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Clicks and Clippings: A worthwhile trip

Following their second win in as many days, the Carolina Hurricanes salute their 350 fans who made the trip to Helsinki Finland for the 2010 NHL Premiere Games. (photo by LTD)

As Cam Ward put it: "Man, what a worthwhile trip." Amen.

[Instant digression: because it is so relevant to why the Hurricanes (and everyone who roots for them) is so relieved pleased to open the season this way. The Hockey News: Adam Proteau: Must-win games start in October The NHL season is underway, but rather than ease into the competition, teams have to start strong to keep their playoff dreams burning.]


Suomi Stories

 

Here's a super gallery of photos from Friday's game via the Finnish press, plus a few google-translated recaps and focus stories from Helsinki.

Ruutu is no longer räpeltänyt but räppäsi quotes Tuomo Ruutu (may translate at Tom Box or Diamond or Screen) to say:

- It's great that the first goal was just here. And it was still pretty good place. So happy to be. Here was a pretty great play. And in addition we were able, during the week with the team, to eat well and have a sauna, so a very nice week this was.

Skinner rate of NHL games -  www.jatkoaika.com has this from the teenager of the hour: I'm just trying to work hard in every shift. I'm playing with two excellent players (Ruutu and Jokinen), which makes it a lot easier.

Brind'Amour new role -  www.jatkoaika.com Former Hurricanes captain was his usual modest self and was surprised to journalists' requests to exchange a few words. "Hey, I'm not a player anymore", Brind'Amour said with a smile. 

Skinner's moment, video highlights, couple recaps, and specifics to participate with me during my guest spot on a hockey podcast Sunday evening, for which I am the guest of significantly lesser importance... after the jump.

Star-divide

So how's about Jeff Skinner?

 

You'll recognize the name of Canes Country regular Raccoon Fink who captured Skinner's shoot out goal on video, and instantly got it on youtube. Skinner can thank him for the way it has now been picked up in the hockey blogosphere and facebook. (plus closing in on 1700 views at the site). As Yahoo! Sports hockey prospects blog, Buzzing the Net, put it: 

Kitchener Rangers fans love-hated seeing this: Jeff Skinner scored the shootout winner for the Carolina Hurricanes on Friday, so it's too good not to post.

The Hurricanes Media Relations Director (and de facto campaign manager for the Skinner for Calder movement)  Mike Sundheim was still tweeting about the Skinner's shoot out goal after returning to Raleigh this morning, adding some statistical significance (courtesy of Elias Sports Bureau) to what was both a very cool hockey move and very cool hockey moment. Here's what he added:

Jeff Skinner is the 13th player to score in a shootout before netting 1st goal of his NHL career & the 1st 'Cane to do so. According to Elias Sports Bureau, Skinner yesterday became the youngest player to record a point in franchise history. Skinner was 18 yrs, 145 days. Prev. mark was Paul Lawless, who notched his first point at 18 years, 172 days in Dec. 1982. Skinner also became 3rd-youngest player to score in shootout, behind Sam Gagner (18 yrs, 76 days) & Sidney Crosby (18 yrs, 95 days)

 

Once more, 14 seconds for posterity:


 

And here is one very endearing postgame interview (yes, hockeymom is totally hooked):

 



Recaps

This link will get you to the video highlights: NHL : Highlights: MIN 1, CAR 2 (SO)

Wild at Hurricanes - 10/08/2010: NHL.com's Recap:  Cam Ward stopped 41 shots while rookie Jeff Skinner scored the lone shootout goal in a 2-1 Hurricanes win over the Minnesota Wild at Hartwall Areena in Helsinki, Finland.

Canes beat Wild, 2-1, in shootout - NewsObserver.com 

and more post game video from...

Paul Maurice:

 

 

Cam Ward:

 


Tuomo Ruutu:  

 

And hearing Brandon Sutter recount what he saw from Skinner when Mo called his name to lead the shoot-out is first class shenaninganizing.


 

 

The Canes posted this slideshow of the best of their times in Helsinki.Sights of Helsinki - Carolina Hurricanes Photos

Recap of the game and the trip from Minnesota's beat reporter Michael Russo: Wrapping up Finland trip, and the difference in media culture | StarTribune.com Cam Ward was absolutely scintillating. I sat right behind him to the right, at least where he stood for two periods, for two games in a row, and when Ward is on, he’s as good as it gets in the NHL. And unfortunately for the Wild, he was on.

