Pittsburgh Drops Carolina in Game 1 - Pens 3, Canes 2
by Bob Wage on May 19, 2009 12:15 AM EDT
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PrintThe Pittsburgh Penguins defeated the Carolina Hurricanes on Monday night by a score of 3-2, in game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals. The Canes fell behind by two goals midway through the opening period and could not quite gather enough momentum to over-take the home team.
Unfortunately for the Canes, Tuomo Ruutu and Erik Cole were both knocked out of the game with injuries. Ruutu was leg-whipped or slew-footed from behind by Mark Eaton in the first period and limped off the ice. Cole was hit hard by Matt Cooke in a tough knee-to-knee hit in the third. Cole was helped from the ice, but tried to make a return. He skated for 12 additional seconds and left the ice again.
Paul Maurice said after the game that both players had lower body injuries and would be evaluated Tuesday. There were no penalties called on either play.
The Penguins started the scoring when Miro Satan popped out of the penalty box all alone, gathered up a pass from Matt Cooke, and deked out Cam Ward on the breakaway to make the score 1-0. Just a minute and change later, Evgeni Malkin scored on a backhander to make it 2-0.
The Hurricanes were able to put some consistent pressure on Marc-Andre Fleury in the second period, but seemed to over-pass at times and did not take advantage of some open opportunities. Chad LaRose finally did slip one past Fleury to get the Hurricanes on the board about 13 minutes into the second.
But the Pens would score again midway through the third period on a powerplay tally by Philippe Boucher on a goal that Cam Ward would love to have back. The Hurricanes fought hard, but looked a bit tired as they were double-shifting some players because they were down two forwards. (Ruutu played 2 minutes and Cole played 14).
Brooks Orpik was called for elbowing with just two minutes and change left in the game, and the Canes found some new life. Joe Corvo scored on a shot from the point as Carolina pulled Cam Ward to give them an extra attacker on the play.
With the score 3-2, Eric Staal got very close to tying the score, but guided the puck too close to Fleury and the Pens goalie was able to make the save and preserve the win.
The Hurricanes will have to take solace in the fact, that other than a couple of mistakes in the opening period, it was a pretty evenly played contest which could have gone either way. Ward can certainly play better and the forwards need to stop trying for the perfect play and just put the puck on the net. There was one play where Fleury was down and out and even with an open net, the Canes were still passing the puck.
But keep in mind that the Pens can play better as well. Game 2 will be on Thursday night.
Game Notes:
It's nothing new losing game one as the Canes lost the first game of both previous series. It's also more of the same as the Hurricanes always seem to come away with injuries when visiting Mellon.
The Penguins out-shot the Hurricanes 31-25.
Faceoffs were even, 50/50 with Eric Staal winning 64% of his attempts. Matt Cullen won 29%.
Erik Cole led the team with six hits. The team had 28.
Tim Gleason had 5 blocked shots which was tops on the Canes.
To the people who emailed me complaining about my Brooks Orpik article last week, why was the defenseman elbowing someone with just 2:34 left in a game when his team is winning it, 3-1?
Remember the outcry when Alex Ovechkin went knee to knee with Sergei Gonchar? We will see what is said about Matt Cooke's hit on Erik Cole.
Pittsburgh went 1-4 on the powerplay, Carolina was 1-2.
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Did Erik Cole do something to the Penguins at some point in his history in the NHL that they feel the need to inflict horrible hits on him at all costs? Unreal.
Lame...
At least is wasn’t Orpik this time.
As for Eaton’s move on Ruutu, I have a hard time believing that a guy who has lost two of the past three years of his career due to cheap hits would so such a thing on purpose.
Ironically, Cooke’s hit on Cole looked innocent, but of all the Pens to take a cheap shot it would be Cooke.
Regardless, I hope that both the guys get back in there to make this a complete series where refs and injuries don’t dictate outcome. At least they will get two days off to rest.
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I think the difference between Cooke’s hit and Ovy’s hit have to do with traffic and space.
I was confused what happened when Cole and Cooke collided, and, if you get a good glimpse of it, it’s simply Cooke getting ready for a big hit, then realizing he misjudged the timing, and the two met leg to leg.
Ovy’s was in open space man on man. I wouldn’t compare the two, and, at the same time, I think we Pens are a bit done with that issue, as both Gonch and Ovy talked that hit over friendly enough.
Hope Cole is alright though, don’t want to see teams play less than 100% their full capacity. Still, should be an intense series, as Game 1’s last few seconds showed.
