Rough Night at the RBC: Sabres 5, Hurricanes 3
by Bob Wage on Mar 21, 2010 8:19 PM EDT
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The Buffalo Sabres jumped out to a 4-0 lead before the home team could get much going as Ryan Miller and the Sabres topped the Carolina Hurricanes at the RBC on Sunday evening, 5-3.
After a tight first period which ended 1-0, the Sabres notched three goals in a row in the second to make the score 4-0 before the period was half way over. Jochen Hecht did most of the damage as he scored on a wrap around and a breakaway.
Paul Maurice pulled goalie Justin Peters after the fourth goal and put in Manny Legace, who was less than 100% after leaving the game early the previous night with an injury.
The Canes scored just 12 seconds later, making the score 4-1 as Sergei Samsonov tipped in a Brett Carson shot, but the damage was already done.
The Sabres added another goal, making it 5-1 before the end of a brutal period for the Canes.
The home team could have rolled over in the third period. They were down 5-1 and had just played the day before, but to their credit they continued to battle back, just like they have all year long.
Brandon Sutter would score early in the third as Ryan Miller misplayed a puck and Eric Staal would score a late powerplay goal as the Canes tried to make things interesting, but a comeback was not meant to be.
Jamie McBain picked up an assist on Staal's goal, extending his point streak to four games.
Carolina will take a day off the ice on Monday and will travel to Tampa Bay for their next game on Tuesday night.
Game Notes:
- Zach Boychuk told the media after the game that the team was told between periods to shoot more. They were trying too hard to make the perfect play and passed a bit too much.
- Paul Maurice told Justin Peters not to let this game bother him. Part of being a good NHL goalie is having the ability to shake off a bad game, and this is one Peters would probably like to forget.
- Brian Pothier led the Canes with five blocked shots. The team had a total of 10.
- Eric Staal had a team high seven shots on goal.
- Carolina was credited with 35 hits on the game led by Brind'Amour, Cole, and Ruutu who had four each.
I took some video of Zach Boychuk and Brandon Sutter interviews after the game.
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disappointing.
I was there for the first 2 periods. I just left after the 2nd period. I was very disappointed. :(
Thank you Jim Rutherford and Ray Whitney for working together for Ray to stay a Hurricane! :)
So an interesting game or what? I wasn’t impressed with the Staal line a whole bunch, not Cole or Rod for sure. I question Mo’s sanity, as the lines are seem to come from some voodoo fugue.
That said, man the kids are kicking. This includes Staal. Apparently instead of laying on the ice flayling like a fish out of water looking for a penalty he’s gonna get into somebody’s grill and maybe even say a bad word or two. Staal get’s a bonus point. Boychuck is developing into what I figured he would be. A roaming assassin. I think he’s gonne be Stillman on steroids. Sutter again, on paper and makes his shifts count. I think he is the most complete player on the team. Next is McBain. Cory has championed this kid and man what a call. He may be Kryptonite to all that oppose. Carson, Rosie. All good effort and some good results.
Let’s vacate a couple more spots and I’d like to see Tlusty and Samson in the mix. The third period held some good hockey (if’n your a Canes fan) and some world class goal tending. Don’t mistake this loss as anything other than a killer elite goaltender doing his job.
Which brings up goaltending. We had to finish out a game with a wounded hobbit that was filling in for what? The 4th in line goalie? I mean holy crap, we got some potential, but what’s with Cam? Did Peters just have a bad game? What’s up with the hobbit? Pretty key position to have so much doubt.
Anyway, Go Rats!
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In the good old days if you commited adutery you were stoned, nowadays it's the other way around.
Wimmin can attract men with thier minds, seems a lot easier to do it with what they don't mind, though.
The right to bare arms is key. Though I'd pay to see more.
Goaltending?
Well, I think that Cam has a bulging or ruptured disc issue. This is about the only thing that fits the vague descriptions being put out by the team. The problem is that such an injury is degenerative. And surgery is 50-50 under the best of circumstances. It’ll be interesting to see if he can last at this level if that’s the issue. His career may be done pretty soon. Hopefully not, but it doesn’t look good if he’s got disc/rupture issues.
