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Paul Maurice had a thought provoking interview yesterday with the press before the team left for Boston.  He touched a little bit on several subjects, including the past series with Jersey and the future series with Boston.  He even reminisced about the old days and compared those times to the present.

The coach was asked about the first round playoff series with Boston 10 years ago, and he mentioned how Marty Gelinas missed a wide open net during a crucial situation with the game on the line.  The teams played on until double overtime and Anson Carter ended up winning it for the Bruins.  Boston went on to win the series in six games but Maurice still believes to this day that the Canes would have won it if Ron Francis didn't get hurt.

Regardless, Maurice said that the team's expectations were much different back then than they are now.  If a team does not "expect to win", they probably will not.  There are a lot of Stanley Cup winners in this group now that expect to win and their positive mindsets are contagious.

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Chad LaRose confirmed this during an interview on 850 The Buzz Thursday morning.  When asked if he started to think, "oh no, looks like we are going to lose" when the clock got down to a couple of minutes left in game seven at New Jersey, he replied that the thought never entered his mind. 

"We were chattering on the bench, saying ok boys, all it takes is one.  Who is going to get it boys?"

Those are the expectations of winning that the coach was alluding to and that the Hurricanes have right now.  Do not underestimate the affect that this type of attitude can have on a team.  Many of these players have won it all and it's still fresh in their memories.  They know what it takes, they know the mindset that it requires, and they don't care if they are underdogs in this series or not.

Maurice was also asked about the fanbase and how much that had changed over the years.

When we first got down here there was some of "who are these guys?" and we were a little bit of outsiders, and people wondered how does this fit with what else is going on here?  And the opposite is true now.  This is their team. This is the fans' team. The fact of the matter is, it's going to be here for a long time.  Coaches are going to pass through, players are going to pass through, and I think it's stopped being we are the Carolina Hurricanes, to being their team, and we are just passing through...... 

Hopefully, some of us are going to be around a long time and several players live here now, but it's stopped from being something that we brought down, to being their team now.  We're just caretakers.

Very profound. 

Speaking of fanbases, once again Caniacs are taking it on the chin as the media circus ramps up for this series.  If you listen to some of the pundits, media outlets, and "comedians" from the Northeast, hockey fans are few and far between down here.  Everyone loves NASCAR and basketball, and of course there is a plethora of insults and negative perspectives in general about the South being thrown around, even on NHL.com.  

Been there and done that, right fans?

We might ask our friends to the North to stick to the topic of hockey, but they don't want to do that.  Wonder why?  Because even though they are an Original 6 team with a storied past, they really don't have much recent success to talk about.

While the Hurricanes have been to the Stanley Cup Finals twice in the past seven years, and won the Cup just three years ago, the only playoff series that the Bruins have been able to win during the same time frame was the most recent one last week against the Habs.  And you wonder why they prefer to talk trash?

The last time the Bruins won the Cup was in 1972.  The last time they were in the finals was back in 1990.  (They lost to the Oilers).  Before beating up on the lowly Habs last week, they hadn't won a playoff series in a decade. 

  • 2008 Lost to Montreal first round
  • 2004 Lost to Montreal first round
  • 2003 Lost to New Jersey first round
  • 2002 Lost to Montreal first round

In 2002, they had finished at the top of the Eastern Conference, only to get bounced by the number eight seed, Habs.  Before this year, the last time they advanced to the second round was in 1999, when they defeated the Canes, (who lost their best player to injury).  But they ended up losing to the Sabres in the very next round. 

Not very impressive.

The Hurricanes have a bunch of Cup winners and a Conn Smythe winner on their side, while, with the exception of Mark Recchi and Aaron Ward, (who both had their most recent success in Carolina), and Stephane Yelle and Shawn Thornton, the current Bruins have yet to accomplish anything. nada

As well as the Bruins have played this year, and they have been awesome for the most part, they have yet to prove that they can win consistently in the playoffs. 

We will see what happens this series.

I will have the game one preview up around lunchtime.

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It’s funny how many default to the NASCAR jokes when trying to pick on the Hurricanes’ fan base. Doubt those folks even know the difference between Raleigh & Charlotte.

