Hurricanes Brand Value Growth is Fourth Best in League
According to a recent report published by Forbes.com, the Carolina Hurricanes have the NHL's fourth best brand value growth, over the past three year period. The crux of the main article is about how Sidney Crosby resurrected the Penguins franchise, helping to give that team the top growth in the league.
But if you click on the link: In Pictures: the fastest growing team brands and wait until you get to the hockey segment, you will find the information about Carolina.
Here is how they have the NHL shaping up:
- Pittsburgh Penguins: three year growth 88% (brand value 28 million)
- Edmonton Oilers: three year growth 71% (brand value 22 million)
- Montreal Canadiens: three year growth 69% (brand value 47 million)
- Carolina Hurricanes: three year growth 55% (brand value 19 million)
- Buffalo Sabres: three year growth 54% (brand value 19 million)
The magazine defines "brand" as --"the portion of the team's overall value that is derived from their name as opposed to their market and league". In other words, money the team can earn from selling merchandise, naming rights, regional television deals, local media, and sponsorships.
This is great news for Peter Karmanos, Jim Rutherford, and company. Perhaps there will be a bit of wiggle room to increase the budget for next year after all, so they can keep some of the free agents who deserve raises? Also, the deeper they go into the playoffs, the more money the team will make and have available.
We will discuss this much more in depth when the timing is right.
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The Hurricanes flew to Boston on Saturday afternoon in preparation for game 5 against the Bruins. They took the day off the ice, but will have their typical pregame skate on Sunday morning.
Ryan Bayda did not make the trip. The team is being cautious and hoping that no one else catches his flu.
I'll have more information and a game preview up about noonish.
Happy Mother's Day!
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This is great news for Peter Karmanos, Jim Rutherford, and company. Perhaps there will be a bit of wiggle room to increase the budget for next year after all, so they can keep some of the free agents who deserve raises?
I have been on this kick for awhile. this is great news on that front (not that this just happened or anything, its just the first we’ve heard of it). I had my mind set on the conf. finals as where we need to get to increase the budget. not a lot of math there, just my “off the top of my head” thoughts based on number of home games, attendance, etc.
We need every home game we can get from here on out, that is if we want to keep the likes of babs, ruu, rosie or seids (assuming JR’s resigns colsey, we can debate the merits of that at a later date)
free agents
I hope we can keep all our free agents, they have been a big key to our success this year. If they don’t all feel like they need to rob the bank I think Mr Karamanous will really try to keep them around for awhile.
I’ve been pondering this for a good long while. I wrongly assumed our season would end when we met the b’s, but thought we may make it until the finals before we met them. That’s why I was on a kick for Mo to be COY. If Boudreau got it for less last year, by gosh Mo get’s it this year. Bubba and Cory both stomped my idea in the dirt with the simple fact the voting is done at the end of the regular season. As I was pondering I got to the keeping of the players. Some of you may recall I was saying this team won’t reach the full potential until late next year IF they are kept together. I stand by that. If these are retained as a unit and they get a full season together, they are gonna friggin’ wicked. So how much money does JR wring out of PK’s pockets? They have been bitching all year they were over budget. For nickels spent if we lost three more and it was over I still believe this team and coaching staff did a great job. That said, we should be able to advance and our profit sharing will be a nice check, got about a dozen extra home games this year and were at minimum one round away from the big dance. I think you will see some player movement however. Say we increase the budget to the Detroit level. That won’t keep everybody, i’m all but positive on this. So who gets shed? What about buy outs? So here’s my top 4 or 5 things eating at me when I am GM of the ’Canes for a day.
1) Can Rod earn his check? Is he tradeable?
2)Kaberle’s got to go.
3)Wallin has to go
The next two are more complicated.
4)Sutter has got to come up to the NHL level. I say smoke Cole (caveat on this in a few) and bring him up.
5) I’d also look at Walker and Whitney maybe getting moved for draft picks and salary dump.
