Carolina Franchise Makes Statement with Ward and Staal Contracts
Carolina Hurricanes General Manager Jim Rutherford is a happy man. Today, he locked up another "cornerstone" of his franchise for six more years. First it was Eric Staal, now it's Cam Ward. Rutherford said that during good times or bad, those are the two players he wants to build around. And who can blame him?
As a fan, whether you agree with the contract numbers or not, today is a significant point in franchise history. Peter Karmanos and Jim Rutherford are announcing to the rest of the NHL, as well as to the fanbase, that they are willing to make a major financial commitment to keep the right players. They want to win. This news has got to be reassuring, especially in these uncertain economic times.
It's not like that everywhere. Even in the NFL, there are some owners who always try to take the cheap way out. They will nurture a young player as long as he is affordable, but when that player reaches free agency, it's time to move on.
If this franchise was in financial difficulty or if it's future was in some type of uncertainty, do you think management would commit to this kind of money over these long terms? Of course not.
The franchise is making a very loud statement. "We are here to stay, we are here to win, and do not even think about trying to steal one of our RFA's".
Here at Canes Country, we have talked a lot about the virtues of both of these players recently and even speculated about how much Ward might sign for. (Congratulations to those of you who clicked 6 million). Still, the timing of the signing came as a bit of a surprise. Earlier this summer, the GM had mentioned that there was no rush to get the deal done. But today he said that they decided to focus on it once training camp broke.
Why did they wait until training camp to begin working on the contract? Perhaps after the GM saw first hand the talent level of the youngsters coming up the pipeline, he knew he could make the numbers work next year and in the future? Whether that had anything to do with the decision or not, future contract negotiations with current players who have expiring contracts next year, just got a bit more complex.
This signing along with the Staal deal means that starting next year, over 14.5 million of cap space is used between just those two players. The Canes should be able to afford this because they have good talent coming up the ranks earning entry level pay. Brandon Sutter, Zach Boychuk, Jamie McBain, and possibly Drayson Bowman could all be ready for the show. The bad news is that veteran players like Ray Whitney, Matt Cullen, Joe Corvo, Scott Walker, and Aaron Ward are due for new contracts next year and there will not be enough cap space to re-sign all of them. Who stays and who goes?
Hard decisions will need to be made next summer, for sure.
In the meantime, there is much rejoicing at 1400 Edwards Mill Road. Ward realizes that his contract places him among the top three goalies in the league and he will have the associated pressure to perform at that elite level. But he doesn't think that the pressure will bother him. "That's one reason I wanted to be a goalie, " he said.
Ward was quick to thank others for his achievements. He thanked his teammates and his coaches. He also singled out "one of the greatest goalies of all time", Tom Barrasso, as being instrumental to his success. Ward said that he and his wife fell in love with Raleigh and are very fortunate to live here.
"The fans are outstanding and the atmosphere is great ," said the goaltender.
Jim Rutherford gave the highest compliment one could give. "I would rather have Cam Ward here than any other goaltender in the league". High praise indeed coming from an ex-goalie and one of the best general managers in the league.
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Now I'm feeling pressure as a fan for Ward and Staal to perform well.
If they don’t we’re screwed for years to come. I have faith that Ward will earn his keep.
NHL Network reported we had 7 UFA’s next summer, I can’t figure out the 7th player they are talking about right at the moment.
As far as the young guns, please does anyone and I mean anyone think that they can just step in next season, cap space or no cap space and take over and just magically adjust to the veteran players they will up against in the NHL for our team? Ugh I think we all know what I think about that, with the exception of Sutter,,,It ain’t going to happen, I don’t care how great they do in the AHL, the Prongers, Ovenchickens, Avery’s, etc will eat them up and spit them out on the ice for at least their 1st year in the NHL. I don’t see Walker or Ward back (of course that’s a next summer discussion).
I would hate to be JR next summer.
Go Ward and Canes!
C
7 ufa’s? add Wallin and Mike Leighton to the list above. (Whitney, Cullen, Walker, Corvo, A Ward)
http://www.canescountry.com/pages/canes-salary-chart
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Technically, Yelle would make it eight.
by ncdavid on Sep 30, 2009 6:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Stupid iPod spellcheck. Conboy.
by Cory Lavalette on Sep 30, 2009 7:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I liked it when they played "Convoy"
for Conboy when he first came down
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Jenni – I think you’re giddy from the Wardo contract. It wasn’t really that funny. ;-)
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Sep 30, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I certainly think they can step up.
I doubt we’ll be seeing any of the young kids in top line/pairing positions, and most will have a full year of professional hockey and all that entails: improved levels of competition, pro-caliber strength and conditioning work, and learning how to handle themselves as adults. None are going to Sutter it, going straight from juniors to the bigs.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Oct 1, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention there are spots for most of the players next season. If Cullen isn’t re-signed or Brindy goes to the fourth line next season then there is a spot at #3 center for Sutter. Boychuk likely takes Walker’s spot, or possibly a Walker replacement is brought in for the fourth line and Samasonov is traded so Boychuk is in a top nine position. Bowman will play somewhere likely, but again Whitney is willing to re-sign for $1.5 million and ease the transition. McBain probably goes on the second pair D with A Ward (who hopefully signs a lower deal to stick around), while Gleason and Pitkanen are the top pair. No one is going to be counted on to do everything, only to do what they can, and if they do better, well then so much the better.
