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Carolina Loses Pond Hockey Game - Pens 7, Canes 4

The Carolina Hurricanes and Pittsburgh Penguins played wide open Thursday night and the home team took full advantage of some loose play in the Carolina zone to win game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals, 7-4. 

Sidney Crosby opened the scoring just 1:51 into the game, but his goal was answered by Chad LaRose, just one minute later.  Five minutes after that, Evgeni Malkin would score the first of his three goals on the night as he skated in from the bench untouched, but Jussi Jokinen knocked in a shot just 25 seconds later to tie the game once more.

Star-divide

Before the end of the period, Dennis Seidenberg flicked in a knuckling shot and the Hurricanes actually went into the first intermission with a 3-2 lead. 

The tide turned in the second period though as the Penguins out-shot the Hurricanes 16-6 and scored two more goals to take back the lead.   The Canes started out the period with some nice possession time, but once again did not put the puck on net enough to take advantage of their short-lived dominance. 

About midway through the period, Carolina had one of the most sought-after opportunities for a hockey team, a four on three advantage.  But due to soft passing and lack of movement, (and zero shots), the team squandered that golden opportunity and everything went downhill after that.

Patrick Eaves would tie the score 4-4, just two minutes into the final period because of a nice hustle play behind the net by Ryan Bayda.  It was his first goal of the postseason.  But it would be all Penguins after that, as Evgeni Malkin completed a hat-trick to put the game out of reach.  Once again the favorites outshot the Canes, (14-8) in the deciding period. 

Things got very chippy at the end, precipitated by a Ryan Bayda hit after an icing call.  Bayda ended up getting a match penalty for a "high stick intent to injure" and could be suspended depending upon the outcome of a mandatory review by the league.  Tim Gleason, Patrick Eaves, Miro Satan, and Kris Letang picked up fighting majors as frustration overcame discipline after the play. 

The Hurricanes will try to stop the bleeding when the two teams meet again for a must win game for Carolina in Raleigh on Saturday night.

Game Notes:

Carolina can not complain about the officiating in this game as the refs tried their best to swallow their whistles.  The Canes were horrible on the powerplay and would have been better off staying five-on-five.  Other than game 1 of this series, (1-2),  the powerplay has been invisible almost the entire postseason. 

Tuomo Ruutu must play if at all possible on Saturday.  The Pens are doing a great job of rolling four lines while the Hurricanes primarily go with three.  It seemed like the Canes ran out of gas in the third period again as the Pens were skating at will in the Carolina zone.  Patrick Eaves played all of three minutes, even though he scored a goal.  He was also on the ice during the fiasco in the final 1:02.  As I predicted, Dwyer and Bayda played about 4 minutes each and Jokinen moved to wing.  Craig Adams was low man on Pittsburgh with over 10 minutes of TOI.

For the record, I hate to see shenanigans like that at the end of a game.  If the Canes wanted to play it tough, they had all game to do it and they should have done it in front of their own net.  Bayda is not the first player to make a late hit in this series, but that was not a smart play at that time. 

Carolina needs to figure out who is coming off the bench for the Pens and get their own line changes in order.  They have allowed at least three goals in this series because of bad line changes. 

For all the talk before the series about Cam Ward being better than MA Fleury, Ward has yet to prove it.  You can't place all the blame at his feet, but he still needs to play better.  One analyst said that the goalie looks "shot".  He has been used non-stop for months now and had been top notch for a long period of time.  Can he keep it up or is he used up?  Ward will need to return to his best form at the RBC or the series will be over.

The Pens outshot the Canes 42-28 and now have a 73-53 two game total. 

Falling behind in the series by a  2-0 deficit is not how the Hurricanes wanted to return home, but the lead is not insurmountable.  Carolina fell behind Montreal 2-0 in 2006 and went to one of the toughest places in the NHL for a visitor to play, and swept the Habs.  The Pens fell behind the Caps 2-0 in the last series and came back to win.  This series is far from over, but the team has a lot of work to do.

