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Hurricanes Newsstand — May 29

The Carolina Hurricanes players and front office continue their exit interviews today. The general vibe seems to be that the team would like the same group back next season, and the players who have the option to leave want to stay. 

Right now everyone is saying all the right things. But as they say, money talks. But players like Jussi Jokinen, who got his groove back in Raleigh playing with two fellow Finns, and Erik Cole, who returned to the team that drafted him after less than a season in Edmonton, would likely look beyond the dollar signs to stay with the Canes.

Also, Peter Laviolette is pursuing the Minnesota Wild's coaching vacancy, telling the Star-Tribune:

"It's a terrific, prime position for whoever gets the opportunity there, but nothing at this point officially has happened yet. I'm definitely interested in coaching again. Minnesota is one of the premier jobs out there, so if there was a possibility, it's certainly something I'd like to explore."

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CarolinaHurricanes.com: Cole Expects to Return Next Season • Coming Back a No-Brainer for Captain • Jokinen Hoping to Stay • Rutherford/Maurice Conference Notes • Exit Interview Videos

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Yahoo! Sports: Cowher underfire for supporting Hurricanes against Pens

Star Tribune: Laviolette in the hunt for Wild coaching job

St. Paul Pioneer Press: New Minnesota Wild GM Chuck Fletcher taking his time to find a new head coach

Post-Bulletin: Laviolette in the hunt for Wild GM position

 

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I’m not trying to hate on Lavi or anything, but the idea of him taking over such a defensive minded hockey club is absolutely LAUGHABLE.

by Iggy Reilly on May 29, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

But that might be

just what the Wild need.

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by lcd2you on May 29, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Minnesotans will stand for 3 odd man rushes against per period.

by Iggy Reilly on May 29, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I try not to get involved in

“As the Puck Turns”, but I take it Lavi’s leaving was not as amicable as Mo’s first bye-bye?

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by lcd2you on May 29, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

how much longer

is Lavi on the Canes payroll?

Maybe Colorado would enjoy the big hair?

Sutter sounds ready to move out of NJ (by mutual agreement). Who else is in the market for a coach? Seems like they’re all in the West. I don’t pay attention as much to those headlines.

by Carolyn Christians on May 29, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two years...

Although in some cases, that payment ends if/when he gets another coaching job.

by MichaelProcton on May 29, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh. Seems like it would healthier for everyone for him to get a real job; we all need to put this one behind it. Kind of alimony.

I thought the exit interviews provided some insight to how the players felt about the December change. I inferred that they all were really struggling, mentally mostly, under Lavi and that they believed that Mo’s arrival (w/Francis, Rowe,et al) was about the best thing that ever could have happened to them, not only as a team, but individually. There was definitely a feeling a gratitude about that move from almost everyone who mentioned it. It was real obvious in Rosey’s comments.

by Carolyn Christians on May 29, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you read what Criag Leopold, who sold the Preds and bought the Wild, is saying, he wants a more up-tempo team. That sounds like Lavi.

by Cory Lavalette on May 29, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly the reason why they would hire him. That style has worn out its welcome for the most part in Minnesota. Unfortunately for them if they make this move it’s probably too little too late to entice Gaborik back.

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by DaleCooper on May 29, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed Dale. As far as experienced guys, it’s really only Lavi, MacTavish, Dave Lewis … who would you pick?

by Cory Lavalette on May 29, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would still pick Lavi.

I was just making a little joke is all. I really didn’t dislike the guy all that much.

by Iggy Reilly on May 29, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

From TTS

Maybe a little insight to what Mr Rutherford’s thinking on the RFA and UFA’s

Reading to the end and perhaps between the lines, LaRose, Cole, Ruutu and Jokinen are staying. Bayda, Babchuk and Seidenburg are much more likely to move on.

Last, love this quote from Ruutu when asked about his connection with the fans (keep in mind there’s not much about Tuomo I don’t love):

“Every time you get a chance to hit, you have to hit because you know they love it, and they’re going to cheer for it” he said. “When (my parents) came over they were a little surprised at what was going on because they were booing at you, but I told them it’s not booing.”

