Things Could be Worse
by Bob Wage on May 25, 2009 4:55 PM EDT
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The Carolina Hurricanes are on the verge of being eliminated as they have fallen into a 3-0 abyss against the all-powerful Pittsburgh Penguins in this year's Eastern Conference Finals. Some Canes fans are upset. Some are disappointed. Some are downright demoralized.
But things could always be worse, Caniacs.
Remember back in 2002-03? The Canes suffered one injury after another, to the point of calamity. One of the franchise's winningest and most popular goaltenders ended up being banished to the ECHL. The highlight of the season was watching the new kids from Lowell score their first ever NHL goals. The Hurricanes finished dead last in the NHL that year, and scored the fewest goals in modern NHL history.
Suddenly with some perspective, being down 3-0 in the conference finals isn't so bad after all. If the Canes do lose Tuesday night, (which is not a given, regardless what Pens fans will tell you), ending up as the fourth best team in the NHL is nothing to hang your head about.
I could spout off statistics about how Cam Ward has never lost an NHL playoff series. I could tell you that the Canes are undefeated in previous elimination games this postseason. I could tell you that the Carolina franchise has won more playoff games in this decade than any other franchise besides Detroit. All of these facts are meaningless, regarding this particular game. The only thing that matters is that the players need to come out on Tuesday night and play the best hockey game of their lives.
The odds will be against them. The league office will be against them. The rest of the NHL will be against them. If the Pens don't close out the series Tuesday, it throws the television schedule for the SCF's into a malady and nobody wants to wait over a week to watch the Stanley Cup Finals. (Conspiracy theorists will love the television scheduling angle).
But it's funny how quickly things can change in hockey. Remember last year, when the press roasted "Geno" Malkin for being a no show in the finals against Detroit? "Loyal" fans were quick to throw him under the bus as well. Now, his parents are even celebrities as Versus shows the beaming couple gushing during every stoppage in play.
A couple of weeks ago in New Jersey, the Canes were as much as left for dead because they were losing with just a minute and change left in game 7 against the "greatest goalie in NHL history". The announcers on Versus were singing the praises of how great a team the Devils were and wondering how they would match up against Boston. But then a hockey miracle happened. Do the Hurricanes have any more miracles in them?
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I sure as heck hope they do!!
As much as I wanted to sell my ticket for tomorrow after sitting through the disaster known as game 3…me and my supersticions will be there cheering them on as loud as ever!
GO CANES!!!! WE LOVE YOU!
Maybe my appearance on here after being mia for such a long while will help with the luck too ;-)
It could be worse:
“And Brodeur in the net the ’Canes move the along the outside.
Gleason shoots the puck in, blocked, Gleason to his knees, the puck slides through into neutral ice, 1:20 to go in the 3rd period with the clock winding down….."
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THANK YOU!!! I am proud of what we have done this season regardless of the outcome of this series…….WE removed 2 of the top teams in our conference, and still have players ready to step up next year…….all I will add is if we do not make it be gracious to the winners (yes it will be hard listening to the crowing!) and keep supporting this team!
Nice run regardless
The Canes gave us a solid playoff run. I hope they can pull of the impossible, we are talking about the Cardiac Canes, I wouldn’t be suprised.
Witness the 08-09 miracle. Go Canes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw him play when I was in college in western PA. It was pretty cool to see a former great for $5 and $1 premium beers!
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great? you do realize that they are talking about irbe dont you
by brass bonanza on May 26, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey
Did I miss anything?
Couldn’t see the final score, too many tears. Oh well, “C’ess la Pool”.
It’s been a good run and while I’d like it to continue, it’s been great. Nobody outside the Caniac Nation, save Melrose, thought the ’Canes would get past the Devils. The ’Canes were supposed to be dead meat to the mighty Bruins.
Yeah, I think still that the ‘Canes can beat any team in the league and I’d like to see them take 4 straight from the Pens, starting tomorrow.
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OBTW, I have an extra ticket for tomorrow
Is anyone interested in buying it?
You’ll have to sit next to me, that is a major downside.
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Still have that extra ticket
It’s a Mezzanine seat from the end of the rink where the ’Canes are going to shoot twice.
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Before I get slammed for saying this… I KNOW IT’S COMING…
Can we break down the canes and thier opponents in the play offs?
