Canes Country Exit Analysis - Tim Gleason
by Bob Wage on Aug 31, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintIt has taken us all summer, but we have finally made our way through the Hurricanes lineup and will finish our end of season reviews with the exit analysis for Tim Gleason.
The "tough as nails" defenseman will probably always be known as the player the Hurricanes received when they traded away Jack Johnson, the very highly regarded first round draft pick, (and third overall pick) in 2005. The deal was a bit more complicated than that though as the Canes also ditched overpaid Oleg Tverdovsky and received Eric Belanger in addition to Gleason. But Belanger never fit in and was eventually traded. Tverdovsky ended up going back to Russia.
Regardless, Gleason has turned into a fan favorite and is a vocal and physical leader on the blueline. He was a first round pick himself and was selected 23rd overall by Ottawa in 2001, who then traded him to LA for Bryan Smolinski in 2003.
The Good: Gleason considers himself to be a team leader and never backs down from a confrontation. He led the blueline with the most hits and might have the best hip-check on the team. He is an excellent teammate and will stick up for anyone until the bitter end. Gleason has matched up well with Joe Corvo and quite often they will take on the top offensive line on the opposing team. He still finished with a respectable +3 even though he is a low point producer. He looks to be alternate captain material in the near future.
The Bad: Tim did not score a single goal all regular season and is a bit offensively challenged. (He did score a huge one in the playoffs though). Sometimes he will fight when it would serve the team better to have him on the ice. He has taken a couple of very bad penalties late in games which were costly. Better discipline at times would be in order.
The Money: The Hurricanes have a lot of faith in the defenseman and signed him to a four year deal last offseason. He makes an average 2.75 million per year with three years to go.
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Here are the results of the previous exit polls:
Nic Wallin - C
Scott Walker - B
Cam Ward - A
Michael Leighton - C
Joni Pitkanen - B
Ray Whitney - A
Tuomo Ruutu - A
Joe Corvo - B
Erik Cole - C
Sergei Samsonov - B
Anton Babchuk - B
Jussi Jokinen - B
Chad LaRose - A
Matt Cullen - B
Eric Staal - B
Rod Brind'Amour - C
Ryan Bayda - B
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Solid and reliable
This guy is the epitome of a steady shut-down d-man. If he never scores a goal again, i
don’t care, as long as he continues to hit people, and protect the net! His salary is quite
reasonable, a bargain really, in this day where so many “ole-type” d-man who score a few
goals (and let in more) get extremely overpaid, ie 5-7 mil.
I love Tim’s attitude and the way he’s stepped into a leadership role with the team. You can always count on him to tell it like it is during interviews which is refreshing, and generally pretty entertaining. He learned a lot this season, and I expect him to get even better as this season continues. If he cuts down on the bad penalties, he’ll get an A from me for sure. But right now, I have to go with a B+++.
Ha ha ha! You already know what my fav Gleason quote from last season “That’s what happens when you suck”!!!!!!!
I love his attitude, his grit and determination he gets a B+++ from me too!! I think you will see a much improved Tim Gleason this year, and I could care less if he sores a goal!
Did Timmy spend enough time in LA to have some experience with Pronger? Seems like he (or Andrews given the Philly connection) will be the ones to keep him playing “nice”.. Or would AWard …?
Of course! Never mind – it’ll be LaRose!
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Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
Also – I gave him a B+. He lost the A for dumb penalties (that one late in Atlanta Feb 28 when we gave up the big lead in the last minute sticks out). He got the + for looking so hot in his playoff beard. =D
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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
what would be so wrong with that??? We know a good hockey player when we see one, and it would be the HOTTEST team on the ice
LMAO – what a debate that would be!
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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
And I know who you’d want in goal! (not hard to win that argument)
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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I noticed. =D
(& don’t disagree in the least – though if you looking for a little maturity, I have to admit that Brodeur is a nice looking man)
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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I will quote someone here…Amen Sista!!!
And I already know which picture of Cam I want to contribute to our Girls’ Guide.
Is Wardo proposing to someone in this photo?
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Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh don’t I…never mind. :) I don’t know what they said to him to get him to smile like that, but it needs to be said more often. He doesn’t get that smiley very often.
sounds like another opportunity for a caption contest…..
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by Carolyn Christians on Sep 1, 2009 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions
You need to right click on the photo and select “properties”. Then highlight the URL in the window that pops up and that is what goes in the box here at CC.
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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Now I’ll try the one for Gleason in glasses below.
The url is
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr154/caniacgirl3016/tim.png
(Ya feel like all the guys have gone to bed – or have we scared them off?)
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Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I think we expect our first debate: Who is the hottest back-up goalie, after Wardo. (A good lead-in for the invitations)
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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright – you just got yourself the job! Lemme know if you need help stuffing envelopes.
If it goes well enough, maybe Puck Daddy will give us a blurb. (oooooo)
(And stop by the fanshot I just put up for the Rosey/Staal “Caption contest” – another great time waster)
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Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Not like you need to select bridesmaid’s dresses….