Yep. Definitely, not booing.

RUUUUUUU!

by Carolyn Christians on May 29, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Bubba, Scott and I will soon have a UFA/RFA primer of what we think will go down. FWIW, my list matches what you’ve posted above.

by Cory Lavalette on May 29, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool with me. Also sounds from Cole’s interview that they could offer him anything north of $1.5mil and he’s gonna sign it (I exaggerate only slightly). He also sounds ready to improve his game and earn his place. Definitely more humble than I would have expected.

by Carolyn Christians on May 29, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

says a lot that Babchuk did not meet with the media.

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by Bob Wage on May 29, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thay haven’t put anything up for Kaberle, Walker or Conboy either. Has Babchuk already had his interview with JR? Walker and Conboy are done deals. Wonder what the plans are for Kaberle.

I thought it was interesting to see Wallin side-by-side with Corvo. Wallin almost seemed like a mentor for Corvo, who was a lot less certain about how to answer questions and hadn’t quite put the Penguins debacle behind him. (it was hard not to remember that 2nd intermission interview with VS from Game 3)

Bayda’s talk was very brief and didn’t really focus on the future of the Canes either. Not a real confident session.

by Carolyn Christians on May 29, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Babchuk’s influency in English has something to do with that. The few times I’ve seen him interviewed, he seemed really nervous.

by nomadologist on May 29, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

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by Bob Wage on May 29, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

KHL considering Kaberle?

Sovietsky Sport 21 May 2009 -
Washington forward Michael Nylander and Carolina defenseman Frantisek Kaberle might become players for Avangard Omsk this summer.

by hip_check on May 29, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently...

There’s a possibility, if a buyout can’t be reached or a trade can’t be made, that we could loan him to a KHL team and get some cap relief. I’d imagine that’d also cut back on the payroll as well.

by MichaelProcton on May 30, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a Canes follower, I would never concern myself with the cap. They’re more concerned with actual dollars.

by Cory Lavalette on May 30, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

But I wouldn’t think we would pay the full salary if he wasn’t playing for us, yes?

by MichaelProcton on May 31, 2009 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I imagine he’s either be loaned or suspended. In either case, he’d come off the cap.

by Cory Lavalette on Jun 1, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually,

I thought it was Wallin and Kaberle that showed the best poise in the series vs the guys who I want them to lose to the Dead Things

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by lcd2you on May 29, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easier to show poise against third and fourth liners for half as much ice time.

by Cory Lavalette on May 29, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like it – and that’s a pretty good team isn’t it (I’ve heard it more than once – like maybe Jagr’s team?)

by Carolyn Christians on May 29, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, Jagr’s team.

by hip_check on May 29, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and still does on NHL 09

by chrisj on May 29, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if you download the newer rosters, he is on the Canes.

Although Babchuck isn’t the reason to download those rosters. He is rated a 72. .

by Iggy Reilly on May 29, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rosie, Whitney, and Ruutu interview vids up now.

by hip_check on May 29, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

bubba, do you think if larose gets the raise here in carolina that he might hit a little bit of a plateau coming off the signing and needing to find his role now that he isnt so “undrrated”?
does he continue to move his feet and fight the way he did even though he doesnt need to (contract and reputationwise) maybe as much because of his recent spotlight?

by chrisj on May 29, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

If Chad LaRose becomes complacent then I think we have bigger problems to worry about, like the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

by Iggy Reilly on May 29, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

complacent is a little harsh, but i can understand the post signing shock, its a different world when you are set. you know?

by chrisj on May 29, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chad has always struck me as a very hard worker, so I doubt that will ever stop. But he might have reached a plateau regarding his goal scoring. That can happen to any player, but regarding his skating and work ethic, I would be shocked if Chad changed much after a long term contract.

But one never knows. That’s the risk a GM takes with a 3 year deal.

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by Bob Wage on May 29, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was only moved up off the 4th line in JANUARY!