Devils – Devils had a good team with a hall of fame goaltender but they lacked defense, I am not saying the Devils are an easy team by far, The Hurricanes came in left them in shambles, They took them which was no easy task. Devils have goaltending and offense and not much on the D. People will complain that the Devils use the “trap” but they ran into a well oiled machine in the canes, and a hot Cam Ward
Bruins – If history teaches us anything, Tim Thomas has what it takes in the regular season but in the play offs hes a head case. Once you figure him out it’s all she wrote. Montreal finnished them in round 1 last year and the canes took both the devils and bruins to 7 games. on defense they have chara who is ALOT worse in the play offs than hal gill is, Hal gill is 7 feet tall but is like a 5 year old on skates.
This series aside, IF by some miracle you get past the pens… Detroit will end you fast. I am not a detroit fan, but they roll 4 lines of fire power, you think your defense is soft now? Try putting this defense agaisnt Holmstrom who parks his fat ass right in front of the net. The defense allows Osgood to only face about 25-30 shots a night because he gives up about 3-4 goals on that, you think Cooke, Orpik, Eaton and some others are goons? The hurting they will put on the canes would be like hell on earth. I am not saying DET will win the cup again, but if you are getting undressed not only by Malkin and Crosby, but Guerin, Fedotenko, Gill even got one in, and others, pens may 3 rolls line it looks like but det’s list of players and thier left wing lock, so i doubt the canes can beat any team in the NHL
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You're welcome to your opinion
I’m looking forward to the ’Canes surprising you.
In any case, if the ‘Canes don’t make it, I look forward to the Pens getting their ass handed to them by the Wings.
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Everyone is, and I am not saying it is over, but I guess you would hop on the Wings bandwagon and follow the dirtiest team in hockey.
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Had the 'Canes lost to the Devils
I would have rooted for the Devils vs anybody
I would have rooted for the Bruins over the Pens.
I would root for the Hawks or Wings, hell anyone over Crosby.
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Well if it ends up Pens/Wings I look forward to a tough contest. I think it’ll be harder than maybe some Pens fans think, but I for one hope we’re not in for another Red Wings cup this year.
Detroit is a VERY tough team… and I do not want a Red Wings victory this season… Wings fans claim that they are the best hockey team in all of hockey… and dismiss Montreal’s 24 cups.
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
FACT: Canes have 5 scorers with 55 points between them
WITHOUT Crosby and Malkin the Pens have 5 other players with 56 points between them.. so I guess the pens have more than 2 good goal scorers
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I am saying that the pens have a better chance than Carolina does… The ducks have taken them to 7 games. which if you look at the sheets the Ducks are a better club stastically and more physically than Carolina is.
Pens edge the ducks out by far… Carolina in the finals would look like the Chicago Det series
I can't root for the Pens
or any other team that has Crosby.
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Its not like he invented the nickname.
by PittsburghCaniac on May 26, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Do they ever note that
I give full marks to Malkin?
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doesn’t make the use of it any less lame.
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by pascaldupweevil on May 26, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is it so hard for anyone to give the Penguins any credit?
Why can’t you give Crosby any credit? The kid has skill, so your team lost the draft lottery… So he’s the face of the game, everyone claims he’s the “golden boy” and he has a no touch rule… Everyone takes shots at him on the ice. The kid was breaking records at a young age in Canada. The Media blows things out of porportion and because of some people who suck at announcing hockey AKA VERSUS and NBC’s crew you hop on the I HATE SID bandwagon.
In a phrase.....
I think the Pens are handed things to them because they want “Cid the Kid”.
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The Pens get tons of credit. We don’t dislike Crosby because we think he’s not actually good. That’s obvious. He’s a sore loser and it’s annoying. I have all the respect in the world for Malkin because he can be respectful and doesn’t take cheap shots. And as much as I hate Ovenchicken, at least he’s got heart and will play through anything.
Show me a clip of sid being a sore loser…. I would like to see proof.
AO has heart?!?! AO sits at the blue line and waives for the puck… AO has more shots than anyone in the NHL with a 9.4% shooting percetange. And if you watch he head hunts Charges and tends to take out players…
Sid is the most humble player I have seen since Mario or Gretz.
