Mistakes Cost Carolina: Red Wings 3, Hurricanes 1
There are at least two things you do not want to do when you play against the Detroit Red Wings. You do not want to turn the puck over in your own end and you can not put that skillful bunch on the powerplay. The Carolina Hurricanes did just enough of both last night as the Wings put an end to the Hurricanes three game winning streak, 3-1.
The Red Wings scored goals after each of the first two penalties of the game against Carolina. When the Canes tightened things up by scoring a goal of their own in the third, a subsequent unforced turnover in their own end led to yet another goal for the home team, which in affect ended the game.
Cam Ward started his 14th consecutive game and played well. He was kept busy throughout most of the affair and even made one highlight reel save after he lost his mask.
Rookie Jerome Samson took the game's first penalty about midway through the first period. Nicklas Lidstrom would score from the point shortly afterward. The Hurricanes took plenty of shots that first period, but did not really get much traffic in front of Detroit goalie Jimmy Howard.
Just one minute and change into the second period, Jussi Jokinen was called for interference and Drew Miller scored for the Wings just nine seconds later.
In the third period, the Hurricanes started to put more pressure on in the Wings' zone. The line of Brandon Sutter, Tom Kostopoulos, and Jiri Tlusty came close a few times and finally cashed in when Kostopoulos knocked in a Sutter rebound.
It looked like the Canes had the home team on the run for a bit as they ramped up the pressure with the forecheck, but with about five minutes left, Niclas Wallin made a pass along the boards directly to Todd Bertuzzi, who then sent a perfect pass toward the crease that Henrik Zetterberg tipped past Ward. That was the game.
Game Notes:
- Wallin had a rough game as not only did he have the crucial turnover to Bertuzzi leading to Detroit's third goal, he also mishandled the puck after that which led to yet another steal and another near-goal. He ended up taking a hooking penalty as he tried to recover. Also, Cam Ward had to make an unsuspecting save earlier in the game as the defenseman nearly put the puck in his own net.
- Cam Ward made 32 saves on 35 shots and had a solid game.
- Brandon Sutter once again played an outstanding game. The kid is all over the ice and came close to scoring a couple of times. If only the rest of the team had his energy level.
- Tom Kostopoulos also continues to shine.
- Brett Carson led the team with four blocked shots. He and Tim Gleason were the only blueliners who were not credited with a giveaway in the game. Carson also finished at +1 and had three hits.
- Tim Gleason had six hits, a team high.
- The Hurricanes had 38 shots on goal as Ray Whitney and Joni Pitkanen had five shots each.
- The team went 0-2 on the powerplay and did not help their 28th overall ranking in the league.
Carolina will face Atlanta on Saturday night, the same team that destroyed them by scoring five consecutive goals in the third period to win the last time they were in Raleigh. It should be interesting.
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Wallin looked GREAT last night
Man, what a game by Nik Wallin last night. Real strong on the puck all night long, lots of hits, that time he let that Red Wing behind him on the first goal to screen Ward (with his help), the lazy reverse turnover that led to the third goal, and that awesome turnover/hooking penalty late in the game to kill the comeback. Complete game, glad we let Seidenberg go and kept him…oh and Stall, man, all over the ice, into every play, laying the body everywhere, pumping up his teammates. What a leader, give that man the “C” asap…
Let’s not forget Rod is captain right now, its not Staals place to step up(yet). Its not good for the locker room for players to be stepping on each others skates.
Staal will be the next CAPTAIN........get over it!
by canescup on Jan 15, 2010 7:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Staal’s skill set is not playing the body. However, I saw him making some really good transitions into the offensive zone, and even had a couple of key ’keep ins." There may be games where he is invisible, but just because he does not show up on score sheet does not mean he is not contributing.
Additionally, I felt Rod Brindamour had another solid game last night. I thought he made some real smart plays.
Wallin, however, was just the other side of horrific. He was part of the screen on goal against number one, was a party to the boobled play on goal # 2 had the reversal turnover on number 3, and nearly added one of his own to the back of our net.