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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. I’m still working on a really good caption for the Staal/Rosey photo. Somehow everything I imagine coming out of Rosey’s mouth isn’t quite appropriate…
And if you want me to, I will gladly set up the first Girls’ debate. :)
It’s def’ly funnier if you have him trash-talking. Just use ** to keep it PG-13.
And yes – as self-appointed blog hockeymom – I put you in charge of the GF’s Guide.
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Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
a little eyecandy, ladies
(LTD – I’m really pushing the limits of posting photos from your site here at CC. Hopefully I’m not overstepping. You do understand what a gift you’ve got and we’re lucky to benefit ….thank you!!)
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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
anytime
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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and LOL I graded him a ‘B’ for pretty much the same reasons. Would have given him an ‘A’ for the Devils series between the OT win in Game 2 (with the blessed stick) or for the diving save to keep it onsides for the game-tying goal in Game 7. But I had to take away points for this one (yep, that’s 2/28 in Atlanta, sorry I couldn’t resist):
by Jamie Kellner on Aug 31, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yo baby! yes maam.
(do you think this sorty of chick-y dialog diminishes the hard-earned recognition Bubba has achieved before we “girls” started looking for opportunities to post hot photos of our favorite hockey players? not that we should stop. just wondering.)
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Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we could start a “girls night out” at the blog on the right rail. Everyone is invited to post their favorite hot hockey player photos and we can debate teh preferences and merits of them amongst ourselves. Kind of immature “girls gone wild” parallel to the debate on whether “EA games pooped on the Canes”.
Call it the “Girlfriend’s Guide to the Hurricanes”
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Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Well there are at least another 4 or 5 regular posters we’ll need to get in on this (to be unanimous). It could be an intermission thing during the game vs Boston Oct 3…(kind of like Bubba’s live thread.)
We’ll need some time to assemble the photo-links. (Have you read any of that EA poops post – whole nother world over there!)
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Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I gave him an A but definitely needs to learn how to score. I know he says it’s not his job to shoot but if he could score once in awhile it would be a big BONUS.
I feel that Gleason could really learn a lot from Ward this season. He’s already a great leader on and off the ice, but he can improve a bit with his shut-down defensiveness.
I was a bit dissapointed in his development this past season, as it seemed he took a step back compared to Pitkanen or Corvo. But it may just be that he remained the same while the new system helped the other defensemen.
Where is Wallin
Why didn’t Wallin make your final list?
oops, he got a C
http://www.canescountry.com/2009/6/4/898915/canes-country-exit-analysis-niclas
inserting him now.
GM of CanesCountry.com
A different take on TG>
I guess I just see it differently. To me, Gleason makes more possession mistakes than he should. He is not smart with the puck. He doesn’t turn it over a lot but he puts the next guy in a bad position. On every lead out from our end, there are several passing lanes that are available. I don’t think he makes the best decision enough. Glen Wesley made the best decision about 85% of the time. IMO, TG is about 70%. I see him as the most over rated player on the team. He also overskates the play a lot. That leaves his pairing partner out to dry a lot. I don’t see him blocking enough shots either. He is also passive on the puck at times as well. I saw several plays last year where he had an opportunity to go back behind the net and play the puck but chose not to. Result, back of the net. Corvo and Pitts are way better with their decisions. Ward is better too. So to this fan, He is only 4th best. I gave him a C.
I gave him a solid B. He’s the “defensive” defenseman all the fans are crying for, but i don’t think he gets enough credit for his solid, steady play — as fans, we all want MVPs at every position. He’s got decent size (6"0 210+) and he’s a nice pairing for Corvo or Pitkanen and allows them some freedom. Good points, KenRab, on his shortcomings but that’s what a defensive defenseman does — they’re not great passers or puck handlers. As for his alleged tendency to take a bad penalty at the wrong time; less than 1 PPM per game. I like the idea of someone that might fly off the handle at the wrong time, it keeps the other teams on their toes :) He’s been invited to USA’s Olympic camp, and he led the team in hits. Even if he’s only the 4th best defenseman on the team, that makes him a top 4 blueliner — and at less than $9 mil for the next three years an affordable one. He’s also my No 1 contender for a alternate home jersey ( have Ruutu) so I might be a little biased. 4 weeks and 4 days until the home opener.
I hear ya.....Gillmus....
I just got used to Glen Wesley all those years. We used to say……oh….no worries, Glen has it. I like the edge he brings. I think he has the potential to do better. He has good speed. I expect more from that guy. He can do it. The exciting news is that he can be better……upside… I would like Glen Wesley to spend a lot of time talking about vision and play development to him. I suppose for most defensemen, puck movement and decision making are the last, toughest skill to master. I really look forward to his season. I am curious to see if he continues to progress…
you’re making me jealous!
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Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a troll. We debated on that with Whitney. whether it was a NJD, Boston or Buffalo fan. (they;’ve appeared on every poll – even Rosey!)
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Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Aug 31, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL!!
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by Carolyn Christians on Sep 1, 2009 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Bring back the hockey and we’ll drool in private…
:)
Besides, I do seem to remember at least one game thread where the guys were posting pics of some very lovely ladies…
And that was the middle of a game! Sheesh!
;)
OK I really need it to be Oct 2nd already (and for so many more reasons than just opening night).
by Andrea's evil twin on Sep 1, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
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