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by wuffy on May 1, 2009 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

hey wuf, nice job on the Devils eulogy over at Puck Daddy. You should take over for “Two Line Pass” and have a weekly entry there.

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by Bob Wage on May 1, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

i live in nc and i hate nascar..
just sayin,
i dont even like college basketball much.
id rather watch nba.

but first and foremost, hockey
my dish package is based solely on watching hockey.

just sayin.

by chrisj on May 1, 2009 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I hear ya, the only difference is

I don’t like bball at all.

Pro Football, yeah it’s ok, but HOCKEY is first and foremost in my house.

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by lcd2you on May 1, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Nascar, so what? What the hell does that have to do with this series? Look at number our people from up North moving to our fair state. The ones talking trash are just the ones not smart enough to get out of their cold, depressing cities yet.

Hockey game Friday night, Nascar race Saturday night, Hockey game Sunday. Should be a good weekend!

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by TrickyD26 on May 1, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Ugh…. the same old tired NASCAR jokes have made it out again…..

I’m really ready for these so-called hockey people get get a grip…. get over it…. and come up w/ something better already!!!!

Who’s tailgating next week???? Too bad they don’t have nice weather (or safe parking lots) in Boston….

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 1, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m there for game four! Even though I had to sell one of my kids to buy the tickets. I guess I could’ve just took out a small loan, oh well the house isn’t as loud.

by canescup on May 1, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh-oh. Things are bad when you have to sell the kids huh?

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by Ivan459 on May 1, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not always.....

my three are teenage girls.

Selling them to some sheik in Dubai, UAE, has proved very lucrative. jk

OBTW, does anyone do “Cool Bars”?

What about tailgates?

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by lcd2you on May 2, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’d think that all these fans from everywhere else would at least acknowledge Hurricanes fans’ enthusiasm over the other teams fans. Understandably, the Florida Panthers or the Thrashers are targets but come on. Though i’m a Steelers lifer, I get tickets to the Panthers games through my company and those “fans” don’t have $h!t on RBCers. You can notice it even on tv. I watched the games on tv with my dad and he said during game 7 that the Devils fans cheering and level of noise was a joke compared to the Canes fans in game 6. Nascar? Hah! We should start cracking jokes about gangsters and car jackings and what not.

And speaking of the Steelers, The last Superbowl they won before this one the Canes Took the cup a few months later. Lets keep that trend going.

by Hanrahanfan on May 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

1) Maurice seems to be saying all the right things. Despite the mild advantage on paper for the Bruins, the Canes do have momentum/built up confidence of having beaten a better opponent in the first round than the Bruins(who essentially had a first round bye)
2) Could forsee a situation where the B’s could get flustered if the canes come out flying/take an early series lead/steal home ice

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by Fauxrumors on May 1, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice article Bubba. You’d think we would all be used to the same tired jokes about hockey in the South.

You don’t have to dislike college bball to prove your allegiances guys! Maybe I like both because I miraculously grew up a hockey fan in the South because my parents let me play the sport. I was a Habs/Nucks fan growing up (Patrick Roy, Pavel Bure played goalie/left wing), but now I am a die hard Caniac ever since I had a local team to cheer for. I’m guessing the non-bbal fans are transplants. Which is fine, nothing wrong with that. We’re glad to have you in this great state.

I would like to officially declare that I was wrong about bringing Maurice back. The guy is a class act and I’m glad he is behind the bench right now.

by Iggy Reilly on May 1, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

with the exception of Mark Recchi and Aaron Ward, (who both had their most recent success in Carolina)

Stephane Yelle has won 2 Cups
Shawn Thornton won the Cup with the Ducks

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 1, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks and corrected. Forgot about Thornton.

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by Bob Wage on May 1, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

What a series!

This should be good. I’ve got an affinity for the Bruins because they eliminated the dirty Habs, but I’ve been a closet Caneiac (and Whale… -iac) for years. Wardo’s going to be huge, but I think Cole and Ruutu need to step it up.

