Carolina Acquires Ryan Carter From Anaheim for Matt Kennedy and Stefan Chaput
by Bob Wage on Nov 23, 2010 5:04 PM EST
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PrintThe Carolina Hurricanes added a veteran presence to the middle of their ice as they traded for Ryan Carter from the Anaheim Ducks this afternoon. Carter has just 3 points so far this season, (1G 2A), but he's won 50.3% of his faceoffs while averaging about 10 minutes a game for the Ducks. Carter's cap hit is $625,000 and he is a UFA at the end of the season.
Hurricanes GM Jim Rutherford had this quote:
"Ryan is an experienced player that can give us more balance down the middle and strengthen our penalty kill," said Rutherford.
The Canes need improvement on the penalty kill and in the faceoff circle as they are currently 27th and 30th in the league in those categories, respectively.
Carolina sent two prospects back to Anaheim, Matt Kennedy and Stefan Chaput. Both players were currently on the Charlotte Checkers' roster and had minimum production so far this season.
Carter has pretty good size at 6'2 and will beef up the fourth line with Troy Bodie. The trade probably means that Jon Matsumoto's days are numbered in Raleigh.
The Hurricanes' presser is after the jump:
RALEIGH, NC – Jim Rutherford, President and General Manager of the National Hockey League’s Carolina Hurricanes, today announced that the team has acquired center Ryan Carter from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for forwards Stefan Chaput (sha-POOH) and Matt Kennedy.
"Ryan is an experienced player that can give us more balance down the middle and strengthen our penalty kill," said Rutherford.
Carter, 27, has totaled three points (1g, 2a) and 22 penalty minutes in 18 games this season for the Ducks. The White Bear Lake, MN, native is averaging 10:44 per game in ice time and has won 50.3 percent of his face-offs. Originally signed by the Ducks as a free agent on July 12, 2006, Carter (6’2", 200 lbs.) has totaled 12 goals, 17 assists (29 points) and 141 penalty minutes in 138 NHL games, all with Anaheim. He has played in 20 career Stanley Cup playoff games, earning five points (2g, 3a), and was a member of the Ducks’ 2007 Stanley Cup championship team.
Carter played college hockey at Minnesota State-Mankato (WCHA), totaling 34 goals and 24 assists (58 points) in 76 career games. He has played 89 career American Hockey League (AHL) games with Portland, earning 41 points (19g, 22a). Carter’s career statistics are below.
Chaput and Kennedy were each playing with Charlotte (AHL) this season. Chaput had three assists in 20 games played and Kennedy has notched one assist in eight games.
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I guess we’re on the winning end of this trade.. I’ve liked Matsumoto’s game so far though. Sad to see him sent down.
by NorwegianCaniac on Nov 23, 2010 5:09 PM EST reply actions
Matsumoto’s not sent down yet, just my guess. They may keep an extra body here.
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True that, but didn’t JR state the other day that he didn’t want anyone sitting out?
by NorwegianCaniac on Nov 23, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
there is not much need to have anyone sit out wile we are home since guys can get up from charlotte the same day, even on the east coast, guys can get called up quick, so unless we need extra bodies for practice, we don’t need too many extras around, especially since the canes don’t want to pay them at NHL salaries
Matsumoto
Bob,
I had the same reaction. I have to believe the Canes organization saw what we all saw in terms of Skinner getting hammered night after night. Adding some size and hitting to the fourth line is an excellent idea. Tlusty/Carter/Bodie is a fourth line that is big, fast, and physical. The Hurricanes PK has been unacceptable; and both Carter and Bodie provide some PK ability as well. With Carter in, I can’t see Dalpe being used as a fourth line center very often. A Brett Sutter/Carter/Bodie fourth line would be biggest and the meanest fourth line the Canes have assembled.
Waivers
Why didn’t the Canes just pick up Carter on waivers yesterday? We would not have had to give up the away the Kennedy and Chaput …
They might have felt like they had too many forwards in Charlotte.
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I think you have the reason, Bob, moreso than money.
Here’s the current Checkers roster (with Kennedy and Chaput already efficiently removed).