Peckers has potential, but he is young and inconsistent. Tonight, he was just plain awful. Mainly, his positioning and reaction were both a shade off. He gave up a couple of goals he should not have given up. But what can you really expect at this point? Not many goaltenders can come straight from the AHL and play well enough to win the Conn Smythe. The odds of having 2 on one team are pretty slim. He seems to be developing, so good on him.
Legace played pretty decent, but it was already too late. I wish Mo would’ve pulled Peckers after the 3rd goal, but hindsight is 20/20. Legace earned some cool points for coming in hurt/sore and playing like he did.
by East of Here on Mar 21, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Amen brother. Cams issue is the 800# gorilla. Sure wish they paid me to give a damn. Make it more enjoyable.
“hind sight is 20/20” is that ain’t the truth, I don’t know what is.
BTW email me me havenofvirginia@gmail.com had an add on to what we were talking about the other day.
In the good old days if you commited adutery you were stoned, nowadays it's the other way around.
Wimmin can attract men with thier minds, seems a lot easier to do it with what they don't mind, though.
The right to bare arms is key. Though I'd pay to see more.
Will do.
But it may be tomorrow, as I am off to bed. I’m pretty tired right now and have a long day tomorrow. It got ugly in the parking lot with the Slug fans after the game. Once again, they showed what their fanbase is really made of. Classless as usual. Ah well, my expectations were not high…
by East of Here on Mar 21, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s understandable with what the goalies have done in th past couple of games (pretty disappointed). Some weird injury with Legace I think threw of the rotations the bench had planned. These hiccups happen but I’m impressed with the tag team system. And it worked! 7 game winning streak thanks to Legace and Peters. I know Cam wants to jump right in ASAP, but the team is best served by him taking his sweet time and making sure he’ll be 100% before he returns. Peters and Legace have carried this team well and I say let them keep Ward out. The seasons shot. Lets take care of what needs to be taken care of. Get Cam healthy for later in this/nest season. Keep rotating the young’un up so they can get NHL level experience and learn the Hurricane system. We’ve done pretty well against Washington, the Pens, and the Blackhawks so we have a decent rep. We are not going to be doing much with the rest of this season so we need to start looking into the future. Go Kiddy-Canes, you’re breaking in at a good time!
Every game today that could’ve helped the Canes move closer to that 8th spot went the other way. Even the Canes couldn’t pull it off today, so much for the playoffs……….again. This team sure knows how to have really highs and really
lows. I’m getting excited about next year already, can’t we just skip the summer and start next season?
I guess there's always next season.
We are gonna need this summer like we need oxygen. Got alot of pieces, but need some and some time.
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In the good old days if you commited adutery you were stoned, nowadays it's the other way around.
Wimmin can attract men with thier minds, seems a lot easier to do it with what they don't mind, though.
The right to bare arms is key. Though I'd pay to see more.
sigh...Both
The Rats & The Canes lost…funny thing is both squads have simuliar playing styles…and both teams started out slow…both teams missed several chances to win but sadly didn’t…but as it was said earlier…hindsight is 20/20…On tv Joni did a good ist. intermission interview he also talked up McBain and his skills.i was and had hoped that the Canes would have gotten their legs sooner, but as much as i hate to say it…Buffalo was the better team tonight…good night all and rest well…
Relax !! Even Micro Wave Popcorn takes time !! Go Canes !!
If this was a "normal" year,
you know the types, the ones without a 14 game losing streak, I would have chalked the past 2 weeks as awesome.
Unfortunately, when one digs a hole as deep as the Canes did, you can’t use lasting caps when you reach rock bottom.
Still, yeah I know, it ain’t over yet (though prognosis is grim) but if the past 2.5 months is what we can look forward to next season, that will be great.
I guess the only thing really left to is wonder who’s gone, who’s staying and who’ll be the “new guy”.
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
deep Hole ?
Personally that deep hole could have been shortened…meaning that 14 game in a row loss could have been Half that IF and again I say IF the coaches behind the bench banded together and did more than lip service…Now i know if i was th head coach what i’d had done but CBA would have prevented me from doing much of what i know could and would “motivate” players…but that’s just me…i still love and support the canes all i can…but that still doesn’t help stem the disappointment at the slow starts on a regluar basis …as in 8 out of 10 games the canes come out like arthritic grand parents…How sad…but i’m just a fan…what do i know ?