PensBurgh penalty - Lavender - 2 minutes for hijynxing.
The way I saw it, both Cooke and Cole were in a high traffic zone. It looked like Cole was zagging through traffic, and Cooke was trying to track him down. There wasn’t a good TV feed that showed exactly what happened IMO. It didn’t appear to be too dirty a hit, but who knows the exact specifics about it. I know Cole was yapping about it afterwards.
Maybe this series will have a bit of grit to it now?
All I know is you can't have it both ways...
I heard a lot of crying that Ovechkin’s hit was dirty. Now it’s going to be questionable at best? Unbelievable. Truth of the matter is Orpik made a life threatening dirty hit on Cole 4 years ago. Now, finally Cole got him with a clean hit. He finally caught Orpik and put him on his ass. Your goon Cooke didn’t like the legal, clean, hard hit on his brother goon so he found a way to injure Cole. Gawd I wish Walker would have saved that punch for either of the goon brothers.
Love, love, love the Canes!
TV also caught a glimpse of Cooke on the bench after the hit and he looked sorry about what happened. Regret doesn’t strike me as something associated with intent.
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How do you know he was sorry?
He could have been mad Cole got up. People who are sorry usually stand over the fallen and show remorse. Not go to the bench and cuss after the guy gets up.
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by Caniac Jack on May 19, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Watch the entire replay
Cooke was sprawled out twenty feet away and slowly made his way to the bench.
His body language was not smug, or gloating, it was of a guy who felt sorry, or regretted a situation.
If he was a heartless bastard he would have been smirking, laughing, or showing some other body language.
It is unfortunate and hopefully both or your guys will be 100% for game 2.
Get over it already.
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by carolinaeasy on May 19, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
nobody says he can't act
the “what, what happened?” look is as old as the school yard.
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Read my post
I am not getting into a pissing match.
Agree to disagree, but have some class as you do it please.
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by carolinaeasy on May 19, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So you have class...
By telling someone to “get over it already.” You’re invading my free will. I don’t tell you what to do. If he felt so sorry it might have been because he stuck his knee out on purpose because he is a heartless bastard in spurts. Then he felt bad because he knew “damn, I did it again.” Kind of like a serial killer kills then hates himself for doing it, but it is the addiction to the act that brings him back for more. Maybe he’s a serial goon.
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After the play
The quick replay showed Cole release the puck, which deflected in the net, and then Matt Cooke comes at him from behind/side. Cooke is trying to make a big hit on Cole, like Cole put on B.O., but he instead puts a dirty knee to knee hit on him, well after the puck was gone. You could hear Cole scream on TV immediately after it happened.
I wish that we could have gone after him and Eaton but during the same game might have been too risky. If either of those guys cannot play. i would love to see Conboy taking runs at them both all night in game 2.
If Cole and Ruutu are out
expect to see Conboy doing a convoy through some of the top lines of the Pens.
Hey, “high traffic areas” are a bitch and cut both ways.
I try to be level and call it as I see them but I am getting sick and tired of the least penalized team in the regular season go in and out of the penalty box 2 to 1 times more than their opponent.
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Yep
Two minutes is not so high a price to pay, I guess, for the elimination of, say, your second line center.
by DidJussiThat? on May 19, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Really?
The Pens don’t get penalties because of their system of cycling the puck down low, with skill, speed, and size, which creates circumstances where teams need to interfere, trip, and hold to keep up. Plus the Pens employ a “high tempo” driven by north-south movement, not curling like most other teams.
Simply put, the Pens control the puck, thus lowering the likelihood of taking penalties while conversely increasing the liklihood of your opponent taking a penalty. Its basic strategy that takes advantage of what the Pens, and Wings might I add, have and other teams don’t. Sorry Cane Nation it looks like we are on our way to a repeat of last year’s Final.
Also, vailed threats against other human beings. Guys, this is a game. Let’s have some perspective. I was pissed about what Ovie did to Gonchar but never was so brave as to threaten Ovie with bodily harm via the Internet.
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The Canes have lost game 1 in the last two series and won the series. Do you really think the Pens dominated that game last night?
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
No I don’t think the Pens dominated. You but both teams backup goalies in there and that is a 7-6 kind of game. Ward as great, as expected, but MAF was better.
I must be clear in saying I respect the Canes, I really do. You don’t get this far in the playoffs without ability. All I am saying is that I do think the Pens are better and will win in 6.