Some positives: Boychuck looks like he needs a little more time in A to fully develop, but you can see the foundation of a solid player is already there. Dwyer, I am starting to really like more and more. I knew he was a good PK’er, but I never new he was the worker he was. Rosey’s spot is in jeopardy with Dwyer in town, unless Rosey can find that consistent scoring touch Tripp keeps advertising. Tlusty is doing pretty well so far. I think his point production and chemistry with Sutter is a promising sign for the future. As for Sutter, the kid is a building block piece that I hope we hang on to for a long time.
Some negatives. Cam Ward is playing lights out, but the team is doing little to help him in terms of clearing rebounds, and bodies from around the crease. Drew Miller does not find his way on the score sheet if people make him pay for parking in front of the crease.
Special teams looked horrible last night. The PK gave up 2 last night and on the ones that they didn’t, they really had to rely on Cam too much. You gotta keep the shots coming from the perimeter and at low % angles. Seemed the Wings owned from the dots down. The PP was equally bad. Sustained pressure is one of the keys to a successful man advantage and we had next to none.
O well, Taylor Hall here we come!
Well said.
Staal will be the next CAPTAIN........get over it!
by canescup on Jan 15, 2010 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I think Staal wasn’t invisible, but he does need to show up on the score sheet almost every night. I think that is what he is paid to do. I don’t really like the Whitney-Cullen-Staal line. I liked it when Jussi and Staal were together. I think Jussi has a way of finding the puck and being in the right position. With that said; Mo has tried almost every line combination imaginable – when can we see Staal and Sutter teamed together for a game or two?
I think Tlusty has improved, he’s “risen to the occasion” lately. Dwyer is a solid 4th liner that could move up every once in a while. Samson is a nice energy guy, I only wish he could kill penalties (he might, but I don’t know yet). I agree that Boychuk needs some more development in the AHL. He has some flashes, but I just don’t think he is there yet.
The D looked bad last night. Strike that, Wallin and AWard looked bad last night. AWard is just bad, either he doesn’t care or that punch last year knocked the ability out of him. Wallin has never been great, but last night was horrible. Maybe its just a really bad game for him, but man that was ugly.
I thought the first part of our first power play looked ok. Staal’s shots from the point were nice, I can’t remember him hitting the puck that hard. After that first unit went off the first time, the PP looked like sh*t. The second PP never really got the puck in the freaking zone for more than 3 seconds.
Those boards in Detroit are crazy, they definitely give the team fimilar with them an advantage. We are who we are, which is an average team that had a real bad start of the year/losing streak. I fully expect a much better performance from us on Saturday at home.
by PackPride17 on Jan 15, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I am also really glad that JR gave a career third pair guy like Niky a NTC. It shows the real class and intelligence that this organization has!
it always burns within
the downward spiral never ends
when driven into sin
your salvation's found in a sinner's deed
by Douchebag St John on Jan 15, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Trifecta
Wallin hit the 3rd period trifecta with his:
1. reverse turnover
2. middle-of-ice own-zone turnover
3. can’t-even-hook-decently penalty that resulted in Gleasonen having to take a slash penalty.
On the bright side, Toronto won. Edmonton’s got me nervous though.
What about at least 2 unmanageable passes to Gleason, one of which almost went in our goal, through Cam?
I love Nikki, won’t trash him as the source of our woes, but man, he was his own worst nightmare last night. He was in panic mode in those last 5 minutes. Good thing his roommate Gleason considers him his “brother by another mother”. Otherwise, we might be needing to call on cg to talk him down from the ledge.
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
It must have been the fact that he was playing against better Swedes and mistified him? Nik needs to be gone along with a few other disaster pieces on board. When is the real trading season gonna begin!?
by 3yrsnoplayoffs? on Jan 15, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I’m with you on Wallin HM. I love him, but he was bad last night. Like A.Ward bad with that last turnover being the proverbial icing on the cake of awful. Although in his defense, my feed showed the puck bouncing a little before it got to him so perhaps he didn’t screw that play up all on his own.