12 forwards, with two in the bush (J. Staal and Masumoto).
Here we are now...entertain us.
Salary most likely. Unlike Bodie, Carter is on a one-way deal (at $625k). Even the relatively tiny salaries of Chaput and Kennedy help offset the salary.
And they are pretty much the definition of fringe prospects. Neither have scored a goal in the AHL this season.
I wonder if they will recall J.Staal. I’d like to go see him now that he is down in Florida. This atleast opens up a roster spot (though I don’t know if he deserves it or not)
When I think about it, the Kostopolous trade makes a little less sense right now..
by NorwegianCaniac on Nov 23, 2010 5:12 PM EST reply actions
...really?
Because they picked up somebody (well, two players) who are younger, cheaper, and will contribute just as much?
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by MichaelProcton on Nov 24, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think they either one can be mediocre in 8-12 minutes of ice time a night.
That’s what TK gave us, nothing more.
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by MichaelProcton on Nov 26, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
News release
GM Jim Rutherford announced today that the Carolina Hurricanes will be the first team in NHL history to build a team entirely of 4th liners that have the potential to be in the top 9.
:-D
Here we are now...entertain us.
Two things that make me wonder:
1) Have we ever had this much player movement early in the season? JR’s mantra has always been wait and see. At least he is trying to solidify the team. I cannot ask him to do much more. Kudos JR.
2) How many times is JR going to commit robbery and not get caught?
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Has JR gotten the best out of every single trade? No. No GM has. But, he has come out on the better end of deals then the worse end. There have been a few in the past that made me scratch my head, but most of the time, it turned out pretty well. In JR I trust.
In response to question 1: When have the Canes ever done as little in the off-season as they did this year? I can’t remember JR doing so little in an off-season.
I think what we’re seeing is that JR likes the team he has and is trying to improve it where he can with taking on little salary. I’ve got to give the guy credit, with adding very little money and with giving up very little in return he’s been able to tweak the defense, add some grit, and maybe even address the faceoff issues. That’s a pretty significant feat given the limited budget.
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+1
The only glaring weakness that really hasn’t been addressed IMO is that there is no scoring winger here for Staal. That is something we have neglected for years now, and it takes a little money to lure a guy here who can play with Staal.
Here I was thinking we could pull off another trade with calgary for Iginla… silly me huh?
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If this team is in the playoffs at the deadline (say #6 spot or better) I think they will pick up a winger for Staal. LaRose will go to the third line and Dwyer or Matsumoto or someone will go to Charlotte/out. If they’re not in that position they’ll probably make a minor tweak or hold tight. Playoff revenue is great, and I can’t fault PK for going after it, but I’d really like to see the Canes stay on course on the rebuild and not gamble a whole lot on this season unless these trades really spark something and the Canes look like they’ve got a legitimate shot to do damage in the post season.
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Good points. I hope we get someone with skill on par with Staal, we do not have anyone with that on this team now.
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Skinner will be that, and Boychuk is making a lot of noise down in Charlotte. It will take some time, but I think both are going to be good players who can play with Staal. I think Boychuk in particular, who plays the game very similar to Ray Whitney, will be great with Staal next season. I’m still of the mindset that I want the Canes to do as little as possible as far as sending out prospects or picks go. A couple of defensemen and sending out some excess forwards for drafts picks is about all this team needs to have a really solid footing going forward. I’d love to win every year, but I don’t want to try and win this year at the cost of the future.
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I’m still not completely bought in on Boychuk yet. I definitely believe he will be a solid NHL player in the near future, I’m just not sure he will be top line material. I think he will probably be a tweener, a guy that fits somewhere between 2nd & 3rd line in the NHL. But that does sound about right; the Canes overslotting someone is right up their alley.
If Staal can play like he did in LA on a nightly basis, he will be the 100 point player we all expect him to be!
But that does sound about right; the Canes overslotting someone is right up their alley.
Love that line.
