Quick Hits and Tidbits - August 10th
by Bob Wage on Aug 10, 2009 2:00 AM EDT
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As the hockey world turns-
"Patty Cake" Kane delivers his biggest hit of the season on Buffalo taxi driver.
Everyone is talking right now about the early Sunday morning arrest of Patrick Kane and his cousin after an alleged assault of a taxi driver over 20 cents in a taxi cab. There are two sides to every story, but it will be interesting to see how Kane explains his way out of the bruises on the cabbies' face. Maybe it was his cousin's doing?
And all these years I have been tipping cabbies....that must not be the custom in Buffalo.
JR finally calls it quits.
One of the top scorers in USA hockey history, Jeremy Roenick, recently announced his retirement. Gambling aside, he was always one of my favorite characters of the game because he normally would speak from the heart and say some pretty outrageous things. I remember one All Star game a few years ago he actually delivered a big hit on one of the opposition, (which is usually a no-no), and everyone was cracking up laughing on both benches.
Then there was the time he was dancing on the ice during a break at a preseason game in Las Vegas. What a crowd pleaser! He looks like possible "Dancing with the Stars" material.
The Hockey News has a "Top 10 List" of his best quotes which is worth a look.
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Canes Country not the only ones questioning the Bruins.
When the Boston Bruins traded Aaron Ward so that they could sign Derek Morris, Cory and I both questioned the move and the amount of money paid to Morris. It seems that Adam Proteau of The Hockey News agrees as he gave the signing a "dishonorable mention" in his article titled the "Worst UFA Signings of 2009". Number one on the list? Nick Khabibulin. The New York Rangers made the list three times with the signings of Marian Gaborik, Ales Kotalik, and Donald Brashear.
Nothing new for the Rangers to over-pay for free agents. We will see how it works out for them this time.
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More Drama in the Desert.
James Mirtle has been doing a lot of research and work covering the battle in court regarding the Phoenix Coyotes. It's sad to see this happening to the local fans, but it has been an interesting process to watch, and it's far from over.
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Calamity Continues in Tampa Bay
Apparently, the NHL is attempting to force a buyout between the feuding owners in Tampa Bay. Will these guys be in court next? The economy seems pretty good for lawyers representing the various entities throughout the NHL. Not a bad gig if you can get it.
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It’s lawyer-world, indeed.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 7:38 AM EDT reply actions
He's a Sabre.....
he can claim PTSD for their play as of late.
If money's the root of all evil then why do so many
churches brow beat their members for more?
He’s a Blackhawk….(unless being born in Buffalo makes you a Sabre)
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't bother me with facts
Oops.
I really did think he was a Sabre.
It must be something then in the water.
If money's the root of all evil then why do so many
churches brow beat their members for more?
Thank you NHL...
for going big, or going home.
You know, in most sports there are a speight of DUIs, off field incidents and controversies. But not here in the NHL, here we have players responsible enough to take a taxi from their place of inebriation, but we can’t promise someone wont have the **** beat out of them when they get there!
Who knows, maybe Citizen Kane went postal on his cabbie after seeing his last name was Rosebud or something.
Clicking around to see the spin (mostly humorous at the moment) hockey bloggers are putting on the Kane story, the 2-yr old story on the arrests of Jordan and Eric at Eric’s bachelor party in July 2007 keeps getting mentioned (in a way to suggest that the Staals’ antics were pretty silly and superficial by comparison).
At least there were no guns involved. This might be an even bigger mess for Patrick. Stupid stupid stupid boy.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions
You didn't need the same three adjectives
to tell what Kane’s real issue is:
boy, as in immature male (but isn’t immature and male also redundant?)
If money's the root of all evil then why do so many
churches brow beat their members for more?
Over 20 cents tho? My 6-year-old wouldn’t behave that way over 20 cents. Not to mention he was likely intoxicated underage.
by Cory Lavalette on Aug 10, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. This looks bad. No matter what the guy may have said, this is ugly behavior from a promising marquis player (closest we have to an American Crosby)
Mirtle had a well-written story on this with the link to the local TV news story (apparently he took a momentary break from the Bettman-Balsillie showdown) and then someone, in the comments, trying to stick up for Kane and criticizing a rush to judgement posted the link to the unedtied version fo the victim’s story. IMO, the full version was not helpful to Kane. Even if this guy (the taxi driver) is, at the worst, the type who’s looking for a big $ settlement, unless those are self-inflicted wounds, he didn’t stage this or set up the Kane boys with a sting.
This is not going to be pleasant for young Patrick. And the Hawks franchise, which is already looking pretty lame since the GM snafu/Havlat twitters and then the big Hossa contract clouded by the need for surgery, really didn’t need this distraction.
Even though this was a slow weekend for hockey, this would have been headlines even in October or March.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no proof (or even rumor to this point)...
That alcohol was in any way involved. And, as I noted below, it was about more than 20 cents. It was about being disrespected and locked in a car.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 12, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this going to be the new 'Madden Curse'?