 

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bad ending

to an otherwise great game. i dont think anybody who is a true fan of hockey likes to see what happened at the end of that game happen. it is what it is however. this was probably one of the more exciting games to watch for the first 50 minutes. realativly clean playing although both sides commited some stuff that should have been called. and then you had that episode where if either side looked at the other sideways the refs blew the whistle. but overall i agree that the refs did everything they could to keep things in check. great scoring by both sides. that canes team has a lot of heart and should be commended for it. i agree with your assesment also that they need to get the ice time balanced out. you could really tell at the end of the game the canes looked gassed completely. is there not anyone from albany that could come in and fill the ice time?

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by oldtimehockey09 on May 22, 2009 2:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully it won’t be needed. Hoping to see Ruutu see some ice time on Saturday. I doubt Ryan Bayda will be available after all that at the end. Someone will have to step in for him, but hopefully it won’t be Conboy unless they feel he can contribute in ways other than his willingness to put his face in front of someone’s knuckles.

Gonna be an interesting building on Saturday night.

by Iggy Reilly on May 22, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

What was “otherwise great” about that game???

Looked like playground ball to me…..

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was a better game

but not perfect.

Perfect games are when the ’Canes when and they have no injuries (nor cause them intentionally or in accidents).

0 down, 4 games to to win.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 7:14 AM EDT reply actions  

One last thing,

the debacle at the end. WTF was that?

When did the ’Canes start doing their impression of the Flyers?

The refs weren’t perfect, better, but still acting like goons is not what the ’Canes are about. If they needed a “boost”, losing 2 games in a row should be more than enough of an incentive.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

A bad day it was.. time to regroup and get ready for Saturday!!! Let’s go CANES!!!!!

by jenniwa30 on May 22, 2009 8:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I got to get that bumper sticker

after I get back in playing hockey of course

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

saving that one for my laptop wallpaper image!

by lrcaniac on May 22, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that you will see a change in the series

when it shifts back to RBC. The Canes will get better match ups and the crowd will provide a boost. But what looked troubling for the Canes in this game was the fact that you scored 4 goals and the Pens superstar(s) took over the game and made Ward look, as you suggested above in the story, tired and bewildered. He has to play better, and his defense needs to play better in the remainder of the series or it is lights out for the Canes.

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by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

STOP BEING SO FREAKING NICE!

I want to hate you and when you say things like that, I can’t.

You’ve hurt my feelings.

No wait, I don’t have those.

Carry on!

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot be subjective?

Maybe someone will come in and take one point of my post and turn it into a debate about how Pittsburgh is a niche, and we only like the Buccos.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Much better

thanks!

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy I could oblige

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by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

The second period...

…looked an awful lot like last year’s finals, that is, the red team spending so much time in the pens zone, with dmen and wingers trying to just chip the puck out of the zone.

goalie who can’t handle puck + defense that isn’t great defensively = bad.

good thing they’ve got 2 wins under the belt, because it’s going to be real hard to win 2 more, much less any games in raleigh…

by jeep99 on May 22, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Well all they need to do is win 1 in Raleigh

They have done it before and have been road warriors in the Playoffs.

Washington was a mad house and they won two games there. I wouldn’t be worried about the crowd factor. What worries me more is the matchups due to the last move you will get.

If the Pens can get one of two in Raleigh this series will be a tough one to win for the Canes.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t underestimate our crowd, our team, or our building at home…. Washington does not and will not compare….

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Washington has a good crowd and a very loud building. The Pens have played(and won) in Philadelphia which is a very raucous place to play.

A loud, “intimidating” building is nothing new for Pittsburgh to go on the road into.

But, if I may say, if you’re going to the games please boo Crosby every time he touches the puck. It, uh, really makes him back down and he won’t produce points at all if you boo him :)

by Hooks Orpik on May 22, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes the more you Boo the worse he plays

He won’t even want to go near the net or the puck if you boo, so boo whole heartedly.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

'Caniacs don't boo too often

we’re more into cheering on the team. We’re not the Leafs who boo at their own players.

However, Section 328 will say: “Fleury, Fleury, FLEURY; YOU SUCK” for some reason.

They’re also the group that yells in the game when an opposing player goes to the box: “CHEATERS NEVER WIN”.

