"Not making a lot of progress" re-signing Cole and LaRose - Update
Paul Branecky of ch.com spoke with Jim Rutherford today and apparently there is little progress in the signing of any of the Hurricanes unrestricted free agents. The closer to July 1st it gets, the more complicated things get, for both sides of the negotiation.
While Rutherford certainly has a budget to adhere to, there has been no mention of what the Canes budget will be this year. Is it the same as last year? Higher? Lower? One would assume that because of the deep playoff run and the fact that the franchise was in the black this past season, the budget might be a bit higher than last year's 49 million. But you know what they say about assumptions.
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Rutherford states in this interview with 590 The Fan that he would like to be at 50 million this coming year. He repeats that he would like to bring the same team back for next year, "but agents are throwing goofy numbers around."
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And if there were any thoughts about bringing Seids back before...
Rutherford said the team has already come to terms with the fact that defenseman Dennis Seidenberg will move on in the coming weeks.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
I’m curious as to just how tight JR’s purse has been tied… he’s throwing around an aweful lot of negative vibes this summer already.
Maybe it is the agents…..this is certainly not encouraging either way.
Maybe we will make a bigger splash in the open market than previously thought. We will have to if all of these guys slip away.
Yea, right, the agents
If Rutherford doesn’t sign either Cole or LaRose, it will be because he can’t see eye to eye with their agents. While I don’t see a player in the system who can take the place of Cole, perhaps Rutherford thinks a guy like Boychuk can step into LaRose’s spot and provide some spark and scoring at a lesser price. In fact, maybe the Hurricanes have always thought of Boychuk as a possible replacement for LaRose rather than Whitney. Who knows. So maybe we don’t resign these two guys, then Boychuk takes the place of LaRose and we draft a sizeable winger tomorrow to replace Cole— in a few years.
by hockeythoughts on Jun 25, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the team has higher hopes for Boychuk than that, honestly.
by Cory Lavalette on Jun 25, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, then Boychuk is Whitney’s replacement. That’s definately higher.
by hockeythoughts on Jun 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
As far as the players are concerned…. I think they have more input on how the negotiations go than Eric Cole wanted everyone to think on the radio Tuesday morning.
LaRose has not ever gone to “the other side”…. yet…. but Cole should know from his experience w/ Edmonton (although he did not choose to go there) that the grass is not always greener….. even if the money is…..
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Jun 25, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
Sometimes the money is all that matters it seems.
I am not encouraged on the Canes UFA front today that’s for sure.
“but agents are throwing goofy numbers around.”
I was really afraid of that one. Who knows what Cole’s agent is asking for, it seems like this is the same old shit that happened last time with him.
This lack of progress with anyone is very disappointing
Any idea how other teams are fairing with resigning their UFA’s? It may be July 1st sees a glut of players whose agents are apparently oblivious to current state of the economy and what constitutes a realistic salary.
Now lets all sing "Poker Face" (JR is one of the Best Poker Players in the NHL)
Are we talking about the same JR that told us 1 day before he traded Williams for Cole (and made the trade 1 day before the trade deadline) that he did not anticipate any trades and he liked the team we had at the time? JR always makes us believe nothing is going to happen and then at the 11th hour…BAM…JR works his magic, again. That is why I think he is the greatest GM in the NHL today, because he knows how to keep a poker face and we all fall for it. He deals his cards, rakes in the players and we usually reap the rewards for his magic. The key word is “usually”, even the greatest poker player can lose a hand from time to time. Anybody have any examples of JR losing a hand (player) that he brought to the team, that turned out to be a loser?
C
I agree. It’s all posturing (both sides). The goofy number comment is indicative of that. Nothing is done till it’s done. JR is a pro at this. Watch and learn.
(H*ll – you guys are Caniacs? I don’t need to tell you that after the last 6 months in Raleigh)
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Jun 25, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
also – the fact that this was on hurricanes.com (TTS) shows it’s as much for the agents’ ears as anyone. (Who directs what’s on the Canes’ own site more than the GM? Just in case the agents and the UFA’s missed the Toronto AM Radio interview)
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Jun 25, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Melichar? Brookbank?
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He turned Melichar and Brookbank into Jokinen.
by nomadologist on Jun 25, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
"Anybody have any examples of JR losing a hand (player) that he brought to the team, that turned out to be a loser?"
I mean, they kind of sucked. And he HAD to use them because he couldn’t pay for Jokinen otherwise.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 25, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
free agent signing
You know how the cane’s are. Get a good thing and then let it slip through there fingers.
robert
Personally, I could care less about Cole. I don’t think the team needs to be spending money on a player who can’t score and finish off plays anymore. However it bothers me that JR has made seemingly NO progress with anyone at all. And I’m sure a lot of this has to do with damned Peter Karmanos hold the purse strings again.
Guys like Ruu, Jussi, and LaRose need to be re-signed. I think we can do without anyone else.
Here is a question though: if JR is trying to resign Cole, what is the issue? Is Cole’s agent trying to get top 3 forward $$$ here? If he is then he doesn’t even need to be considered. The guy is not a point producer and will not get very good $$$ if he hits the market. He is trying to get $$$$$ here, but will only be offered $ anywhere else. Sounds kinda ridiculous to me.
Member of Canes Country and the Cat Scratch Reader
cole doesn’t deserve anything more than 1.5 million, other wise let him walk, larose needs to be back
Agreed, although I think if we were to resign Cole I would do it for only 1 mil. The guy doesn’t have any statistical leverage at all in these negotiations.
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$500,000 tops and he is’nt going to sign for that so let him go. We have to much talent (cheap talent) that we can replace him.
That's ridiculous.
Players who have never been anything but mediocre get $1.5 a year. Cole’s been much better than that.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 25, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Cole and take a hike, keep LaRose at all costs.
Keep LaRose and let Cole walk, he did nothing in the playoffs anyway which is why we went out and got him for in the first place.
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Jun 26, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions
Really?
I thought we had gotten him to help us get there? Funny that they even made him play in the regular season games we had left.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 26, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
You guys are way too harsh on Cole. 500k? That is not even a realistic thought.
He disappeared in the playoffs and became stone hands Cole, but have you already forgotten about the points tear he went on in the regular season to get the Canes there?
Maybe he slips away because we really dont need to be offering him top 3 money, but throwing out a number like 500k is just ridiculous.
+1
I find some of these harsh comments re: Cole astonishing. Wow.
Talk about “what have you done for me lately?” Not sure what’s bringing this kind of negativity. Reading them, you’d think we finished at the bottom the SE Div this year. Please re-wind to March.
I’m not saying the Canes are lost without Cole, but he’s got a lot he brings to the table. Maybe not consistently top-3, but a worthy and capable veteran player. $2-2.5mil is reasonable.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Jun 26, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
He deserves and is skilled enough to earn at least 2 mil.
by packpigskinfan25 on Jun 26, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
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