I would not be surprised in the least if Carolina wins Game 2. With that being said I would not be surprised to see the Pens take a game in Carolina. These are two similar teams from top to bottom but the Pens have 2 superstars in Crosby and Malkin and there is just no way a rational hockey fan can argue that Staal, Carolina’s superstar, is better than those two. Staal was a ghost last night because his brother has the size to contain him in a way that Boston and Jersey couldn’t.
The role players are a draw, defence does to Pittsburgh, goal-tending goes to Canes, so the difference maker is super stars. Pittsburgh has two, Carolina has one, and that one is not as good as Pittsburgh’s two.
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What size does Jordan have that Chara doesn’t?
Seriously, you’re saying the Pens have the size that the Bruins didn’t?
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
At center, yes. The Pens centers are bigger than Boston’s. At D, Gill and Chara are both monsters so that’s a draw I think. Your Staal needs to get around our Staal and Gill. When playing Boston your Staal had Chara and not another 6’4’’ 220lb center on him as well
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All I know is
they didn’t lose the 1st game 4 to 1.
Cam was human while Fluery was hot.
As Cam’s the better goalie, here’s looking forward to a better result in Game 2.
As per the hit on Cole, what’s to say? I didn’t like it but if that’s the game and how it’s to be played, high traffic or not it will be played that way.
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Ward was human?
I suppose those saves on Guerin and a host of others were just ordinary. Last goal was one he’d like back…but toug’h to say he was average. Pens could have easily scored 6 or 7 if he wasn’t on his game.
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
In the first period
Cam “The Wall” Ward had a “mere oustanding human moment”.
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pretty good game
I thought the Canes played pretty well except for a few turnovers. We kept the game tight and I think frustrated the Pens as well. The shots of the fans faces with 2 minutes said a lot. They were freakin’ scared.
Let’s hope the Canes learned from the mistakes and keep the Pens to 3 goals or less again, and I think we will steal game 2.
You are not the only Canes fan that seems to be displeased with Cole. What is up with that? I thought Cole was a fan favorite for producing big goals and big times.
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Check out his post season stats. Last night was one of his better of the playoffs. He still has 0 goals. He was totally non-existent in the NJ series, and against Boston he wasn’t doing much that showed up on the stat sheet.
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
he would be if he did produce big goals at big times…
by Andrea's evil twin on May 19, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to call out Cullen. If he’s willing to take a the hit from Satan (if that counts as a hit), he doesn’t put the puck over the glass which led to the 3rd Pens goal.
Eaton’s hit was an accident.
Cooke knew exactly what he was doing.
An accident??
Since when is slew-footing (clipping) a freakin accident? Accident or not, It’s in the rule book, penalty plain and simple, happened right in front of the ref. Should have been called.
why we will win
canes will win this series if the rest looks anything like last night. let me tell you why i am so confident.
canes basically held the momentum through ten minutes of play and through two penalty kills and had a great power play that ended with an odd bounce off the boards to a overratted(and underrated at the same time) Satan who puts it past Cam. Satan wont play this well anymore, his emergence could benefit us, cause he WILL suck and if they think he is getting his game back theyll play him more (like last night)
Then the canes reeled a bit and Malkin buries a luckily (and skilled) shot between cams leg and glove.
down 2-0 early(sound famliar?) it took the rest of the period to catch their breathes and their heads.
canes dominate second period. didnt get ANY bounces and got some goals stolen from them (both from great saves and great acting)
(ps i thouht interference was called when the goalie cant make the save? whats the call when the goalie decides to forget about the save in order to make contact?)
third period was more of the same, back and forth with a small edge to the canes.
cullen takes a penalty that NO one ever takes. (it wont happen again)
and they scores (barely) on the power play.
and even after all that, they barely win with a couple of luckily stops by MAF at the end.
this is all in pittsburg building without rutuu.
i say this bodes well for carolina.
I agree Chris
and I think that Coach Mo will do the tweaks and get it done.
I just wish the ‘Canes wouldn’t come out so flat on Game 1 of each series.
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Ummm....
….Satan is a 4th line guy. I don’t think the Pens are thinking he is life or death. Nor do I think they will play him more since their centers have to double shift in order for him to play (Pens dressing 7 defensemen, so they’re short a forward)
Canes didn’t have a shot for first 13 minutes of 3rd period, but they had the advantage?
Canes dominated 2nd period for a myriad of reasons, and that is what they have to focus on. But acting and lucky saves? Both Wardo and Fluery made great saves (and they both happen to be a part of their respective teams) Sheesh. Let’s speak about reality and not hyperbole.