Just FYI

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

The canes usually only boo Orpik, and that’s even died down some. No much reason to hate on Crosby. I think most Canes fans appreciate Crosby’s and Malkin’s talents

by kcljar on May 22, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Malkin, yes

the other thing, no.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think the orpick booing will be back in full force monday

many fans in the building are just learning about what happened with him and cole a few years back,
so they wil relish at the opourtunity to boo about somethign they know about…

by chrisj on May 22, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry to interject, but seriously? How can fans just now be finding out about the Cole/Orpik incident from 2006? Has there been a complete turnover in fans since the ’Canes won the cup in 2006???

by gorgalor on May 22, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Diddo

yea, boo Crosby. He always falls apart when fans do that!

I am not disrespecting the Canes fans at home but to suggest that you are superior to the Caps and Flyers is rediculous. I am not saying that are inferior, but I am saying they are not superior.

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

“I think it’s probably the loudest,” said the ex-Hurricane defenseman. “Montreal is loud. I think Carolina might be the loudest. The sound resonates in there. They cheer like they’re at a basketball game. They’re up the entire time. They’re pretty energetic.”

Boston Globe

I can find more if you want.

by Iggy Reilly on May 22, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

And we could find just as many about Philly...

Asked if Wachovia Center(Philly) has the loudest crowd in the NHL, Crosby said, “Washington’s making its way up there. I’d say they’re the top two.”

What is your point? They are all aggressive, all loud, and except for RBC have been conquered by the Pens in this playoff season. I still believe the matchups will be more important than your crowd.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carolinaeasy

Just to let you know, it seems that the guys on the Pen’s board don’t like it when someone has the audacity to bring up something about the ’Canes and rooting for them.

I enjoy your conversation as you’re not oldtimerhockey telling me what the ruling is (the rules he quotes are real, how he sees it on the ice is completely, er, IMNSHO wrong). Hell he keeps responding to quotes I made after I said adios.

So please no cheering on the Pens as we need to keep it fair.

That and you’ll hurt my feelings.

Thank you for your understanding.

;-D

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

when the crowd noise suits up and scores a goal then i worry about the crowd

by JasonGoPens on May 22, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Game 6, Devils vs 'Canes

we started cheering in the third period when the ’Canes were behind.

The ’Canes fed off of that and, well, won.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya i’m sure eric staal said oh my the crowd is loud, i guess they want us to win, hey guys let’s win this one since the crowd wants it… the only place crowd noise makes a difference is in football and only because it makes it hard to hear the snap count.

by JasonGoPens on May 22, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should probably ask Eric Staal before you speak for him……

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should probably get a grip on sports reality

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow… that hurt my feelings…. I don’t have a grip on sports reality… I think I’ll go back into my damned cave now….

ooooohhhhhh…….. scary!!!!!

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

why must you cuss every post

I mean there are better words and I surely hope you can use them to keep this place a respectable forum.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should have left the 2nd part off, it was a lot funnier with just the 1st part

by kcljar on May 22, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah thats just a dumb thing to say jason.
of course you cant treat the crowd noise like a actual human being,
but your an idiot if you think it doesnt effect the teams.

by chrisj on May 22, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d even say leave the Pens completely out of it. Who cares how it affects them. It WILL be a lift for the Canes though.

by Iggy Reilly on May 22, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

You think that the crowd yelling is going to stop us from scoring and/or making you score more, but i’m an idiot. We’ll see how loud the RBC is when you bench Cam Ward because he is screwing the pooch in this series.

by JasonGoPens on May 22, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course not

The crowd yelling by itself will have no effect on the Pens’ scoring chances.

What it will do is pump up the ‘Canes’ “D” to actually step up and do that particular job!

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t think anyone is underestimating anything.

you’ve been to playoff games in DC?

by jeep99 on May 22, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe not you and carolinaeasy

but from the other blogs, oh yes they are.

But I have called upon Cthulhu who will correct everything.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate you imploring the elder god to eat the team last, but I don’t really see how that helps us out now.

=)

by Raccoon Fink on May 22, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if HE eats them

or just a few, problem solved.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he's eating them...

There’s not much time for hockey. ;)

by Raccoon Fink on May 22, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No… but if the two of you are going to discuss how much of a non-factor our home crowd is going to be then you need to do it on Shittsburghs boards… not here….