When twitter is the perfect medium: Again from Mike Sundheim, on board the plane before leaving Helsinki, who tweeted this image of Joni Pitkanen and his cocker spaniel Iiris who was enjoying the charter flight to her new home in Raleigh. Seems like the little pooch got distracted on her way down the 22" wide aisle. Imagine if you let her loose on a sheet of ice measuring 85 x 200?

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Elsewhere

 

The fast-growing hockey podcast "CCPT" invited me to join them tomorrow (Sunday) evening, from 6 to 8 pm, where I will be a guest. We'll be talking about the Hurricanes and anything else that seems pertinent. Here's the link to listen - and please call in. I'll tweet a reminder before it starts as well. The weekly show is hosted by Su Ring and Cassie McClellan, who write for SBN's From the Rink (Cassie is also a lead writer for Tampa Bay's Raw Charge). That other "important" guest who will be on the air with me? Greg Wyshynski, known across in the hockey blogosphere as Yahoo! Sports' "Puck Daddy". (Now what the heck am I gonna wear!?... wait, never mind.)

Our Hurricanes and Carolina favorite Matt Cullen were not the only familiar faces participating in the European tour of the NHL this October. In Stockholm, Niclas Wallin and Mike Commodore are playing back to back. Here's a funny quote from Wallin after getting called for diving from the Taking Stock-holm with Lozo blog  "It is what it is. If he calls me a diver, I'm a diver," Wallin said. "That's probably the first diving call I had in my whole hockey and soccer careers. I don't know. It's part of the game and it happens. I've got the puck and I've got the advantage behind the net and I'm starting to skate straight up and he pushed my knee forward. If he calls that a dive, it's his call. But I thought it was funny."

Did you know that Teemu Selanne has a blog? And it's all in Finnish

On a more bad news/good news line, Atlanta Thrashers goalie Ondrej Pavelec seems to be relatively fine, all things considered, after collapsing on the ice, without any apparent cause early in the season opener versus the Washington Capitals last night. Once more, with reports flying on twitter last night, it was a strange way to start the season in Atlanta. What was also strange? After going winless in the preseason, the Thrashers handily beat the presumed titans of the Southeast Division, 4-2. 

For fantasy hockey savants, you'll likely enjoy this recount of the Yahoo! draft from Tuesday night: A look at Zach Parise and Eric Staal's Y! fantasy hockey teams - Puck Daddy With his first pick -- third overall -- Parise went with Tampa Bay Lightning sniper Steven Stamkos. At No. 6, Staal selected Parise with the New Jersey forward responding, "good pick".

Just cuz: NHL Finishes Freezing Water For 2011 Season | The Onion - America's Finest News Source The National Hockey League announced Thursday that it had finished freezing an estimated 480,000 gallons of water, ensuring that every opening game of the 2010-2011 season would be played completely on ice.

Finally, Perry vs.....Datsyuk? Video Here is the season's first Gordie Howe hat trick, thanks to No-more-LadyByng Pavel Datsyuk.  

Don't forget the Checkers open their season tonight at 7pm in Hartford. They've posted a game preview with links to listen online. Brett Carson, Justin Pogge, and Bobby Sanguinetti are en route, and though they won't play tonight, it's possible they'll go when the Checkers take on Springfield Falcons at 3PM Sunday.

Last, the Hurricanes practice schedule through their departure Wednesday for Ottawa has been added to the Canes Country Calendar as well. 

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I can't believe no one has commented on this yet...

“sneak Tim Gleasonin between your legs” from the finnish pics link! Guess he’s Finnish after all….

That’s hilarious on so many levels.

by Raccoon Fink on Oct 9, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

And...

I don’t know what a “huitomalla” is, but I don’t think I want mine violated.

McBain mail violates his huitomalla

by Raccoon Fink on Oct 9, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

RF – you’re home?? Still in DC?

Twitter @HMof2

by Carolyn Christians on Oct 9, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hilarious pic with Pits and Clutterbuck. I also enjoyed the “Rub an opponent’s face” one.

by rubyhawk on Oct 9, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

MUST….REFRAIN….FROM….COMMENTING…

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Oct 10, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing even remotely close to PG13 can come out of that ;)

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Oct 10, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

so glad you all stumbled up on this.

