Jeff Daniels: Manny Legace Has A History Of Getting Hot
by Cory Lavalette on Nov 9, 2009 3:50 PM EST
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Earlier today, I mentioned that newly signed goalie Manny Legace had played in Springfield and was part of an infamous event that led to a 10-game suspension. One of his teammates on that team? Current Albany River Rats head coach/general manager Jeff Daniels.
Daniels, a former Whaler and Hurricane, spent parts of two seasons — 1995-96 and 1996-97 — in Springfield, both with Legace. So he's a pretty good authority on what the newest Carolina Hurricanes goalie is capable of.
"He's a veteran goalie," Daniels said. "He's not nervous, and he has a history of getting hot."
"Hot" is certainly something the Canes could use right now, given their 12-game slide and descent to the bottom of the NHL standings, and the addition of a veteran goalie to help backup Michael Leighton shoulder the load probably gives the team the best chance to turn around their season without injured Cam Ward. It also will give Justin Peters, Daniels' No. 1 goalie in Albany, the playing time he needs to develop.
Daniels said he was not consulted by the team as to whether he felt Peters was ready to assume a role in Carolina, but Carolina GM Jim Rutherford’s quick attention to the goaltender depth situation points to the Carolina brass wanting Peters go see the ice in Albany.
" I know it's a big year for Justin," Daniels said.
Daniels has already seen Carolina recall some of his players, the biggest loss being center Brandon Sutter, who has the look of a player who will stick in the NHL this time around ("I've heard he's playing really well," Daniels said). But forward Zach Boychuk was returned to the River Rats Sunday, and Jay Harrison cleared waivers and joined the AHL team Nov. 3, providing more defensive depth with blueline anchor Brett Carson still out with a broken wrist and Casey Borer still recovering from September neck surgery.
But in Year 2 of Carolina's full affiliation with Albany, Daniels’ team can better handle the fluctuation that comes with being an AHL team.
"We have a little more depth than we had last year," Daniels said.
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Getting to be like grammar nazi’s around here. I’m scared I’ll get banned if I don’t indent..
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For a storm to suck this hard, it must be a black hole
My grammar dun up an' dyed a few yars bak
reel sad like
When all else fails, read the instruction manual.
Maybe i should change my signature to
My grammir sucks as bad as the Canes, when they get better so will my spulleng
Wadda ya think?
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Girlfriend if I had any way to effect/affect this team I be on it like..
Well I’d be all over it, trust me.
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I think the Canes will win the cup
before Paladin6’s grammar gets any better.
When all else fails, read the instruction manual.
Manny is supposed to be on 99.9 shortly. (4:25pm was the announcement)
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
Here’s the link to the audio – worth the listen.
Turns out, his unfortunate situation goes back to Sarah Palin, – the hockeymom that ruined that designation for the rest of us.
(I rarely wear lipstick, btw)
(Who amongst us wanted to blame it all on George Bush?)
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
more to do with hope, grief, acceptance
So here’s an interesting Twitter dialog:
Mark Morreale tweeted this at 4;15, about his new piece for NHL.com, on the Canes situation:
nhldigest Maurice still believes his Hurricanes can turn it around http://ff.im/-bd6GK
this came back:
illegalcurve @nhldigest he may be the only believer
mike’s response:
nhldigest @illegalcurve That’s true…but what did they expect him to say? Is he really going to throw his team and himself under the bus this early?
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
“I spoke to Cam and I can tell you this is frustrating and difficult for him,” Maurice said. “It’s not something you can just jump right back from. He needs to cleanse himself and come back healthy.”
Poor Cam. Every time I think I’m over it, something like that comes out and I’m depressed all over again.
What he needs a bath?
HOT TUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Yup!!
She used to be the bane of my grammatical challengedness. I give even a small opportuinity and she’d be all over me like white on rice. I was enjoying the reprieve (ei?) and then the grammar nazi movement started.