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spelled it wrong

it’s B-L-I-T-Z-B-U-R-G-H

as in drinking.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sixburgh, City of Champions get it right

by JasonGoPens on May 22, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that was Boston.....

You know, the Red Sox, Patriots, Celtics, Bruins.

Er, scratch the last two.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

red Sox – steroids, patriots – video taping cheaters, celtics ok but they pretty much bought that championship and you took care of the bruins.

by JasonGoPens on May 22, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

My point exactly

gloating angers the gods.

I know as they speak to me.

Send your tax deductible donations and gifts to:

1313 Mockingbird Lane, Anytown USA 666

And I’ll put in a good word for you.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been to Shitsburgh twice… my first and last time… I’m allergic to funk….

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many Cups do the Canes have? (1)
How many Cups do the Pens have? (2)
How many Super Bowl titles do the Panthers have? (0)
How many Super Bowl titles do the Steelers have? (6)
How many World Series Titles does, oh wait there is no MLB in Raleigh
How many World Series Titles do the Pirates have, seriously I don’t know because I just don’t care about the Bucs.
And neither city has an NBA championship.

Sorry Canes fans, you don’t get to talk trash about championship cities.
Pittsburgh 8 – Raleigh 2 (not including baseball)

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bet the Durham Bulls could beat the Pirates……so there!

by Iggy Reilly on May 22, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

we should make a list of other teams that can beat the Pirates. How about my beer-league softball team. Pirates SUCK!!!

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

NC state isn’t helping you out much.

(oh snap!)

by Iggy Reilly on May 22, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

NC State has teams?

Oh yeah, those Wolf Pups or something like that.

Helps the Blue Devils, Deacons and Tarheels run up a score and raise in the standings.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should know that pro and college sports are two different animals, thus I find it unfitting to compare them. I guess you want to bring up Duke and UNC? I think PItt did some damage in the 70’s and with there being a lot of PSU fans in the burgh I bet they want a say. Nonetheless, we are talking pro sports.

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pitt has 11 national football championships

that is as many as Nebraska; more than Miami, Texas, FSU, LSU; and only 5 less then the entire ACC (sans Miami who won all of theirs before jumping ship from the Big East).

by Rougue_Behaviorist on May 22, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

So living off the glories of victories past?

I can see why the Pens need to win. I think that is so sweet. Not going to happen.

OBTW in SuperBowls XL and XLIII which by the way I was rooting for the Steelers in both games.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what’s the cutoff in years that we can no longer talk about a championship, just curious since they apparently don’t matter after a certain amount of time, which is what you imply.

by JasonGoPens on May 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No time

but it’s all the Pens have and most likely will ever have.

I wish the Pens luck when the Golden Boy is no longer a part of your team, then I’ll curse the team that picked him up. Even if it’s the ’Canes.

I don’t ever want to think the ‘Canes got a free ride because the NHL put a "Don’t touch, Fragile" on the Golden One’s back.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep that’s right do not touch, all that work fixing games and making sure the Pens make it to the finals would be for nothing if thier golden boy isn’t playing, makes sense to me.

by JasonGoPens on May 22, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bitterness is strong in this one (lcd2you) Why hate Crosby so much? Wait, I already know. Its the same reason why I hate Tom Brady so much, he is everything I am not.

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Sid the Kid" as presented by the NHL

is something Sydney Crosby is not.

Malkin is the real great one on the Pens.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

We Have Another Gribble Sighting!

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by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, my city won the Super Bowl this year, what on Earth are you talking about “living off of glories past?” I am living it now baby! What will be even better is when the Pens get the Cup and the Pirates set the record for worst franchise in sporting history. If they finish under 500 this year that is 17 straight seasons and a new record. Please God, I don’t ask for much!!!

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the Steelers

I was giving them a pass

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha!

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one about the cups is valid...

But let’s keep it to sports that are actually interesting here. ;)

by Raccoon Fink on May 22, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pirates 5 World Series titles.

So it is:

Piitsburgh 13

Carolina 2

Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"

by SteelersChatPack on May 23, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The pens have proven they can win in hostile environments

therefore your crowd does not concern me as much as the matchups do.