Twitter @HMof2

by Carolyn Christians on Oct 10, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s so many dirty comments, you don’t really know where to start do you?

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Oct 11, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

nope ;)

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Oct 11, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Canes and Caniacs Rocking In Helsinki

Canes and Caniacs Rocking in Helsinki

It speaks volumes that approximately 350 Hurricanes fans gathered in Helsinki to cheer the Hurricanes. By contrast, Minnesota which claims to be the State of Hockey had somewhere in the neighborhood of 125 fans attending the game. What was clear from being at Hartwall Areena was that the Caniacs were vastly more numerous and considerably more energized that the Wild contingent. I haven’t had a chance to see if www.NHL.com has the games available in Archives, but I assume they do. I am hoping that the video captures the intensity of the Caniacs’ enthusiasm.

Hartwall Areena is an excellent site for hockey. Our seats were in the first section. There were fans for the Wild on either side of us. I felt the Wild fans were fun people who were a pleasure to be around. All of the Wild fans I encountered where quite down to earth. I imagine both the Wild hockey fans and the Caniacs shared enough of a passion for hockey that we would fly a minimum of 7,000 miles to cheer on our teams.

From what I had been told by Juha Hitela, Finnish hockey fans tend to be somewhat less vocal than the Caniacs. When we arrived at Harwall on Thursday for Game 1, I had no idea what to expect from the Finnish hockey fans. As we entered the arena, making a substantial amount of noise, with a loud and proud contingent of Red and Black, I am fairly certain the Finns didn’t exactly know what to make of us or how to take us. On the jumbotron, Ruutu was giving an explanation of the Caniacs and explained how the Caniacs would wooo wooo after a goal.

The excitement and nervous energy was building as we waited for the Hurricanes to take to the ice. Once the fog hog sounded and the Canes came out, the sound and energy in the Arena went ballistic. Both teams had times where they were clearly nervous; and passes were bouncing off sticks or missing their mark on both sides.
Sutter then stepped up and in all phases of his game, he took over the game. It may not have shown on tv, but watching in person, Sutter simply imposed his will to win over the Wild team. I thought Harrison had a couple of shaky shifts at the start of the game, and I was wondering if a new, younger Aaron Ward was going to emerge to haunt the Canes. To every Caniac’s relief and delight, Harrison settled down and played a strong game. My view is that Harrison needs to follow the Dean Smith philosophy of know your own limitations as a player and stay within those boundaries.

Skinner has been much written about and he is an outstanding young player. He has a special gift that few players possess of being able to see the play before it develops, so he is always ahead of the play. He also has the ability to get to spots on the ice before anybody else. I think Skinner is still trying to sort out what to make of the Caniacs; and their rabid support of the Canes players.

The Finnish fans were very supportive of Ruutu, Jokinen, and Pitkanen; but they seemed to be slightly favoring Mikku Koivu as their favorite among favorite players. Jokinen, Ruutu, and Pitkanen, however, were the impact players among the Finnish players. Jokinen in his quiet way, had an outstanding game. Ruutu seems to be under fairly strict orders to play with a physical edge, but to use at least a small degree of discretion so as to keep himself healthy to the degree feasible. He is a great skater and was a force out on the ice.

I was told and agreed by a couple of non-Hurricane hockey commentators at the game that they felt Pitkanen was the best player on the ice for Game 1. When Pitkanen takes the puck, and goes to full steam, nobody, even Cole or Staal, can catch up to him. Tim Gleason and Corvo played very solid games. At times Corvo tried passes that didn’t make it through, but he didn’t retreat into a shell afterwards; and I thought he played with confidence throughout the game.

Cole is really skating well; and I am very happy he is using creativity on offense. Specifically, I am not seeing him get trapped in the corner and he is taking the puck to the middle of the ice after making move. Staal was skating hard as well; even if he has not yet gotten his first goal. LaRose continues to develop as a leader on and off the ice. You could hear him barking out instructions to the some of the younger players, such as "back, back, back". I suspect that as the season progresses, LaRose will drop back to a third or even fourth line slot; but with heavy responsibilities on the penalty kill. LaRose keeps up with Staal and Cole, and the speed of that line is impressive. Neither Cole nor LaRose would win puck handling skills competitions at the ASG, but they both get to the net with a purpose.