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Canes did come out slow in the third period, I’d attribute some of that to Cole and Rutuu being out and having to re-shuffle the lines.
For the next game, whatever the situation will be(who’s in or out), the Canes will have adjusted and be ready.
The Canes had at least 4 extremely high quality shots that didn’t go, that’s not going to happen every game either.
Not sure you can realy say one goalie out played the other. In many cases the best a goalie can do is put himself in position to block as much of the goal as possible. Sometimes the puck will hit his pads and he’s the hero, other times the puck bounces oddly and skips through and he’s the goat.
by CanesFanFromLI on May 19, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
This may sound weird, but I think the Canes were outplayed for 2/3 rds of that games, yet probably had the better number of scoring chances. But they were too busy trying to make an extra pass or getting all tied up with Pittsburgh D to bury them.
For how solid Scuderi is as a defenseman, that’s how bad Gill is. Poor Hal is a dinosaur in this new NHL. I for the life of me cannot figure how the Pens play him more than Boucher.
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
agree with about all of this. Too cutesy last night. And yes, Gill is dreadful. Dunno how he’s playing ahead of Boucher.
by Cory Lavalette on May 19, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Here, Here!
Best post yet!
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by carolinaeasy on May 19, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta say, the slew foot on Ruutu looked worse than the hit on Cole. Eaton was MAYBE going down when he hit him, but it looked like he was setting up for a good ole slew foot regardless.
Elbowing with 2 minutes left? Keep it classy Orpik.
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It the long line of oxymoronic phrases:
Military Intelligence
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Classy Orpik
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Lets just hope we get some good news today regarding Cole/Ruute.
I am not expecting anything good though.
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Can’t you at least take some joy in Cole running him through the boards last night. I have been an Orpik fan since he came up in 2001 and I have NEVER seen him get hit that hard!!! As a hockey fan, I must say that hit was awesome!
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I do
but it is also muted by the knee on knee hit, no-call, no-goal and the like.
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i guess in canes country throwing someone into the goalie is legal…then whining about how it is a penalty. But in reality the intererence call was a check on someone not near the puck or making a play on the puck, you cannot do that, i know your team is new down here and all but learn the rules before you cry about a call.
by JasonGoPens on May 19, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah 6'2" 205 lbs Cole
throws 6’7" 250lbs Gill into Fleury and still has the ability to turn back toward the play!
Again, your absolute homerism is showing.
Also, both can go for the same piece of ice. As Cole didn’t have the puck either, they can call the penalty on Gill.
I await your answer with baited breath.
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Homerism, nice…anyway i said what i needed to already, not sure what your looking for. I guess i can say the black and white stripes called it no goal, called it interference and he got the call right. I don’t have to say anything else, i’m not getting paid by the league. It will be an easy series if you keep taking avoidable trash penalties, because we won’t keep failing on the powerplay for long.
by JasonGoPens on May 19, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Basic physics dicates that it is not just the size of the object, but the velocity at which an object is travelling. Cole was skating hard to the net. Gill was standing there and got bulled over like an NBAer taking a charge.
Gill had position and Cole tried to take it with the puck not there. Sorry dude, that is an interference. That rule, implemented after the lock-out, is why guys are not mauled in front of the net like they used to be.
Let it go man, you are wrong on this one. Additionally, I know this is a sports blog, but try to keep the bitterness down a bit man, seriously.
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I am well aware of Physics
it’s what my degree is in. I find it very hard to see 250lbs being moved that far when the 205lbs guy was able to spin around and go back up the ice in such a tight turn. You want to do physics? Let me know. We can go and get a rough idea of Cole’s velocity, the trajectory of how
However, how did you feel on the knee to knee on Gonchar? And OV got a penalty, yes? When OV didn’t get a suspension, how’d you feel? Now imaging OV not even getting 2 PIM for it.
As for letting it go, I was. See my post to JEEP99 below. I was dropping it. That you replied after I did to JEEP99 and pounced means that I don’t feel especially bad for going back on something as you and Jason seem to think that penalties are only for other teams.
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Yea, you are right. Having played at the college level and now that I ref at the junior level that is SO right. I completely believe that penalties should only be awarded to one team. Brilliant read, am I that transparent? Darn, I though I was smarter than that.
Way to represent the southern hockey fan. God, I thought Flyer and Caps were bad, at least they know their stuff.