"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!
Oh and I would be more than happy to talk any of them away from the ledge.
"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!
Oh and I would be more than happy to talk any of them away from the ledge.
By standing at the bottom and yelling " JUMP! "
it always burns within
the downward spiral never ends
when driven into sin
your salvation's found in a sinner's deed
by Douchebag St John on Jan 15, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I respect Wallin but what bugged me was that his reverse give-away, while aptly described by TrippTracy, led to one of Tripp’s more embarassing Homeristic ramblings.
That Nik Must have done it because Bertuzzi tricked him by calling out. Yeah right, probably in Swedish too. How about he just made a bad play.
by drifterscape on Jan 15, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
also, on the play where cammie had his mask knocked off, wallin was standing right in front of him and screening him, and even bumped into ward as he scrambled to make his maskless save. you can see highlights on ch.com video
by Capt. Stinky on Jan 15, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
So true. Wasn’t he also in the way when Lidstrom’s shot from the blue line went in (which Cam never saw)?
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
Love love love Sutter. Carson is taking shape – got a bunch of minutes. Love TKO’s minutes going up. Tlusty has some moves, doesn’t he?
Boychuk needs more seasoning to help him see the play better, I think – but I still seem him as a great hybrid of Whitney and LaRose.
I hope Cam’s maskless save makes highlights next week. Great save, and visually stunning.
So we lost….yawn.
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 8:36 AM EST reply actions
yeah, all great points, although i’m not 100% sold on boychuck just yet. i think he needs more albany seasoning, as does samson
by Capt. Stinky on Jan 15, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Samson had deceptively long reach. There were a couple times where I thought the puck would get chipped up the boards but Jerome managed to beat the defender to the puck. That happened a few times.
Stinky, I’m with you on Boychuk.
Albany why? Keep him here and get NHL level exper. or do you think Rod plays better for this team, or Wallin, or Yelle….
He is the fastest player on the ice every night, I think he should stay up with the big boys and have his TOI increased. What’s the matter you think we can hit 31st place? Maybe we accelerate his learning curve and wind up with an assassin next year?
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I know Boychuk is fast, but 22-yr old Darren Helm beat him down the length of the ice going side-by-side in one race to the puck. No contest. Helm was faster.
And glove tap to the fanshot which made me keep an eye on Helm during the game. Adds just one more dimension to watching the game.
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Helm is really hard to beat to the outside no matter who he’s going up against. Not necessarily an indictment of LilChuck’s abilities. And you’re welcome. :)
"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!
Okay, sure. The time I was referring to was an open ice footrace (no boards, no contact) to the puck. Helm pulled away from Boychuk though both appeared to be pushing it as hard their legs could carry them. I had to look twice and make sure that was Boychuk who got beat cause it was not who I expected.
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry I was sorta lumping them together in my mind. What I meant was that Helm has really good straightaway speed which you likely saw then and would also see when he pulls the classic Cole move.
"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!
I thought Boychuk was supposed to have the best straightaway speed. I know he’s got plenty quickness (like the Wizard) in his hands (still working on that between the ears – but it will come, not a slam), but I thought we’ve seen him win those kind of races most times. That was the first time I saw him get beat.
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
I noticed that too and was quite surprised that Boychuk was being left behind. Of course I don’t go goo goo over the men on the fanshots so I didn’t know who Helm was other than a man in a red suit with some obvious speed.
"Last season we couldn't win at home and we were losing on the road. My failure was that I couldn't think of any place else to play." - Harry Neale
by hotchipsnsalsa on Jan 15, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
You don’t have to go goo goo. But a sneak peak doesn’t hurt. Promise.
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
If you rush Boychuk to fast, it might cause damage long-term. Some kids take a little longer to develop than others. Yeah he’s fast, but he’s not where he needs to be right now.