Sorry, but the Pens, like the Canes, are a playoff tested team who is one year removed from the SCFs, crowds are not the first thing I get concerned about on the road.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

So have the 'Canes

See Boston, see Newark and while it’s been delayed, see Pittsburgh.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I gave you credit for past road victories.
Sorry, but the Pens, like the Canes, are a playoff tested team

But you have yet to win in the Burgh in these playoffs.

And the delays will continue in Raleigh if I am not mistaken because of Elmo.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's fine

as for the ’Canes winning in Pittsburgh, that will happen as many times as it needs to.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love your cockiness

It is what makes you a good fan.

But this is a long series and rather than make claims we have no ability to influence why don’t we offer some good insight into the games.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

What else am I supposed to do?

“Fair weather” fans feel that when their team goes down 0-2, the thrash and scream, “That’s it. Game over. GAME OVER MAN”, and then go and jump back on when they start winning.

That is what I loved about SOME of the Bruin’s fans, the ones who didn’t throw players under the bus. Calling a player out is one thing, talking about dumping them is another.

As to discussing it more, later. Right now I’m just enjoying myself.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair weather fan?

IS that what I am?

I don’t want to get into how many practices I have watched in the past 10 years. PRACTICE I ain’t even talking about the game man, PRACTICE, we be talking about PRACTICE!

I guess I got on the band wagon as a 4 year old and never really got off, even in the dark years pre-lockout.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't call you that.

Honest.

I’m referring to myself as I was called that earlier.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU! I was trying to figure out how to phrase what I feel about this guy, but you said it perfectly.

If I want to listen to ignorant and cocky sports fans who think they could have been a professional athlete if it weren’t for something beyond their control I would go to a sports bar.

I come to blogs to have intelligent conversations with knowledgeable fans who have a grip with reality while still rooting for their home team.

I said it before, I hate the Flyers, Rangers, and Caps, but I respect their fans because they know the game. I don’t care about the Canes and this cockiness makes it hard to respect the fan base.

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pshhhh.

Get real, the whole fan base cause you don’t like one guy on the internet? Don’t throw out garbage like that. It is just as ridiculous.

Maybe someday the Canes fanbase can validate their existence in your eyes.

by Iggy Reilly on May 22, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the rest of us 'Caniacs should care

if his opinion is good why?

I’m unsure why we need his validation. Oh, that’s right we don’t.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

if my opinion means so little, why respond to it?

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I responded to Iggy Reilly

I just responded to you.

Don’t worry, that won’t happen again.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t care about the Canes and this cockiness makes it hard to respect the fan base.

That is an awful generalization, you think???

by jenniwa30 on May 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

As one who is "cocky"

no, I’m supporting my team.

I believe they can do. I know they can play much better. I think they will take it to the Penguins.

Otherwise I’m fair weather and that is far worse.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

like lemmings off the cliff

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talking about Pens fans are you?

Well, please keep up with the rest of them. You don’t want to be last.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are right, and I am sorry

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummmmm….. So there really weren’t a whole bunch of good points about that game….

A team like the Hurricanes can’t try to play like a team like the Penguins against the Penguins and expect to win…..

If the Hurricanes play the way THE HURRICANES play then they will win…. no questions… But if they try to skate around w/ the Pens…. especially on defense…. Tuesday night will be the last game we see at home for a while….

Hopefully the coaches… JR… SOMEBODY will show the boys the video of last nights game… let our guys see how horrible they look in their own end…. and FIX IT!!!!

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

One's going to lose

when your defense doesn’t show up.

WTF happened to Gleason? Corvo too?

Was Kaberle one of the best defensive guys we had last night?

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know…. but I do know that if someone doesn’t put Malkin on his ass in the next game (every time he is on the ice) then I’m going to be PISSED!!!!!

And while I’m on top of it…. I’m tired of seeing his f-ing parents on the TV… To hell w/ the Staal drinking game… let’s play the Malkins paren’ts from whatever part of hell he comes from drinking game….

his dad was doing his best Crosby impersonation by crying and all… that was impressive….

