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Last Chance For a Showcase: Hurricanes at Maple Leafs, Game Day Preview

Have an aging star that has been injured most of the season, but would like to trade him for an asset before the trade deadline?  Put him on a line with Gold Medal Champion Eric Staal and see what happens. 

That might be the strategy for the Carolina Hurricanes, (24-30-7) as they take on the Toronto Maple Leafs, (19-31-11) tonight at the ACC. Chip Alexander "Tweeted" that Scott Walker was skating on the same line as Staal and Chad LaRose at today's morning skate.

Although Paul Maurice said after the practice not to read too much into the lines.  "We need to wait until the game to see who will be in the lineup", the coach said.  Sounds like anything could happen before game time.

Before the Olympic break, the Canes had won five games in a row and seven of their last nine and the number one line of Ray Whitney, Jussi Jokinen, and Staal was extremely successful.  Jokinen has a career best nine game scoring streak going and Whitney has points in five straight. 

So is it time to mess with the mojo? 

The team has to shake up the lines somewhat though as several injured players should make their return to the ice tonight.  Scott Walker will be joined by LaRose and Erik Cole as Carolina's walking wounded finally return to action.  Cole has missed 31 consecutive games because of a mysterious "upper body injury", the details of which have been one of the best kept secrets in the NHL.

Cam Ward is now the only Hurricane who remains injured.

Star-divide

The lines at the morning skate were as follows:

Staal, Walker, LaRose

Sutter, Ruutu, Kostopoulos

Jokinen, Samsonov, Cole

Brind'Amour, Whitney, Dwyer

Could this be a message to Ray Whitney?  "If you choose not to rescind your "no trade clause", these will be your linemates the rest of the season?"

Or perhaps the Canes have decided to make a valid push for one of the top draft picks this summer?

There is no telling where Stephane Yelle is in the picture since Chip did not mention him.  In that scenario, he will be scratched.

The team has seven defensemen on the trip as well and if Aaron Ward or one of the other blueliners is not traded before the puck drops, one of them will need to sit out.  (Unless they go with seven defensemen, but with 13 healthy forwards, that is doubtful).  

Alexandre Picard might make his Carolina debut tonight. 

One thing we do know for sure, Justin Peters will be in net.  The team is probably going with the youngster because he has been actively playing during the Olympics while in Albany.  Peters has been nothing short of sensational so far for the Canes.


GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2009 - Justin Peters 2 119 2 0 3 1.51 60 57 .950 0


He will be matched up against Jean-Sebastien Giguere.


GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2009 - Jean-Sebastien Giguere 24 1347 6 10 65 2.90 699 634 .907 3


The Maple Leafs have a couple of players they are trying to move as well.  Lee Stempniak and Alexei Ponikarovsky are reportedly available.  Also, this will be the first time Caniacs get to see Dion Phaneuf wearing a Leafs sweater, while playing against Carolina. 

Expect the unexpected as anything could happen this afternoon.  One player or more could be traded before the puck drops.  Or perhaps everyone will wait until tomorrow to consummate their transactions. 

((UPDATE:  Andy Sutton was just traded by the Islanders to Ottawa.  Apparently, the rumors sending Aaron Ward up there were grossly exaggerated).

We will be watching here at Canes Country. 

This game will be televised locally by FS Carolinas starting at 7 p.m.  We will have the open thread ready to go at 6:30. 

Note:  Canes Country will have an open thread running from 10 a.m. until the close of business tomorrow.  We will not only be discussing Carolina's trades, but others around the league as well.  I will be taking some vacation time and will post updates as quickly as I can.  It should be an interesting time.

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Trade deadline is here again!

Love the flurry of activity over these two days.

by Iggy Reilly on Mar 2, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

What is up with those lines???

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Mar 2, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Looks to me like Staal is 4th line center…

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Mar 2, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t that where the captain is on this team?

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by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought after the past two years we were trying to break that habit…

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Mar 2, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

One would hope. Irony is I was trying to be sarcastic/sardonic…

The truth was more painful if he does go on the 4th line.

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by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, he played for the wrong team

he should be punished!

If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?

by lcd2you on Mar 2, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

+2

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Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors

We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately

by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Off topic but I just created a FanPost about it, Canes are going to display the Olympic hardware at Thursday’s game.

Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
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by Jamie Kellner on Mar 2, 2010 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

Take some pics for me!!

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Mar 2, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

As people posted on the other post those lines at todays practice were ‘pick your best friend and skate with him’ lines. I am guessing the lines will be:

whitney, staal, jokinen
samsonov, sutter, ruutu
kostopoulos, dwyer, cole
walker, brind’amour, larose

If Cole doesn’t play then Walker takes his place and Yelle moves to the fourth line.

Have you seen my playoff tickets?

by hotchipsnsalsa on Mar 2, 2010 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

Let’s hope so, the lines above are atrocious…

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Mar 2, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

"pick your best friend line"

If Maurice really allowed that to happen…..

let’s just say, this isn’t a rec league.

Why not have “pick your best friend line” for the game tonight as well?

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by Bob Wage on Mar 2, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice article boss!

Staal and Binky skating hand in hand?

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Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors

We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately

by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, Maurice really did allow it to happen...

I exaggerated it with my own words above, but here is his quote earlier as written by the beat reporter at the N&O:

“Well, we let them form their own lines for the morning skate,” Maurice said, smiling. “We’ve got a little more defined lines, but we need to wait to the game before we’re fully sure who’s in the lineup.”

Everyone know this isn’t a rec league, but sometimes you have to mix things up whether it’s a professional team or not. If we do see those lines tonight that they ran in practice then someone definitely needs to tell the coaches that this isn’t a rec league.

Have you seen my playoff tickets?

by hotchipsnsalsa on Mar 2, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like they have no clue who’s even going to suit up tonight, so what’s the point of practice??

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Mar 2, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

hotchips

I didn’t mean to make it sound like I was picking on you, I realize it was a quote from Maurice, but I hope he was joking.

My response was an attempt at humor, but it sounded harsh when I read it again. sorry about that.

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by Bob Wage on Mar 2, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

  You were 100% correct in your prediction.

by abramsdoug on Mar 2, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting afternoon/evening ahead...

Might be an eventful day folks – rumors are that Pittsburgh didn’t want to give up enough of what the Canes were wanting in exchange for Whitney…

And yeah, the lines are STRANGE. Can’t think of what the message there is, if in fact they remain the same for tonight.

Also – interesting to see how this team looks tonight with all of the new fellas returning

by WPTF Phil on Mar 2, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

“new fellas”

LOL!!! +2

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Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors

We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately

by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You know with Cole and Walker playing as little as they have I think I’ve forgotten who they even are. Larose – now that name sounds a little more familiar to me. How many man-games have we lost so far this year?

by WPTF Phil on Mar 2, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

248

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by Bob Wage on Mar 2, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Unreal — is that good for close to the bottom of the league?

by WPTF Phil on Mar 2, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that's a whole NHL season

(jk but it’s way too much)

If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?

by lcd2you on Mar 2, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I got it! Walker and LaRose are just coming off injuries (aka: vacation time in Mo’s mind) so he’s got to get them both 25+ minutes to help complete their recoveries!!

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Mar 2, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, you really do understand the mind of Mo

Electro-shock therapy starts soon for you…..

If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?

by lcd2you on Mar 2, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Tweet from Nick Kypreos:

“Ray Emery is looking for a surgeon that can save his career. His hip injury is being compared to the one that ended Bo Jackson’s career.”

Are they going to insert more talent?

by Iggy Reilly on Mar 2, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

Tweets about how Whitney likely won’t get dealt now without LA in the mix.

by Iggy Reilly on Mar 2, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, here’s McKenzie’s tweet:

Carolina’s Ray Whitney may not get dealt at deadline unless the L.A. King scenario gets revived. It’s his call but Pittsburgh appears out.

by Cory Lavalette on Mar 2, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. Now won’t that just be fantastic…

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by Ivan459 on Mar 2, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Where’s C-Leaguer now? I said Ray probably wouldn’t go anywhere.

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Whitney’s going. With Pittsburgh out of the mix that removes the team that Whitney wanted to go to from the equation. Now he’ll likely go, not want an extension, and hope to sign in Pitt or Carolina in the off-season.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

O.K. I’m gonna hold you to this one, all we can do is wait and see.