He could easily hit 25 or even 30 goals if he’s playing top 9 minutes for 82 games.

by MichaelProcton on May 30, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s not like his production skyrocketed when he was given more ice time. From the beginning of the season to Dec. 31, he had 9 goals in 37 games. From Jan. 2 to the end of the season, he had 11 goals in 44 games. And he made no improvement in his assist total from the previous seasons, even though he played in 81 games games this season. and only 58 last season. He produced at 0.23 goals per game this season and 0.19 last season, not a huge increase. I don’t see him becoming a consistent 20 goal, top-six forward. He’s a great third-liner and penalty killer, and can jump into a scoring role if need be, but I think he’s always going to be a role player. I don’t say that to belittle him; I just hope that GMs around the league realize that and don’t try to throw big money at him thinking he’s about to break out and become a consistent 20-25 goal sniper. I’d love to see him back with the Canes for a few more years at $1-1.5 million per.

by nomadologist on May 30, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chad averaged 15 minutes a game this season. That was eighth among forwards … so he was in a top nine role (and Cole was 7th, but be replaced Williams .. so that’s a wash). Cullen averaged about 1:30 more, but played in 12 fewer games … and outscored him by three goals and 12 points. Sorry, but I’d be shocked if Chad ever broke 20.

by Cory Lavalette on May 30, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fine...

But you have to think about how much of that time was spent on the PK. He was fifth in that category behind Brindy, Staal, Eaves, and Bayda, and his ratio (9.4%) of time spent on the kill was third behind only Eaves (14.2%) and Bayda (17.3%.)

by MichaelProcton on May 31, 2009 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the Cullen comparison is pretty unfair...

When you consider that Cullen spent 142 minutes on the PP to Chad’s 38. That’s almost four times the minutes, and it’s barely more than Eaves or Bayda got.

by MichaelProcton on May 31, 2009 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chad doesn’t belong on the PP … that’s why he has zero career power play goals. I don’t see any way he ever becomes a 25-goal guy … this year, IMO, was his banner year. That doesn’t mean there isn’t value to what he does (there is), b/c his hustle and PK skills are great. He just doesn’t have great hands. Go back and watch all his goals from the year on NHL.com … I’d be there aren’t a whole lot of wrist shots that beat the goalie or deke moves. Most are garbage goals. They’re worth the same as pretty goals, but Larose isn’t exactly Tomas Holmstrom in size. He’ll be hard-pressed to match 19 unless he manages an absurd amount shorthanded. Again, not a knock on what he brings … but Chad knows what he does well.

by Cory Lavalette on Jun 1, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to feel this way, but do not agree with you about this one Cory.

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by Bob Wage on Jun 2, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree w/ Bubba … Chad will always be a hustle guy, I think. But to expect 19 goals down the road might be much. He had a lot of “right place, right time” goals, and not a whole lot of “wow, what a shot” efforts. It says a lot that he scored 19 on pretty much effort.

by Cory Lavalette on May 29, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that hes a slacker.

Why not 20 chad?

by Iggy Reilly on May 29, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chad's whole game depends on hustle

hck, his survival out there, at his size, depends on being the fastest, first to the puck, get out of the way, and be the one who hits instead of get hits.

If he slacks off, someone will break him into little pieces.

by DidJussiThat? on May 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was 100% a joke about how he was on the cusp of 20.

He might’ve cost himself half a mil.

by Iggy Reilly on May 29, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

DId you see the Fan Poll on the ’Canes homepage asking who we most want to see back next year? LaRose way out in front (37%), then Jussi and Ruutu (about 24% each), with Cole bringing up the last place at 15%. Ouch.

Interesting that Seidenburg, Babchuk, and Bayda are not a choice. (0% chance I’d say)

by Carolyn Christians on May 29, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t imagine a logical person wanting Chad more than Tuomo. Nothing against Chad, but Ruutu is a speciman.

by Cory Lavalette on May 30, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Ruutu is a specimen"

hahahaha love this description, hope you don’t mind if I use it myself sometime ;-)

by Jamie Kellner on May 31, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

of course … if Tuomo was a baseball player, he’d be called a “five-tool guy.” Not much he doesn’t do well, he just needs to put it all together.

by Cory Lavalette on Jun 1, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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