Relax !! Even Micro Wave Popcorn takes time !! Go Canes !!
Jussi seems lost without Staal.
Of all the questionable things Staff has done with the lines this year, separating those two, for this long, is near the top.
Eric Staal...Team Canada first line
+1
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by hockeymomof2 on Mar 22, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Lines
Agreed, with all the mixing and matching PM does it seems our top 3 lines look a little lost, not just Jussi. Cole was another guy who looked to never get it going. Some credit should go to Buffalo, they did a good job yesterday of keeping the Canes to the outside and eliminating time & space. Myers and Lydmin were especially good. At 20 years old Myers is better than most NHL d men, I’m glad he’s not in the SE Division.
There is nothing mre frustrating at this point in the season than Mo messing with the lines. Especially between periods. It really seems like he is trying to win just enough games please fans and keep enough seats filled, but at the same time ensuring that we get a decent draft pick.
by HinesCatchUp23 on Mar 22, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree the “Mo Line Shuffle” is extremely frustrating. If the Canes don’t score in a period, Mo thinks he needs to something, so he shuffles the damn lines. It’s the freaking NHL, you’re not going to score all the time.
I think Jussi compliments Staal and Whitney well. They obviously draw the majority of attention and Jussi does a great job finding open space and “cleaning up the garbage.” On the other hand, I think when Ruutu plays with Staal; he defers to Staal to often. He just doesn’t seem to play his game with Staal, while he does with Sutter.
I really think that Cole and Samsonov cause a lot of the line shuffling. They are both good players, but I don’t think they mesh with the direction the team is going. Mo seems to feel like he must play them because of their salary. I’m sorry if these two are anybodies favorite players, but I feel the team would be better off without them.
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t subscribe to the belief that the coaching staff is just messing with the lines for the sake of messing with them or for the sake of doing something different. And I agree with PackPride’s observation that Ruuty is better with Sutter than Staal, and perhaps it is deference, that’s a good thought.
My personal opinion is that it has to be related to the undisclosed mystery “injuries” that keep getting referenced. There is just no logical reason to separate Staal and Jussi otherwise. We all suspect something that Staal is nursing some type of injury, and remember Jussi missed at least one practice last week. So maybe he’s off a little as well, and so you swap Ruuty and Jussi so Staal gets better physical support and someone who can back him up on faceoffs.
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
I am of the same thoughts. Staal was moving pretty gingerly at times yesterday.
And I don’t think Jussi is ever “lost”. He can make plays happen no matter the situation. His vision for the game is unbelievable!
"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."
LTD,
Nice use of the word, “deference.” I don’t believe I have ever seen that word used in a sentence before. You get a Gold Star from me (or maybe a Triple Gold Star).
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Glad it wasn’t “defenestration,” then. ;)
by Raccoon Fink on Mar 22, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, lets just win 10 in a row, then we are probably in the playoffs..simple.
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Southeast/Hurricanes.html
by PittsburghCaniac on Mar 22, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
Look at the difference just two points make. Going 10-0-0 gives the Canes a 93.1% chance to make it. Going 9-0-1, missing out on just one point, and the chance to make it drops to 71.2%. The various combinations of getting 18 points only gives the team a 50/50 shot.
I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.
Third period
I would like to thank the team for entertaining those of us (besides the Buffalo fans) that hung around to the end of the game.
That push in the third had all the Sabre fans nervous, and if they could have made it 5-4 there in the last few minutes…well.
Certainly was an entertaining period, in what was not much fun up until that point. I appreciate the effort, guys.
I was at a game 3 years ago(I think) with some people from work. The canes were down 3 to 0 at the begining of the 3rd period. They all wanted to leave but i wanted to stay. They convinced me to leave. The Canes came back and won 5 to 4 and I was mad. I vowed to never leave early again and have not! If I have learned one thing with this team is that its not over till the final horn sounds!
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting"..........holy cow.......what a ride!"
From the Canes Media Guide comes this short summary of the game which I believe you are recalling:
JANUARY 11, 2007 (at CAROLINA ) — Trailing 3-0 after two periods, Chad LaRose broke up Alex Auld’s shutout bid 1:40 into the third frame. Subsequently, Erik Cole (3:06), Scott Walker (8:02), Cory Stillman (9:35) and Craig Adams (10:02) combined for four more goals in the 9:22 following LaRose’s tally to give Carolina a 5-3 lead.