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The only way Whitney doesn’t get moved is if he invokes the NTC and decides he’s just going to ride it out in Carolina. If he does that me and my baseball bat have an appointment with his knee.

P.S. Does anyone have Ray’s address? I, um, accidentally got a package of his. Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool! That Staal, Whitney, Jokinen line was and now is taking us straight to the playoffs.

Have you seen my playoff tickets?

by hotchipsnsalsa on Mar 2, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Statisticly speaking we are virtually out of the playoff race. If I remeber correctly we would need to win all but three games from here out.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

16-5. Doubtful, but mathmatically we are still in it. I am a firm believer you play for now instead of trying to steer the future onto your wishful path. From my experience trying to control the future never works out the way we want it to.

Have you seen my playoff tickets?

by hotchipsnsalsa on Mar 2, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Then you look at the standings and realize five of the top eight teams in the league right now absolutely tanked for years and years to become good. While it’s nice to be those teams now, I’d rather work on a quick rebuild than a long one.

by Cory Lavalette on Mar 2, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

For some reason I feel like Whitney would part after the season anyway (I guess his extention demands make me feel less confident about his re-signing).

If he stays: We will probably sign him for too much money for too long a term and I’m sure he will get another NMC.

If he goes: We get a first round pick and maybe a prospect. It would be a 1st towards the back end, but with the extra second we might even trade up to the middle of the pack.

Trading Whitney IMHO quickens the rebuild not slowing it. If it was ment to be, he would resign at a decent wage for a decent time without that dreaded clause. If not, atleast we have a prospect or two.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

What about Boston?

Also wonder if the comments on the Penguins or the Kings as remote or dead, are just posturing. This is pretty high-stakes poker.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Canes would prolly have to take Ryder and his bad contract back. If you’re JR, would you do Ryder and the second overall for Whitney?

by Cory Lavalette on Mar 2, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s Wysh’s observation via tweet:

Would someone really pay a No. 1 pick and a roster player for Ray Whitney?

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

the answer is yes, The kings already offered that before Whitney vetoed it. Teubert was a former number one pick.

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by Bob Wage on Mar 2, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

And I’m afraid I don’t really know much about Ryders’ contract… so I can’t comment. :shrugs:

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I know enough to say YES, if you mean Toronto’s 1st round pick. Not Boston’s second.

by Iggy Reilly on Mar 2, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

$4M more next year.

Prolly actually not enough to pry that TOR pick from them.

by Cory Lavalette on Mar 2, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, like I said, his contract isn’t too outrageous.

If you have a chance to likely have two picks in the top 5, you jump on it, IMO.

by Iggy Reilly on Mar 2, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I don’t think I do.

Re: hockeymomof2’s question below, Ryder has one more year left on his contract (‘10-’11) at $4M/yr before he’s UFA.

Has 15 goals and 25 points in 60 games this year so far and is a right wing.

We’ve tons of right wings and don’t need another. No, I don’t think I buy that second overall pick for $4M and a roster spot now blocking development of my youth.

by Elsker on Mar 2, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno that it would block any youth. I don’t think Bowman will be ready to start next year. Same for Dalpe.

by Cory Lavalette on Mar 2, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Ruutu, Jokinen, Cole, and LaRose all under contract as right wings for next year, before we even begin to look at youth, so at least one of those has to go to make room for another.

And Bowman is listed as a left wing, by the way.

by Elsker on Mar 2, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t thinking of just the right side … just a spot in the lineup in general. Ruutu, LaRose and Jokinen can play pretty much anywhere up front.

by Cory Lavalette on Mar 2, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sorry but you just don’t normally get the opportunity to draft two guys in the top 5.

I think it is a no brainer.

by Iggy Reilly on Mar 2, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I cannot imagine Chiarelli parting with that Toronto 1st rounder. There would be an uprising across Boston bigger than that Republican taking Ted Kennedy’s seat.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed. Wishful thinking.

by Iggy Reilly on Mar 2, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Chiarelli has said he’s not going to part with that pick. What a GM says and what they do are often two different things, but it would take a heck of a deal to pry that pick out of Boston. That pick, and the extra next year, allows Boston to re-build without being terrible.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Granted I also don’t think we will actually get that TOR pick out of Boston.

by Iggy Reilly on Mar 2, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed … don’t think they could get it. But not totally unreasonable to consider.

by Cory Lavalette on Mar 2, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I CAN’T WAIT TIL THIS IS ALL OVER!!!!

trading that is…

by jej on Mar 2, 2010 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

+5

Amen Brother (sister)

If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?

by lcd2you on Mar 2, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't know

hence the equivocation

If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?

by lcd2you on Mar 2, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

No, this is the best time of the year!