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You have any first aid training? Because between the two of us we may be able to convince them that we’re home nurses.
YES! That’s perfect. I have some first aid skills too. And make a mean cup-o-soup. He will be all set. :)
If nothing else, he’ll heal faster just to get away from us.
Yeah,
I’m sure Cam’s wife, and Cam being the good Christian he is, would really like that.
Hmmmm, maybe Cam needs to go over to Paladin’s house, forget about praying to Jesus, and sacrifice chickens to the hockey gods.
When all else fails, read the instruction manual.
?????
It was supposed to continue=>
Yeah, I’m sure Cam’s wife would be ecstatic and with Cam being a good Baptist Christian and all…..
Maybe that’s the problem. Maybe Cam needs to go to Paladin’s house, forget about praying to Jesus, and sacrifce chickens along with Paladin to the hockey gods.
When all else fails, read the instruction manual.
I’m not sure I want Cam anywhere near Paladin and his chicken sacrifices. That has a “Joe Sakic snowblower” feel to it that I’m just not comfortable with.
And I don’t know why you think Cam and his wife would have issues with Jen and I helping out (we were only going to make soup!). It gives his wife a break and urges Cam to heal faster. Win win for everyone. :)
Here's a story my dad used to tell about his dad:
My grandfather had to spend a few days in the hospital, decades ago, when he was a young man. Two nurses came in to his room one morning to give him his sponge bath.
Grandpa told the first one to start with his face and work down as far as possible. He told the second nurse to start with his feet and work up as far as possible. “And me,” he said, “I’ll wash possible.”
Not sure why this popped into my head.
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
Welcome to the pre-teen years. They may be worse than the teen years. I hated myself then-I don’t know how my mom did it.
My mom used to tell me that I could come back and talk to her only when I was myself again. Sometimes it took longer than others, but it kept us from killing each other in the long run.
As a mother of 2 boys, this is your paybacks for having a daughter who didn’t terrorize you from ages 3 to 6….I hated the smug faces of the “I’m so much better at this than you are” mothers-of-girls at those weekly nieghborhood preschool playdates, wondering why I couldnt control my sons better. ;)
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
Wanna trade?
I’ll give you three teenage girls for your two boys anytime.
Yeah, it’s 3 to 2, but mine have about 2 years before the youngest gets the boot, er, moves away.
When all else fails, read the instruction manual.
I’m of the thought boys are way easier. That don’t have that hormonal headspinning, pea soup spitting thing called teenage years, everything isn’t a life or death crisis and they can’t come home prgnant. Boys just break things. Not to mention boys usually vote better on TV programs as they age…
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One of the decided benefits of JR choosing to buy the insurance policy that is Legace is that there will now be less pressure to rush Cam back prematurely as the savior of the team.
Less, mind you…not non-existent.
Do we know that there is an insurance policy on Cam this season? Hadn’t seen that.
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
No, we do not know if there is an insurance policy on this year’s salary for Cam. Saw someone claim we had such a policy for his new contract, but unknown about the current one.
I was merely referring to Legace as being an “insurance policy” for the goalie position.
Sorry if that sounded like we were using insurance money from a policy on Cam to pay for Legace. Not my intent. Instead, I’m willing to bet that Manny’s salary is coming out of PK’s pocket.
Maybe that’s why PK was here today. Inventory. LOL
Yep – I read that too quickly. Thinking of what I’d seen discussed earlier. Thanks for taking the time to clarify. Lots of information out there today.
Yes, inventory is probably an apt word for Mr Karmanos today. Looking at the one photo LTD had and hearing he was on the bench and not in the stands, looking down from afar, that’s pretty indicative of his message. I think he came here to offer support to the guys on the ice and stand with his team. Not to see heads roll.
This is a really interesting franchise. Very likeable and kind, with priorities based on those traits; not exactly cut-throat competitive. Maybe that’s why the Canes have so many women fans. (that and their close attention to woman pauloihinsa).