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder what your thoughts would be

if you watched your son score a hat trick in a major game, after coming from a former Communist country. You don’t know what sacrafices they made as parents. Flaming a father for being proud of his son is rather low brow of you and you should be ashamed.

I hope you have children who make you so proud you cry someday sir.

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by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fine… but they don’t have to show it on the f*ciking television EVERY TIME he scores… that’s a little too much for my poor little week non-sports-realist heart can take….

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

they escaped the horrors of Russia and now are living the good life in the crowd watching thier son make millions so they never have to work again. It’s the feel good story of the year.

by JasonGoPens on May 22, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I don’t give a shit to watch it on the television…. I’ll watch the history channel if I want to think about the USSR….

Didn’t they know that we have our own form of communism in the USA now????

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well our friend doesn't understand that most fans feel a little compassion for the story

He probably was complaining about John Challis being on the TV last year too.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like Crosby, getting in Malkin’s face makes him scared and he runs away. Are you serious? Did you watch that game? It was only after Malkin got ran TWICE did he start playing like a man possessed.

Sorry buddy, violence is not always, if ever, the answer. The Canes do not have a solution that is the Malkin/Crosby problem.

Also, no love for the Malkin’s getting a better life? I think I know who you voted for president

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that is American Sports

Remember the Fiesta Bowl a few years ago when Notre Dame and Ohio State played? They showed AJ Hawks sister (I might have this backwards) in the half and half jersey because she was dating Brady Quinn.

These things are happening more and more in sports. It isn’t Geno’s fault, and an outpouring of emotion after a great play is not wrong.

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by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t Walker “put Malkin on his ass” in the second period, and then LaRose decided to get in a tussle with him. And it was pretty soon after that Malkin went nuts.

I think a better strategy might be to not knock him around, but lull him to sleep.

by Rougue_Behaviorist on May 22, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

like i said earlier, i think the penguins defense was showing up last night, a scary thought. jstu have to keep forcing carolina’s defense not to show up…

by jeep99 on May 22, 2009 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

jstu is not an acronym. just lousy typing….

by jeep99 on May 22, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Penguins Defense did not show up…. 4 goals wins most hockey games…..

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Penguins Defense did not show up…. 4 goals wins most hockey games…..

I agree, the Penguins need to play better defensively…They were allowing a lot of bodies and pucks to the front of the net for the first two goals and Letang had a terrible clearing attempt right to Seidenberg’s stick for the 3rd goal (there were Canes in front of Fleury for that goal too).

Pittsburgh needs to do better from keeping the Carolina forwards away from the net…Easier said than done.

by Hooks Orpik on May 22, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a hurricanes fan this is what gives me hope…. because I know that our guys can play better defense….

I’m assuming that your guys can too…. but I don’t care so much about them…..

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that the 'Canes "D"

is better than the Caps “D” and look what happen there. Not that I think that the ’Canes “D” has been over-rated, even the mighty Bruins got burned for 4 goals.

I just hope they get back to the style and play that I know they are fully capable of.

As for the ‘Canes’ “O”, if they can score on Thomas/Chara/Ward and Brodeur, they should continue that vs the Pens.

The ‘Canes’ “D” is at issue here.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Pens never scored 7 goals against the Caps “D”

by Rougue_Behaviorist on May 22, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

which is why I’m so mad at them.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see how one can have hope when the Pens don’t play D well, which they normally do, and still win. I know the Pens are known for O, but D got them to the Finals last year and has carried them to where they are this year. The Pens are not playing their best and are still up 2-0. I wouldn’t be too hopeful if I were you.

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by Dr Tre on May 22, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i still think they did. and they are shaky. that’s why they gave up 4 goals.

by jeep99 on May 22, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

If giving up 4 goals is a good night for your defense then I have no more worries about the direction this series is going to take….

Maybe YOU should get a grip on YOUR sports reality…..

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That comment really hit home there pal.

Don’t take it so seriously it was an offhand comment, made tongue in cheek.

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by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whaaaaa????

I was just giving it back to you guys like you gave it to me….

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

it’ll be all good once the series is over… I’ll love you guys like you were my next door neighbor…. or something….