The reason I like Boychuk with Staal is that Boychuk is a passer and plays good defense. Is he a traditional first liner? I would say no. But I would say the same thing about Ray Whitney. Staal has a unique skill set for a franchise center so that means he needs wingers with unique skill sets.
I think a line of Staal, Boychuk, and Cole/bigger body winger would work very well. This could then be complimented by a second line with Skinner, a third line centered by Sutter that can be used to go up against other teams top lines, and a fourth line with Dwyer, Ryan and Bodie (Bodie and Ryan can be replaced with guys with similar skill sets). That’s the long term vision I would implement if I were running the Canes.
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I agree with you 100% regarding your 4th line. I love the Dwyer plays, but I think he needs to be slotted on the 4th line and moved up if needed because of injury. Slotting him in a 3rd line role IMO is a mistake. Yes he can play there on occasion, but he is what he is.
I personally would love to see:
Dalpe-Staal-(playmaking winger)
Dalpe was some size and is a scorer IMO. Putting those 2 with a playmaker should result in goals.
Skinner-Sutter-Ruutu
I think as Skinner gets more comfortable, his defensive game will become more solid. This could be our shutdown line that can also apply offensive pressure.
Boychuk-Jokinen-Bowman
This would be a defensively responsible line, but also an up & coming line. Boychuk & Bowman has scoring “potential” and are not afraid to throw their bodies around. Jussi is the stabilizing force on this line; he can dish the puck, score, and lead these kids.
Dwyer-Carter-Tlusty/Bodie
This would be what should be a reliable 4th line. It was some speed, some size, and some grit. Also, under certain game situations; Dwyer and/or Tlusty could move up the lines if needed.
If Staal can play like he did in LA on a nightly basis, he will be the 100 point player we all expect him to be!
by PackPride17 on Nov 24, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Not much to tweak with there. I’d put Boychuk in that first line spot (shocker!) probably loot to laRose to fill the spot opened up on the third line, then swap Sutter and Jokinen, or maybe slot Nash in there.
I do like the idea of Dalpe with Staal. In my mind I kind of pictured him on the second with Skinner.
Don't trust me. I have psychological issues.
I originally thought Dalpe would be a good 2nd line winger in a Ruutu-Sutter-Dalpe “shutdown” line. I had Skinner with Staal, which still may happen. But for some reason in my head, it seems better off for the Canes to seperate those two and play match-up issues.
If Staal can play like he did in LA on a nightly basis, he will be the 100 point player we all expect him to be!
Agree with all of these points.
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by MichaelProcton on Nov 24, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Carter by the numbers
2007-2008: 34 GP, 4-4-8, minus 2, 61.5% FO
2008-2009: 48 GP, 3-6-9, plus 3, 48.0% FO
2009-2010: 38 GP, 4-5-9, even, 52.5% FO
2010-2011: 18 GP, 1-2-3, minus 4, 50.3% FO
Here we are now...entertain us.
JR is building an actual fourth line … I can’t complain with that. Tlusty should be at least a third liner down the road, and someone like Samson could take the last fourth line spot.
Tlusty “should” be a 3rd liner down the road, but he hasn’t proven he belongs there yet IMO. A 3rd liner not only has to be tough, but also has to be able to score some.
I do like Samson on the 4th line.
If Staal can play like he did in LA on a nightly basis, he will be the 100 point player we all expect him to be!
I agree … I think it’s easy to forget that Tlusty’s coming off knee surgery. He’s probably lacking that burst still — and maybe some confidence.
by Cory Lavalette on Nov 24, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Lines In Trades' Aftermath
Cory,
Your comments led me to wonder what your post trade lines would look like if you were GM. In particular, where would you slot Samsonov and LaRose? It seems as if Rutherford has concluded with some tweaks the 2010-2011 Canes might just make the playoffs. What do you think?
