Trade Speculations - Corvo
With two trade deadlines right around the corner, I thought I would give you my take on what teams might be interested in our players and what I feel we should be looking for in return. The Canes players listed are the players that I feel have a shot of being traded. The teams interested in them are teams that I feel could use their services. The players, prospects, and draft picks are what I think we could get in return for said player. This obviously does not mean that these are the only options out there, this is just my opinion.
I am breaking the FanPost down by players, because one would be just too large. Part Three includes an always coveted right-handed offensive defenseman in Joe Corvo. Other players will follow over the next couple of days. Please let me know what you think or what trade returns you would like to see.
Joe Corvo – Chicago, New Jersey, Phoenix, New York Islanders
Chicago – Chicago has all the pieces for a deep Cup run, but they need to move some salary for next year and they are not thrilled with their bottom pair defenseman. One item they could use is a big, right-hand shot on their PP. Corvo would be able to fill that need, play 2nd or 3rd pairing, and give them cap relief after the season ends. He could also eat some big minutes for them; allowing their top pairing to get some rest for the playoffs (Keith & Seabrook play a lot of minutes and they are also going to the Olympics).
The players that interest me are LW-Kyle Beach, LW-Billy Sweat, RW-Jack Skille, RW-Dustin Byfuglien, and D-Cam Barker. Chicago must get rid of some salary, so I think it’s unlikely that we get their 1st round pick and prospects. They would probably prefer to send Barker out in any deal, but Byfuglien could also be an option.
New Jersey – The one thing that New Jersey is actually missing is a good offensive defenseman. In the playoffs, the PP will be crucial and imagine a top PP unit of Parise-Zajac-Elias with Kovalchuk-Corvo on the points. This would make all types of sense to me and be comparable to Washington’s great PP unit. Corvo could also play in a top 4 role as his defensive side has improved while in Carolina.
The players that interest me are C-Jacob Josefson, D-Matt Corrente, D-Brandon Burlon, D-Tyler Eckford, and C-Adam Henrique. The Devils have a little cap room left and if Scott Niedermayer isn’t their target, Corvo should be the next in line.
Phoenix – It appears that Phoenix is going to make the playoffs. They could use a lot to help them, but because of their impending sale; acquisitions are tough. Corvo could be relied upon to help shore up some of their defense as well as provide a right-handed shot for their PP.
The players that interest me are F-Peter Mueller, D-Oliver Ekman-Larsson, D-Keith Yandle, and D-Nick Ross. Phoenix has the problem that they can only trade dollar for dollar right now. This limits what they are able to do and limits what type of return the Canes could hope for.
New York Islanders – New York is hoping they still have a shot at the playoffs. If their PP doesn’t turn the corner, that is going to be almost impossible. Mark Streit has not been as effective on the PP this year and Corvo could help that unit. He could also play some big minutes for an either old or inexperienced defense.
The players that interest me are F-Josh Bailey, D-Calvin D Haan, C-Trevor Smith, and RW-Kirill Petrov. It’s really confusing as to if New York will make a move or not. Their only 5 points out of 8th, but they could realize that maybe next year is their better chance. If they offer their 1st round pick for Corvo, JR should jump up and down and take it.
Here are the trades that I would like to see happen, in order of which one I would most like to see.
Trade D-Joe Corvo to Chicago for a RW-Dustin Byfuglien.
We would get a beast forward that would fit perfectly on a checking line and also be able to screen the goalie or work the point on the PP. From what I have read he is also a character guy. They would get a defenseman that can eat some minutes, give them a big shot on the PP, and most importantly; has an expiring contract.
Trade D-Joe Corvo to Chicago for D-Cam Barker.
We would get a young defenseman with potential. He should be able to fit on a 2nd pairing and maybe develop even more with more playing time. They would be able to rid themselves of his remaining contract and get a defenseman that could actually help them out in their quest for the Stanley Cup.
Trade D-Joe Corvo to New Jersey for C-Jacob Josefson and D-Brandon Burlon.
We would get a skilled center prospect that is close to ready for the NHL and a defensive prospect that could develop into a good offensive defenseman. They would get a PP defenseman and someone that could fill in on any defensive pair.
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Corvo for Barker is very viable..Barker is barely playing 15 minutes a night with Chi and should be expendable. I expect the Devils and Bruins should also be on him
by Bad Boy Bhagan on Feb 7, 2010 6:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m happy you approve!
I’m actually nervous about Barker. He hasn’t proved himself in Chicago and has actually had his minutes cut as the year’s gone along. I think he could develop further, but he makes me nervous with 2 more years at $3M each.
Are you saying Boston and New Jersey are going to be in on Barker? There might be an outside chance that Boston is, but no way New Jersey is. Boston wouldn’t want that contract and New Jersey has much cheaper options once everybody is healthy.
by PackPride17 on Feb 7, 2010 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He probably meant Boston and NJ would be in on Corvo. I’d love Barker for Corvo… They would probably want a low prospect or pick also but I could see it happening. Same with and possibly more likely is Barker for Cullen + something low. I’d take Byfuglien also though.
by JussiJuice on Feb 7, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With Bolland close to coming back and Chicago being loaded at forward in the top 9, I think the Cullen to Chicago ship has sailed. Anything is possible, I just think we missed our window on that trade.
by PackPride17 on Feb 8, 2010 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That’s my take on it, too. Saw somewhere a week ago that he was close to returning and thought the same.
by Elsker on Feb 8, 2010 7:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My Bad
I meant Boston and NJ would be interested in Corvo.