Kane is on the cover on NHL 10
Dion Phaneuf was on the cover of NHL 09 and had the worst season of his career.
CONSPIRACY THEORY? I THINK NOT!!
On a sidenote, I think whenever Kane scores this season the ice should be showered with dimes….
and Staal the year before with the bachelor party thing.
by Cory Lavalette on Aug 10, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Y’know as it was recalled today, I got the feeling that most men considered that Staal weekend a moment of fraternity and empathetic approval between them and the lofty Staals. Definitely implying: Well done!! or “that could be me” on the bachelor party ending with a night in the klink.
This Kane incident is really a whole ’nother animal.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
nothing like being face down on the hood of a San Diego Sheriff’s cruiser with a deputy’s knee in a very uncomfortable position and your stretched out arms, palms up, somewhere above your head with your wedding being in only three hours…..
true story
If money's the root of all evil then why do so many
churches brow beat their members for more?
You think we’d doubt you?
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes I look back and think
wtf was I thinking?
If money's the root of all evil then why do so many
churches brow beat their members for more?
For those other times...
Do you wonder why you question the thought processes that got you there at all?
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 12, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHA
Sounds like one hell of a night turned over into a HELL of a day!
What were you doing out like that THREE hours before the wedding?! Isnt that when your supposed to be waking up, drinking a cup of joe to get rid of the hangover- and shaving? hahaha
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 11, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, it sounds a lot worse than it really was
It was my brother’s fault and I was an innocent bystander.
Tell you what. When we meet, hopefully for the opening game, I’ll tel you then. It’s actually quite funny.
If money's the root of all evil then why do so many
churches brow beat their members for more?
Its a story I would be interested in hearing, as long as some humor was involved!
I’m going to do what I can to make it to some games this season, but I no longer get my student discount, and the job market is a B@($&* right now… so who knows what will happen.
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 11, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they needed 2 quarters
one for Kane and the other for his companion.
If money's the root of all evil then why do so many
churches brow beat their members for more?
it really is dumb
seems like it will bring nothing but bad press to the Canes, and good press to Banks. But hey… like the whole Kane situation… any press is good press I guess.
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 10, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Bubba’s got a FanShot here to discuss this.
by Cory Lavalette on Aug 10, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The Blackhawks are shopping Kane. According to local Chicago sources.
It looks like he’s going to be their scapegoat now for their front office debacles and future cap issues.
Wow. That should be interesting to see who will pick him up for a trade.
Maybe they’d take Babchuk ….? (that’s a joke – I’m not sure I know enough to determine if Mr Kane is a good or bad element for a team, and our team most importantly. )
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest, I’m a little shocked that they’re shopping him, especially since things haven’t been resolved yet. I’m sticking to my original theory that there’s more to this story; especially since the cabdriver’s own lawyer seems to think this is has been blown out of proportion.
Now, this may be an unpopular opinion and in no way am I condoning his alleged actions, but if Chicago wants to ship out a two time 70-point scorer on the cheap, I wouldn’t be able to resist taking a look. Oh and I doubt Babchuk will be on their radar after the water bottle incident.
I saw some suggestions that somebody might have heard the rumor, but can’t find anywhere official saying he’s on the trading block. I’m certainly open to the possibility (am I just greedy to find a young sniper to join Staal? Absotively!!!)
I think the cab driver and/or his attorney is looking for money. I even detected that in the full unedited version of the interview above. Probably deserves it, actually.
Sorry – I’m out of it on this: what water bottle incident with Babchuk? That sounds entertaining,,
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew that’s what you meant.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the links. They are what they are.
The Kane story is from yesterday. He has one year left on his contract at $875k + a huge bonus (over $2.5mil). Next year he’s be an RFA. Now that will be an interesting arbitration…..
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you imagine? Are they allowed to bring props? Because somehow his mug shot as a poster doesn’t seem too far fetched.
Heck yeah – they can bring a video of the taxi driver….
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't have a link, but I had heard the rumor myself
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 12, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this story (Hawks shopping Kane) posted somewhere on the web?
by outlander_caniac on Aug 10, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
From James Mirtle, way back in 2006 a story The Life and Times of Joe Corvo about Corvo and some trouble he got in several years ago as a young man. (The original story that Mirtle was sourcing from The Hockey News seems to be missing now).
I saw Joe’s name mentioned in a Chicago paper’s article this afternoon exploring how hockey players have some of the same problems with the law that we associate with other pro sports athletes. I did a quick google search.
Here’s an excerpt in Mirtle’s piece (from 2006):
Corvo did not go voluntarily to the anger-management classes that ended up changing his life. They were mandated as part of his probation, once a week for a full year. But that doesn’t change the reality of where he stands today, in a far better place than he has ever known.
"That (incident) pretty much changed everything for me," he says. "I felt like I was stuck in the minors and I guess I was just getting too comfortable with it and maybe having some destructive behavior developing. That opened my eyes."
