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McKenzie Report: Michael Leighton put on Waivers

The Carolina Hurricanes placed Michael Leighton on waivers today.  (photo by LTD)

The Carolina Hurricanes placed Michael Leighton on waivers today. (photo by LTD)

In a move that did not surprise many here at Canes Country, according to Bob McKenzie of TSN, the Carolina Hurricanes placed Michael Leighton on waivers today.  Apparently, the team didn't mind spending the extra money to keep the goalie with the better stats.  Manny Legace leads the team with three wins and has been a real battler so far this season.  When asked in a previous article, 76% of you voted to keep Legace in the fold.

Leighton's future is still up in the air as he could be picked up by another team, reassigned to Albany, loaned out to another franchise in need of goaltending, or kept.

Legace is slated to start the game in Pittsburgh tonight as well. 

We will have the game day preview posted shortly.

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Feel for the guy, seems like a really nice person, but this is the right move.

by Iggy Reilly on Dec 7, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

I hate for this to happen to him, but it’s hard to argue with better stats. My heart tells me to keep him here in Raleigh, but my head says he is the odd man out. Hopefully he finds a team that will give him a shot.

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

Ditto to the comments above

by abramsdoug on Dec 7, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Not for long

I am pretty sure he will be claimed by my wife sometime this afternoon

by TOS on Dec 7, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

This made me chuckle.

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

not if my woman gets to him first… I’m sure he has plenty that are willing to console him

by JBK on Dec 7, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Who needs a goalie? Toronto? Philly?

by hotchipsnsalsa on Dec 7, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

I’d say no to Philly (Boucher is decent). On top of Toronto, Dallas, Calgary and the Rangers (who just sent down Valiquette and brought up their AHL guy, Chad Johnson) all have the biggest question marks, IMO. Thing is, is Leighton — who couldn’t win the job on the team with the NHL’s worst record — an upgrade for any of those teams?

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking it would be for Toronto since the Monster is diagnosed with heart problems and Leighton may be an insurance policy. Anyway I hope he lands some place because I think he is a good #2, but I also think he needed more playing time to keep going.

by hotchipsnsalsa on Dec 7, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

truthfully: probally yes
in the minds of those teams: NO

by chrisj on Dec 7, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That sucks

That’s all I’m going to say

When all else fails, read the instruction manual.

by lcd2you on Dec 7, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

way to break all our hearts with that EMO head shot of leighton.
im sad..

by chrisj on Dec 7, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

i feel like if you had put the pic of him out of the crease from a couple days ago for that GA, or any one of the times he was way out of position during a shoot out, wed have less sadness in these comments….who knows..

by chrisj on Dec 7, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

+2

When all else fails, read the instruction manual.

by lcd2you on Dec 7, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Leighton’s biggest fault in my eyes. When he messes up, he leaves little doubt as to whether it was a softie or not.

Guy screws up big.

by Iggy Reilly on Dec 7, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The only thing worse than that picture would have been one of him tossing pucks to the little kids after warm-ups.

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop it!!! I feel bad for Leighton and his family. He was a kid-friendly, all around nice guy. But when it comes to the game of hockey, I think they made the right decision keeping Manny.

Live & Learn

by Cathye on Dec 7, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear ya’. My head and my heart are polar opposites on this one. If he had been a jerk (cough Crumbs cough) it would have been easier for me to pick a side on this one.

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

No, it’s the picture from the Caniac Carnival where he gave his stick to a little girl (who’s a friend of mine by the way, doubly painful),

SISU

by LTD on Dec 7, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

You just twisted the knife a little there LTD.

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya’ll are going to make me cry.

Live & Learn

by Cathye on Dec 7, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

And I didn’t even post the one of the little girl’s expression as she stares as the stick as if it’s made of gold. He really is a class act.

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

*stares at the stick

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe his career has not gone as planned, but he has earned 1.2 million the past two years. He still gets paid this contract no matter where he ends up. So things could be worse.

He needs a chance to play so he can earn another contract for next year. Hard to do that siting on the bench here.

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by Bob Wage on Dec 7, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but IMO he wasn’t really given a chance to do that here for a variety of reasons. He’s now suffering the consequences of something that wasn’t entirely his doing.

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I know he didn’t play a lot, but such is the life of a backup. IMO, he didn’t cut it when in there. Also, I’m sure Barrasso weighed in on whether he could shoulder the No. 1 when Cam went down.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d argue that it’s hard to cut it when you hardly get anytime time to play. A spot start here and there makes it really hard to judge whether a goalie is any good, especially considering the way things have gone this season (i.e. the beyond poor team in front of him).

I know that your backup goalie needs to do well when called upon (and I don’t think he was atrocious at any point), but between signing Legace right away and his injury, it’s hard to say that he ever really had a full hand to play with.

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

They see these guys every day in practice, too. There was always a lack of confidence in Leighton, regardless of the coach, and I’m sure it wasn’t just “Cam’s got a hot hand.” Maybe he’s just not the type that’s cut out to be a backup. A guy like Hedberg plays the same whether it’s back-to-backs or four weeks btwn. starts.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough. But it’s a vicious cycle when it comes to confidence. You can’t earn confidence unless you are given a real chance (both games and in practice). You won’t get a chance unless you have their confidence. I’m not blaming anyone specifically, just saying he got kind of a raw deal all the way around.