Embrace big ideas!
I hope your right about trading Samsonov to make some room; cap-wise and for Boychuk and Bowman. I also agree that Whitney would probably be an asset to re-sign so he can help mentor Boychuk.
What about sticking Rodney in a 4th line role, so he could help out on defense if in-game injuries happen?
Not really Mo’s style, and not something I’d be in favor of over a similar fourth line to what we have this year. Tommy K is under contract for next season already, so let’s slot Brindy there next year, and figure Walker on an 800K 1 year deal. I like that better than Rodney as an in case D-man.
Embrace big ideas!
Last push
I think with all of the contracts coming due this year and the plethora of youth in Albany this move shows that JR wants to make one more Stanley Cup push with an experience group of veterans before we bring the kids in next season.
Hopefully the time together in the AHL will build some strong chemistry and there won’t be too much of a learning curve in 2010.
Still not a crook!
Not that its uncommon but I see quite a few people saying this was too much money. Cams done more than both of the goalies making more than him.
As far as the UFA’s next year, I wouldnt be suprised if more than one signed for a discount, especially Corvo, Whitney and Ward. Cullen is likely looking at his last chance to make some money so I’d expect him to run for the money.
I see Walker accepting whatever JR offers next June too.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Sep 30, 2009 7:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think that Corvo is likely headed out. He’s 32 now and will be 33 next season. The Canes will likely want him on a two year deal at a reasonable price, but I bet that next season some teams will be wiling to go three or even four years for Corvo. Not to say that Corvo won’t decide to stay here. It’s likely those teams that offer him four years will be re-building, and he may wish to stay with a winning team (assuming here that the Canes are a winning team this season). He may also say that he’s done enough and the money is more important to him at this stage in his career. I think the latter will be the more likely outcome and that the Canes can’t nor should try to win a bidding war for Corvo.
Embrace big ideas!
With the number of d-men close to being full-time NHL contributors, I agree. Rodney’s a wild card in all this … if he continues to grow, he could slide into that Corvo PP slot. McBain surely has a future spot back there on special teams, too.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 1, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I started this on the previous thread and am wondering what you all think the shake out will be. Anyone care to guess? I think Cullen, Corvo and Whitney are the keepers, not sure about the rest…
A
are you asking who you think will stay (JR and the player’s choice) or who we, as passionate fans, want to stay?
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Sep 30, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Please, inquiring minds want to know
A conservative is someone who wants to get rid of all illegal immigrants,
Just as soon as those guys finish mowing his yard and building the shed
Jenni – did you catch any of Gleason on 99.9 tonight. Eegads – that place was packed with shrieking women – sounded like a Beatles concert in 1965. Timmy seemed quite flustered by it all. They were discussing whether hugs were an option with the photo op and insisting on a 5-second limit…Is this something we started ???
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Sep 30, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I need to check with Harwood as to whether having my name at the bottom of the page also earns me blog-ban powers…;)
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Sep 30, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know, I see Corvo as the odd man out, and possible trade bait. I don’t think he would be as valuable to keep as Whitney, and we have some young D men willing to step into that offensive minded role that Corvo plays.
That's pretty much what I think.
I might be crazy, but Joe seems replaceable.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Oct 1, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Your new Joe Corvo’s name is Jamie McBain. He’s a bit more defensively sound to boot!
Embrace big ideas!
Corvo is JR’s guy, JR has obsessions with certain players around the league and a lot of them are american born. Corvo IMO has found the market that fits his personality. I’m speculating but Corvo doesnt seem like a money guy, he wants to be comfortable and all the money in the world wont give him that. He’ll be back.
yeah...
but Corvo is also the type of guy who wears his heart on his sleeve… if he is offered less then he thinks he is worth- he might take it personally.
by packpigskinfan25 on Oct 1, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Whitney, Cullen, Walker.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Oct 1, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Whitney-staying
Corvo-staying
Cullen-staying
The rest will be sent packing along with a free stormy bobble head doll.
Walker is the only questionable one in the group, will see how good of a year he has. I think he’s like 60 so not to many hockey years left.
You think A-Ward will be gone in 2010? – Personally, I think he’s grooming himself to be Forslund’s new sidekick when Tripp’s contract is up. Until then, he’s in Hurricane’s jersey #4.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Sep 30, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
How’s your camera??? Can it be saved?