Out of curiosity, what would the formula be to figure all this out? We obvioulsy don’t have the hard data but if you know the formula I bet ya someone out there could figure it out.
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hehe
I’m not from the south. Moved here 10 years ago, from Oregon. FYI.
As you seem to have the same issues brought up to you by all the fans of different teams the Pens play against, you’re right there’s nothing to it.
For formulas, Newton’s Laws would work really well in these situations. Just have to remember these are non-elastic collisions going on.
But enough of that.
As I said to other Pens fans, you don’t want the Pens getting a little special to be something with merit. It would taint the Pen’s with an indelible mark.
And I hope you’re right that it is a much of sour grapes. One reason I don’t watch BBall, besides being 5’8" and can’t jump, are due to the non-calls on the superstar players. If I am correct then hockey is just like that.
But you are correct on that this was one game.
I’ll wait until the end of the series after the fat lady sings for anymore.
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Love the flame work! Keep it up!
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by carolinaeasy on May 20, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
As Gill is 6'7" 250lbs
and Cole 6’ 2" 205lbs, I was amazed at Cole’s strength and Gills diving ability.
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The picture up there says it all.
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
From Michael Farber
Bottom of the second FULL paragraph.
Were it not for a disallowed goal on which Erik Cole was penalized for goalie interference when he railroaded Pittsburgh defenseman Hal Gill into goaltender Marc-André Fleury — either Cole clearly doesn’t know his own strength or Gill is a remarkably delicate flower for a man who stands 6’7" and weighs almost as much as the legal briefs in the Phoenix Coyotes bankruptcy case — the Hurricanes would have been tied heading into the third period.
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Gill
Also got crushed by Ovechkin. But apparently he must have been acting there as well.
Just pay attention to his career. Gill is horrible on his skates, and is the ‘smallest’ big man out there. He’s very tall, but with any bulk, he’d be 300. Don’t think there was any act in what happened. Leverage is key.
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it seems that Icd2you
never played football. If he did he would know “low man wins” is gospel and could easily be attributed to the hit.
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by carolinaeasy on May 19, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I am fully aware of "lowman wins"
I am also aware which direction objects in a collision go.
I am also aware of how tight of turn Cole made.
I am also aware how far Gill went.
I am also aware one is played on ice and on skates.
Next.
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I am aware that the amount of tears falling in here could get us a nice sheet of ice to play on game 3.
Nah, it would melt
see the amount of manure spread by some about how it was an accident, how 250 pound guys doing a Greg Luganous(sp?) when hit by 205 pound guys (who have the ability to still make a tight, tight turn aka no real velocity) and still be able to turn up ice is interference and be a penalty against the other guy will keep it warm.
The amount of heat with no light, along with noxious gases is profound when there is so much garbage like that spread about.
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No kidding...
I can feel his anguish through the computer. Next, really? O.K.
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hehe
yeah, I guess I’m not a happy guy like you.
Then again, “Ignorance is bliss”, ain’t it?
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by carolinaeasy on May 20, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, you picked up that torch
you run with it.
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this is the most ridiculous claim on this thread. you guys are harping about a 6’2" guy knocking a 6’7" guy off his skates. Yet you expect Fleury, who is a 6’2" 180 lb. waif to stay up when said 6’7" guy is tossed into him. C’mon.
you guys want to complain about slew-footing and knee-on-knee, at least you have some reasonable claims. In a game with terrible officiating overall, leave the good calls alone.
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by pascaldupweevil on May 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is Gill wasn't tossed into Fleury
Gill Dived on Fleury
Get it right.
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regardless...
my point was that chrisj’s claim of Fleury taking contact ever making the save is ridiculous.
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by pascaldupweevil on May 19, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
over*
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by pascaldupweevil on May 19, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW, LaRose said in his postgame interview that he thought Ruutu was OK. But like Mo said, a lot of times it’s how things look the next morning.
by Cory Lavalette on May 19, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions
To you "caniacs"
1. Cam Ward still scares me, so don’t think i’m just gonna invade your blog talking trash.
2. Those weren’t dirty hits, if you look at Cookes face after the hit while sitting on the bench he looks like oh crap i didn’t mean to do that, i’m sorry.
3. If you think you can focus on Crosby and forget about Malkin like you did then you fail, and he told you that last night.
4. Eric Staal may be your best player, but he would be on the third line on our team just like his brother. Centering the third line.
5. That interference that took away a goal…well what did you think was going to happen when you throw someone into the goalie…learn the rules before you whine.