Olli Jokinen made the game 5-4 with 56 seconds remaining in regulation, but former Panthers winger Ray Whitney iced the 6-4 win for Carolina with just 13 seconds to play.
Sounds like it….thanks for the recap……I’m still mad about missing it…….
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting"..........holy cow.......what a ride!"
3rd period flurries
are a good & exciting thing for any team or fan base, but and again just think if the same energy and intensity were expended during the first 2 periods…maybe just maybe the canes can or could do what the Caps do…it’s not that we,don’t have the talent or ability to do such a thing…can or could it be injuries ? i really like many of you know for sure…but all i do knopw is that for 90% of all games it seems that even after a 2 day break, the canes traditionally or out of habit start out slower than my dead grandmother…again. NOT trtying to be a wet blanket and ruin or take away team spirit, but lets be honest…the proof is in the stats…enjoy what sonshine you can and for those still at work…be safe going or heading home…Go Canes !!
Relax !! Even Micro Wave Popcorn takes time !! Go Canes !!
I think it is interesting how they are playing McBain since Gleason has been out. It seems like they have been literally basing their first power-plat unit around getting McBain the puck and he has been stepping up to the plate wonderfully. I think it’s clear that someone told the guys that McBain has a great offensive eye because even Staal is passing right to him seemingly every chance he gets.
Personally I think McBain has made some great decisions and I would not be at all surprised if I heard he was already expected to be on the team next year. In last nights game I could see a lot of parallels between how Buffalo plays around Myers and us around McBain. If the past 4 games have been any indication, then they would certainly be putting up similar impressive numbers given a full season.
I think you are right. I think McBain would have play his way out of a spot next year. Carson as well. Dude has just been playing great hockey. Makes the Corvo trade feel alot better. Pothier has come down to earth with his play, and imo is not in the roster plans for next year. I see us going out and looking for a nasty stay at home bruiser in free agency. If so, Picard is really looking at either being trade bait or the #7 guy looking at press box duty. I See our reargaurd like this next year.
Gleason McBain Pitkanen Carson Rodney and Free Agent, in what pairings I will not guess. Though truthfully I could see them keeping Rodeny down and dressing Picard instead.
FA- Rodney
Pick
It’s looking like we’ll end up somewhere between 3-7 in the draft (4-5 quite likely). At that point, the 2 best forwards are gone and the best players on the board are mostly dmen, so if we do draft a dman (Gormley/Fowler) we could be fielding an increadibly young dcore, which is scary.
Pitkanen-McBain
Gleason-Carson
Rodney-Draft Pick
It’s not out of the realm of possibility to keep a core like that together for the next 5 years at a modest cost.
BRING BACK THE CHUK
Babchuk over Rodney is a much better alternative IMO. Although Rodney has been decent for us this year, he’s a career AHLer or a NHL 7th D at best whereas Babs’ potential is much higher…
I’m a little worried about keeping McNugget and Pits together. They are high risk players and that could turn into some prime scoring chances for the opposing team. I would still love for JR to figure out some way of getting Hickey or Teubert from LA. Maybe in exchange for a couple of 2nds and our useless 7th. Here are the D pairings I was thinking about next season.
Gleason – McBain
Pitkanen – ?
Picard – Carson
Rodney
I really like Carson’s recent play, but I’m still not convinced he’s more than a 3rd pairing guy. I like Rodney as the 7th defenseman because it gives us a decent puck-mover, should some injury occur. The blank spot could be filled by a draft pick, but defenseman USUALLY don’t go from Juniors to the NHL right away.
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McNugget! lol…hilarious. I almost spit my drink out reading that.
Can someone please get Manny a new shirt? He DESERVES one.
USUALLY right
Zach Bogosian, Luke Schenn, and Drew Doughty did it and even if you have to wait a year look at how well Del Zotto & Myers are playing. Teubert would be nice.
Doughty played immediately and was effective, he is unworldly. Bogosian played early, got hurt, came back and played well and has somewhat struggled this year. Schenn played well his 1st year, struggled for the most part of this season. Myers is a beast and Del Zotto is a good player, but they gave him an extra year to develop.