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

umm, i’ll say this again.

i think the pens defense is shaky. not quite stinks, but close.

so i am not surprised to see them give up four goals or let carolina dominate the zone so much in the 2nd period. they tend to be sloppy in their own end.

i’m trying to be critical of the pens here. i’m not trying to say “we can give up 4 goals and beat you anyway.” is that how you are reading this?

by jeep99 on May 22, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well they shut down Ovechkin when they had to do so.

I am not overly concerned with their potential, I am concerned with their performance, they need to play better and can.

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by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

The issue is that the 'Canes

do have more scores than the Caps.

The Caps are basically a one man show where OV takes three times as many shots and scores twice s many goals.

The ’Canes do not have the star power of the Pens, but they do have a far more balanced attack over the entire team.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Caps have a pretty good set of scorers

That isn’t necessarily a good assessment.

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by carolinaeasy on May 22, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Caps play in our division…. we understand…. they aren’t as good as they seem….

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Once you get into the Caps

then everything goes to OV. It’s only when the Caps are up that there’s more scoring.

The Caps game plan is simple. OV gets the puck and he’s supposed to score.

What happens is when they go up, the guys who would normally pass to OV see that their opponent has 2 or 3 guys on or near OV. Then they score and the effect dominoes. That is how they “pad” their numbers.

As MCL states, we see them often.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

do the canes have more scorers than the caps? no way.

do the canes have a more balanced attack than the pens? i could see where you would say that. fair enough.

by jeep99 on May 22, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

As I stated though

when the Caps get behind, they pass everything to OV no matter how many people are in his way, hanging off of him or if he’s sitting on the bench.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love the scoring depth / balance attack argument. I hear it all the time, as ’Canes fans are so quick to point out, look at the posts of our previous opponents.

At least the Flyers had a half-dozen or so 20 goal scorers (something that hadn’t happened for 20 or so years), so if scoring depth was going to be the Pens Achilles heel, then it seems that it would have bit them then.

by Rougue_Behaviorist on May 22, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 'Canes also sucked hard

up until the All Star break.

Hard to make it up in numbers when you were doing so badly.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pens were even worse than the Canes; they still put up numbers

by Rougue_Behaviorist on May 22, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

How could Malkin get of the bench, skate right up to Cam and put the puck in without even being looked at, let alone not being touched by a single Canes player???? No a good night for the defense at all

by kcljar on May 22, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I know….. I wanted to hit him myself…. after I hit all of our players who were on the ice…. What the hell was that?

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on May 22, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was almost like Gleason was mesmerized, paralyzed, frozen? he just stood there!!! I wanted to reach through the TV and smack him!!!

by jenniwa30 on May 22, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

the way this board works....

…is a beautiful thing.

the layout of replies, composing replies within the thread, the refreshing. i love it.

very, very well done.

by jeep99 on May 22, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

the creators of SB Nation did a heck of a job with that feature, for sure.

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by Bob Wage on May 22, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Gotta say, this is the most usable blog-commenting system I’ve ever seen.

by Raccoon Fink on May 23, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

agree totally … we can take no credit. They could get more page hits by not having the auto update, but instead went for a great reader-friendly version. I, personally, love it.

by Cory Lavalette on May 22, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

did anyone else think that benenati and whoever the color guy was last ngith were really just loving the pens.
the game was 44 halfway through the third,
but you wouldnt have known it from the commentating.
it was all pittsburg last night as far as they were concerned,
and we even while we controlled certain stretches of play
anybody?

by chrisj on May 22, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Ummm, Versus was UNBEARABLE last night. I had to mute it around that time in the third. It was pretty painful to listen to those guys last night.

by Iggy Reilly on May 22, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

glad to hear i wasnt the olny one.

by chrisj on May 22, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I though for a minute Tripp was texting them a script! :)

by jenniwa30 on May 22, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Versus is pretty much always unbearable.

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by pascaldupweevil on May 22, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couln’t tell you, I watched the TV and listend to Chuck on line. If John Forslund was announcing I would have listened.