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 for the Barrasso comment. This wasn’t just bigbad Mo’s doing. The guy never impressed anybody as a NHL hockey goalie.

by drifterscape on Dec 7, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He is not gone yet. And the odds are no one will pick him up, i.e. see status of Yelle and Conboy.

by hotchipsnsalsa on Dec 7, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel bad for Leights, but what can you do when you get a bad injury and then outplayed? Sorry Leights, we all loved ya for trying in each game.

So does this mean that Wardo is back? Who is number two here?

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by Ivan459 on Dec 7, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think Cam’s been officially activated off IR yet has he?

Leighton is still eligible to be in the lineup tonight, I think they have to wait for him to clear waivers before they can assign him to Albany, so you waive him today, and then assign him to Albany assuming he clears waivers and re-activate Cam before Wednesday night’s game (assuming Cam’s ready which it sounds like he is).

At least that’s how I think it’s supposed to work, someone please correct it I’m wrong.

SISU

by LTD on Dec 7, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

You are correct. Leighton will still be on the bench tonight., This is just stage one of a multi-stage process.

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by Bob Wage on Dec 7, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

What part do you find intereting? I find it interesting that Jerome Samson is listed as a 2-4mil guy!

by TylerA7707 on Dec 7, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Perhaps that Corvo is smiling more than Ruutu?

Leighton sounds like a great guy, hate to see that his NHL career hasn’t gone the way he’d probably want it to.

Hopefully he will be picked up and given the opportunity to play! I suspect even if it’s at the AHL level he would rather be playing than bench warming most nights.

by Cyn4Canes on Dec 7, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

I hope things work out for him

At times he has flashes of brilliance, I can only home some team lets him start enough games in a row that he can find his stride and get over some of his occasional lapses in judgement.

by Raccoon Fink on Dec 7, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

makes sense, no official decision yet

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by Bob Wage on Dec 7, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Another bad decision made.

Leighton is far better than Manny. Not sure why Manny is so well like by everyone, I feel he has been awful. He has let in 3 or 4 plus goals a game.

Then again I’m not the coach, if I was we’d be in the playoffs this year. I’m hoping there are doing this because they know another team wants him to free up some money. Other than that its just stupid and goes along with everything else.

A TRUE CANIAC......YES I AM........

by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

3+ goals a game is not just a function of Manny, but the D in front of him. I think most of us who like Manny more than Leighton are basing it on watching his play directly, and not the # of goals let through.

by Raccoon Fink on Dec 7, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats the same excuse Cams fans use. So any time a goalie sucks he can just say “hey that D in front of me can’t do there job”. O.K. I get it now.

A TRUE CANIAC......YES I AM........

by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I’m not watching fantasy hockey, I’m watching actual hockey, so all I can say is my impression of seeing them play (which I’ve done multiple games, in person). Not to say stats are useless, but not usually the whole picture.

by Raccoon Fink on Dec 7, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Whats to like??
  1. Goalie……………….. GPI .. GS. Min.. GAA… W.. L .. OT.. SO ..SA .GA .Sv% . G .A . PIM
    34 Manny Legace…… 9 …..8 …525.. 3.20… 3 …4…. 2…. 0… 263.. 28 ..894.. 0 ..0 …0

A TRUE CANIAC......YES I AM........

by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Goalie……………….. GPI .. GS. Min.. GAA… W.. L .. OT.. SO ..SA .GA .Sv% . G .A . PIM
      34 Manny Legace…… 9 …..8 …525.. 3.20… 3 …4…. 2…. 0… 263.. 28 ..894.. 0 ..0 …0

by Iggy Reilly on Dec 7, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Right...?

And since my point was that his stats are not necessarily indicative of how I think his play looks, I don’t see how that makes a difference…

A lot of things went wrong in the games Manny’s played so far besides goaltending (and the games Leighton’s played too for that matter), so those stats are shared by the team’s defensive breakdowns. Also, Manny was really loose his first few games, and he let through stuff that he now wouldn’t since he’s gotten back up to his NHL stride, so that will skew the stats as well.

by Raccoon Fink on Dec 7, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I do like he’s post game interviews, but not he’s play. Thats all I can give ya at this point.

A TRUE CANIAC......YES I AM........

by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

he’s his

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by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Every one of Leighton’s stats is worse. You’re not making an argument (and there is an argument to be made both ways) that’s working.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Leighton gave up at least three in every full game this season, too.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, but Leights was supposed to be our #1 and Manny #2 while Cam was out. Because Leights was injuried or sick didn’t get to prove himself AGAIN. IMO Leighton is the better goalie out of the two.

A TRUE CANIAC......YES I AM........

by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

If Leighton was going to be the definitive No. 1, they: 1) would’ve just had Peters back him up; 2) not started Manny right after they signed him.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

They shouldn’t have picked Manny up in the first place. They just spent more money for nothing. We could’ve played Leights and just brought Peters up.

