Last Year's Top Line Combinations
One advantage the Carolina Hurricanes might have over most other teams next season is the ability for the coaching staff to mix and match forward line combinations as needed in game situations. Several of the forwards have a lot of versatility and they are flexible enough to be able to move around and play different roles with different teammates. How did this work out last year? Let's take a look at the top scoring lines for the 2008-09 season.
According to DobberHockey.com, the Staal-Samsonov-Ruutu line was on the ice the most together and scored more points than any other Carolina line. Here are the most used lines with their points during even strength play:
| Line | Shifts | Points | Point per | ||
| Combo | Together | Together | Shift Ratio | ||
| 1 | Staal-Ruutu-Samsonov | 2329 | 48 | 2.1% | |
| 2 | Staal-Ruutu-Cole | 955 | 25 | 2.6% | |
| 3 | Brind'Amour-Walker-Whitney | 803 | 11 | 1.4% | |
| 4 | Cullen-LaRose-Whitney | 797 | 19 | 2.4% | |
| 5 | Staal-Ruutu-Whitney | 496 | 6 | 1.2% | |
| 6 | Brind'Amour-Eaves-Samsonov | 462 | 7 | 1.5% | |
| 7 | Cullen-Williams-Whitney | 363 | 9 | 2.5% | |
| 8 | Jokinen-LaRose-Whitney | 343 | 7 | 2.0% | |
| 9 | Bayda-Cullen-LaRose | 302 | 8 | 2.6% | |
| 10 | Staal-LaRose-Whitney | 96 | 8 | 8.3% | |
Somewhat surprisingly, the Staal-Samsonov-Ruutu group played more than twice as much together as any other line combination. They proved to be the most productive line in total points as well, but when Erik Cole was acquired and inserted in place of Samsonov, the production percentage went up even more.
The Cullen-LaRose-Whitney line was also very productive and we should see much more of them as a group this year. Staal, LaRose, and Whitney were not on the ice together very often, but when they were matched up they were very successful.
Now let's look at the powerplay forward lines:
| Line | Shifts | Points | Point per | ||
| Combo | Together | Together | Shift Ratio | ||
| 1 | Staal-Ruutu-Samsonov | 354 | 18 | 5.1% | |
| 2 | Staal-Ruutu-Whitney | 245 | 10 | 4.1% | |
| 3 | Brind'Amour-WIlliams-Whitney | 171 | 5 | 2.9% | |
| 4 | Staal-Ruutu-Cole | 127 | 12 | 9.4% | |
| 5 | Brind'Amour-Samsonov-Whitney | 79 | 5 | 6.3% | |
| 6 | Brind'Amour-Staal-Whitney | 63 | 9 | 14.3% | |
| 7 | Brind'Amour-Cullen-Samsonov-Whitney | 49 | 10 | 20.4% | |
| 8 | Brind'Amour-Walker-Whitney | 41 | 3 | 7.3% | |
| 9 | Brind'Amour-Staal-Whitney-Samsonov | 39 | 6 | 15.4% | |
| 10 | Staal-Ruutu-Samsonov-Whitney | 25 | 10 | 40.0% | |
Once again, Staal-Ruutu-Samsonov had the most shifts together. But just like during even strength, insert Cole in place of Samsonov and the percentages go up. (9.4% versus 5.1%). You can see the enticement to put four forwards together during the man, (or two man), advantage. The percentages really go up, but so could the goals against.
How about they play the Staal-Ruutu-Samsonov-Whitney foursome more often seeing that they scored earned points on 40% of their shifts together?
After looking at these stats you can really see the value in re-signing Tuomo Ruutu. Not only does he bring the obvious physical element to the game, but he is involved in most of the high scoring lines as well.
Having Erik Cole at his side helped Eric Staal to succeed late last year, but number 12 spent more time on the ice with Ruutu, (906:01) than with any other player. They scored about a goal for every 20 minutes they were together.
These stats are from Hockey Analysis.com.
| Even Strength Goals For with Eric Staal and Teammates | |||
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| Player | ES TOI | GF | GF/20 |
| TUOMO RUUTU | 906:01:00 | 42 | 0.927 |
| SERGEI SAMSONOV | 622:45:00 | 27 | 0.867 |
| JOSEPH CORVO | 517:26:00 | 24 | 0.928 |
| JONI PITKANEN | 446:05:00 | 25 | 1.121 |
| TIM GLEASON | 444:13:00 | 25 | 1.126 |
| DENNIS SEIDENBERG | 365:42:00 | 14 | 0.766 |
| ANTON BABCHUK | 291:19:00 | 19 | 1.304 |
| RAY WHITNEY | 250:24:00 | 19 | 1.518 |
| NICLAS WALLIN | 230:42:00 | 12 | 1.04 |
| ERIK COLE | 228:41:00 | 13 | 1.137 |
| FRANTISEK KABERLE | 97:08:00 | 5 | 1.03 |
| PATRICK EAVES | 79:43:00 | 4 | 1.004 |
| RYAN BAYDA | 66:16:00 | 2 | 0.604 |
| CHAD LAROSE | 63:14:00 | 8 | 2.53 |
| JUSTIN WILLIAMS | 61:10:00 | 1 | 0.327 |
| ROD BRIND'AMOUR | 28:58:00 | 2 | 1.381 |
| MATT CULLEN | 27:11:00 | 1 | 0.736 |
| SCOTT WALKER | 24:05:00 | 3 | 2.491 |
Staal really lit it up when on the ice with Whitney and LaRose, even though their time together was fairly short.