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I think McBain and Joni have the potential to be a great pairing. I don’t see McBain as a high-risk guy at all. Just b/c he’s offensive doesn’t mean he’s reckless. IMO, he’s very smart about when he decides to get involved.
by Cory Lavalette on Mar 22, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Both players want to jump into the offensive and they should! I just think pairing McBain and Gleason would better serve the Canes. It would allow McBain a little more freedom (a la Mike Green). I’m not trying to put the cart before the horse, but McBain could be an exceptional offensive defenseman (at least what we have seen from him so far).
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I agree. Pair up your Offensive D (Pitkanen and McBain) with Defensive D (Gleason and Carson) to cover their tracks a bit better. We just don’t have the manpower at the moment to do that. My Ideal D for next year:
1) Gleason – McBain: I think this is a legit 1st pairing once McBain gets some more experience.
2) Pitkanen – UFA/Draft Pick : Depending on who we get in draft… If we pick up a forward in the draft then Michalek/Seidenberg could possibly be a top-4 in our price range. If we draft Fowler, Gormley, Forbert, or Gudbranson then they can take this spot and Pitkanen can mentor them as he does all of our new D.
3) Babchuk – Carson : Bring back Babs! I’d rather have him than Picard any day and this sounds like a solid 3rd pairing.
7th: Rodney. Let Picard walk or trade his RFA rights.
Blueline Caps Game
He tried to keep the puck in with his skate with J Chimera a foot away, ended up costing us a break away – that was reckless, but it’s too early to tell, he seems pretty solid defensively.
He was a plus 0 for last nights slaughterfest, very good for a rookie in his 4th NHL game- i am very impressed with McBain.
hI, I am new here. Long time reader, decided to join after a while. I have been following hockey for about a year now, and am absolutely enthralled with it. My favorite player is hands down Jussi jokinen, with Brandon Sutter a close second.
by SouthernHockeyNutter on Mar 22, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I told Jussi at the Casino Night that I’m leading the charge for the Jussi Fan Club and that he deserves a lot more recognition for his efforts!
"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."
your the best!!
If I get down to Harris Teeter to meet him, I’ll tell him that too. He works so hard and deserves more recognition.
by silent_shadow36 on Mar 22, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah! Which HT and when? I keep missing the dates and location.
And I already have bandwagon driver responsibilities elsewhere, but I’ll gladly ride shotgun with the Jussi fans!
Oh and welcome!
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
Wednesday at the HT off St. Albans Drive in North Raleigh I think, someone might want to check that.
by silent_shadow36 on Mar 22, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I would join the Jussi Fan Club, but my 1st priority is always the Staal Lovers Club!
“O Captain, My Captain!”
That’s for you Paladin.
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 9:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would gladly hop on the Jussi bandwagon as well, but being the driver of another bandwagon takes up almost all of my fan time. :D
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
Not the same bandwagon though….
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
Cam, Timmy, Brandon, Ruu, and E.Staal. Yup we’ve got a fleet alright.
Plus you could add in the ever growing McCutie bandwagon as well.
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
Welcome SouthernHockeyNutter! You’ve come to the right place for the hockey obsessed.
"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."
OH that’s right….
SHN, for posterity’s sake, are you male or female? Not that it matters, we just need to know if we should invite you to the Girls Night Out.
"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."
Jamie "Two-Way" McBain
I also would take exception to characterizing McBain as a “high risk” player.
He’s currently +11 for the Albany River Rats, second on the team only to Nick Dodge’s +14.
I believe that Jamie McBain is that rare combination of offensive talent and defensive responsibility.
…best Morpheus voice…he is the McOne.
What stood out most for me is that McBain only had 10 Penalty Minutes in 68 games with the Rats. If you are a defender with a +11 rating and only TEN PIM… That screams discipline and solid defensive play.
Pitkanen and McBain
I agree with Cory. I think it would be a huge advantage to have two very athletically gifted and fast defensemen playing together on the same line. It makes it very difficult for the opposing team to contain them and each has the speed to cover for the other. If I were Maurice/Francis/Rowe I would definitely try to keep them together.