A TRUE CANIAC......YES I AM........

by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Legace is costing the same as what Peters would’ve cost. Both make $500K at the NHL level.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You could argue, for sure, that Leighton getting sent to the AHL (if that happens) and still getting paid $600K is a waste of $$$. But Legace has gotten the teams wins when Leighton hasn’t.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I would argue and say our offense picking up has won those games not the goaltending.

A TRUE CANIAC......YES I AM........

by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

So when the goalie gives up goals, the goalie is the reason the team lost. When the team scores goals, the goalie has nothing to do with it.

Got it.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Only if you can score two goals for every one the goalie lets in. Then you are correct the goalie is useless.

A TRUE CANIAC......YES I AM........

by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

So why waste another $500?

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by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not being wasted … Peters is on a two-way deal and doesn’t make that much in the AHL ($60,000)

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

So if Peters was brought up and played x amount of games they would’ve had to pay him $500?

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by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe that salary is paid on a per game basis, essentially.

so 500k/82 every game at the NHL level

by Iggy Reilly on Dec 7, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not by games, but by days. That’s why you see cap-strapped teams ship guys back and forth on off days.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

They make exactly the same in the NHL: prorated $500K.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha

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by canescup on Dec 7, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?? Seems like I remember JR saying when they first signed Legace that they were sharing the role until one of them really stood out. Unfortunately Leighton was injured and didn’t really get a chance to shine.

by Cyn4Canes on Dec 7, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, Manny has 10 times (literally: 180-18) the career wins of Leighton.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

He’s also been around a lot longer and had a very good Detroit team playing in front of him for some of those.

I’m not saying it’s not the smarter decision to go with Manny, but I understand how people could argue otherwise.

by caniacgirl on Dec 7, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree there’s an argument to be made for both.

by Cory Lavalette on Dec 7, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Michael Leighton is 28 guys, this isn’t some young kid waiting to finally get his shot. This decision wasn’t going to be the most important one facing this franchise. Hopefully one of our young guys is taking over for Legace before too long (seasons, not weeks.)

by Iggy Reilly on Dec 7, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

To expand on that, he obviously wasn’t going to get a shot here. He had been with the franchise for a little while and he clearly isn’t in any long term plans. This will be better for him as well hopefully.

by Iggy Reilly on Dec 7, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

No brainer move. although it sounds like no team was interested in a trade for him. Leighton is UFA. next year and probably would’ve bolted anyway.

by Franklnc on Dec 7, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

Forslund was just on the Fan with DG, Roddy to be a healthy scratch tonight.

"He has all the virtues I dislike, and none of the vices I admire." -Sir Winston Churchill

by Swenksta on Dec 7, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

I think it just goes to show that the org. just had something aginst the guy, or just zero confidence.

A

The Canes are like a box of expired chocolates......

by Paladin6 on Dec 7, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

Zero confidence isn’t just given It’s earned.

by drifterscape on Dec 7, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's a bit of a stunner from October 08:

Funny to see how much perceptions change. This was 14 months ago. Only.
:
Game Preview Hurricanes at Penguins, Oct 23, 2008

Here was Bubba’s description of Laviolette’s impending goalie decision:

As I mentioned in a previous article, this could be a tough call for the head coach. Do you ride the hot goalie, or do you return to your number one and give him some confidence? If you go strictly by the stats so far this year, it’s a no-brainer.
Leighton – record 2-0-0 – GAA 1.92 – SV% .935
Ward – record 1-1-1 – GAA 3.30 – SV% .891

Note exactly who was considered the hot goalie (Leighton) and who needed confidence (Ward). Bubba called it a no-brainer. Only 14 months ago, Leighton was the Canes’ go-to guy in goal.

And Patrick Eaves played top line wing with Staal and Samsonov too. Just too weird.

Here was question #1 from Bubba’s queries the day before:

1. Who will start in goal? Michael Leighton has certainly earned another start with his solid performance on Sunday night, but if Cam Ward is still officially the number one guy, do you go back to him so not to ruin his confidence this early in the season?

(My guess is that Leighton earned the start and will get the nod)

Hurricanes Hockey:
Never for the faint of heart.
Nor for the weak of stomach.

by hockeymomof2 on Dec 7, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

  It’s the strangest thing of all to me about the NHL. Players can go from hero to zero in a nanosecond. Eaves is a great example. Coming out of college, he was the real deal. His father was a coach. He went to a hockey prep school. He was a first round draft choice. Somehow he went from a 20 goal scorer to a 2 to 8 goal scorer.

  As for Leighton, he had moments of brilliance and then other less desirable moments. Maybe a change of scenery and a coach who thinks he hung the moon is all it will take. He has plenty of athletic ability and size. I think he is battling the mental side of being an NHL goalie.

by abramsdoug on Dec 7, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

wow, some old research there

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by Bob Wage on Dec 7, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough for Leights, but I think we’d all agree there’s zero chance the Canes resign him in the offseason. Like the rest of you, I have nothing against him and hope he gets a shot somewhere else. For now, Lil Manny is outplaying him and has earned the right to start and be #2 when Cam gets back.

by Gillimus on Dec 7, 2009 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

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