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I have the strange feeling that this trade deadline is going to suck for us….

Oh well. GO CANES!!!!!

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by Ivan459 on Mar 2, 2010 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

When you're a seller

that generally means your team is most likely not going to avoid a good tee time.

If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?

by lcd2you on Mar 2, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Re: Whitney

Greg Wyshynski 1 minute ago

“Would someone really pay a No. 1 pick and a roster player for Ray Whitney?”

Ummmm, yes please?

by Iggy Reilly on Mar 2, 2010 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

Emery out for season – I guess Michael Leighton is thinking Philadelphia was his destiny?

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

i don’t know about anybody else, but i never really liked Leighton (or Philadelphia), so i wasn’t all that sad to see him go there. i actually liked it

by silent_shadow36 on Mar 2, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Leighton was very popular because of the person he is. I can’t speak highly enough of him in that regard.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yea, he wasn’t an “awful person”, he just didn’t play all that well here in Carolina. that’s why i wasn’t very sad to see him go. he was a good person, a not-so-good goalie.

by silent_shadow36 on Mar 2, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Leighton played poorly. I think he never got the chance to play.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Granted the argument could be made that “not getting a chance” is the flip side of “not impressive enough to force coaches to let him play”. But I’ve always leaned towards the idea that the coaching staff felt it was just easier to ride Cam until he dropped and just ignore that other guy sitting at the end of the bench.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

When Mo is the Coach I definitely go with the ride Cam mentality as the problem.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Mo just doesn’t like to take risks. he thinks “Cam is safe, why risk the loss”

by silent_shadow36 on Mar 2, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you covered it pretty well there.

Eric Staal...Team Canada first line

by drifterscape on Mar 2, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta love Mo’s philosophy! Now we’ve got a career lingering injury for our 25 yr old franchise goalie and a bunch of unknown backups! It’s not that important of a position anyway…

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Mar 2, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Some of it may be Cam too. Cam models himself after Brodeur. Brodeur plays every day. So Cam wants to play every day. Mo takes the easy way out, and says ‘fine, play every day too’.

Eric Staal...Team Canada first line

by drifterscape on Mar 2, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I definitely remember when Lavi left and Mo arrived, Forslund said something about how Cam takes it personally when he doesn’t play. Eats at him as criticism – or makes him stress during games wondering if the back-up will come in. Remember how in Oct 08 Leighton was looking hot and Cam, not so much.

But that was before the Franchise Contract in Sept. However, I think Cam has a lot more to do with it than Mo. (And Barrasso and Rutherford – both goalies – too)

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. And just to add to that, we don’t really know that Cam’s injury is due to overuse, do we?

Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu

by Jamie Kellner on Mar 2, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

No we don’t know for sure (and I’m willing to bet we never will).

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

If that’s the case, then someone needs to make it clear to Cam that him not playing 82+ games a season isn’t a criticism. It’s an investment in his future. Does he really want to be Brodeur-esque and play all season long and exit early in the playoffs? Probably not.

And if players are calling the shots, you (meaning coaches and management) have some serious problems.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Bingo.

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Mar 2, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps. But leaves us with two options: A) Mo is insane and rides goalies too hard or B) Mo is a big sissy and lets his players tell him what they’re going to do.

I’m not really happy with either option…

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Mar 2, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Who needs goalies anyway when you have a rock solid defense high octaine offense top notch coaching staff oh never mind.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I'd love this

@TSNBobMcKenzie — Have not heard that but Boyes is available as per Blues fax. $4M cap hit stiff for underperformer. RT @persianchiko: Mtl after Boyes?