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Orlando, I respecty your opinion, but I definitely have to disagree with you here. Its not necessarily Crosbys reputation with Canes fans, moreover, it is his reputation around the league- most fans and players outside of Pittsburgh find him quite annoying. Given a choice, I would take OV over him any day of the week. He doesnt have the help in DC that Crosby has- I am sure that had OV had Malkin running next to him on powerplays he would have had at least 10 more points this season.
As requested, please find a few clips below.
1) He had the vote for being the biggest whiner-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3atOIUzMb0&NR=1
2) He does dive fairly well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg8rSMVJyEw&feature=related
3) And there are compilations of his whining
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_yhEaj1fCo&feature=related
by PittsburghCaniac on May 25, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
PS: Regarding statistics, Mark Madden spoke about Ron Francis up here on the radio. Francis said that he could have won even more faceoffs, but sometimes you do not want to show the other center your best moves when it doesnt matter- you wait for the right time and sometimes give up the meaningless faceoffs. Numbers are numbers, they are a measuring tool, but not necessarily indicative of the players total performance. A stat is just a stat. OV puts the puck on the net every chance he gets- because on his team, he doesnt have much of a choice.
by PittsburghCaniac on May 25, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
is it 1986? because you’re turning this into the old gretzky/lemieux argument.
go ahead and take AO over him any day, and enjoy watching a coasting, puck/shift hog, that can fire a laser. AO is great, best goal scorer in the league without a doubt, but he is not the all-around talent that Crosby is. he’s tough in the corners, goes to the front of the net, one of the best passers in the game, and, he may be the most competitive guy in the game.
and by the way, the caps had 4 guys finish with 70+ points, the pens had 2.
pot calling kettle black moment
He’s a sore loser and it’s annoying.
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by oldtimehockey09 on May 26, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Handed? what has been handed to them? I don’t see Sid the Kid with the Calder… I don’t see Sid the Kid with 4 trophies (in both cases AO). I don’t see sid the kid with a cup ring on his finger.
Every person on the ICE with the “A” or the “C” is allowed to talk to the refs, he gets alot of face time on TV and EVERYONE says he CRIES to the REFS….. Mike Richards in Philly cries and Dives more than Sid ever did
BUT if you want to be a big name and get all the tv time, then you also get all the attention for crying. Comes with it.
too bad Erik Cole isnt a star… hes just a crying victim
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Have someone fracture a few bones in your neck
see how you can come back.
Yeah, you can keep Oprik too.
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Gary Roberts broke his neck in 95… since his comeback I have yet to see him CRY and play the victim.
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
How about John Cullen having half his lung removed from cancer and coming back to make the roster in Tampa? Koivu, Lemieux (playing after getting chemo and radiation, a bad back so bad he couldnt lace his skates), Kessel…. I don’t see those guys crying the victim
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonderful
So Cole’s a crybaby.
Is there extra room for him on the Pens?
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If the Pens took him, they’d make him look like a star… putting him on the ice with Crosby will elevate his game…. Need Proof?
SATAN who came in to this series without a play off goal since 02
Guerin who at 38 filled the spot for Hossa and has 1 more point than Hossa
The list goes on…
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
And Carolina was the one who gave him his chance to make a comeback. Now tone it down.
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
3 years ago
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by oldtimehockey09 on May 26, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Get all the TV time? How many ECF games has NBC shown again?
I get tired of all the Crosby-bashing. It’s not warranted. Canes fans are classier than that.
by Dalliquippa on May 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
My last post on the subject
I think like all “superstars”, the reason why I stopped watching the travesty that is the NBA, they get away with a lot. They can charge in, no call. They get looked at sideways, they other player gets a penalty.
Honestly, I don’t want anybody like Crosby on the ’Canes. I would never be sure if the ’Canes earned it or were given the game.
GO ’CANES!
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You cannot just get disgruntled and tell Icd2you that he knows nothing about hockey- because he knows quite a bit. Crosby IS a FANTASTIC PLAYER!!! There is no doubt about that- its just that around the league, many fans and players dislike him. I understand why Pens fans love the guy- and you should- he has done wonders for your franchise- and the NHL. But, that doesnt mean that everyone else has to like him. It would be difficult for any hockey fan to claim that he wasnt throwned a King before he stepped on the ice for the first time. But given the state of the NHL at the time he came in, you cannot blame the NHL for doing so either- at some point they needed to get people in seats, and Crosby sure helped do that around the league. Personally, I cannot stand the guy, but, I cannot blame either your team or the NHL for promoting him to the level that they have- it was necessary at the time.
by PittsburghCaniac on May 26, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
now that’s a fair assessment! i understand non-pens fans hating him.
but when you break it down to “I would never be sure if the ’Canes earned it or were given the game”, well, i think that’s pretty pathetic.
do you really think the pens are “given” games because crosby plays for them?