Dalpe is going to be a special player for the Hurricanes, I think. He looks as if he has grown another inch and a half in height since training camp started. Dalpe has an inner calm; and continues to gain confidence. I like him as the third line center; but I would really like to see both Skinner and Dalpe get some shifts with Sutter and under the right circumstances with Staal. Dalpe played a very solid two games, I thought. He is a threat to score every time he gets his hands on the puck.
    O’Sullivan showed show excellent poise, puck handling, and passing. He is still in an adjustment process of learning how to play Hurricanes hockey. He had flashes where he was all over the ice gathering pucks and disrupting the Wild’s flow of the game. At other times, he was less noticeable on the ice. Kostopoulos is his usual warrior self. He plays within his game with remarkable consistency. Particularly, in the second game against the Wild, he played a strong game.

Babchuk is a much, much improved skater; and in game two he took the puck through traffic quite well. I prefer to see Babchuk paired with someone other than Harrison due to Harrison’s lack of pure foot speed; but Babchuk can make a huge difference for the Hurricanes. McBain continued to play with confidence and poise, even if at times he tried some passes that didn’t connect. I think that some of the players are having to adjust their own positional play to take into account the fact that McBain can put pucks on their sticks from seemingly impossible angles – so they have to assume if they are open, the pass is coming.
In Game 2, Cam Ward stole the game for the Hurricanes. That game answers the question, does an NHL team need an elite goalie or not? When Ward gets into that zone he can steal 3 to 5 games a season. In my view, when Ward is on his A game, the Hurricanes are a playoff team. I do give the defense credit in Game 2. They played soundly in terms of sealing the crease; but allowing 41 shots is the opposite of ideal. Skinner’s shootout goal was one of the most thrilling moments I’ve seen in Hurricanes hockey. How many 18 year olds have the talent, poise, and focus to travel overseas for their first NHL games, get the call to shoot first in the shootout, and then bury the shot with a sick, sick move?

After game 2, the Hurricanes team skated out and as a group gave a hockey stick salute to the Caniacs at Hartwall. Moments like that seal the dedication of the Caniacs to the team, and to the organization. There was a lunch with the Hurricanes team on Wednesday, October 6th, and among the speakers was Peter Karmanos. Karmanos’ tone was one of genuine appreciation for the fans, and specifically the Caniacs who came to Helsinki. I sat at the table with Tom Rowe and he too spoke of the fact that players across the NHL would love to play for the Hurricanes due to the way they are treated by the fans, the coaches, their teammates, and the organization. Rowe is not only an encyclopedia of hockey, he still carries with him a youth enthusiasm about hockey in general and the Hurricanes team in particular.
I also really enjoyed getting to know better some of the Caniacs who were at games. After the games, we had Finnish spectators shouting in support of the Canes: "Let’s Go Canes." We also had some young teenage Finnish fans waiting at our bus to give us high 5s after game 2. I really hope the Hurricanes will have another travel set of games to start next season. I think they and the Caniacs present great faces for what is best about NHL hockey and the NHL’s players and fans.

Game 1 and Game 2 will not go down in the hockey books as the finest, more artful games ever played in the NHL; but the team got the job down. The experience in Helsinki was remarkable for all the Caniacs fortunate enough to attend the games.

by abramsdoug on Oct 9, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Either the lighting in Hartwell is bad or they were showing a different game on my TV. I thought Corvo, Pits, and Cole were all bad in the Finland series. The rest of your observations were close to mine. I will say the TV didn’t make it seem the Caniacs outnumbered the Wild fans by over half.

Please Mo, take those POS's off Staal's line and put the more skilled POS with Staal!

by PackPride17 on Oct 10, 2010 8:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pitkanen, Corvo, Cole

  All I will say is that I spoke with two different, well-respected non-Hurricanes hockey commentators after the games, and they said they felt Pitkanen was the best player on the ice. Maurice then gave Pitkanen very high marks in his comments before and after the games. Everybody is entitled to his or her own opinions, but I thought you might find that additional information at least mildly interesting.

by abramsdoug on Oct 10, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind the different opinion and I do appreciate the first-hand view. Just watching the game, Pits passes looked off and his defensive position (particularly when teamed with Corvo) was bad. The commentator on Versus was also remarking that Pits seemed rusty.

