Will Brodeur Theatrics Affect Future of Series?
by Bob Wage on Apr 22, 2009 3:16 PM EDT
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Vegas odds are already set at 2-1 that the next time a Carolina Hurricane skates anywhere near the crease during game five in New Jersey on Thursday night, Martin Brodeur will flop like a carp on the ice and goalie interference will be called.
After last night's stick throwing temper tantrum caught the attention of the hockey world, as well as the NHL league office, everyone is now well aware of Brodeur's dilemma, as well as his cause. He feels like the Hurricanes are crowding him and he wants more room. His "show" last night had very little to do with the one single play by Jussi Jokinen, and much more to do with the Hurricanes offensive philosophy. The team said after game three that they would have to create more traffic in front of Brodeur and that's exactly what they did. Brodeur does not like it, so this is his counter-move.
If the refs start calling more goalie interference penalties, you can give the goalie an Academy Award.
One might ask, if Brodeur was truly incensed about an infraction on the play, why did he wait until after the goal review to throw his tantrum? Why not complain to one of the refs immediately after the play? Instead, he waited until after the delay. (perhaps planning the whole move in the process?)
This is not the first time the goalie has met this kind of controversy. Just last year the league had to create a new rule when Sean Avery was facing Brodeur in front of the crease in order to block his view and antagonize him. The majority of us sided with the goalie at the time because the move by the New Yorker was so outrageous. But maybe there was a method to Avery's madness? Perhaps he felt that he had to face Brodeur so that the goalie would not bump him from behind and claim there was interference? Maybe he was tired of getting slashed in the back of the legs with his back turned?
If you are a Caniac there is one good thing about the hoopla. Brodeur might be more worried about what the refs are doing, than what the Canes are. Perhaps Carolina has gotten into the future Hall of Famer's head? That worked pretty well for the Rangers last year.
Either way, place your bets on that interference call for Thursday night, because you know it's coming.
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I've got a bad feeling about this...
We had already gone from the least penalized team in the regular season to one of the most before his hissy fit. I hate to think of what the league will do to us now.
Ruutu and Walker took numerous cheap shots last night. Staal and Cole get mugged everytime they go to the net Brodeur is swinging his stick at everything that moves and they’re the ones complaining about the officiating???
Still not a crook!
its pretty much a guarantee that if Brodeur gets bumped in the crease, there is going to be a penalty now. the league allows players like Brodeur to do and get what they want.
great article, nicely done
get in his head, ask about the alimony
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 22, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
It is odd that THEY would be the ones complaining about the way the games are being called… They get to ride in on anyone and everyone wearing a hurricane logo…. The non-calls are fine as long as they go both ways.
But the icing on the cake (Brodeur LOVES cake) is that the one he is making a big deal about WAS NOT EVEN A PENALTY!!!! And then he was wining to the cameras about how our guys are rushing the net….
never mind he gets to swat at EVERYONE!!!
Maybe Brodeur is trying to keep his crybaby points up there along with Cindy Crysby!!!
And where is the suspension for the intentional elbow to Ruutus skull? Only a 2 minute penalty for THAT? …….Oh well…. our guys don’t cry about things they can’t control…. they just play hockey and leave the head games to big daddy and the gang…..
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Apr 22, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
I go back to the Avery call and I think the rule is assinine. If 1 of the 5 men does jumping jacks in front of you so be it. I think Avery, while an asshole, did a good job there. The knob polishers bent over and gave Marty a reach around because he’s a pussy like Roy was. Must be something about being an actor and a great goalie. If the calls get outrageous, pull Ward send in Conboy to pound the ever loving shit out of maryty and see if we can get back to hockey rather than marty’s legacy. They would have no answer to a move like that and with the injury list they have, we are far, far deeper. Screw the ref’s, screw Marty, time to kick ass and win games, even if you have to do jumping jacks..
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Could be a positive
If the rest of the Devils come out angry, they might come out too angry and start racking up minutes in the box. Would be a great time for Carolina to get their power play back on track.
I’m more worried about someone getting hurt. It’s not like that hasn’t been their calling card in the past.
well
I see by the blogs that reality isn’t a big thing in carolina…brodeur was interfered with and it wasnt a goal…but you paid off the refs and got the split…the next 2 games will show who is the real deal…I expect to see alot of whining from carolina fans over the next week…it was a good series uo ’til you made the devils mad…now comes the blowouts….mark my words
by been there, hoisted that!! on Apr 22, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Who’s got an issue in reality, Jersey has a pussy for a goalie and the review was conclusive, go get back on your meds and sit back and see who the real deal is. It ain’t some jersey pukes. As for blow outs, try and remember ’06, my that was a sweet ass kicking of devil butt if ever there was one..
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if you want a suspension for ruutuu (or however you spell it)…keep in mind he did the same thing later in the game and didnt even get a penalty…so i guess it should be suspension for suspension……
by been there, hoisted that!! on Apr 22, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Ruutu was elbowed in the head by one of the New Jersey players. All of the hits he made on the other teams players were clean and legal…..