Because I have them in the pool… and they need to get me points…

by Peter Raaymakers on May 1, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of fanbases, once again Caniacs are taking it on the chin as the media circus ramps up for this series. If you listen to some of the pundits, media outlets, and “comedians” from the Northeast, hockey fans are few and far between down here. Everyone loves NASCAR and basketball, and of course there is a plethora of insults and negative perspectives in general about the South being thrown around, even on NHL.com.

Been there and done that, right fans?

The Preds fans get this, too, and it’s really unfair. I think it’s great that there are so many hockey fans in the non-traditional markets … when those markets can sell enough tickets and make it work.

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by James Mirtle on May 1, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Again, I'll already posted this on another thread.....

Read the first post.

Mine is the second.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090429.wspthurricanes29/CommentStory/GlobeSportsHockey/home

I’d like to show them that hey there are hockey fans south of the 49th.

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by lcd2you on May 1, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The crazy thing is if any of these “experts” came to Raleigh or knew anything about, they’d be aware that a lot of the people left places like New York, Massachusetts, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania to come to the Triangle. On top of that, the area has knowledgeable, born-and-raised-in-N.C. sports fans who have embraced hockey.

I grew up in Mass. and can tell you basically everyone (not me) was a Sox fan, and a quarter of them didn’t understand the infield fly rule. It’s just a silly thing to bash this market (and other “non-traditionals”) w/o knowing it.

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by Cory Lavalette on May 1, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the criticism from the north will ever end. Even if we were to win the Cup (AGAIN), they would still talk trash about us down here.

Well, it doesn’t matter. As long as the Canes players and organization understand that they have one of the best fanbases and the best and LOUDEST stadium in the league, who sives a hoot in hell what anyone else thinks?

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by Ivan459 on May 1, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

*Gives. poor grammar…

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by Ivan459 on May 1, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of the critics are of three sorts:

1: The fed up denizen from the “People’s Republic of Canuckistan”

You can tell them as they often go on for hours about: Hockey was invented in Canada. The best hockey is played in Canada. The best players are Canadian. Canada needs more teams. Toronto itself could easily support 4 NHL teams. Canada is “number 1” – US is a big pile of “number 2”.

2: Jaded hockey fans from the NE US. They can be heard saying:

“Hockey doesn’t belong in the south (in this case anywhere that is 0.1 degree in latitude south of their region)”. “Go and divorce your sister”. “I guess hockey is what you do between NASCAR seasons?” We have ponds that freeze over in the winter!" “People who moved south to get jobs, leave corruption, open their mind, etc, at not true (insert state/region here) and don’t deserve hockey!”

3: People from a location where a team was moved from to a southern location:

They are the most unforgiving, mean spirited, self-absorbed of them all. Usually spouting off on how after a few short years the fanbase “isn’t that big” even though in a few cases the fanbase where they are from was worse. Hate the owner, players, city, state, region, people where their “beloved team went to die”.

In most cases pointing out the obvious doesn’t work as logic and a frank and open discussion are not what they are looking for. They want revenge, approval and more about why they are right and you, well you’re just trailer trash.

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by lcd2you on May 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent post icd2you. Being a long-suffering bruins fan, I can tell you that any/all opponents of the bruins will be spat upon simply because none of them have had Harry Sinden to keep them from winning a cup (yes he was coach in ’72 but like the Oilers dynasty of the 90s, the Bruins of 68-72 had about a 50% chance of winning a cup any given year with Hugo Chavez as coach). Naturally, les Habitante is reserved the best lung butter for spewage but what Caniacs should also consider is that you take the place of the 2nd most hated/heated rivalry of the Whalers. All the other crapola about being southerners or not being real fans is just ignorance. I love the fact that Florida has 2 teams. I love the fact that California has more than 2. There is plenty of room for new fans. The traditionalists imo are a near-extinct breed. Being a student of the game does not require icy ponds in winter and just look at the hart candidates…none are canadian wooot.

Anyhow, the bruins wooped the canes all season. I see no reason why anything should change.

Get out the brooms!!!! : b

by Broonsfan on May 2, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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