Please Mo, take those POS's off Staal's line and put the more skilled POS with Staal!

by PackPride17 on Oct 10, 2010 9:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Several times John and Billy(douche) said that Joni needed to be more aggresive when he passes. I noticed too that a lot of his passes where halfass, like he wasn’t sure he wanted to pass or not. Most passes were slow and could be picked off.

Carolina Hurricanes! Your 2011 Stanley Cup Champions!

by canescup on Oct 10, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who were the “commentators”?

by Killswitch on Oct 10, 2010 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Billy Jaffe was the color commentator for John Forslund’s play-by-play call.

Here we are now...entertain us.

by Elsker on Oct 10, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

In case Doug’s not around this afternoon, and you’re talking about the non-Hurricanes commentators in his post…

Juha Hiitelä and Jani Mesikämmen, two very respected members of the Finnish sports press, who we were fortunate enough to meet while we were in Helsinki. We’ve been following them on twitter for much of the summer and they’ve been a great help to us in bringing news and analysis regarding our Finnish players and prospects. They were covering our games for the Finnish media and both spoke very highly of Joni. Of course, they know him from Finnish league and play on behalf of the Finnish national teams, so they know his capabilities.

Phoblographer and Finn Aficionado
SISU

by Jamie Kellner on Oct 10, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never heard of em

by Killswitch on Oct 10, 2010 3:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is Mesikammen the one who writes for NHL.com on occasion?

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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 10, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

With respect to Juha Hitela, he is one of Finland’s best known hockey and sports writers/commentators. He also has been great with providing information to the Caniacs. He is extremely talented, but has not a hint of arrogance. Both he and Mesikammen are fun to follow in Twitter. They also Tweet often in English because they know we are following them.

by abramsdoug on Oct 10, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pitkanen & an Interesting Statistic

In going back to look at the goals against, Pitkanen has not been on the ice for any even strength goals against. In Game #1, he was on the ice for two power play goals: (1) once paired with Corvo and (2) once paired with Harrison. It’s just an interesting statistic to watch as the season progresses but at this point doesn’t reveal much to me because the sample size is so small.

by abramsdoug on Oct 10, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t we only have 1 even strength goal against so far? And if Pits was on the ice for 2 PP goals against, he has been on the ice for half of the 4 total goals against so far this season. That would probably be tied for the worst on the team currently with Harrison.

Please Mo, take those POS's off Staal's line and put the more skilled POS with Staal!

by PackPride17 on Oct 10, 2010 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great Write Up!

You made me feel like I was there. It was awesome to see so many Caniacs on TV from a far-off land. So many people don’t understand what it means to be a Caniac, but I tell them to make the trip to the RBC and then they will know. There’s a contingency down here in Charleston, would love it if the Canes played a preseason game here to grow the fan base.

by Chucktown Caniac on Oct 10, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks Doug

Appreciate the time you took for the input. Interesting insight.

Editing Manager of CanesCountry.com

by Bob Wage on Oct 11, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just sitting down to watch and read the game recaps, OMG that Skinner interview is hilarious!

Phoblographer and Finn Aficionado
SISU

by Jamie Kellner on Oct 9, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I have watched it at least 20 times, makes me smile every time!

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Oct 10, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think these are a repeat. More spectacular photos here.

Phoblographer and Finn Aficionado
SISU

by Jamie Kellner on Oct 10, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

The Canes were back on the ice today. Practice was closed to the public and it wasn’t a full normal practice, mainly more the guys just getting their legs back under them and getting back to the ice conditions here versus Helsinki. Ch.com posted an audio link to Maurice’s post-practice comments here.

Decisions forthcoming regarding Sergei Samsonov and his status to make the trip.

Chip’s pretty bullish on Sk8erboi sticking with the team after chatting with JR today. Here’s his report on Canes Now.

Chip also tweeted that it’s likely Jiri Tlusty will be sent to Charlotte for a conditioning stint, especially likely if Sergei is ready to get back into the lineup.

No practice scheduled for tomorrow, normal practices resumes Tuesday and Wednesday at 11 am at the RBC Center.