I do.....
When the defense gets its hands tied because if they were to actually do something like, oh defend him, the threshold for a penalty goes down.
That “opens up” other players as the defenders double team the “star” just to keep them in check and not taking a penalty.
The result? Close games are won and lost in those situations.
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i totally disagree, but at least i can try to make sense of where you’re coming from here, not just more lame nickname posts.
and i shouldn’t say i totally disagree, i guess. i think there’s a giant gap between a team “given” games because of a player and a player who is good at drawing penalties by going into high traffic areas, thus “handcuffing” the defense. i believe it’s the latter…
that is a reasonable response
as well.
I can fully understand where you can see that it is the speed and skill of Crosby and Malkin that create the “time and space” that then collapses into a blackhole and sucks the life out of the Carolina “D”.
Like I’ve said before, I hope I’m wrong about my personal pet theory.
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i think size may have something to do with it as well.
small guy tries to split defense and gets tapped and goes down, whistle blows.
bigger guys tries to split defense, and goes down, no whistle, the big guy should fight through that.
and to throw all of my hockey credibility out the window, i’m not a big fan of malkin. i still think he’s a bit “doggish” a la jagr, that is, not competing every night. i may also be the only penguin fan who haaaaates frenchy lemieux….
Size does have alot to do with it.
Malkin is a skill guy who does not get as many calls as Sid. But then again Malkin, when determined cannot be knocked off of the puck easily. Sid is a guy who plays on edge, and is easily knocked over. He is visible and because of his speed and churning legs draws more penalties. That is the reality of the situation.
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by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Malkin is the best player in the NHL. This is coming from a Canes fan that has been saying that for 3 seasons now.
by packpigskinfan25 on May 26, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I love my Canes too much to get sucked into this crap and ruin a perfectly good blog admiring what the Canes have done up to this point. I’ll be cheering on the boys tomorrow night! GO CANES!!!!!
Amen Brother.....
One game at a time and may the Canes win 1 game, four times in a row.
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It is difficult
to determine that from your handle.
Catch you all later.
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The Canes have done alot up to this point, I wont take that away from them.
I would by no means call what they did to New Jersey and Boston a Miracle by any means
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Canes can’t perform a miracle and beat the Pens which they could.
I’m going for Detriot in four games against Pens and you heard it hear first.
Lets go Canes. If not Lets go Hossa!!!!
Heard it here second
Wings in four? Sounds like the same words i heard before the ECF started.
Canes in four.
We all see how that is going.
I always thought
It would have been a 6 or 7 game series.
Still do although now I prefer it go to 7 games.
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Hossa has stated in an interview after the season he would not mind signing a contract for long term with the Penguins
Yea but Hossa will get a ring with Detroit this year. Plus Pens can’t afford Hossa next year (especially long term).
Alot of Pens players are UFA’s that are making big money…
Guerin and his 4.5 million, Sykora and his 2 million, Satan and Fedotenko with thier 2 million a piece, thats 10.5 million right there
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Alot of Pens players on the roster are making BIG MONEY!
Orlando- check out this site- http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=PIT
To give you an idea of your cap picture-
Crosby = 8.7 Million
Malkin = 8.7 Million
Fleury = 5 Million
Gonchar = 5 Million
Staal = 4 Million
Orpik = 3.75 Million
Kunitz = 3.725 Million
That is seven players making roughly 39 Million dollars. If Hossa were to resign, somewhere in the neighborhood of 7.5 Million, you guys arent going to have a whole lot of money left for the other 2/3 of your team.
by PittsburghCaniac on May 26, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
You guys are probably a better, more balanced team without Hossa.
by PittsburghCaniac on May 26, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
not to mention grittier and tougher.
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by oldtimehockey09 on May 26, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
For OrlandoSeal
The Pens sucked canal water for about five years. That allowed them to draft Fifth, First, Second, First, and Second. Even I could have picked at team with that setup. That is the difference between them and the Hurricanes, draft position.
