do not see us getting there, so let begin developing a team that can next year.

by PackPride17 on Nov 8, 2009 5:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think anyone on this earth would. Campbell practically has negative value due to his bloated contract. I wouldn’t trade Gunner Staal for him. Or even Gunnar Stahl.

by DaleCooper on Nov 8, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I could definitely see a trade with Chicago happening, maybe not in the immediate future but certainly by the trade deadline. They need to clear long term cap space to sign Toews, Kane, and Keith next off-season and the most likely candidates to be traded are Barker, Versteeg, and Sharp. It would be great if we could swing a Corvo + Cullen + 2nd/3rd round pick (likely a very good one) or prospect for Barker + Versteeg. They get decent rental players for the rest of this season at a reduced cost and a pick/prospect while we pick up two young, fast, offensively minded players signed to 3 year deals.

by JussiJuice on Nov 9, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Do Corvo + Cullen for Barker (and maybe a 4th or something) without Versteeg or us giving up a pick and I may be sold.

by DaleCooper on Nov 9, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if we do anything with Chicago, we have to take more salary back than we give. they are in to much cap trouble. that’s why Cullen for Barker would work. Barker is just over $3M and Cullen is at $2.8.

by PackPride17 on Nov 9, 2009 10:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

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