There is still a lot to see of this kid in the NHL before any true assessment can be made. What I am basing my opinion on is what I have seen from him so far and how I would organize a team. Pits and McNugget would be an offensive nightmare. I’m one that just likes to see balance on the backend. That is why I would like an offensive and defensive guy paired together. While the stats have not proven me right, the Pits/McNugget pairing has given up a good amount of 2 on 1 breakaways and if not for some good goalie stops, their +/- might look worse.
Check out the tapes of the past couple of games and you might see what I’m referring to.
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 5:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That last part comes across snotty. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean it to come out that way. I was just referring to watching the past games to maybe see what I am. We all view these games differently, I just wanted to see if you guys could see my perspective.
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 6:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I understood your point; and I will go back and look at some of the past games from that perspective. I am always disappointed in myself when I review the games on video because I realize just how much I have missed watching the game live.
Hey Pack, reckless? What about Rod playing at all? Rod on the PP? That’s reckless and stupid. Letting the kid get his sea legs is another thing. McBain is one of the most raw talent enriched guys on the team hands down. He’s like Sutter, the complete package.
Reckless would be expecting Staal to all of a sudden develope a 2 way game. Staal is not a complete player, he’s a point/goal machine. When you have somebady that can pass and shoot like Pits and now getting a look at McBain, I think they may become one of the best tandems in hockey. Time will tell, but the kid has a lot on the ball for his age. He’s unphased with the situation. I would rather see him pinch and cough up a breakaway and let Cam earn his check than have ineptitude cause a breakaway. Anyday of the week. Scoring D men give up chances, period. Nature of the Beast. Creating a tandem like Lidstrom/Rafalski is whole ’nuther thing.
I guess I just don’t see your perspective. I’m flat our stoked about this kid. I also think he and Pits are the pair.
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In the good old days if you commited adutery you were stoned, nowadays it's the other way around.
Wimmin can attract men with thier minds, seems a lot easier to do it with what they don't mind, though.
The right to bare arms is key. Though I'd pay to see more.
BTW, that ain’t a Staal slam. His job is to make points. My point was there were almost no 2 way guys until Sutter exploded on the scene. Now with that threat i think a pinch now and again is well worth any risk.
Hey, we almost gotta have a better year next year, right?
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In the good old days if you commited adutery you were stoned, nowadays it's the other way around.
Wimmin can attract men with thier minds, seems a lot easier to do it with what they don't mind, though.
The right to bare arms is key. Though I'd pay to see more.
at least you didn’t ‘mean’ to slam Staal…….you know I hear he’s injuried AGAIN.
I guess there's always next season.
Wasn’t a slam. Ain’t his job to back check, he needs to make points and they are got in the other end (where he’s laying on the ice looking for a call….now THAT was a slam!! jk)
Injured again. Man, I hope they just sit him out and let him heal up this time. Kinda like learn from the past, ya know? I really believe this season is over and risking further injury to Stall is reckless (Hey Pack, like the way I worked them in?)
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In the good old days if you commited adutery you were stoned, nowadays it's the other way around.
Wimmin can attract men with thier minds, seems a lot easier to do it with what they don't mind, though.
The right to bare arms is key. Though I'd pay to see more.
Hey Neighborhood Troll, I didn’t use the word reckless – that was someone else. I said high risk and they are not the same thing. I also admitted that Pits/McNugget would be a huge offensive threat, but I like balance on the backend. Pairing those two on the PP, IMO, would be wiser than 5 on 5.
I also like the kid and think he could be really good. I also think giving up breakaways is not a good idea. Unlike the Canes, other teams actually score on those.
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 6:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree McWannabePits is a lot like a younger Pits why not have them on different lines. There style is so close it could be like having two D lines with offensive power, something we could use since Big Chucky left.
I guess there's always next season.
Pack, my bad. Indeed there is a diff. between reckless and and risky. I agree it’s risky, disagree it’s reckless. With risk come rewards. I think the similarity between Pits and Mcgoal is sweet. Who better to know when to fall and cover? Add that with a kid like Sutter that can also get back, I think it would produce way more points than they’d cough up.
Kinda goes back to my big bitch last summer. Vet savvy means squat compared to young legs and heart. A competant 2 way forward or two and a couple D men that can actually score and this team is right back to run and gun and dangerous as hell.