Start here and work backwards: http://www.hockey-reference.com/draft/NHL_2006_entry.html
2007 I dont see the pens with a First, second or 5th
by OrlandoSeal44 on May 25, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
At the time, the pens already had Malkin under contract. Why would the league have given them Crosby too, when the NYR (and significantly larger market/media coverage) had an equal chance to win the top pick?
by Hansmoleman on May 25, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction
Malkin’s rights, not under contract
by Hansmoleman on May 25, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey stranger things have happened.
While the team looks tired and a bit awestruck, I for one am not ready to quit on them. Do it………..guys.
Change the title of this article to - Things couldnt be better for the Canes!
Last December, I thought the Canes were dead. I don’t think many people thought that they had a chance at being in the playoffs, nevertheless, the Eastern Conference Championship- this is an awesome opportunity for the Canes. We beat NJ and Boston in two game 7s, and marched on to be one of the final four teams. When I was in Vegas at Treasure Island and popped down 5 bucks to payout 150 or so if the Canes won the cup, they looked at me like I was crazy. Now, we are one of four teams left. We were left for dead most of the season, left for dead against NJ, left for dead against Boston, and now- nope, not dead yet- GO CANES! Ya just never know….that is why they play the games.
by PittsburghCaniac on May 26, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions
I like this suggestion
What an amazing season. I’ll bet they get the win tonight. After that, I make no predictions. (I already made through the last 2 game 7’s and have learned better).
Go Canes!
by hockeymomof2 on May 26, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I found a few lines to be funny.
Remember last year, when the press roasted “Geno” Malkin for being a no show in the finals against Detroit? “Loyal” fans were quick to throw him under the bus as well. Now, his parents are even celebrities as Versus shows the beaming couple gushing during every stoppage in play.
Sounds like someone is nitpicking because his team has blown chunks thus far in the series. You are done and you know it. I just love how you have to take your anger and direct toward the fans who support the guy who is beating your ass in this series, since obviously you cannot say anything of substance about him.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
In games 2 and 3, I can't argue the 'Canes haven't blown chunks
just don’t get me started on Game 1, again.
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Game 1 was a well played game you are correct.
But the Canes have just appeared dead ever since then. The interview with Corvo just confirmed that feeling the other night. The Pens are clicking at the right time (for them), and losing 4 in a row would be darn near impossible. But I am hoping for a game 6 so I can use my tickets.
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by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Not exactly what I was thinking
But I’ve already given my opinion on that hatchet job by the zebras.
Which I think has a lot to do with the “no-show” by the ’Canes “D”.
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Well you can blame it on the refs
or you can accept that your team isn’t playing as good.
Simple as that?
You ran your mouth early, now that you are about done, you say it is all the refs fault.
Enjoy the offseason, but at least you will always have NASCAR
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by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won’t taste good. – Joe V. Paterno
Perhaps you should heed JoePa’s advice.
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Which to me is the Pen's
“wonderful run” in the post season in a nutshell.
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I have no honor?
Was I ever bashing your city?
Was I ever spouting off that we would clearly be the better team?
I think you answered in the negative to both.
Sorry Cory, get off the high horse and realize that your fellow fans are turning to whatever they have to feel better about this win. I have even read responses on here about how decrepit Pittsburgh is and how Raleigh is a land of milk and honey. I haven’t stooped to any of that.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Which is not what the phrase
he quoted is saying.
Nor has it been anything I’ve said.
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So you’re saying that “ran your mouth early” and “you will always have NASCAR” are honorable statements? That explains much. =)
by Raccoon Fink on May 26, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
you’ve been warned … keep in mind Pittsburgh hasn’t won anything yet.
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Warned what?
That no team since 1947 has come back from 3-0?
I will not be shocked if Carolina can win tonight. They are a good team, and are playing at home with desperation. But 52 years of history point to the fact that this series is about over. I am not concerned.
And Roccon Fink: I only stated that Carolina fans were running their mouths early. Making a statement about a true fact is NOT a dishonorable statement. And the NASCAR thing? I was only emulating your own coach. If he can do it why can’t a fan?
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually
didn’t the 1975 Islanders do just that, vs,. the Pens no less?