I was nervous about Pitkanen and he’s turned out ok . ( Even though he avoids the oppositions net like the plague)
But we need another young D to go with McBain next year. ( Carson is 6th D at best, too weak and very slow in moving the puck when he receives a pass)
by Bad Boy Bhagan on Feb 7, 2010 9:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely there! I think our biggest need is a top 4 D-Man (young). I also think we need to improve our overall defensive depth and would love to acquire some D prospects.
I think Carson has improved a lot since first being called up. At first I thought he was a 7th defenseman, but I now think he’s a solid 3rd pairing guy.
P.S. I would still love to figure out a way to get Marc Staal or Braydon Coburn. (And Jenna, I would love to see the expression on your face if the Canes had Eric, Marc, and Jordan.) :)
by PackPride17 on Feb 7, 2010 11:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Coburn is the guy that I really covet. He has been shuffled down the lineup with the addition of Pronger this year.
Coburn could become a top 2 pairing guy for us for a long time. IMO that would give us three legitimate top 2 pairing defensemen. McBain could be the fourth.
"He has all the virtues I dislike, and none of the vices I admire." -Sir Winston Churchill
by Swenksta on Feb 8, 2010 8:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coburn is an impressive prospect
I think Coburn has tremendous potential. I would approach things perhaps a little differently than PackPride17 in that if I were GM of the Hurricanes, I would hold tight to draft picks and I would focus on creating the best group of young forwards the Hurricanes have ever accumulated via the draft. I would then use the UFA market to bring in the defensemen that were needed - with the exception being if I could not draft either Hall or Seguin and if Cam Fowler were available, I would draft Cam Fowler. Coburn is a player I would try to get if I could trade a veteran and a mid-level draft pick. Nobody would be able to pry my first round and second round draft picks from me; and all my picks would likely be forwards -- the bigger, faster, and meaner, the better — other than Hall or Seguin. My goal this year would be to have other teams look at the Hurricanes group of forwards and feel over all, they were the best group of young forward prospects in he NHL. The past 25 games or so the defense has not been run out of the rink; and in fact has played well.
by abramsdoug on Feb 8, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t get me wrong; I like having some draft picks, but ready prospects and young NHLers could/would be very useful. Take a look at one of my comments on the Cullen FanPost. It shows that less than half of the players selected 10-20 in 2004, 2005, and 2006 have even played more than a handful of games in the NHL. I know there still young, but it you would think a 1st round draft pick would have played more. From the quick research I did, it shows that anything outside of the top 10 is a “crap shoot.” The further down you draft, the lower percentage of a player turning into an average NHLer.
Basically, I’m not saying get rid of your draft picks and yes we should acquire some. But, don’t relie on them (especially knowing our draft history). We need to acquire some players that have already proven at the NHL or AHL level that they can compete with the big boys; take Tlusty as an example. We don’t have to grow every one of our future players.
by PackPride17 on Feb 8, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I found your chart on recent draft picks very insightful and helpful. I also agree that really only first round picks 1 through 10 have a high degree of certainty about the skill level of the players. Tlusty is a great example of a young player who fits the Hurricanes system very, very well; and I am very pleased the Hurricanes obtained him. Coburn is another young NHL player who could definitely help the Hurricanes. Peter Mueller is another young prospect who is being under-utilized. Your list also shows that Cullen is perhaps under-appreciated for his role with the Hurricanes.
by abramsdoug on Feb 8, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly think we can get a first rounder for Corvo. Not because of his talent really, but because he is really the only puck moving D man on the market this year (still fuzzy on that detail). That increases the price of his services immensly. Look at what we got for Nicky. If a team is desperate enough, we can get almost anything for a guy. Corvo should go for nothing less than a first rounder. If I am JR, I do not back down from that. Some team will pony that up to help both their offense and defense.
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by Ivan459 on Feb 8, 2010 10:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
…….second and a prospect and I would take a hard damn look.
by wylde4canes on Feb 8, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jr prefers Prospects over Picks
I’m only saying that because he’s retooling the Canes, not rebuilding. The Tlusty trade is evident of that. I tell my buddies who are Leafs fans that Pardais will not see NHL ice for at least 3 to 4 years. We cannot wait that long.
The issue is other teams realize that too, prospects are more important in the Salary Cap world where you need cheap players to fill out the roster.
If we get the 2nd rd pick and prospect for Whitney from the Kings, and a 2nd rd pick for Cullen from Minny..I would prefer a Barker or comparable young player back for Corvo. We need to add major young talent in the next 2 years to get back where we bleong..on top!
by Bad Boy Bhagan on Feb 8, 2010 5:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
NJ
New Jersey should get Paul Martin back before the playoffs, so their need for Corvo might not be too great.
by prplmnkydw on Feb 9, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Martin would help out there defense, but he’s not really an offensive guy. Greene is their closest thing to a PP quarterback and I just think that Corvo would be an upgrade over Greene. Again, I think Niedermayer is NJ first choice, but Corvo would probably be a nice second option for them.
by PackPride17 on Feb 9, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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