Now I’m sure I got some panty’s ruffled. here’s the caveat. Does Cole have any tangible contribution? He would appear to get our big money mman earning his check. He also is a fair player. If he would take a 50% cut and sign for 2-3 yrs he’s gat to be kept. Great for us and great for him. His numbers will increase over that time and he will be able to get back into the big money in a few years and is young enough to weather the storm. Walker and Whitney I picked as they are still very tradeable and at the twilight, like Stillman was. This allows a much younger core to develop and drops some fair salary money. We lose alot of grit in Walker and goals and skill with whit. That said, we got some very nice stuff in the pipeline, that aren’t going to cost squat and need to get at this level and play. Ruutu, is a must have and it may be pricey. Same with Jussi, I don’t know his contract status, so may not be an issue. Rosie has earned a hefty raise. I have always felt he doesn’t get the respect from the front office, if that’s true, he’s gone. I’d like to see him stay and with a hefty raise. seids should be kept if his salary can be managed. I think he will be reasonable considering his past.
That’s just a few of the points and obviously not all the aspects of each, just a small glimpse into the mind of a maniac Caniac. I have always tried to temper the “business” with the game, it’s like chess. Right now, we have hit a wall, I don’t think PK will bump the salary cap very much over what it is now. that means you have to shed salary. I’m worried my thoughts are wrong and we will see some key guys go.
Pipe up, i’m working around the house today before the game. I’d love to hear what everybody else thinks the team will look like next year. I expect Sutter to come up and live on fat back and cheeseburgers. I think that speedy little shit Boychuck does, too. Only so many roster spots. I also notice that it’s the forward core mostly. They almost have to keep Babs and if you dump Nic and Frank that’s only 1 roster spot down and there are several players ready to move up into that. I think our d is in fine shape, just need to shed some stuff and gain more exper.
My fingers hurt…
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I will humor you this once…
1.Rod is NOT going anywhere, so you may as well go ahead and get over that one.
2 & 3. Kaberele, I agree 100%, Wallin, I like, but we may need to free up some cap space. Both players still have a year left on their contracts, but if we can trade it will free up 3.9 mil in payroll.
4. I am sure you will see Sutter this coming season although I am not sure he’s quite ready to play with the big boys. He has alot of skill and speed, but as we saw earlier this year..not quite ready. As for Cole and his $4 mil paycheck, JR will re-sign him and I doubt it will be at any discount. His production post-season hasn’t been great (0G, 2 A) , but you have to admit that he was a key player in getting the team to the playoffs.
5. Ray Whitney? are you on drugs man???? His contract is good through next season for $3.5 mil, regular season had 24 goals and 53 assists, post season 3 goals and 5 assists… worth every penny IMO, enough said. Walker’s stats are another story..although I think he brings alot of experience and grit to the team, and would still only free up $2.5, but that would be enough to pay for Jussi’s, his paycheck listed @ $1.9, but then you still have to think about Ruutu(gotta keep Ruu), Rosie (he’s due a HUGE raise), Seids and Babchuk. Should be some interesting off season negotiations, and like you, I am worried about losing some “key” players. That’s my two cents….
1. I can make a good point for the reasons we need to let Roddy go. But I would not agree with them full heartedly. I think we should keep him. Maybe restructure (do they do this in hockey? Its very common in the NFL)
2/3. AGREE that Kaberele and Wallin have GOT TO GO. Nic has played very well this post season, I will give him that. But for a million and some change? No thanks. and Kaberele: YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK…. GOOD BYE. Problem is they both are basically stuck here. 2.2 mill for a guy that has as much upside as a new born giraffe on ice skates? It makes me sick.
4. Agree with Sutter on both paladin and jenniwa. He should be up, but also needs to fill out. I watched game 3 with a guy from TSN (bubba did you meet "Ned’ while you where there?) who covered Sutter and Boychuck when they were 14-15 years old. He said Sutter had the arms of an 8 year old back then. He seems to be growing into his frame a little. But you know being a sutter he will have the work ethic to get to where he needs to be. Next year he could put together 14 minutes of ice playing on the fourth line and ALOT of PK time. Boychuck will probably be ready (but alot of the same size problems sutter has) and lets not for get about Drayson Bowman. This kid is for real IMO. He was on US world Junior’s second line, on a team that was pretty solid (and that first line…OMG)
5 bq. "Ray Whitney? are you on drugs man???? His contract is good through next season for $3.5 mil, regular season had 24 goals and 53 assists, post season 3 goals and 5 assists… worth every penny "
hate to say it but I agree with that. lol (its all in fun) Ray is a team leader, a solid player, by far the most consistent player for us this year. MVP of the team in my book. No way do we let him go. I would be very displeased.