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that is true,
I misread an article this morning. It is found here.
That is my bad, and I am glad you fixed that error.
But the canes are going up against a very skilled team clicking on all cylinders. A series changing event needs to take place to swing this thing. Especially with the pens having home ice.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
easy there...
a team has come back from 3-0. the islanders, in the mid 70’s. against who? that’s right, the pens.
i still hate john tonelli for that….
warned that your act is getting old here
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
He meant me.
Reply fail.
That is all
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
So because you don't like it you are going to do what?
I am not violating any rules. I am offering my opinion which is nothing that your own caniacs are doing.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I am not trolling. I have been here having a discussions since before the series began. Banning me would be ridiculous. Your own fans are doing more trolling than myself.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
hey but keep the 5th grader act up and keep warning people that they will be bannedq
for offering a counter point of view. That is what all great leaders do. They eliminate opposition. 
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Uncle Joe
and Auntie Saddam!
So you’re the one who stole my family portraits!
Knowledge is Power!
Power Corrupts!
Study hard,
Become Evil!
Wait
Saddam is your aunt?
Saddam is my aunt too!
That must mean we are related!
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
That explains why
we hate each other.
There can be only one who gets the ill gotten goods.
;D
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Power Corrupts!
Study hard,
Become Evil!
But I it looks like you got dibbs on Baghdad Bob.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
"There is nothing to fear, the penguins are going to lose they will kill themselves by slicing their own throats with their skates, we will win"
I see he is a canes fan too!
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I tried.
A good baghdad bob joke is always good for lightening the mood.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
When you bring something to the conversation, that’s fine. But you’re not … you’re saying the same thing over and over again.
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Please point this out.
You will see when you really look that across the boards I have been saying relevant and appropriate (based on precedents set by other posters) statements.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
But I am done argueing this with you.
I mean who am I to argue with a “sports journalist”?
lol
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
You are done and you know it.
But the Canes have just appeared dead ever since then.
You ran your mouth early, now that you are about done, you say it is all the refs fault.
But 52 years of history point to the fact that this series is about over. I am not concerned.
Should I go on?
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Those are all seperate points
aren’t they? And you pulled singular statements out of larger posts. So if I did the same thing I could make anyone appear foolish right? The whole out of context thing.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
But I will yield to your intellectual powers
please do not send me to the gulaughs.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
No, we won't send you to
Cary.
The land of “no thought” and “Stepford this and that”.
Knowledge is Power!
Power Corrupts!
Study hard,
Become Evil!
How is it out on context when it’s happened at least four times in two hours? If I was out to silence critics and other fans, I would’ve done it in Game 1.
As for the “sports journalist” comment … my degree is in journalism and I’ve been working in magazines and newspapers for about 10 years as a writer, editor and designer. My bio says as much.
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Well context is something you were taught then, no?
If the discussion is on the current series. MY opinion to the situation is that history says this series is over. Now you can discount my opinion by character assassination but it is still my opinion. Sorry, and please do not get in an uproar mister journalist.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Man shut up already, i thought i was being douchey here, let it go.
by JasonGoPens on May 26, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone here can read in full what you’ve written. You wanted examples of how you continue to say the same things, I gave them to you. You don’t need me to assassinate your character.
If you want to contribute valid points (like what you posted about Malkin using his size) that’s fine. But the same posts about how it’s over, about whining, ect. are old. If it’s over, move on to Winging It In Motown.
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I was only in a discussion with others that didn’t include you. You want me to never say the same theme twice, I will try and oblige, but I hope you bash your own supporters for the same thing. The whole refs are giving this series to the Pens has been beat on since game 1. That is getting a bit overplayed.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a Hurricanes blog … if they want to gripe about the refs and preferential treatment to Crosby, this is a forum to do that. I don’t agree (and I said it after Game 1). The only reason it continues to be discussed ad nauseam here is b/c you’re here to fan the flames.
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I showed up this morning around 8.
The refs and diving comments were going on last night.
I really don’t think I have kept the flame alive.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Which started with a diff. Pens fan showing up to start stuff. He went away and you kept it up.
He was also warned about the Cole/crying comment.
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't like NASCAR
but you don’t care or continue to keep saying it so if the ‘Canes don’t go on to the SCF, I look forward to Wings taking Crosby’s head off and mounting it on a pig pole.