Somebody mentioned Babs earlier, too. If Mcslapshot keeps it up, he may also be that cannon from the line. That puts a puck on net and chaos for the point scorers, like Staal. How much better would he feel if he didn’t have to carry the dam puck in and score with it? Just find the net and sweep in the trash. I think guys like Staal, Ruutu, Sutter and Lil Chuck would benifit from a Pits/Mckiller tandem. Not too mention the tandem would enjoy the luxury of youthful speed in Sutter, Lil Chuck and Rosie.
I’d be real stoked to see that get some ice time. So I’m sure Mo will screw it up!
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In the good old days if you commited adutery you were stoned, nowadays it's the other way around.
Wimmin can attract men with thier minds, seems a lot easier to do it with what they don't mind, though.
The right to bare arms is key. Though I'd pay to see more.
Sorry for messing up your self described “nickname.” Its resident troll not neighborhood troll, right?
Like I said, I see everybodies point about having them play together. I just like balance and I would also like to see some more balance in TOI. If Pits and McNugget play together, Mo will play them 35 minutes a game. By the time the playoffs roll around next year, their legs will have fallen off.
I know your top line and top pairing will get more ice time than others. I just would like to see us not run our players (forwards, defensemen, and GOALIES) into the ground.
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 8:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That is a good point about TOI. I think that’s a coaching issue and whole ‘nuther ballgame. I’m sure we will chew on that all summer!
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In the good old days if you commited adutery you were stoned, nowadays it's the other way around.
Wimmin can attract men with thier minds, seems a lot easier to do it with what they don't mind, though.
The right to bare arms is key. Though I'd pay to see more.
And thanks for the apology!
Da, Da, Da, Da, Da, McLovin’ It!
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 8:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
McBeast!
You gotta love the name plays you get with his name, too!
Mcbeer
McOvechkinsux
etc.
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In the good old days if you commited adutery you were stoned, nowadays it's the other way around.
Wimmin can attract men with thier minds, seems a lot easier to do it with what they don't mind, though.
The right to bare arms is key. Though I'd pay to see more.
JEEZ can’t y’all get it right?? IT’S MCCUTIE!!!!!! :)
"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason
That will never be typed for said by me! I’m sticking with McNugget or McLovin’ at least until I can come up with something else.
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 9:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
how about McAwesome!
"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."
I’m kind of liking McLovin’. And you could always reference the movie that came from. You could call McLovin’ “Super Bad.”
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 9:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah...
McLovin’ was a badass in the end, wasn’t he? He got it all!
by Raccoon Fink on Mar 22, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I like McLovin!! (but not necessarily in the same context..nevermind)
"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason
J,
You’ve got to get your head out of the gutter. :D
So, who wins your affection at the start of next season, Timmy or McLovin?
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 10:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My guess? Timmy all the way. With a double side order of Camtasticness and McCutie.
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
You gals have to stop using “your” nickname for McLovin! It sounds like he’s a puppy or something. It’s like calling him “shmoopy” from the old Seinfield episode.
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 10:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe the words “puppy dog” have been bandied about in McCutie-related conversations before. And not a chance that we stop, especially now that we know how much you guys like it! :D
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
Well, I guess you need something “cute,” since you’re also a fan of “Herpes Mouth!”
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by PackPride17 on Mar 22, 2010 10:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pitts concern though
My only problem with pairing with Joni, Joni is prone to get a case of the drag ass. Having two offensive minded D man, who know how to hussle there ass back to D with a quickness..is one thing, but Joni seems far to often to be dragging at the wrong crucial times and that would require McBain to have to play much more D aware. Hence I think a Gleason McBain, or maybe even a Carson McBain pairing might work out better…
I understand Pitts puts in huge amounts of TOI, but over last couple of games he has caused a break away by being slow moving out of box, slow to get back to help, and caused a too many men on the ice penalty during a powerplay no less, all by dragging ass on or off ice…
With injuries it may be more difficult at the moment, but end goal should be to bring Joni’s TOI numbers down a little to help keep him energized through whole game. I mean its great he can “play” 30 mins and all, but when he is so exhausted he causes a too many men on ice penalty while we are on a freaking power play, because he can’t shamble his big Finnish rear off the ice, makes ya think hmm maybe we should get him a bit more rest.
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