This is a pretty sensitve/perceptive piece on Corvo, that was news to me. It sounds like Joe went thru a tough time and he’s worked very hard to get where he is, beating these issues from early in his hockey career. I keep thinking of his dejection at the intermission of the Pens game in May. Heart on his sleeve, for sure.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
And that incident in particular is what I had in mind when I said I wouldn’t be opposed to giving Kane another chance.
Excellent point. And what I hoped people would take from my posting the Corvo story. ( I hesitated – thinking it might be a Pandora’s box)
These guys live in a fishbowl (and of course, at my house, that’s literal); they may need a little more “parenting” (or at least mentoring) as they grow up. Age 20 is not a finished product. (heck, neither is 40!) This might be an important fork in the road for Kane and I hope, for his sake, that Chicago doesn’t sacrifice him, after what he’s done for them the last couple years – he’s made them some money. Unless there’s a lot more bad behavior than previously disclosed, this is a wake up call but not a last straw.
And I still think what he did (as we know it now) was terrible. Maybe Joe Corvo would even be the right guy to reach out….
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly, I was actually going to bring up the Corvo story earlier, but wasn’t sure how it would be received. There are quite a few NHLers both past and present that have behaved poorly at some point in their careers, but have learned a lesson from it. Again, I am in no way condoning Kane’s actions, but to drop him from the franchise (or as some would prefer-kick him out of hockey for good) seems a bit extreme, as long as there isn’t a history of this kind of behavior that we aren’t aware of.
People change all the time
some for the worse but some realize what they’re doing and straighten up.
If money's the root of all evil then why do so many
churches brow beat their members for more?
Kane was a drunk 20 year old kid, nothing more, nothing less.
He made a ridiculously stupid and criminal decision. Alcohol is not an excuse, but I’m sure neither he nor his cousin would have assaulted the cabbie if they were sober.
My real question is what program the NHL has in place for young/rookie players. Both the NFL and NBA have rookie symposiums that offer financial counseling, tips to avoid back situations and things to watch out for. I have never heard of the NHL having such a program in place. Would it have helped avert this situation? Probably not, but you’re still dealing with a rarefied situation where kids <20 have millions of dollars and not enough guidance.
"what program the NHL has in place for young/rookie players"
If they don’t, they should. Maybe that comes from the Players Association?
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 10, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that some individual teams have programs designed to do stuff like that, especially for players from Europe. Some have “how to handle the media” classes while others have older players mentor rookies. I don’t know if all teams do that, I would assume they do, but maybe something at the league level would be a good idea as well.
Fixed
Kane was a drunk 20-year-old kid, nothing more, nothing less. He made a ridiculously stupid and criminal decision based on being locked inside a cab because a paranoid driver didn’t believe he could pay the fare based upon his age or his clothing or something else. Alcohol History is not an excuse, but I’m sure so one would assume neither he nor his cousin would have assaulted the cabbie if they were sober are indigent.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 12, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The Hawks would be utterly STUPID to get rid of Kane… of course they put themselves in a rough spot financially before this incident happened, and they might see it as an east way out of their tough situation.
Im sorry… some might disagree with me here, but Kane>Hossa…
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 11, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I think you're absolutely right.
I have a distinct feeling the front office didn’t really look through the books to realize how much they had to spend. I don’t think the decision was ever Kane Vs. Hossa, but rather Kane Vs. Toews. I guess they think Jonathan Toews is more important to the future than Kane.
The Blackhawks were in prime position to cement a frontline with Toews and Kane for the next 10 years, instead they’ve rolled the dice on Hossa and I don’t think it will ever turn out right for them.
From Sporting News on how the Black Hawks president McDonough insists on zero-tolerance “one strike and you’re out” – but that was 2 months ago about other matters. This will be an interesting test of the policy
Do you trade the player you’re supposedly building a team around, one of the game’s brightest young stars? And if not, does McDonough lose credibility?
Also provides some insight to Kane as a rookie living with GM Stan Bowman’s family.
Bowman knows Kane as well as anyone. Kane lived with the Bowman family during his rookie season and endeared himself to Stan’s two boys, Will and Camden. The Bowman’s also got to know Kane’s family well during that time.
“He’s a great kid off the ice,” Stan Bowman told SportingNews.com during the playoffs. “He’s an easy kid to live with. He’s unassuming, didn’t make any noise and was good to my two boys. They would bug him a lot, and he would appease them and play around with them.”
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 11, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Since there isn't much context about the incident itself...
Corvo apparently grabbed a woman’s butt at a restaurant and was asked to leave. Innocent enough in and of itself, but after he left, he found the woman later in the night, hit her in the face, and then kicked her once she went to the ground. Glad he’s figured things out since, but that is a very tough incident to justify at any point in a man’s life.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 12, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see this ending well for that cabbie.
Apparently, he chose to lock them in the car for some time without giving them the opportunity to even play because he did not believe they would do so regardless. Legally, that’s tantamount to kidnapping.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
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