The game winning goal was good. The only folks who don’t believe so are those in New Jersey. Any news outlet (outside of Jersey) who covers hockey has said the same thing…. even the league “war room” said it was a good goal w/ no interference…. Brodeur initiated the contact and even tried to embellish it…..
I can understand why you are so bitter….. it has nothing to do w/ hockey at all…. I’ve been to new jersey and understand that it is a very depressing waste land……a dump in-fact….. You guys desperately need your team to advance so that there will at least be something good in New Jersey for a while longer…..
even more sad is…. The Devils are NOT even New Jerseys favorite hockey team!!!! Anyone in NJ say “Go Rangers” ???? Thought so….. I guess the Devils will always take the fans that aren’t good enough for the Flyers….
Happy Trails!
-M.
PS: Tell Brodeur that no matter how hard he tries…. Crosby is STILL the biggest cry baby in the league….
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Apr 22, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
at least send a sober, literate Jersey fan over here to bitch…wait, do you guys even have those??
Still not a crook!
All the literate folks live in Delaware…. New Jersey is where Philly sends it’s trash.
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Apr 23, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
No Stevens, just memories....................................
I guess the Devils are trying to get Stevens back for game 5? 552+ wins do NOT make you untouchable! As for the devils fans coming here……well just remember you need to behave and we will do the same….if not do not complain when ya have to eat the crow we will have BBQ’d for ya!
The Devils don’t need Scott Stevens to win a battle of physical supremacy over the Hurricanes – they did that well enough on their own in the first three games of the series and for the majority of the third period on Tuesday night. If Brian Gionta, a guy who is 5’7" when standing on a phone book, can skate right up to Rod Brind’Amour, Carolina’s captain and most grizzled veteran, and strip him of the puck in a battle along the boards to set up a teammate for a goal, I don’t think the rest of the Devils are worried that the ’Canes are tougher than they are. But you still might want to tell Ron Francis to keep his head up – Scott Stevens may not be on the ice, but he most likely will be in the building, watching the game. I woud hate for Francis to look up and unexpectedly catch sight of him. He might go into post-traumatic stress induced flashbacks – that is, if he can even remember what happened. Stevens hit him pretty hard, after all.
I’m sure Ron Francis has better things to worry about than Scott Stevens.
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Apr 23, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure Ronnie retired on his own terms, though. Wasn’t it Stevens who was done b/c of post-concussion syndrome?
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by Cory Lavalette on Apr 23, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Technically, no. He missed the latter half of the ‘03-’04 season due to post-concussion syndrome (most likely a result of a Pavel Kubina slap shot he took to the ear against Tampa Bay during the second round of the ‘03 playoffs that he probably aggravated by returning and playing two more seven game rounds before clinching the Cup) but he recovered and would have played in the ’04-’05 season had it not been for the lockout. He decided to officially retire before the start of the ‘05-’06 season.
3 CUPS! 12 straight years in playoffs
I think you canes fans forgot bout the 3rd goal where he was bumped all the way into his net (for which it should of not been a goal) i’m sure marty wanted to bitch bout that but he kept playin till the 4th goal where he DIDDD get bumped but legal play he got pissed after he feels TWO blown calls… yes i;m a DIE HARD devils fan but i think the 3rd goal should of not been a goal and the game should of went into overtime with the (4th) goal
its ok tho cause we switch wins and the devils have home ice haha broudeur is a class act goalie and the best to ever play the game of course no canes fan is gon agree when were playin them in the playoffs
theres no other team to make the playoffs 12 STRAIGHTTTT years if we dont win it this year we’ll be back the next year and the next and prolly the next 5 years after that EVEN with Clemm in net for us
too bad the canes cant even make the playoffs the year AFTER they win the cup hahaha good luck next time my friends we WILLLL take this to game 7 and we WILLLL win game 7 you have to remember we ARE the NEW JERSEY DEVILS
by Njdevilstothecup3011 on Apr 23, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
On the third goal it was your own defensive player that bumped into Fatty Brodeur….
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Apr 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we should all road trip up to Jersey for Game 7. I’m sure there will be plenty of seats available.
of course you are right...
plenty of seats for game 7 because jersey will shut you down and the series will be over in 6
by been there, hoisted that!! on Apr 23, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
1) Clemmensen will be gone this season to start elsewhere.
2) Didn’t the Bills go to the Super Bowl four straight years? How are they remembered?
It’s about winning it all, not prolonged better-than-averageness. Devils haven’t been the same since they let Stevens, Nieds and Rafalski all go … Lou’s ego’s too big to pay anymore but Marty. He thinks he can with with anyone in front of No. 30, and he can’t.
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by Cory Lavalette on Apr 23, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
pathetic
Wow.. funny how you call Marty a whiner after one incident.. mind you his first career outburst..and you know what I probably would have been just as pissed and did the same thing. You guys are just sour because we were able to come back after you had the 3-0 lead…if we did this to your goaltender or if it happened to any other team the fans would react the same way. Marty is the nicest most down to earth guy I have ever met- if you want to talk whiners in the league stick to Crosby.. Most of you who are commenting need to grow up…and why would he need to be fined.. that is hysterical.. hockey allows grown men to FIGHT.. but someone cant show their anger?! too funny! I cant even believe I wasted my time reading this article written by a moron..and the comments which are even worse.
by michaelsmommy23 on Apr 23, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions
I think we covered this.