Maybe that’s why they lose so much too. (along the lines of “nice guys finish last”)
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
Nah, I thought it was a fact he was insured on the previous contract? If so, even this moronic “brain trust” wouldn’t step up to the big contract and not renew the ins.
You don’t buy a spec house and ins. it to then go out and buy the dream house and not ins. it.
If he weren’t you’d have PK on suicide watch, JR under protective custody and nobody would be smiling at practice.
My bet is a contract that big and that long has ins. underwriting all over it.
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If not? I can’t think of any other possible mistake this group could pull off.
Maybe a lobotomy for Staal to make him more focused and single minded?
I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy…
I’m sorry, if Cam ain’t insured I’m laughing my ass off. The hockey Gods have spoken!! The word is LOOOOSAR.
That would be the chip at which point I have lost all respect for the whole org.
Anybody or group that stupid, oop ‘scuse. STOOPID, deserves it. I hope the PLayers Union decimates the franchise. They have failed at every single turn from the end of last season and if they gave out the second biggest contract and didn’t ins. the player….
HA!!!! First smile I’ve had since Cam went down!!!!
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Yeah, that NEW contract most def would have to have insurance associated with it.
However, he may not yet be on that new contract. When they “renew”, not sure that backdates to the current contract.
He’s on the last year of his current contract, which may or may not be insured.
Here’s the closest thing I could find to some hard information on the insurance options available to NHL teams, albeit a bit dated (9/08).
Doesn’t surprise me much. Insurance in general is a mess.
My most expensive “employee”, by far. And I have some expensive employees.
You know that with the history of this team, the premiums on any Cane player must be astronomical. I’d bet the annual premiums on Patrick Eaves would be more than his salary…
by East of Here on Nov 9, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
This board is just a photoshopping machine today! Nicely done. And the only person that would have even come close to matching Patty “Teacup” Eaves’s premiums is J.Willy.
I originally did that ‘chop as "Patrick Eaves’ Practice Jersey". But it seems appropriate to recycle it now that we are the Carolina Hurticanes. Or is it the Carolina Handicanes? Or maybe the Hartford ‘Wheelers? I can’t seem to keep it straight anymore…
by East of Here on Nov 9, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
This is a really interesting franchise. Very likeable and kind, with priorities based on those traits…
As frustrating as it can be to watch this org’s (which my seatmate keeps reminding me “it’s just a family business, after all”) business decisions at times (especially with an all-Peter-Principle staff), the plus side of the org is its emphasis on acquiring character and the loyalty that the org shows to its players…until they double-cross JR, that is.
It is a likable bunch, which fits well into our Carolina culture.
Playoffs this year?.......Hell no!
Here’s the math……………………
2008-2009 season record 45-30-7 total of 97pts
2009-2010 season………….. 2-11-3
With 66 games left you would have to at the min. win 46 games with 20 more losses.
This gives you 95pts for this season if thats enough. So starting with Wed. game the Canes have to win 70% of the games left. So out of 5 games they have to win 3 go into overtime 1 and lose 1.
Basically the Canes have to win 7 games out of 10 from this point on just to try to get an eighth spot at best.
You try it, doesn’t look good from here.
Or,
90 more points in the remaining 66 games, 1.36 points per game. Basically the same 7 wins every 10 games, although 6 wins and 2 OT losses gets the same result. The bottom line is the losing has to stop Wednesday against the Kings. We are 10 points out of eighth in the Eastern conference. Cut that to less than 3 by the Olympic break in February, and maybe we have a chance.
Extremely tough row to hoe, I know, but it’s there in front of them if they want it.
Let me be plain that I just do not see them making the playoffs.
However, the way to do so is to win 22 three-game tournaments.
Break the season into 3-game tourneys and win 2 out of each 3 games…for every one of ’em.
That’s why it’s not going to happen.
But you could sweep 2 and lose a couple others 1-2.