6. You can get all excited about losing game 1 since you lost game one both series before, but no one has ever won 3 game 7’s in a row so you better get it done quickly.
7. We have too much firepower plain and simple, you need 3-4 goals to beat us in a game, you don’t have it.
8. Go Pens.
Erik Cole should be a basketball player, cause that is a hell of a box out. Look at Gill go flying!
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Fellow Pens fan warning...
1. agree
2. agree
3. agree
4. I think if the Pens had Eric Staal Malkin would become a winger for either Crosby on line 1 or Staal in line 2. Eric is a better offensive player than Jordan, but is not in the same league as Crosby or Malkin.
5. true that, it was text book interference.
6. history seems to back Jason up
7. If Ruutu and Cole are playing injured or are out he is right. Otherwise, I don’t think the Pens O is that much better. It is better, but not overwhelmingly better.
8. agree
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by pascaldupweevil on May 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough.
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by pascaldupweevil on May 19, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
malkin got a lucky shot through between the leg and glove,
if that shot doesnt go in, every one is talking about how crosby and malkin didnt show up last night.
but malkin got lucky, so now they re talkaing about how malkin showed up when crosby got shut down.
we shall see.
C’mon dude, there was skill in the placement and timing of that shot. If Staal scores like that, i just don’t see you bad-mouthing it.
Life is about one simple choice, get busy living or get busy dying
it was very skillful… but also very lucky.
I would say the same for Staal’s goal against Brouder in game 7 in the final minutes as well.
by packpigskinfan25 on May 19, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, In both cases the defense was caught standing around watching the play. That Malkin goal was on all three Canes just content to stand around on D. Same as the Staal goal.
Which is fine with me, that is more correctable than conceeding a lucky goal.
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate this whole "lucky shot" buisness
Lucky shots are created by putting yourself in the position to achieve that said luck.
Think of it this way, Ward had some “lucky saves” last night is just as viable an argument.
Or you could say that the players worked hard, put the puck on the net and good things happened, the goalie put himself in position and good things happened.
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by carolinaeasy on May 19, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Cookes face look my kid's
after they got caught doing something. I’m sure OV’s face showed the same concern.
Gill’s dive gets a -1, on the ’Canes score that is, and a no-call for what it was.
That the Pen’s firepower is better than the Bruins or Devils is not in dispute. The Pen’s “D” is not as good as either team’s D.
Chris is right, Malkin got lucky.
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Actually, Ovie did not show the least amount of concern until he had to stand in front of Gonchar in the hand shake line following game 7. This isn’t Fox News my friend, you just can’t make up facts based on 1/2 truths.
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ummm is it just me or wasnt AO almost in tears after the game saying over and over again how much he hoped Gonch was fine and he didnt mean to do it…
my speculation is just because they are both Russian though… but he was very remorseful.
by packpigskinfan25 on May 19, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Time to move on...
The Cole/Orpik thing is over. They fought it out on the ice a couple years ago, so Cole’s great hit last night could’ve been on anybody.
That being said, I think Cooke’s hit was cheap, and I think he should be fined, regardless of what should’ve been done to AO.
As a Pens fan, it’s hard for me to say this, but, I think the Canes would match up better against the Wings (should they advance). The Pens defense is no different than last year, marginal, at best, and when faced with a strong forecheck, it’s terrible. I do think the Pens win this series though, and will hope for the best.
As far as luck goes, alot of goals are luck. Most one-timer goals are luck, as they’re just trying to get it on net. Deflections are luck, not lucky for contact, but lucky to get past a goalie.
You can always offer the “if’s”, but remember, if your aunt had balls she’d be your uncle.
The return of Eaton and the seasoning of Letang leaves me to disagree with the idea that the Pens D is the same as last year. It is not, it is better. Letang is on his way to being legitimate top 2 D-man in this league while last year he was a 7th guy
Life is about one simple choice, get busy living or get busy dying
offensively, the defense (this is getting confusing!) doesn’t need any help.
i don’t think letang is an upgrade defensively, certainly a stud offensively, but as far as someone who is going to punish franzen/holmstrom in front of the net, not a chance….
Letang has to outsmart them and out position…which is not going to happen at age 21. Maybe someday he can turn into a Zubov like player, but not now…
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Class
While I think Cooke deserves a beat down I don’t wish any of the Pens injury. There are “Caniacs” on every message board I go to who just blow my mind with the things they say. Wishing injury, freaking out because of a bad shift, calling the team quitters because they have a bad game. All this bragging that Cam’s a better goalie isn’t helping anything either. Whether he is or isn’t Fleury was kicking some ass last night. The Boston fans gave their team bad mojo with their bragging and assinine posts. Let’s not be like those idiots.