By the way, if anyone else does this, if you listen to online, use the Canes web site rather than the 99.9 web site. The canes site is only about 4-6 seconds behind..99.9 is closer to 20 seconds.

by kcljar on May 22, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

thnasi always wonder about that
but sometimes with the long delay on 99.9 site, and can get my dvr right on it

by chrisj on May 22, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait,

there’s sound with VS?

I just turn on Kaitlin and say screw the VS cheerleaders.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bubba and cory, whats your trueful take and evgeni’s backhand “masterpiece” last night that benenati had a field day with.

i kinda think its a little over hyped.
in my opinion, its a low percentage shot, that just happened to find the back of the net.
if he misses that shot, the coach is wondering why he took it, especially up top.

or maybe its just how angry it made me combined with my fan bias…

by chrisj on May 22, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought it was the best goal of the postseason. Ward can’t be faulted at all b/c that’s an unstoppable shot. I can’t even fathom being able to elevate a backhand like that. When was the last time you saw a guy score on a backhand shot in consecutive games (and not a deke … but a shot). Immensely talented.

by Cory Lavalette on May 22, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over hyped??? Did you see it? He has got some mad skills.

by jenniwa30 on May 22, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was an awesome shot. While even Malkin admitted he was a bit “lucky”, you have to give it to him for making a perfect shot.

Seidenberg has to have his stick on Malkin’s stick there, otherwise you’re asking for trouble.

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by Bob Wage on May 22, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Many things about the Pens were over-hyped in that game, but Malkin’s shot was not one of them. It was a hell of a hilight reel shot, and will be remembered for a long time.

by Raccoon Fink on May 23, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let Babchuck Play!

He started over Kaberle for most of the season, his shot from the point is the best on the team, let him play.

by CanesFanFromLI on May 22, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Malkin will score the first ever two point goal if he ever runs up against Babchuck the way he has been skating lately.

They looked like a whole group of Babchucks out there defensively, I don’t think the huge shot from the point would’ve been a game breaker last night. Hell, we even got a goal from the blueline without Babchuck in.

by Iggy Reilly on May 22, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Malkin will score the first ever two point goal if he ever runs up against Babchuck the way he has been skating lately.

That’s funny.

by Cory Lavalette on May 22, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Sad And True

Babchuk was looking far too lost.

Kaberle is at least no worse, mostly likely better, than what I saw from #6 and #77 last night.

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the third period we flubbed two A1 scoring chances from our defensemen, The first a broken stick that lead to a Penguin goal the other way (was that Kaberle?), another one a little later where we just missed the puck, those could have been two goals.

On our 4 on 3 we didn’t even take the shot. Babchuck would’ve taken the shots from the point, even if it was blocked it still would have done some damage, if you know what I mean!

by CanesFanFromLI on May 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My quick take on the series so far is that the other two zones of the ice have been rendered totally irrelevant by the Canes inability to keep their heads on straight in their own zone. It has been a pretty abysmal display of defensive hockey, and I am wondering where our D corps are hiding that handled the numerous goal scorers of Boston well, and shut down Zach Parise in the end.

Putting Babchuck in the lineup does nothing to remedy the play in the Canes own end.

by Iggy Reilly on May 22, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if we gain or lose anything defensively by playing Babchuck, I do know for sure that we gain another potential scorer, especially on the power play.

This is what I see as our biggest problem on defense, and I’m guessing its more of a team stategy rather than the fault of any particular defensement. When the other team has the puck in our zone we allow them to control the perimeter, along the boards and behind the net, we don’t challenge the other team enough. We are staying in front of the goal, but allowing the other team the time and space to move the puck along the boards. This happened with the Devils and Bruins as well. I think the Penguins have caught on to it and are exploiting it. Hopefully Maurice will have the team make the neccesary adjustment.

by CanesFanFromLI on May 22, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 'Canes strategy is to collapse to the front of the goal

perhaps they are being a wee bit too proactive?

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by lcd2you on May 22, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes! Exactly!

When we do this, it make it look like the other team has a power play. We have five players in a small cirlce in front of the goal, leaving lots of room around the sides and the points for the other team to move the puck around.

We have to start battling along the boards in our defensive zone, its the only way.

by CanesFanFromLI on May 22, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully we have laid our “egg” for this series and can rebound back……

by lrcaniac on May 22, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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