There are a lot of interesting stats to check out on this site. Simply click on the player's name to see how they did when paired up with other players. I just checked "goals for" but you can also see the "goals against"
Tomorrow, we will look at the defensemen.
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I’m amazed w/ confusedment….. errrrr…. or somethin’
by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Jul 28, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
Nice work!
I’m really suprised the Staal-Ruutu-Whitney line didn’t do better than it did, seems like it would be a great combination.
Still not a crook!
I don’t know how you find these stats Bubba, but you do a damn good job with it. Thanks for the post. I guess this helps prove the point that having Cole with Staal helps out a lot.
To be honest I won’t be sold until the season starts, but I am looking forward to seeing Cole have a good year and eating my words.
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He (LaRose) makes things happen on the ice. These stats show that intangibles, aren’t always intangible.
Luv this! Does show in numbers what I think we could feel in our guts about why we love the players we do (yes – the intangibles!).
And gratifying to see Cole get some statistical back-up, with all the bashing his rep has endured by several posters at CC the last couple months (and I’m not entirely immune from that myself).
Question: is it possible (and not too cumbersome) to do the complementary analysis – as in goals against – with different players/lines on the ice? Also for the PK.
Maybe not quite as relevant given the 2 new players on the blue line for the 09-10 season, but if the Forwards are taking responsibility at both ends, I’d like to see who has adopted best to that role. And, while I’m making my request, I’d also just like to see it post-ASG (Mo kept saying how we had the lowest GAA in the East for the 2nd half of the season) since that’s when the “Nu-Mo” system kicked in.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Jul 29, 2009 8:45 AM EDT reply actions
And then, when you’re done with that, will you make me a sandwich?
Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.
WIth mayo, spicy mustard. Toasted. Take your time, no hurry!
=D
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Jul 29, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I usually work on the bulk of this stuff during the evenings, then proofread and make changes when I have a chance during the day.
Sorry, no time for sandwiches today. :-)
To answer your questions, the first site does not give goals against info with the lines. But the second one does with the players paired. You can click on any of the players to get that information.
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about that sandwich
That’s not really why I’m here…
;)
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Jul 30, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Productivity is going down today
I just saw that link to Hockeyanalysis.com, a site I had no idea ever existed, and I’m addicted. It’s better than Sportsclubstats.com.
Yet again, Bubba comes through with interesting stuff on the Canes every single day. In the meantime, the “official” beat writers @ the N&O only publish stuff we’ve already heard about. Good thing you don’t work for print media, Bub.
Thanks!
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Amen to that. I always check here first thing in the am for news and then throughout the day. You can always hear it here first. Hell I heartd about the a ward trade days before anyone eles reported it. DAYS!!!!
by CarolinaCanes on Jul 29, 2009 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
James Mirtle had another story/discussion on the future of sports reporting (web vs paper) today at On the Rink. Certainly relevant.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Jul 29, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be From the Rink...duh
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 29, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that story, very interesting. Going to post a link to it in a mini newsstand article shortly.
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Excellent. Did you see the Japer’s Rink analysis of the SE conference teams’ off-season moves. They’re not impressed by (or worried about) the Canes at all. hee hee hee.
Not to rush you, but how’re Wilmnoca’s and my sandwiches coming? It’s nearly 1….
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Jul 29, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
We shall all see how the Canes fair against the caps this season. Without the loss of any of our scoring potential (besides the one trick pony Babs), and the addition of grit and toughness, how can anyone say we haven’t gotten better?
We addressed the need that everyone and I mean everyone saw as a weakness with this team: toughness. So, how can anyone say we are not a better team after this offseason?
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This happens to the Canes every off season. Our offseason moves always appear to be “underwhelming” to the press at large but we have watched our GM and team closely enough to know differently. I’ll give credit to JR, he is very good at assembling very competitive teams year in and out.
My only remaining hope for this offseason is that we find another good, solid goal scorer to help out. The Caps look loaded and we will have our hands full in the SE this season. More scoring depth will certainly help us fight it out and ultimately prevail.
by Canes Pucknut on Jul 29, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
HA
Those guys over there already have themselves penned in as division champs!! They are also one of the “elite” teams in the NHL….
by packpigskinfan25 on Jul 29, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting but...
The line combo stats show Points not Goals. It’s a little misleading to say a line scored 10 times in 25 shifts. I read it as they got 10 Points in 25 shifts. Since each goal can have 2 assists (points) awarded you get potentially 3 points per goal. So 10 points equals 4-10 goals depending on how the assists are assigned.
Good point. Although I didn’t say scored 10 times, but I did say scored 40% of the time. I changed the wording to make it more clear.. Thanks. :-)
The final grouping does refer to goals.
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Is that even necessarily true from a statistical standpoint?
It’s possible that 10 points from a trio could be scored in as few as four shifts (3 goals with all involved and 1 goal with one of them; 2 goals with 3 involved and 2 with 2 of them, etc.), which would bring down that percentage to 16%. Not ripping, just wondering. I’ve had a similar statistical debate where someone tried to argue the merits of a player by falsely converting their per/game ratio into a percentage. While this data does tell us things about the lines’ propensity for scoring in general (rate), I don’t think it says anything about consistency (as the “scored 40% of the time” line would suggest.)
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 30, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions



