Love, love, love the Canes!
There are bad fans in every bunch. Luckily none of them really frequent this board. No one should want any kind of dirty retaliation on Cooke/Eaton.
Cole laid a nice clean legal hit on Orpik. that is the kind of thing they need to come at the Pens with.
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I didn’t think you guys were bad at all really.
The Pens fans are already here after 1 game…..should be an interesting series.
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but i didn’t see too many people claiming to not be trolls while clearly trolling.
Mister numbered list up there.
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll be here all week, i get bored at work. But that will be the only list, just those facts needed to be known.
by JasonGoPens on May 19, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
All week? Don’t you mean the next 3 weeks since this series is spaced out long enough to last into next season?
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I know! Insane! I know one is because of a Springsteen concert in Mellon Arena. No idea on the other two.
Well, at least it's not the Denver Nuggets situation.
Having a Western Finals matchup the same night as a booked WWE show. That’s just a funny scenario.
believe it or not, Elmo
Yep. Elmo at the RBC.
by DidJussiThat? on May 20, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
yep
I think we should suit him up.
“AAAAh, Elmo no like Orpik. Orpik hit Elmo in eye. Elmo kill.”
by DidJussiThat? on May 20, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't want to go back and make a list of each individual...
It’s kind of like saying white people have had it good the last 400 years in this country. We know not all white people have had it good. I did generalize and therefore you should feel free to exclude yourself based on your conscious. Either you bragged and made assinine posts or you didn’t. Most Boston fans disappeared during their three game skid. I wasn’t just thinking about this site. They were on the N&O board pretty heavy and most were assinine and braggarts. I don’t mind apologizing if you feel included unjustly. I’m sorry and I hope it helps with your hurt feelings.
Love, love, love the Canes!
Hurt feelings?
nah, none of those.
and to counter your point, there were hardly any ’Canes on our forum during Games 5 and 6.
Those Boston “fans” were probably kids who thought it’d be cool to jump on the hockey bandwagon about a month and a half ago, and thought that Bruins rulz!! +1!!
I was one of those Canes fans that disappeared during games 5 and 6- and 7 too really… but that probably had more to do with me graduatiing from NCSU and moving then the fact that we got pummeled for two games.
=)
by packpigskinfan25 on May 19, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
What does everyone think about Eric Staal pushing Fleury’s stick away from him which lead directly to a Canes goal?
I think Fleury should hold onto his stick?
He had a good grip on it when he tripped someone a few minutes after that play.
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Clearly a penalty, gift wrapped goal, you are welcome.
by JasonGoPens on May 19, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
looked to me like Fleury almost threw his stick… Staal swept it out of the way. I guess that should be a penalty, but I dont think it could be said that Staal KNEW it was Fleury’s stick? I dunno… kind of a lame rule really. Should be more specific.
ITs not like Fluery was reaching for it anyways. He had given up on the stick.
by packpigskinfan25 on May 19, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Watch the highlights – Staal both checks it out of his hand and then sweeps it away. The first is under the rules an automatic call, and the second one discretionary.
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
longer after they swallowed the whistles
at the end of the game in the last 2 minutes of the 3rd period.
Of course they swallowed the whistles on chosen one’s team long before that.
Wow, you got a point there now don’t you!
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The ‘chosen one’s team’? Okay, sorry. I didn’t know what I was dealing with. Thought this was a good hockey talk.
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
not when one side
refuses to see that their team gets away with a lot.
There’s good hockey, then there’s the crap the Pen’s and Cindy get away with.
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I’m a dude from Pittsburgh who spends a ton of time in Raleigh and is moving there in a month. These are my 2 favorite teams, and I hate that they’re playing against each other. I root for Canes in any other series, and I just want this series to be done ‘correctly’.
Any reference to ‘Cindy’ or any other swipe just negates anything you have to say. If you knew anything at all about hockey and watched Crosby at all without any homer glasses, you would find him to be awesome to watch, just as I find Staal when I watch the Canes.
Grow up. You’re missing a lot of good things about the sport.
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You can call him Cindy all day long, fact remains he is arguabley the best player on the planet and jelousy is a stinky cologne. You hate him because he is good, and if given the chance any team, ANY TEAM, would pick him up without a second thought. So don’t act like if he went to Carolina one day you wouldn’t want him because you are a liar.