Still, it would be the most remarkable come-back story in the history of the NHL, especially with the Cam Ward injury over-riding the whole thing. Pretty much a fairy tale.
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
At some time, my stomach and my psyche couldn’t handle the repeated disappointment.
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
6 points in the next 4 games — Kings, Isles, Wild, and Canadiens — would settle my stomach a little. Anything less that that, and I’ll give in to the acceptance crowd. Still gonna root for the team, go to games, search for a glimmer of hope, try to determine which of my pregame rituals bring them luck, speculate on lines, call for changes, etc. You know, the fan stuff :)
Unless we win the division, bus crashes anyone?
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If you got the wrenches,
I’ll collect and bring the wenches to distract them.
When all else fails, read the instruction manual.
I’ve noticed his injury has gone from missing a few games to day to day now week to week. CH has him out 2 to 4 weeks. It’s odd that they haven’t said anything else about him, but I guess there has been other issues.
So, all my teams suck!
Here it is:
Eric Staal was around the locker-room area today and working out with trainer Pete Friesen. Staal said he is feeling better and “hates” sitting and watching the games.
“He’s on the bike, he’s growly, he’s a little bit snarly,” Maurice said. "Most guys with injuries, you don’t want to hang out and chat with them. You just kind of nod with them as he goes bad.
“He’s not in a very good mood and you like that he wants to play badly.”
you know whats not a good sign?
the wolves had legace and Chelios and still couldnt manage a winning record…
That is scary. You may get the genius-of-the-month award for picking this up this little stat if things don’t turn around by Thanksgiving. But then again, did JR realistically have any better alternatives?
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
by hockeymomof2 on Nov 10, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Legace said in his 99.9 interview last night that he held back a lot while with Chicago so that he didn’t get hurt (didn’t want to ruin his chances of getting signed by an NHL club). So maybe that’s got something to do with it.
At least we didn’t sign Chelios too. Paladin would have had a fit.
“sign Chelios”??? AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t you blaspheme, uh uh, don’t even let that thought spread!!!
Though on funny note, it couldn’t actually the D. Sucks, sucks. Who knows maybe he’d have some tips on Ben Gay application, the best flavor of Ensure and the most comfy Depends…
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I can't believe I'm going to give this to you but...
…no matter how you define it can it be worse than some of our guys now?
Am I a bad Hurricanes fan for secretly wishing that the Canes tank the rest of the year and get a high pick in the draft? I just don’t see how turning things around will lead us to the playoffs. It’s too steep a hill to climb at this point. Even worse, what if Legace helps us to turn it all around? I don’t even like this prospect. I was there when the Canes won the cup in 2006 and remember everything Cam did for us during the playoffs that year. To me, this is Cam’s team, just like the Devils are Broduer’s team. What if Cam isn’t the same when he is back?
I dunno Chris, I’m gonna have to counter with a +1.
Though if we don’t get Hall it’s “mute” 8-D
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You’re not the only one that feels this way. I can’t imagine this team doing anything without Cam, let alone succeeding. It just feels wrong to me, but then again I often have a hard time separating how I feel about players as people from the way I feel about the team in general.
As far as Cam being the same when he comes back, he won’t be. At least not for a while. We just have to wait and hope that he’ll get there before too long.
The trouble with this would be that winning tends to get people to come out to the games, and if they tank the rest of the season, people might stop showing up. Then, we’d be ridiculed for being an unfit market for a team, and the team would be in financial trouble, which could have consequences for years.