Phoblographer and Finn Aficionado
SISU

by Jamie Kellner on Oct 10, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Glad you got these added in. Those Finnish photo links are great to see. I’m going to try to go to practice Tuesday – so perhaps our paths will cross.

Any thoughts on why they closed practice this morning? My first guess was to allow them to decompress after a week of incredible hype, but still unexpected.

Twitter @HMof2

by Carolyn Christians on Oct 10, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I was surprised that they even scheduled practice today, since it would easily take yesterday and today to recover from the time zone differences coupled with travel and back-to-back games. But then I realized they aren’t practicing tomorrow so they can do over the K&C golf tournament so it makes sense they were out there today. I think it was more due to the type of practice that is was, not really a full practice, just a chance to get their legs back under them. May not have translated well to the fans. Just a thought.

I’d like to be there Tuesday as well.

Phoblographer and Finn Aficionado
SISU

by Jamie Kellner on Oct 10, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was more due to the type of practice that is was, not really a full practice, just a chance to get their legs back under them. May not have translated well to the fans. Just a thought.

That seems like a very plausible explanation. I think you nailed it.

They just needed some quiet “me” time. :-)

Here we are now...entertain us.

by Elsker on Oct 10, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That matches what Mo said in the audio they released and LTD posted above.

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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 10, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would Tlusty would have to pass through Waivers to be sent down to Charlotte? I thought he would on a 1-way contract but I can never be sure. Seems like he might look tantalizing to another team as a young, previous 1st Rounder on a 1-year league minimum contract.

I’d hate to see him be the casualty to our forward logjam as I think he as potential (and letting him go would mean wasting our 1st Round pick last year). Although maybe management feels Bowman has filled in nicely as a shutdown winger.

by JussiJuice on Oct 10, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

because of his age he CAN be sent down for reconditioning without going through waivers….they did the same thing with Sutter after coming back from D.Weights hit.

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by canescup on Oct 10, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s very clear in the CBA that a player sent down on a conditioning stint is NOT subject to waivers, regardless of waiver status.

Also, the conditioning stint cannot exceed 14 days.

Here we are now...entertain us.

by Elsker on Oct 10, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh OK. Thanks cc, Elkser, and HM. I didn’t realize that “reconditioning” was a special scenario.

by JussiJuice on Oct 10, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, he’s on a “conditioning loan” to the minor club, to correctly describe what’s going on, remaining on the NHL club roster and earning NHL pay if on a two-way contract (moot in Tlusty’s case, since he has a one-way contract that pays the same regardless).

Player has to agree to the conditioning loan and the Commissioner can investigate if he suspects hanky-panky, like trying to avoid a waiver situation.

Here we are now...entertain us.

by Elsker on Oct 10, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tlusty is on a one way contract, but that is unrelated to whether he is waivers eligible. O’Sullivan is on a 2-way as is Carson, Pogge and they all have to go through waivers.

Twitter @HMof2

by Carolyn Christians on Oct 10, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gabriel Landeskog

One of the top prospects shaking out for next year’s Draft is Gabriel Landeskog, who was line-mate of Skinner last year and showed great Chemistry with him (especially in the Playoffs when Landeskog’s 15 assists contributed heavily to Skinner’s 20 goals). He is Swedish transplant (played in the Swedish Elite League at 16 years old) and already has 10 points and 5 goals in 6 games this year. At 6’1", 205+ lbs… He is a natural Right Winger and also a heavily physical player who has 14 PIM in 6 games. Projections at this point place him being Drafted in the 5-15 range… Although these rankings will surely change.

Kitchener is currently 5-1-0 in the OHL.

by JussiJuice on Oct 10, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t understand why PIM is such an important stat; at least when it is made out to be a positive? I know they are trying to describe how physical a player is, but wouldn’t it better describe the players disipline on the ice in a negative way? I mean Sutter had 2 PIM’s last season and that is great, while Staal has 6 PIM’s so far this season and that is bad.

Please Mo, take those POS's off Staal's line and put the more skilled POS with Staal!

by PackPride17 on Oct 10, 2010 5:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

…while Staal has 6 PIM’s so far this season and that is bad.

It sure isn’t because he’s our tough guy. :-D

Here we are now...entertain us.

by Elsker on Oct 10, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you, in that I’ve always looked a bit askance at someone’s large PIM number.