I don’t know what will happen. I know we are all hockey nuts here, but this team needs to run off a few good years to solidify its fan base. The cup helped, but look how we followed it up. All of these “bandwagoneers” that we all know, will be solid (paying) fans if we can go on a good run. This market has the ability to average over 17,500 fans a night (we did it in 07. There is no reason to believe that we can’t aleast match that going forward. With the uncertainty of the economy, I think investing in this team over the next couple years could pay dividends to PK. But this is a topic for another day I guess.
by CarolinaCanes on May 10, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
JR has repeatedly said what a character guy Whitney is, and I was on the “Whtney must go bandwagon” last year. This year, and it’s not even a contract year, he has stepped it up and played well all around, not just scoring. Wallin has been a beast this year in the playoffs, and has a no trade clause so he CAN’T go anywhere. Sutter needs about 40 lbs of muscle on him, he’s skinnier than a runway model. Sure, bring him up. But, he’ll be 3-4th line only. I wouldn’t cry if Walker was let go/traded. Rod is not a trade-able, and I’d be willing to give him a summer to recuperate, IF he agrees to lay off the heavy training work load and rest his knee. Kaberle needs a fresh start with another team, so if JR can work some magic and find him a new home, I’m okay with that, too. And how can you just “restructure” and bring up the young players when the current roster is smoking at the best time of the year?
Other than that, I agree with every thing you said.
That’s a nice tidbit there, but another thing I’ve noticed is that all those other teams are constantly on national tv, yet the Canes very rarely are.
by Linix129 on May 10, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
What’s your take on Cullen’s role? He hasn’t impressed me since the concussion over a year ago. I like the guy, but he’s pretty expensive at $2.8mil. That’s more than Gleason (next year). Unbelievably Cullen makes more than Ward this year. Here’s the Cane Country chart – a little outdated, but helpful:
by Carolyn Christians on May 10, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions
2 things to add.
1) Matt Cullen on a given night can be the best player on the ice. he jsu doesn’t always hit it. When he left, I knew we were screwed.
2)My Ray trade is because he is among the most easy to trade. Great value for a great player. His role on ice is puck handling and goals. Sutter, Boychuck and Bowman all are going to fill that roll. I agree his leadership will be missed, so would his skill. It’s just when I go down the list and need to free up a few million, his name is the one I’d pick.
So don’t get me wrong, I love Ray, just from the business end, he’s a gold coin.
I was wondering if Rod had a NTC or not, hence wondering if he could be traded.
Gonna be some tension this off season unless PK opens the purse and keeps the lot. I will say that if/when we crush the b’s balls and advance, we just made the top 4 teams of this season. That’s a pretty powerful stat for JR to use to sign these guys. Part of the reason I wanted to shed the afore mentioned guys is to get where the Wings are this year. They made the cap because they have alot of entry level contracts. We stack up with our young guys shed a couple, we have this very same team with youth coming up for 3-4 yrs. We keep the guys I thought should go, we lose Rod in 2, Ray in 2, Walker probably less, nic and frank, etc. So I was just thinking dump them early with more value and get a longer run. I feel sorry for JR and Mo this summer, counter parts over on the wings too.
Oh yea, Mo’s back, what if we meet the Wings in the Cup round? How cool woulkd that be? He’s got a far superior team this time around.
A-that was more than the couple istarted with, huh?
Wallin has a NTC from 2006, doesn’t he? And haven’t we been trying to unload Kaberle for the last year – to no avail? What’s Cole likely to fetch elsewhere? Can we keep him at $3mil? And Ruutu and Jokinen?
What is the Cap next year?
by Carolyn Christians on May 10, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions



