Good point. Not that I haven’t thought about that part of it. Although if we got Hall he could be marketed in 2010, but getting to that point involves some risk. Pittsburgh nearly lost its entire hockey franchise getting Fluery, Malkin, Crosby and Staal. My gut instinct tells me we will rebound, possibly with Legace in the net in the next few weeks. If we don’t get better soon, we will definitely be out of the playoffs. At least we can focus on bringing in the young players if that happens. But we are not in a hockey market that can survive for long if we are not winning. People will lose interest and turn to basketball, football or whatever. In this kind of ecomony people will not want to spend money on a team that is not winning.
by hockeythoughts on Nov 10, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Attendance is already down. Cory or Bob gave some hard figures in one of the game threads, which one escapes me now. I honestly doubt our chances at the playoffs, and making them would require such herculean effort, it would most likely be a brief appearance at best. Having said that, I hate the idea of building a team through losing, a la Pittsburgh. I would be much happier to see the boys winning, even if it is for naught.
by wylde4canes on Nov 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
One positive outcome could be that Cam feels that he has to earn his way back as the unquestionable number 1 in goal. Maybe he will find the hunger again. Still, this was supposed to be the year he would find his way to the upper echelon of goalies. That will have to wait another year, at least.
by hockeythoughts on Nov 10, 2009 10:16 AM EST reply actions
Quality of Posts
No offense to Cory & Bubba , but the quality (?) of posts on this site has fallen as quickly as the ’Canes season. Reading one and two sentence exchanges between individuals with
too much time on their hands is NOT the purpose of this site. Do Paladin 6 and Caniacgirl have a job ? If you do, you need to refund some $ to your employer.
Let’s post comments worthy of those who spend time and effort to operate the blog.
I sincerely apologize to Cory, Bob and HM if I’ve taken away from all their hard work. I’ll admit I tend to have a hard time staying on topic especially since every possible topic has been discussed ad nauseum already. But I don’t think coming on here and personally calling out individuals is what they had in mind either.
So JohnSS how you been doing lately? Did you hear the Canes suck. It’s cloudy here today where I live, and it’s getting ready to rain. My front yard is full of leaves but my rake broke. My jeep is also dirty but why wash it if it’s going to rain. I did winterize my boat earlier and now it’s warm out, go figure. Actually maybe I should let all the leaves fall and then rake only once. The pool cover is full of pine straw already now its going to fill up with rain, that just makes alot of work for me. Did you know Bubba goes by Bob now? I guess not. There sure are alot of squirrels out today maybe they’re collecting acorns for the winter. The deer have been eating my bushes again and there is a bear that takes my trash can out into the woods every other night. Then I have to clean the woods from whats left over. Well, talk to ya later.
Rough time for everyone
So, perhaps JohnSS has moved out of “Denial” and into the “Anger” stage…?
So I'm guessing this would be "bottom"?
by hockeymomof2 on Nov 10, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
JOHN SS
I don’t remember anyone telling you that you HAD to read ALL the comments, everyone is free to post here just as you are free to disregard what is posted. The Caniac nation is going through a rough time right now and some of us use this as “therapy”, you know hockey fans aren’t like other fans and no one understands better what we are going through than each other. So what if there is a little small talk? The human interaction is one of the best parts of this blog for me, if I just wanted news I would go elsewhere. Canes Country gives us a little bit of everything, and I am thankful for Bob, Cory and Hockeymom for all the hard work they put into this site. I apologize if we sometimes get “off topic” but thats usually like Caniacgirl said, after we have already beat the dead horse.
Just try to focus on complete sentences and forming full paragraphs :)
by hockeythoughts on Nov 10, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions
Back from vacation and trying to get caught up.
Appreciate the most recent comments here and I see both sides of the debate. We are not very strict on the blog about keeping to the topic and there has been very little moderation on the site since it’s inception. But we don’t want some folk to skip the comments, thinking they are not pertinent. I enjoy reading other people’s opinions in comments, and the more that people leave their opinions, the better the blog is.
Sometimes, there is even breaking news put forth in the comments and we don’t want people to miss that, or not post that info.
We will try to figure out a way so that some can continue to vent, others can stay on topic, and everyone is happy.
Finally, let me thank everyone for your patronage and loyalty. Our site hits and numbers continue to grow and grow, which is amazing considering we are blogging about a last place team.
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