And everybody here knows Rod should be gone, but there’s not a lot anybody can do about it. If you play him, maybe another team sees something in him and trades for him. If you sit him in the press box, no GM is going to touch him.
by PackPride17 on Jan 15, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
to Stinky – exactly my point on Boychuk. He’s a year behind Sutter, & just came out of juniors last spring. He just needs to learn what works and what doesn’t in the NHL. He’s smart enough and he is motivated enough – has lots of heart and I know he will figure it out, and he will be great. Just not there yet.
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Love TKO’s minutes going up.
So far as I can see he and Timmy are the only guys on this team with any sack whatsoever.
it always burns within
the downward spiral never ends
when driven into sin
your salvation's found in a sinner's deed
by Douchebag St John on Jan 15, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
So big money is invisible, the geriatric duo is thinking shuffleboard and Nic “the double agent” Wallin is unleashed. I think we are due for the return of a couple meatcicles! CG and I were debating whether or not this season represents the 9th plane of heell loww or not and to me it is. When I watch a game against the wings the last 10 yrs I expect the Canes to be underdogs. Last night I wanted the wings and the twigs to win. Need to keep the only hope for this season alive, the draft. If that ain’t as low as you can get, I’m scared.
Staal once again didn’t show up for a game. At 6 mill. and an 8.25 mill cap hit, I expect him to have Sutteresk effort every game AND produce. Why is Rod getting more minutes? Outside of a couple posters here, everybody knows he’s done. Roll that corpse into the booth with tripp, he’s goalie ya know. Wallin just proved why I dislike him, too bad he didn’t get a too many men on the ice penalty for the wings. I think it’s pretty clear why Yelle was cheap.
So poor Lil Chuck knows to go to the net, gets punished by the team that owns Homer the Crease Killer. At least he knew where he should be. Was the same for about all the Rats. They showed up, the money guys didn’t. Sutter is living up to a big family name and is showing what he wants to do. He wants to dominate games. I remember when #12 had that fire.
So here we are with another loss to a mediocre team. We are going to send probably 2 players down to the Rats. I think when all the injured guys are back, Rats hockey will be more entertaining than the Canes. All the nay sayers about bringing up the Rats have to think about the fact that the only winning this team did was when we had the most Rats up.
Are all the Rats NHL ready? Nope. Are they getting better training at this level? Hell yea. One of my favorites is Lil Chuck. I think he has a ways to go, and should therefore be kept up and TOI increased. He’s gonna learn a helluva lot more here than in Albany. He obviously has the skill, that can’t be taught, he isn’t so far out of the mix that he’s gonna get hurt, I’d like to see him get alot more ice time and get the kid in the groove. Samson and Tlusty, too, but there isn’t the roster space, so one at a time. I’d go with that speedy little shit Boychuck. If he get’s a NHL A game going he is gonna be an assassin.
I think Edwards Mill is the 9th plane of hell for hockey fans.
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Sorry- help me out – who is this “Homer the crease killer” who seems to have popped up in the last couple stories on the wings? What’s the backstory here?
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Tomas Holmstrom is your prototypical front of the net player. He stands there with his hockey butt on the goalie’s face practically and cleans up rebounds all day long. He can really mess with goalies who can’t handle traffic in the crease.
"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!
I was thinking it was a wing D-man cleaning out his own crease preventing our guys trying to do same. Gotcha.
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
CG is on the money. Homer is like a fireplug in the goalies grill cleaning up crap in front of the net. Homer evn pisses off his own guys at prctice. It flatr out sucks having a guy in front of you all the time that sweeps up any garbage you drop.
I wish we had him!
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And this, wonder of wonders, is where Paladin and I are on the same page. Homer is what we were hoping for when we drafted Ladd. A big body who will sit in fornt of the net, suffering crosschecks, and elbows, waiting for that puck that bounces of your goalies kicker, or the on that gets tangled in your emperor’s, errrrr I mean Defenseman’s skates.
( Sorry for the gleason cheap shot, it was easy and I was feeling a little aggressive after having agreed with paladin on something)
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
It’s alright. I’m sure Gleason beat himself up about it a little too. That whole play was just ugly from start to finish.