The league mandates a fine against any player who openly criticizes the officials in the press or media before or after a game…. Brodeur clearly did this after game 4. And he was not fined.
We really don’t care that you guys came back from 3-0 because you COULDN’T FINISH!!!
I’m sure Marty is very down to earth when you meet him at the buffet……
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Apr 23, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
wow you totally got me on that one.. that was a good comeback..
by michaelsmommy23 on Apr 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
When the Series is over I’ll have just as much respect for the Devils and their fans as I did before the series started….. Which is A LOT (ask anyone who knows me)
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Apr 23, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think both teams are playing great hockey.. its a good match up.. it always is with the Canes and Devils.. I think the Devils arent playing as tough as they could be… it’ll be a good game to watch tonight…of course we both want our own teams to win.. but only one can..
by michaelsmommy23 on Apr 23, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
shrug didn’t he do the same concerning Avery last year?
As for the fining … I don’t care either way if it happens, b/c I don’t see the money. That being said, there’s a precedent of players and coaches being fined for criticizing the officials and his comments shouldn’t go unpunished, based on that precedent. A quick Google on the topic shows a couple results:
KEENAN FINED: Florida Panthers Coach Mike Keenan was fined $5,000 by the National Hockey League yesterday for criticizing on-ice officials.
Keenan got in trouble after an overtime loss against the Atlanta Thrashers on Tuesday night. Keenan was quoted as saying that the game was finished by the official, unfortunately, referring to a holding penalty in overtime against the Panthers’ Ivan Majesky. Keenan added, The thing that is almost more aggravating than that call was the noncall of the direct knee on Olli Jokinen. (AP)
or …
The NHL fined a pair of head coaches on Saturday for their criticism of officials. Edmonton’s Craig MacTavish and Atlanta’s Bob Hartley were each fined $10,000 for their remarks after their teams’ respective games on Friday.
MacTavish was upset that the officials overturned a potential game-tying goal at the end of regulation in the Oilers’ 3-2 setback. Referee Mike McGeough blew the whistle just prior to the goal, convinced he saw a hand pass.
MacTavish called the ruling ‘ridiculous’ and said that McGeough, who later acknowledged his mistake, should be suspended.
NJ fans have been quick to quote the rules lately … here’s a rule to brush up on:
32.9 Reports – The Referee shall report to the Commissioner promptly and in detail the circumstances surrounding the following:
(i) The assessment of misconduct penalties for abuse of officials;
(ii) The assessment of game misconduct penalties;
(iii) The assessment of match penalties;
(iv) The assessment of an instigator penalty;
(v) Any time a goalkeeper leaves his crease during an altercation;
(vi) Any time a stick or other object is thrown outside the playing area;
(vii) Any time a player, goalkeeper or non-playing Club personnel are involved in an altercation with a spectator;
(viii) Any unusual occurrence that takes place on or off the ice, before, during or after the game.
The NHL made the lead of SportsCenter … so that proves it was an unusual occurence.
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by Cory Lavalette on Apr 23, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
and as stated in the article, Nik Antropov was suspended for three games for “tossing his stick” at an official. How close it actually came to the official is debatable, but Marty threw his stick a lot harder than Antropov did. Once it hits the boards, who knows where it is going?
The big difference is that at the time Antropov received two game misconducts for his action and of course nothing happened to Marty. But to state that no one ever got suspended for throwing a stick, is wrong.
Do I think he should have been suspended? No. Fined? maybe
It would be interesting to see what would happen if one of the rank and file Canes did the exact same thing. If Ryan Bayda throws a tantrum like that at the end of a game, in my opinion it’s a guaranteed suspension.
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HA! I read that and said “I hope Bayda doesn’t blow a gasket…”
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Apr 23, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, did a bunch of you guys go stir things up on the Devil’s blog?
WTF is up with all these guys trying to start something?
much as it pains me to say this i have to agree with you canes fans i"m surprised the league didn’t fine marty. if not for throwing the stick then for his coments. that being said i think the call was questionable and could have easily been called the other way. then it would be you guys who were up in arms but it wasn’t so its time to move on. its been a great series so far and i look forward to another exciting game tonight.
I personally think the rule on “incidental contact” should be enforced even less than they already are.
Think about it…. The most heavily armored guy on the ice is the only guy on a team who is allowed to go anywhere on the ice without getting pounded!!!!
I agree he should be protected in the crease…. but outside of the crease… I don’t care if it’s Brodeur or Ward or whoever…. outside the crease SHOULD be fair game.
But the rules do allow “incidental contact.”
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Apr 23, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
marty rules
cam grew up wanting to be like marty
and you carolina losers keep talking
that state you live in is a joke and full of financial and insurance greedy mustards lined up for bail out
on the other hand jersey is the pharm capital of the world and you will need plenty of treating that depression when marty kicks your …
Hey guys, look! The one person on the planet who would rather live in Jersey!
by Iggy Reilly on Apr 24, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
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