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Sep 30, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, it’s DOA. That’s the bad news. The good news was that my husband anticipated this moment and when I got home from work today there was a bright shiny new camera sitting on my desk. The old one was a lot more idiot-proof than the new one though, I fear I’ll actually have to learn how a camera is supposed to work to be able to use this one. Hoping to try it out at practice tomorrow, need to get in a couple of runs before opening night!
by Jamie Kellner on Sep 30, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow – nice husband. Tell him the Caniac Nation is indebted to him
I plan to be there tmrw as well and will look for you.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Sep 30, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems an appropriate tie-in
This is just another reason why I don’t mind tying up both of these players long-term. They’re not only exceptional athletes, but they’re also good people.
"Why did they wait until training camp to begin working on the contract?"
You used the word “focused,” not “began working on.” One would imagine that the foundation for this deal has been being developed for weeks, if not months.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
Cam Ward
It is way to soon to make a comment on this situation, I am adopting a wait and see attitude on this.
robert
Comment on Cam, Corvo, & Cullen
I understand Cam’s potential but I’d like to see one full, solid, regular season from him before handing out a six year contract. My playoff hangover is gone and I remember season’s ‘07, ’08.
I don’t understand everyone’s ambivalence for Corvo. He’s clearly a top four, or even top two D-man with some O-skills. They’re hard to find.
Likewise I don’t understand all the love for Cullen. His numbers are OK for a 2nd or 3rd line guy. Hebolted once for a few more bucks and if he tries for a big payday again I say let him go (again).
Check out Cam’s player page on TSN Link
He’s played in 60, 68, and 69 games. His SV% has climbed from .897 to .904 to .916. His GAA has dropped from 2.93 to 2.75 to 2.44. Now, I’m the first to admit he’s let in soft goals and that he can be more consistent. But those numbers are solid. He’s turned in not just one good year, but two and another one that was pretty decent for a young goaltender.
As for Corvo, I’m not ambivalent to him. I’d love for him to stay, but it’s a numbers game. The team has players down at the AHL team ready to go and ever more ready next season. Corvo will be a 33 year old UFA next season. The team has committed a lot of money already next season. Corvo might stay, but I think it’s more likely he takes a larger deal from another team. He will be missed, and none of the rookies will be a complete replacement right away, but those are the realities in a cap constrained league.
Embrace big ideas!
I'm not happy for obvious reasons....
Look at the logo over there on the right:
Yeah, that’s why I’m not happy Ward was extended. I’d rather see him playing in Edmonton or LA or somewhere out west, rather than stopping Ovie, Semin, etc.
Actually, this is a really great move by the ‘Canes and it will let Ward focus on hockey. If he has the type of year I think he might have, he’s going to get some serious Vezina consideration…
Let's go Caps!
Whitney – 80% chance he stays, as long as he take a pay cut.
Corvo – 60% chance he’s gone. Other teams will offer some crazy money and I don’t think the Canes will match them.
Walker – 50% chance he stays. If he takes a big pay cut, into the $750,000 range; he will probably stay. If he wants more, JR will let him walk.
Cullen – 75% chance he’s gone. IMO, he’s really a 3rd line center. He is probably looking for a payday and I don’t think he will get it from the Canes.
AWard – 70% chance he stays. I think he wants to retire here and he can help mentor the young kids next year.
Samsonov – 75% chance he stays. I know he is not in a contract year, but I hope the Canes will trade him away. Either going after a little more size or making room for Boychuck and Bowman.
Cullen left once and it didn’t suit him to well. I hope he signs a two year deal in the 3.5 range figuring he’s second center next year in front of Sutter, and then third the following behind Sutter.
Embrace big ideas!
PP17 – I like these % ’s. You make good sense.
If the Canes have a really deep run post-season, it would be interesting to see how they’d change. Some players would be worth more money (think: Scuderi) but others will want to hang around (think:Guerin) no matter the paycut. It would be interesting to hang on to these predictions and re-visit in June.
Let's go Canes!
Hakkaa Paalle!
by Carolyn Christians on Oct 1, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really see a case for Samsonov leaving. Either he had a good year in which case we wouldn’t want to trade him, or he has a crappy year and no one wants to take on his contract. Especially with the unease over the salary cap next year.
Plus, if he can stay on the third lnie this year that will go a long way towards making opposing teams put their first and second d line pairings on the ice for long periods of time, helping our third period scoring chances.
Also, I like watching him throw the body around, it is just funny.
The reason I talk about trading Samsonov is that we will have a lot of potential left wingers next year. If Whitney, Boychuk, and Bowman are on the team next year, that gives you 4 left wingers including Samsonov. Jokinen is a C/LW and if Walker returns to the 4th line with Kostop; where is everybody going to fit? If Walker doesn’t return, who do you stick on the 4th line, Boychuk or Bowman? Does that stunt their growth?
If you trade Samsonov, you give yourself more options IMO. Whitney stays on the 1st, Boychuk the 2nd, Bowman the 3rd, Walker the 4th and Jokinen could slip over the LW if needed.
You really think Corvo's going to get "crazy money?"
He’s pretty old to be hitting the FA jackpot.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
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