Boyes, tho pricey, would be nice on Staal’s right wing.

by Cory Lavalette on Mar 2, 2010 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

wyshynski :
It’s the best fit for Whitney, and a hell of a linemate for Sid. RT @jakespotter Pens are out but imagine Wiz on Sid’s line

Wouldn’t it be strange that the greatest hockey player in the universe would be centering our Hurricanes’ Staal and Whitney within a week?

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve been saying Whitney would look great on Sid’s line for months now. I still think this is why Whitney signs there in the off-season. I also think now that Pitt is out of the picture to acquire him he doesn’t block the deal to LA or anywhere else. He’ll want to play in the playoffs, prove himself to the Pitt front office, and then take Bill Guerrin’s spot. in the lineup.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Man if we could just get you to D.C. to take care of Health Care Reform and balance the budget! I’m glad someone on this blog knows what’s going on! All day and nothing! Think of all the time I’ve wasted today waiting for something to happen. I probably need to count at least 4 hours vacation.

by Mullett on Mar 2, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It won’t pick up until tonight or tomorrow. It’s why I’m taking tomorrow off of work.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I think it’s gonna be last minute insanity!

I LOVE THE NHL!!!!!!

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Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors

We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately

by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s gonna be great tomorrow. The Canes already have 4 picks in the first two rounds. Any guess on the number they end up with by the deadline tomorrow? I’m saying two firsts and 4 seconds (Whitney bringing in a first and Corvo a second). Walker and Ward may bring in a third and a fourth, but they may also be packaged with Whitney or Corvo.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Good call. The other possibility is Ray shits on the whole thing..

I think he isn’t that guy, though. So 2 firsts and several seconds is what I think, too.

I wonder about any player pick ups/throw ins, that’s got my attention!

A

Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors

We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately

by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear ya….I’ll need Friday off if you know what I mean! Too many 12 ounce curls!

by Mullett on Mar 2, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

If you’re taking Friday off you should come on up to Norfolk and watch the Rats play the Admirals.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

We haven’t totally ruled it out! However can you imagine me and my buddy after 2 1/2 hours on the road! I’m not sure we would get there!

by Mullett on Mar 2, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That can happen.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I think there is a lot of “tweeter posturing” going on about Whitney. Nothing is dead with anyone until 3 tomorrow.

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by Bob Wage on Mar 2, 2010 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

Amen!

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by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly. Surely we haven’t all forgotten that the Wallin to the Sharks is not gonna happen.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

right on, that was a “dead deal” at one time.

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by Bob Wage on Mar 2, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I think ‘dead’ means re-negotiating.?

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the idea of the Whitney/Corvo package deal. My Pens fan buddy was going on and on about a D-man who can score…

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Mar 2, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m with you. I don’t believe for a skinny minute that any deal is dead.

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Sisu

by Jamie Kellner on Mar 2, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Whitney stays or goes?

C-Leaguer what do you think? I say he stays as the asking price is perceived to be to high. What are your thoughts?

by Mullett on Mar 2, 2010 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

He goes, because whatever the price is for him it’s better than nothing, so it’s in the teams advantage to trade Whitney. As for Ray himself he ups his value by going to a playoff contender, so moving is in his advantage, so he’ll waive the NTC. No one wins if Ray stays put. Not even Hurricanes fans. This team won’t make the playoffs. So we’ll have to pay Ray and get nothing for his services to others.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would have imagined we would be talking about “tweeter posturing” a couple of years ago? It’s amazing how things change!

by Mullett on Mar 2, 2010 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

I’m late to the party, but I echo others’ sentiments about the oddness of the lines. The conspiracy nut in me thinks there’s more going on here than meets the eye. Also, if watching JR’s pimp hand has taught me one thing it’s that nothing is really ever dead, and certainly not 22+ hours before the deadline

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Better late than never, GF!

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by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

JR’s Pimp Hand

shakes knees in fear

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Random - Canes on Dish?

Just got Dish Network – any other Dish people in Raleigh know which channel tonight’s game is on, and is usually on? Customer Support woman asks me “I’m sorry…the Carolina who?”

Not the most reliable source on that question.

by WPTF Phil on Mar 2, 2010 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

tonight it’s on channel 444, and it’s usually around the channel 440-453 range

by silent_shadow36 on Mar 2, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Does Dish not have FoxSports South?