As for the refs, when you get the feeling that you are going to be caled for any infraction that hampers a “star”, you do lose that step. You think to yourself, “Hey, if I do that will it put my team in a bind? Will I get another penalty on me?”
Like the NBA when one of their stars goes right up the gut, taking 3 or 4 steps and traveling, if an opposing player had the spot picked out and stood his ground for 3 or 4 seconds, the defending player would get the penalty.
As for “running my mouth”, I truly believe and still do that the ‘Canes are a better team. They aren’t playing well and that’s for sure but I still believe they can take 4 in a row from the Pens.
That’s all.
Knowledge is Power!
Power Corrupts!
Study hard,
Become Evil!
i agree that the canes are better than what’s been seen over the last 2 games, and i still think this thing goes 6….
The Better team does not get swept.
never happens, and the more you whine about the refs the more you look like a nut case.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes dear,
anything you say dear.
If you feel that the Pen’s earned everything, good for you.
Knowledge is Power!
Power Corrupts!
Study hard,
Become Evil!
The Pens have earned it
if you cannot accept that and want to blame everything on the refs then fine. It shows the shallowness of your fandom. I would hope you could reach a point where your realize maybe the Pens are red hot right now. Rather than spout a conspiracy theory about the refs.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
If you believe that
then as I said good for you.
I don’t but if you’re willing to drop it, so will I.
Knowledge is Power!
Power Corrupts!
Study hard,
Become Evil!
not to speak for anyone here, but i read lcd’s post as saying the canes “are” a better team, not “the” better team…
I haven't given up hope
yet. Where there’s life, there’s hope.
Not until the clock strikes 00.0 and the Pens have at least one more point than the ’Canes.
Knowledge is Power!
Power Corrupts!
Study hard,
Become Evil!
Off Topic
if I wished to remove myself from a blog, how do I do it?
Knowledge is Power!
Power Corrupts!
Study hard,
Become Evil!
Click on your name, scroll down to blog memberships, and there should be a ‘leave blog?’ link by each blog of which you’re a member.
I see that for only one blog
and not the one I want.
The blog I want to leave has “{Star} Favorite?” by it.
Knowledge is Power!
Power Corrupts!
Study hard,
Become Evil!
Come on guys, if you just want to sit here and bash our team without any legitimate grounds, then go to your own blog and mingle with your fellow fans.
All this is saying is that we’re proud of where we are and how we got here. I’m sick of good Canes Country blogs turning into stupid childish arguments.
You said it right, girlfriend.
I actuall looked over at Pensburgh and they’re a lot more respectful when discussing the canes amongst themselves. the discussion above (and much of the discourse Sunday), was for the most part just a pissing contest, and no more.
Grow up, boys.
by hockeymomof2 on May 26, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I have been tied up all morning. Sorry, that should have been done awhile ago.
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Bubba’s not as nice as me … lol. Think he’s got two-fifths of the Southeast crossed off now.
by Cory Lavalette on May 26, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Aww…I wanted him to see our discussion on it’s only happened twice. Anyways you Canes fans should check it out. See my post below.
A Nation of Masochists a blog dedicated to Toronto sports fans, who are continually punished but keep coming back for more.
To Carolinaeasy
We over at pensionplanpuppets have been discussing the Burnside article you linked to.
Scroll to bottom of the comments
Go Canes…even though you do have Maurice. :O
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Funny stuff. While I understand the need to carve out a story, “it simply does not happen” is definitely worthy of the ridicule.
Even if the Canes do lose ( I highly doubt it will be a sweep) I really hope they take enough out of the Pens that they get crushed by Detroit.
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fwiw, The reason I stay out of comments during the playoffs is this kind of crap. I learned my lesson back in 06. The only thing to come out of it is raised blood pressure.
I hate the Pens, based on their model or team building which is, suck for a long time, stockpile high draft picks, and ride the wave while you can. MAF, Crosby, Malkin, Staal, it is all just too much. To me, that sucks. If we fail to get past them, I will be pulling for the Red Wings. It takes more talent to mine from latter picks,and keep up a high level of success than it does to be handed the pick of the litter every year for 5 straight frickin years.
O and to the folks calling Detroit goons, puh-lease. Orpik is like a boarding machine andMatt Cooke has a very well documented rep. Heal thy self physician.