As they are now is OK, I guess … Carter and Bodie on the fourth with Tlusty. I’d like to see Jokinen on the top line, but I think him and Samsonov together lacks physicality, and I don’t think LaRose is enough of a finisher to play with Staal. But the two No. 2 lines seem pretty jelled — I dnno that I’d want to mess with them.
by Cory Lavalette on Nov 24, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
sammy and jussi can work on the 1st with staal
they were on the ice together with brindy when we tied it up in game 7 vs NJ
we just need to have the right Defencemen when they are on the ice
Like now, I worry about the physical burden on Staal when he ha to be the muscle on his line. No doubt he can handle it, but that wears on a player and that’s when injuries seep in.
by Cory Lavalette on Nov 24, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
First Line Issues
Cory,
I thought tonight’s game against the Capitals exposed the flaws with trying Samsonov/Staal/LaRose against a top tier team and particularly a physical, top tier team like Washington. I thought bringing Cole up the first line helped. I hope the coaches alter the first line to be Jokinen/Staal/Cole. What I really hope is that Boychuk and Dalpe will be called up and given a chance to play on the first line with Staal/Cole. With Bodie and Carter on the fourth line, I think there is adequate deterrence to keep teams from taking liberties with Skinner. I agree completely with your observation below that it puts too much of a physical burden on Staal to be the muscle for his line when Samsonov and LaRose are on the first line with him.
So McBain and Peters are the only River Rats on the big boy roster as of right now. Not sure what exactly that says.
It says the team is better able to compete than JR thought and has a legitimate shot at making the playoffs.
Don't trust me. I have psychological issues.
One hopes we don't end up giving up a future asset chasing a six-game loss in the first round.
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by MichaelProcton on Nov 24, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
+1 JR
Time will tell if these recent moves will work out, but on paper they seem to be pretty decent calls. Look how much tougher team got in the last week. POS is on to hopefully a better situation for himself and the Canes, and the team brought in two players with some nice size.
I like the urgency of JR’s response to what he has seen in the early season.
What I don’t like is that this may send Matsumoto back down. I thought he’s held his own with 4th line minutes. In my little fantasy world I would sit Tlusty a game, and let Matsumoto center a 3rd line, just to see how he does.
Staal/Jokinen/Ruutu
Sutter/Cole/Skinner
Matsumoto/LaRose/Samsonov
Carter/Bodie/Dwyer
Forget about all that lines staying the same talk from this morning, this trade changes the dynamic of the team a bit.
Good things
I am not sure Ryan Carter brings a lot to the table, other than a potential for better FOs. What this has done is guarantee none of our prospects will have to rot in 4th line roles in Raleigh, but can play big minutes in CLT. Much better for players like Dalpe, Bowman, Boychuk to come up next year (or later this year) to replace Samsonov, Cole, etc.
50 contract limit
Another wrinkle we don’t usually contend with in these parts, but this morning the Canes had 46 NHL contracts with the League maximum at 50. Today we dropped 3 and picked up one. If O’Sullivan hadn’t gone, and we had not traded the 2 AHLers, Canes would have been at 47, if JR’s claimed Carter on waivers Monday rather than making the trade.
That’s cutting it pretty close, and doesn’t help the crowded situation in Charlotte.
Here’s the “unofficial” salary chart from last Friday.
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by Carolyn Christians on Nov 23, 2010 9:06 PM EST reply actions
So all in all, we lost;
Kostopoulos, O’Sullivan, & Babchuk
And replaced them with;
Carter, Bodie, & White
It appears we have got more defensive and tougher. The only real question is the character we lost in TK. Somewhat of lateral moves by JR, but I think good moves.
If Staal can play like he did in LA on a nightly basis, he will be the 100 point player we all expect him to be!
by PackPride17 on Nov 23, 2010 10:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The last thing I’m worried about with this team is character.
The very last thing.
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by Jamie Kellner on Nov 23, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
That character aspect is exactly why Kostopoulos was originally selected to join a group of veterans that JR thought had a serious shot at making some noise when they got into the playoffs. He fit into the locker room easily and was the kind of guy you win Cups with.
Unfortunately, things turned out differently, PK dropped the hammer on the budget, and as with all role players, the time comes for the org to go cheaper and younger.
It’s the cycle of life, and part of being a long time fan.
They come, they go, we see ’em everywhere afterward.
Got to admit…it keeps things fresh.
Here we are now...entertain us.
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