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

not really, just a bunch of sports alternate channels. at least that’s all I’ve ever seen the canes on

by silent_shadow36 on Mar 2, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey thanks! Pretty strange how hard to find it is. No FSN Car on Dish, just FSN South (Atlanta feed?)

by WPTF Phil on Mar 2, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah Atlanta’s feed is FSN South. I am lucky enough to always get their games.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I sure don’t miss gearing up for a Hurricanes game in Charleston and right at 7pm seeing the intro to an Arkansas women’s basketball game. So ridiculous they don’t have full Hurricanes TV coverage down there

by WPTF Phil on Mar 2, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Preaching to the choir on this one. My favorite is women’s college bowling.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that was about the time when I called up Comcast, got no answer. Then a response from FSN South in Atlanta of “it’s a Comcast decision.” Thanks guys.

by WPTF Phil on Mar 2, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah yes the classic finger pointing. Of course my cable company hangs up on me when I call so I almost never get the finger pointing.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks the game is available in HD, any idea what channel the HD feed would be on? If any?

by WPTF Phil on Mar 2, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone else feel like this image is akin Toto tugging open the Wizard's curtain in Oz?

From here:
Eric Staal and his gold medal sit down with John Forslund for... on Twitpic
Eric Staal and his gold medal sit down with John Forslund for tonight’s FOX Sports Carolinas broadcast

Also wondering if Timmy has a contingent of grumpy supporters in Canes PR.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Where is the Tim Gleason medal photos? Or the Tim Gleason medal interview with Forslund? I understand Eric is the captain and won gold, but Gleason represented the US which is who 95% of the Hurricanes’ fanbase was cheering for. Just like unveiling Staal’s banner last prior to the break, I think this is a mistake.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m hoping that’s coming next. At least Chip got something out today (and for the Finns too).

I think in Toronto, Eric has the only Gold Medal for men’s hockey in town. That is HUGE HUGE HUGE for media interest. Hence everyone is obsessing a little bit. But if I hear him say, “I’m only 25 and I’ve completed the Triple Gold” one more time I’m gonna be sick.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I just got a new idea for my signature line ;>0

Eric Staal...Team Canada first line

by drifterscape on Mar 2, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh-oh.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh oh is right..

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by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I can understand this for the outside media, but the team’s media is covering it ad nauseum. I’m trying to be patient, but it’s getting more and more difficult.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s why I’m thinking some Gleason Gremlin in Canes PR tweeted that ridiculous photo of Staal in his underarmour and white crew socks. Not exactly Gold Medal stud-ly.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Y’all are starting to crack me up.

Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu

by Jamie Kellner on Mar 2, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

5 % Canadiens….ummmm

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t count as Canadian. And 95% was a guesstimate.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t saying I was Candien

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Canadien….see I can’t even spell it.

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel your pain…

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Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors

We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately

by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL fine. Were you saying the number was too high? I can only read so much into “5% Canadiens…ummmm”.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

just thought it was funny….sort of like saying that 5% of the Canes fans are Canadien or for that matter live in Canada.

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually threw that caveat in for you and your sudden and new-found love of all things north of the border.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

You sure waffled on who you were rooting for Sunday, canescup.

And why you’re standing guard for your native land, royal montie, it’s Canadian when you’re referring to the nationality. Canadiens are the team from Montreal (French spelling I’ve always assumed)

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I was pulling for US, I just knew beating Canada the first time the US couldn’t do it twice.

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you HM!!! I thought it was an, but with my spelling impediment….
I opted to shut up.

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Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors

We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately

by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I still think its all the same

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

When it comes to spelling I agree and I try not to throw too many stones.

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Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors

We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately

by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t spell worth a lick, never have never will….how did I make it in college? spellcheck

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Canadien…Canadian… ?

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Habs one and all?

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Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors

We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately

by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the 5% she was referring to were the Finns. Just sayin.

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Sisu

by Jamie Kellner on Mar 2, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Alcohol content of beer maybe?

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Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors

We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately

by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Well clearly there were some Finn fanatics in there as well. :)

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was the alcohol content of beer aswell.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

So lgc_com listening to Johhny F and AWard and Yelle are healthy scratches. Wonder what they’ll chat about up in the rafters? (Bruins’ playoff season 2009?)