Don’t feed the ridiculous. Blog is for good hockey talk (judging by the article written). This isn’t like the Pensblog free for all…. ;-)
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha i love pensblog, it is a free for all there, i also live in Raliegh, Cary actually, moved here a couple years ago. Nice place, but we need some fan rivalry, i’m doing my part:>
lol – fair enough. I’m doing all of the smack talk on Facebook with my friends. I already know a lot of people down there. Maybe getting tickets to game 6.
Love going to bars for Steeler games. I’m still amazed at home many fans there are down there. And I don’t even go to the ‘Steeler bars’
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Only if he brings with him
the Bettmen’s seal of “no touch Crosby” as he’s the golden child with him.
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still smells like jealousy.
-David
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by pascaldupweevil on May 19, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t feed the troll (even if it is a Canes site) ;-)
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Call it what you will
be I remember reading the Pen’s blog spots when OV did his thing.
Damn, talk about wanting retribution.
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I called for his head after the game like everyone else, but after watching the replays a few times, each time slowly changing my mind, it wasn’t a dirty hit as much as it was an incidental hit. I shut up and quit crying, i’m sure the same will follow with all of you.
Good for you
How long did it take you to realize that?
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I'll trade that being a penalty for:
Eaton given a penalty
Cooke given a penalty
The BS call on Cole being interference being a goal
Gill given 2 minutes for diving on his goalie
The ’Canes taking Game 1
Oh yeah, two Pen’s players hurt in “accidental collisions” instead of Cole and Ruutu.
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I agree with the Eaton and Cooke plays. Not on the Cole. Also, watch the Kennedy break away. That’s textbook hooking and should have been given a penalty shot. The refs are too scared to call junk. Just horrible. The refs need to call what’s in the book, not flavor their calls because of the score.
Just being objective.
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the refs just realized that they were setting a dangerous precedent with the first three calls of the game. The two on the Canes and the one on the Pens were all three ridiculously touchy, and as a result, they swallowed the whistles for awhile. Thank god! If the whole game had been called that tight it would’ve been a long night.
Very true. The one I thought was the legit call was the second one (where he’s going into the boards when he’s going after the puck and gets hit from behind 10ft away from the boards and he’s going head first at said boards – kinda dangerous). The other two, I could have left them alone. If it leads to or prevents a scoring chance, or injures a player, make the call. Otherwise, I hope they leave it alone. Eaton and Cooke needed calls on them, as well as the Kennedy break away merits a call. Staal also was pretty sneaky with his.
I just want consistency. Too much to ask??
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yet seems to catch the team
the Pens are playing
Goddamn right I’m pissed.
I’m outa here to cool off
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So is $$$$$
I’ll be even more blunt.
The Pens are getting a free ride.
Many think it, save most Pens fans, and hell, if the ’Canes got such a ride, if Staal and Whitney were the “golden children of th eNHL”, I might not see it either.
Why is it that Crosby is so good? Maybe it’s the “Do not hit, fragile” the NHL has painted on his back.
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ugh. that old soap box is going to break soon.
-David
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by pascaldupweevil on May 19, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope the structure is sound
and it seems to be well developed as well.
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I always hate how the refs always make the calls on the team that is ahead. Or don’t make blatant calls. Just always seems so fishy. Be a man and make the correct calls, not ones just ‘to even it up’. I don’t really feel like they do that in football, so why in hockey?
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Caniacs would probably be happy to trade that goal for a healthy Cole and Ruutu.
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That's what I get for channel surfing.
I was watching the 24 seaon finale, and flipping back and forth to the Vs. coverage.
I managed to see all the goals, but missed these hits.
I hope they end up being alright.
Neither was really all that horrible. They both looked kinda sketchy too though. Hopefully they don’t miss any time and everyone has forgotten about this by Game 3.
by Iggy Reilly on May 19, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. Neither was ridiculously bad, but both were arguably dirty. Cooke I’m not surprised by (even though I don’t think it was intentional), but the Eaton hit was strange. He’s never been one to do anything remotely dirty.
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Eaton knew that he was going to hit him. Just not have it get all weird after…
by The Merovingian on May 19, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions
Update on your two injured forwards
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
Via the Coach’s mouth: Nothing new
As of noon. Wonder where TSN is getting that info?
I don't know but I usually read their stuff, it tends to be rather good info.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 19, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
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