"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!
truthfully there was no time for him to really react. I don;t blame him too much for that.
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Ha ha, just means your right for once!
Sorry couldn’t resist. I agree 100% a garbage sweeper would do wonders for this team if they would just shoot the dam puck. That is also one job our kids can’t do. Lil Chuck got thrown around like dirty laundry when he crashed the net and Sutter ain’t much heavier. Need a stout fella for that job.
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Something about a blind dog and bone comes to mind! LOL.
With that type of player, we maybe win last night. Howard did NOT have great rebound control. There were seconds to be had, but no one was bellying up to the table.
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Except the great TommyK. That was a ripe juicy one and he grabbed it.
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that is how you beat a goalie like Howard, net presence.
Homer’s bread and butter is usually to be parked and bang on anything that ends up loose, ( boy paladin is gonna eat that one up) where as K’s goal was as much about movement as it was position.
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
yeah I left that one in your wheel house.
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I liked the “double agent” comment.
I’m still not sold on Boychuk. Would like to see more Samson.
by drifterscape on Jan 15, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
Rod is finished.
He made that perfect centering pass in the second period right in front of the Net.
(Oh wait, that was to a Detroit player!)
by CanesFanFromLI on Jan 15, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Dude I Am going to argue with you on this every effin time. Call out people when they truly have bad games, but Staal and Rod did NOT have bad games. Hell even A Ward wasn’t as huge liability. Wallin sucked eggs for sure, but Your favorite whipping boys did not play badly.
I also think you are dead wrong on Boychuck. He needs to be in Albany for a while longer. He has the foundation, but his game needs to have a major offensive element, and I don’t think he has found confidence in his offensive instincts/abilities at the pro level. He is closer to confident at the A level. Let him rediscover his shot down there, get hot and then let’s get him up here.
I agree, Boychuk’s had his taste of the NHL. Now go back to Albany and play 20+ minutes a night against kids your own age.
by drifterscape on Jan 15, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I agree. Let me digress on why I think this about Boychuk. It reminds me of when I played tennis and was really starting to get serious about strategy and setting up points. I would try certain things (little small in-the-moment decisions) and if they didn’t work, I wasn’t sure if it was because it was the wrong decision or because I didn’t execute well enough against a smarter/stronger opponent. When I asked my coach she said it was the 2nd. My decisions were good, but I needed to be able to practice them in a less challenging situation to perfect them. It’s a subtle game of inches sometimes, and needs to be executed perfectly for the magic to work. (Whitney is the master)
I think that’s what LilChuk needs. This run of NHL games is expanding his very keen mind to what’s possible. He can take all that he’s seen and head back to Albany (where many of the players are NHLers at some time past or future), and get these decisions nailed until their instinctual. Then we can reap the rewards when he comes back. Guaranteed.
Gleason for the "C" :
Just what do we need to do to make this happen?
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 15, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
EXCELLENT post! This is true. We have to remember that this kid was in Juniors last year playing against boys. BOYS. I know he wants to go, and I love that about him. I think he has a bright future ahead of him, but I don’t want to compromise that rushing him along. ESPECIALLY in a lost season like the one we are in.
While Paladin may want the rats up, to gain lots of NHL experience, we gotta remember the experience they are getting now is experience losing. While that does have some merits, they also need some pro experience at winning. They can get that in Albany.
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Actually now that we got a slew of Rats we have the best winning streak we have had all year.
Just saying…
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One little win streak of 3 games, we are still plugging along at a near .500 clip.
Besides, who wants win streaks. I thought we were all about losing out for Hall?
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Oh I agree just saying “Just saying” the best the team has played all year and you threw the last few wins out the window as if they were meaningless….wait, we still aren’t gonna make the PO’s…Maybe it is meaningless..
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not meaningless, but we also have to consider that one of the games in that streak was TO, any other opponent and it is just a stretch of .500 hockey!