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 6:05 PM EST reply actions  

Dang it HM. That’s what I get for spell checking “halleluiah”.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry sistah

Here’s the moment I can imagine them kicking around. The Good Times they’ve shared:

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Now why in the world didn’t JR take a look at that photo before making personnel decisions in the off season?

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

What didn’t get tweeted… he also said that Staaly showed up at the hotel yesterday with two bodyguards… LMAO!

Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu

by Jamie Kellner on Mar 2, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

What? Why?

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

CG – you’re kidding right? You really don’t understand how important Sunday’s game was in Canada, and Toronto? And this little tidbit doesn’t endear me to Mr Staal. Sorry.

Can you imagine Tim with a bodyguard?

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand it was important but not why it was deemed necessary to provide him 2 bodyguards.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

one to protect the gold medal and one to protect him? :-)

those crazy Canucks are liable to do anything.

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by Bob Wage on Mar 2, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That doesn’t make much sense Bob. He needs two guys to protect just him so who’s going to protect the medal?

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Because Timmy might try to take it away. Eric doesn’t share well.

Eric Staal...Team Canada first line

by drifterscape on Mar 2, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Timmy wouldn’t do that. He’s an honorable dude.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Timmy is the most badass man on the planet, he was Chuck Norris’ bodyguard in a different liffe.

Timmy would never have a bodyguard.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

lgc_com From @johhnyf on his usual game day appearance on #99.9TheFan; AWard & Yelle are tonite’s healthy scratches.

Is it wrong that in my mind a mini choir is singing a rousing rendition of “Halleluiah”? Yeah probably.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 6:05 PM EST reply actions  

You didn’t sing in the children’s choir apparently? ;)

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Mar 2, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I will neither confirm nor deny that I assaulted many a church goer with my less than perfect voice.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I did a solo in front of my church once and only once

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No, not wrong. Encouraged!

by WPTF Phil on Mar 2, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Phew. :D

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

So maybe Yelle and Ward in a combo deal to………..who cares as long as Ward is shipped out

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

I kinda like Yelle.

"This guy is as meat and potatoes as there is of a man."
Gleason for Emperor!

by caniacgirl on Mar 2, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

he has been playing well since way back when (put on waivers).

It's time to draw the line.....USA go get it!!!!

by canescup on Mar 2, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I like Yelle. Hell of a shot blocker and seems to be a decent late-line guy

by WPTF Phil on Mar 2, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know that this necessarily points to a trade, at least for Yelle. Yelle is likely a victim of the roster containing 13 forwards at the moment. Ward being healthy scratched, though, I would say points to a trade. If a deal wasn’t in place or at least close he’d be out there being showcased.

Greensboro was a black hole.

by C-Leaguer on Mar 2, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I concur. Be interesting if he gets interviewed, or evben seen for that matter. He may be packing and looking for a passport.

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by Paladin6 on Mar 2, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

C-Leaguer, I think you’re right.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Playoffs

Enough of the negativity! Too many people who think we can’t make the playoffs. Actually it is doable. 21 gms (30-33 pts out of 42) could possibly be enough. If there isn’t to many
3 pt games!!

by randycane on Mar 2, 2010 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

dude I wouldn’t bet 20 bucks to win 100 that we are going to make the play-offs. Too many teams to jump ahead. Plus I don’t want us to even get close to making the playoffs. We have the chance to acquire an almost surefire superstar for nothing.

We have a good team now, we could have a great team if we have another superstar in Staals class.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. ’Canes have not lost since February 3. Another month without losing and we can climb to 8th place.

Eric Staal...Team Canada first line

by drifterscape on Mar 2, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s a little bit mis-leading obviously.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously. Sorry, I’ll declare a sarcam alert next time.

Eric Staal...Team Canada first line

by drifterscape on Mar 2, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I kinda figured that. Hence the brief reply.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Whew. no problem.

Eric Staal...Team Canada first line

by drifterscape on Mar 2, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

D pairings

I don’t know if this has already been said but chip is saying they will look like this.
Joni/Joe
Timmy/Piccard
Carson/Alberts

Interesting.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

I’m rooting for a Whitney getting a hat trick and maybe an assist for good measure.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

I didn’t see anything,lol. I like it though.

by CarolinaCanes on Mar 2, 2010 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

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