More like, “that ain’t so good”.

Here we are now...entertain us.

by Elsker on Oct 10, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sutter isn’t very a physical player that being said Sutter knows how to handle his stick so NOT to create a penalty.

Carolina Hurricanes! Your 2011 Stanley Cup Champions!

by canescup on Oct 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

'a very'

plus Sutter also can control his temper….Staal CANNOT.

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by canescup on Oct 10, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

True. Sutter is losing his ability to speak on only coach-speak (Hallelujah!). I think as soon as he said “peed in his pants” about Skinner he regretted it, but went with the flow at the point (so to speak).

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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 10, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one that giggled at the fact that he used the word “peed” instead of a more colorful word? A 5 year old would say “peed”. A 21 year old…not so much.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Oct 11, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

In this case theyre using his PIMs to accentuate his physical play. Probably agressive, roughing type penalties. Ive seen them used to show a player is undisciplined as well. Depends on the type of penalties i guess.

by Killswitch on Oct 10, 2010 6:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sometimes penalty minutes can be from undisciplined play. Sometimes they can be from fighting, standing up for a teammate, or trying to send a message if the other team is cheap-shotting you.

I wasn’t showing his PIM as something that would be beneficial… The point was to say he isn’t a prissy Euro player who is afraid of physicality. He is a big kid who isn’t afraid to mix it up, I see that as being beneficial… Not a detriment.

by JussiJuice on Oct 10, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great collection here HM. Being without computer access for the past few days stressed me out, but I shouldn’t have worried-you’ve got it covered!

I really loved Sutter (who is 21 by the way) calling Skinner a kid. Yeah Brandon because you’re such a geezer. I don’t think I could be happier for Skinner-that was a pretty big stage to make a debut on and he did it beautifully.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Oct 10, 2010 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh and I wouldn’t be me if I didn’t take this chance to point out that Joni’s dog is pulling a Joni by looking in the wrong direction. :D

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Oct 10, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats what I thought of when I saw that pic……………..his dog even looks distracted

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by canescup on Oct 10, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey all – If anyone tuned into the podcast expecting to hear pearls of humor and wisdom from PuckDaddy – turns out Greg’s wife had a charity event that required his presence this evening so he had to postpone till next week. Sorry to disappoint. Personally I was quite relieved.

Twitter @HMof2

by Carolyn Christians on Oct 10, 2010 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d be careful with that one, most PuckDaddy articles on Canes are very negative. I quit reading his/ their blog along time ago. Be careful what you say, they’ll turn you into one of their blog smashing the Canes.

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by canescup on Oct 10, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

all writers at puck daddy are not the same.

I know what you’re saying, but I look at it this way:

Ryan Lambert (a puckdaddy weekly contributor with his “what we learned”) is terrible toward the Canes, and pretty much every market not part of the original 6. Avoid always.

Wyshynski actually says some nice things about the Canes pretty regularly. But his MO is snark and he picks on everyone equally (imho) except his beloved Devils.

Sean Leahy is the #2 writer there and he is even more friendly to the team. He’s the one covering the EStaal vs Zach Parise fantasy hockey league thing.

Jason Bourne is the newest regular writer. He’s not bad either.

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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 10, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Although Bourne seemed somewhat anti-non-original-6 on his personal blog to the point that I stopped reading it for a while (his hockey insights and talk about what it’s really like to play at the pro level are very interesting though). He might tone it down for his larger audience at PuckDaddy though…

by Raccoon Fink on Oct 11, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bourne is an interesting point of view – though I agree he needs to become more aware that more eyes are on him with alternate points of view that are valid and shouldn’t be dismissed. That’s a tough lesson (and not always a sought-after one) for a lot of internet writers.

Twitter @HMof2

by Carolyn Christians on Oct 11, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like HM2 said Wysh and Lambert are like that toward most teams. They dont dislike up too bad though. Look at their 2010 predictions.
Wysh has us 7th in the East
Leahy has us 6th
Even Lambert has us 6th.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Puck-Daddy-s-2010-11-Eastern-Conference-staff-pr?urn=nhl-275264

by TylerA7707 on Oct 11, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Argh I hate that we have to wait until Thursday for the next game!

by hip_check on Oct 11, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Oct 11, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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