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
staal (i.e. “stall”) had a lazy ass game, and rod was horrible as well (i.e. centering pass to a red wing, getting knocked off the puck, etc.)
by Capt. Stinky on Jan 15, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
sorry but one mistake does not make a horrible game.
And I really don’t see how you say Staal had a lazy game. When his line was on the ice he was constantly the first man in. I just think if he is not putting up 2 or 3 points in a game you guys just automatically assume he is floating. I have to be honest, we take Staal off of the roster and this team is nowhere near as good. You pair him either with a true first line winger, or put him on the wing and pair him with a true first line center and he is flirting with 90 points a season. Tell me one quality player who produces consistently who is playing with what would be third liners on any other squad in the league. Name me one.
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing on paper=Staal was lazy. Deal with the fact. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Staal doesn’t paid to be a line member. He get’s paid to be a line leader. Look at Sutter, he got an assist. He faced the same lines and pairings, why can’t Staal if Sutter can?
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Sutter’s assist was a wierd shot on goal and TK was charging the net in the right position. I love Sutter, but you can’t honestly say that was a hell of pass or something. Staal had some shots that produced rebounds, but none of his linemates were in the right position. His pass to Cullen resulted in a good scoring chance, but Howard actually stopped the shot.
Stall had an average game and he is paid/relied upon to do more, but seriously get off your Staal sucks kick. He’s not the reason this team stinks.
by PackPride17 on Jan 15, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
His lack is a piece of it. I didn’t say he sucked, I said he was lazy.
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If you want to use that argument, then the kids lack of experience is contributing to the team suckiness.
by PackPride17 on Jan 15, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
I know you like the kids and I do to. I think they’ll be big contributors. You also tend to cut them a little slack. I know Staal has more experience, but he is younger than Dwyer.
by PackPride17 on Jan 15, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
The difference is coverage. Sutter aint seeing the same coverage as Staal is. Every timeStaal has the puck there are two people on him. Suter is not seeing that.
To say he is lazy because he is not on the scoresheet is insane. I agree, we are relying on him to be our main producer, and to that effect he has come up short this year. But it is not because he is lazy.
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
My grandmother taught me long ago that paper would just lie there and let you write anything on it. Same goes for internet posting. Just because you say the same stuff over and over doesn’t make it any truer, Paladin6.
It just isn’t the black-and-white world you seem to want it to be (vets suck, kids are great). Boychuk is an incredible developing talent that happens to have some serious defensive deficiencies that will have to be fixed before he will ever see any significant NHL ice time. Jeff Daniels and 20 minutes of ice time on a top line in Albany is the cure, not fourth line minutes stunting his growth. Also, occassionally, the vets you so hate do have a good game. They do not always and consistently suck.
Just sayin’.
Rod and Yelle consistantly suck, not sure what you have been watching. The simple fact that the more Rats we get the better the team is doing seems lost upon you. I guess facts tend to do that to people who refuse to admit when they are wrong. Plan B right?
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I really thinks it sucks that our #2 line outshines our #1 line on most nights. Why in the world is Sutter not our 1st line center?
by 3yrsnoplayoffs? on Jan 15, 2010 9:27 AM EST reply actions
Do we still have a backup goalie?
What happened to Legacy? Does Maurice plan on using Cam for every game for the rest of the season? Why does he never give his backups playing time, then when they finally do play they’re so rusty their ineffective. Tripp mentioned something about Cams back last night, so why not take a day off? It’s not like we’re playing for anything important.
Just annoys me that Leighton got no work before Cam was injured. (Oh wait he did have one start, the day after his wife gave birth) That was an ideal time to bring him in. He was set up for failure by Maurice, then went to Philly where he showed that he is a capable NHL goalie.
Leighton
Everyone is so shocked that Leighton has played as well in Philly as he has. I am not at all. It’s simply good coaching. The Hurricanes are unable to properly use a backup goalie and that alone will keep us from ever getting very deep in the future.