Wylde you hit the nail on the head. As a Leafs fan the only knock I have on the Canes is Paul Maurice. If the Pens knock you guys out I have to cheer for the Wings. Tankers should never be rewarded.
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Ummmm the Leafs have been bad for four years but they haven’t tanked like the Penguins did. Go back to their rosters before the lockout and tell me that those aren’t all AHL-level players filling out the roster not to mention any good players getting shipped out for pennies on the dollar.
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If the Leafs were attempting to “tank” then they could have lost the final game of the season, finished with the 5th overall pick with a chance at 1st. Instead they beat the Sens and finished with the 7th pick.
Look back to what the Pens did before the Lemieux draft if you want to see the “art” of tanking
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aww, you guys are funny...
and i’d get into penguin money problems, lemieux’s hip injury, and an apparent crystal ball to see they’d win the draft lottery but…
this is a hurricanes blog, so why bog it down.
have fun trying to get tavares…
Meh, Tavares isn’t coming to Toronto. That’s just wishful thinking kind of like believing that the Penguins didn’t tank.
It’s ok to admit it. It’s gone pretty well so far.
And we’ll leave it at that.
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their model for team building?
you mean the one used in every other professional sport, that is, finish near the bottom and get high draft picks?
did carolina suck last year to get a good pick?
would you rather they build their team like the thrashers? finish last and continue to stink?
would you rather they build a team like the rangers do, that is buy every free agent out there?
you’re argument is a reach, at best.
Teams in other sports don’t tank on purpose like the Penguins did before the lockout or the way the senators did before the Daigle draft. Luckily karma intervened in the latter.
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I really don’t think being a loser for so many years and building a team with draft picks was our planned model, who plans on losing…we had financial problems which resulted in us basically giving the franchise to mario, we couldn’t afford anyone because of our old debt, and we sucked. We rebuilt with the draft, that’s what your supposed to do.
by JasonGoPens on May 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when we talked about hockey? Those were fun times.
The small blessing of maybe getting swept means all the postseason trolls will be gone and we can start all the fun offseason talk!
I haven’t given up hope though. One game at a time!
Well said. Maybe the rain will keep down the tail-gating (boozing and pre-game taunting with it) and be the change in attitude that would be welcome for team and caniacs alike. Let’s focus on hockey on the ice, between the whistles and dispense with all the playoff hoopla and stress about when the Pens/Wings series will get underway. I liked Forslund’s observations a little while ago about the Canes needing to focus on the Canes, not the star power (and their entourage) that made itself at home at the RBC. It’s our house, folks.
Is Pittsburgh that good? You can bet your next IC Light on that. The Canes have one more chance to be better in the neutral zone and limit Pittsburgh rush speed. One more chance to make a safe, secure exit pass from their zone. One more chance to adjust their game and dictate the pace they want to play at. One more chance to be tougher on the puck. One more chance to be positionally sound in the defensive zone.
by hockeymomof2 on May 26, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Season guys.
No matter what happens tonight or for the rest of the series. I hope and think the Pens will win the series, if not tonight. But I wanted to do some communication with you guys that can’t be misconstrued as trolling. I like your team and organization, and I hope you make more playoff waves than the Capitals, for sure.
I have a small Admonition for Cory and Bubba, though. I don’t by any means think that your banning of Carolinaeasy was uncalled-for, but he did make some points about a few of the fans here. The best way to keep trolls away is not to feed off of their rhetoric. As the moderators of this blog, I feel that perhaps you should address this with some of them. “Don’t feed the trolls”
-David
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www.piratesmix.com.
by pascaldupweevil on May 26, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
some folks bring it on themselves by posting just absurd comments. im not going to mention names but seriously when you blame officiating for a loss rather then a number of oppertunities missed then you have issues or x team has things handed to them because of x reason. its really small minded and failing to look at the game as a whole.
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by oldtimehockey09 on May 26, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, It happens. like I said it was just a small admonition. It can be fun, to a degree, if it’s reigned in. It really gets annoying though when it overtakes the entire comment thread.
I think Cory and Bubba do a fantastic job here. Don’t mistake my words as me calling them out. I understand how difficult it can be to moderate things like this.
-David
sixminutecynic.blogspot.com
www.piratesmix.com.
by pascaldupweevil on May 26, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions
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