A backup goal is a very important part of a hockey team. It is beyond me why we don’t recognize that and treat the position with respect.
I can watch Wallin or A. Ward ruin game after game without my blood pressure increasing a bit. But it’s the ‘coaching’ staff on this team that drives me ABSOLUTELY INSANE.
agreed. The sad thing is, When I look at Mo, I just see apathy. Who the hell let’s their team go on a 14 game losing streak and doesn’t bag skate his squad once in there? People make fun of Lavi for being gum spitting mad, but at least he freaking cared and held players responsible.
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree with your idea that no backup will prevent us from going deep simply because we went to ECF’s last year.
But I totally agree with the idea that ‘Canes Staff has a very different idea than at least you and I about what a backup goalie is supposed to do. And JR used to be a goalie so I’m really confused what their doing.
by drifterscape on Jan 15, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I should have substituted ‘deep’ with ‘all the way’.
I don’t remember Lavi playing a backup much but he had Johnny Crackers for crying out loud. I wasn’t around for MO1. Is this MO’s M.O. or does it come from somewhere else in the org. JR? Barrasso?
Mo1 played his goalie Irbe as much as Jersey plays Brodeur. Every day.
Cracker(good one) was Lavi’s boy even after it was obvious he was washed up. They still kept him around.
So it gets back to why don’t we find a decent backup and play him. It’s been like that since before Barasso so it must come from JR.
by drifterscape on Jan 15, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Although as I actually think about it the one time I can say we had a good backup was with K.Weekes. And Irbe freaked out when he got demoted to #2. So they did try. Once.
by drifterscape on Jan 15, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
When you look at Leighton’s performance at Philly it looks like we already had a quality backup goalie.
Which goes back to my initial point, Mo so mis-managed our backup that he was setup for failure.
Now we have Legacy who hasn’t started a game in a month, so I doubt he’ll be effective in his next start.
During the regular season you can start you number one goalie 75%, your backup around 25% of the time. This gives number 1 an occasional rest, and number 2 the work he needs. When the playoffs come around you generally stick with the number 1 guy unless something bad happens, then hopefully your backup is ready to fill in.
by CanesFanFromLI on Jan 15, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with all your points, but of course part of the success of a backup is how the team in front of him responds too. Leighton has a slightly better defense in front of him, coupled with the fact the Flyers are playing better and they frankly didn’t have a #1 guy in place with Emery injured.
But to the original point, I agree in that the coach needs to at least have a plan, whether it’s rotation (as some teams are doing), splitting back to back nights, riding the hot hand, whatever. Iif they’re going to evaluate who they have at forward and defense, they might as well do so in goal too, especially if they any thoughts on bringing Legace back for another year.
Ok so good things-the second line is outstanding. We may have really hit gold with that combination. The Rats had some good moments too. Cam looked really strong last night (including against his own team) and that maskless save was just Camtastic. We’re seeing playoff form Cam right now, it’s just a shame that most of his team looks like their still playing preseason games. What else? I didn’t really notice A.Ward last night so he can’t have been that bad. And that pretty much sums it up doesn’t it?
"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!
Cam is indeed one of the things that is going consistently right every single game right now.
He’s doing what you want a franchise goalie to do. Keep us in every game and take us home when we have the lead.
If the team was at his level, we’d be Cup contenders.
Couldn’t agree more.
"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!
by caniacgirl on Jan 15, 2010 11:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The emergence of Tom Kostopoulos off of Mo’s “I don’t know you!” list to significant minutes with some talent at his side has certainly been a positive experience.
We’re now seeing some of what was advertised, and perhaps a bit more. Glad to see him with us next year on the second year of his contract.
Off-topic but puckdrops just tweeted that Samson is headed back down and Drayson Bowman is getting called up for Atlanta.
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
is this just a, rotate to see what we got kind of thing, or is there something else at play?
by wylde4canes on Jan 15, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I was wondering the exact same thing.
"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!
by caniacgirl on Jan 15, 2010 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions





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