All Quiet - For Now: Trade Deadline Day Open Thread
by Bob Wage on Mar 3, 2010 10:14 AM EST
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PrintRay Whitney might be traded and he might not. There is no word yet on Aaron Ward and there are new rumors about Erik Cole. Jim Rutherford's phone must be ringing off the hook.
Come in to chat about things here. If you hear about a rumor, feel free to share. There are no rumor police from TSN to shoot you down. This is a good day to talk about possibilities. It's back to reality tomorrow.
If we see a Canes related breaking story, we will post it and start a new thread to discuss it.
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I personally think that it would be a mistake by JR to not get something for Whitney. As wanted as he is out there, i believe that something is better than nothing.
I agree.
I think I said this yesterday but him wanting an extention from what ever team we trade him to scares me a bit. If he stays it looks like JR will sign him for too much money for too long a time.
The Rod Brind’Amour experience should make us all think twice about wanting to lock up older players for more than one year.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I think JR will soften and take a first and a prospect as opposed to a first and a roster player. However, if Raffi Torres gets a first, then there’s no telling what Ray can bring in.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
I think the asking price for ray is right on point. based on what the other deals where and the kind of player ray is, its a good deal for both sides (1st and…)
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Whitney, Ward, Yelle, Corvo, Walker All Traded
I agree. In the end with much gnashing of teeth, teams will acquire Whitney for the asking price. Ward’s trade should be announced any moment. Corvo, too, is very valuable to teams in the playoffs and they will make an offer Jim Rutherford can’t turn down. I think Corvo is making a mistake not to instruct his agent to work out a two year extension are a fair price (not maximum UFA price) to stay in Carolina. Corvo is so introspective that he needs nurturing environments to succeed Why take the risk and the psychological pain when the money being offered at Carolina would provide him with financial security for the rest of his life. Additionally, Corvo can extend his playing career by settling down at Carolina. It’s simply too logical for sports agents to comprehend, I guess. Yelle should be attractive as a penalty killing experienced center. Walker is all heart and is versatile. Teams that know him would realize he can help them in the playoff grind. His legs are rested because of his upper body injuries.
The Joy of Aaron Ward trade
This trade is excellent for Carolina. Aaron Ward needed to be banished from Caniac Land. Pogge is a viable goalie prospect as a hedge against untimely injuries. A fourth round pick taken blindfolded among the list of available players at the draft would be better than having A. Ward. Much better than the used skates and broken sticks I would have taken for him.
I personally do not think Whitney is going anywhere. If the Canes were completely out of the playoff chase I say yes. But last night win moved us a point closer. Canes are only 8 points out of the final spot, and frankly are on a “run”. Not gonna mess with the Mojo. As far as A. Ward and Yelle, yes, they really are not figuring into the run anyway. Then again I could be proved completely wrong. We will see…..
THE CANES ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PLAYOFF CHASE. Ergo, you think Whitney is going.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
tsn not picking ward for team canada 2014
i have to say i bet hell be there, may even play over luongo.
fluery is a bigger challenge IMO
I’m also looking at the ESPN Live Chat and this just crossed it:
Pierre LeBrun: From Canes GM Jim Rutherford to me half an hour ago: likely won’t trade Ray Whitney at this point…. We’ll see about that… lots of posturing on this day
I think they both have one more year left ( icant remeber if rosie signed for 2 or 3 years)
cole no
Rosie-we would have to wait and see
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
I think chris is referring to JR’s comments last summer, right before he signed them.
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
by Jamie Kellner on Mar 3, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
=D
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
by Jamie Kellner on Mar 3, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
That’s what I wanted to hear. A deal must be imminent!
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Sisu
by Jamie Kellner on Mar 3, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
My take is that Jim Rutherford is seeing the Whitney/Staal/Jokinen line being totally on fire. He has to like Boychuk/Sutter/Ruutu for next year. Then they have to find a third line center with some size, strength, and Gleason/Ruutu inner rage or perhaps if the Canes get lucky, they are able to draft Seguin. Would Boston rather have Fowler or Seguin with Toronto’s pick? At worst, the Hurricanes get Fowler — which some well-informed participants at CC are advocating even as a #2 pick.
So assume for a moment that the third line is Tlusty/Sequin o Jordan Staalesque center/ Cole
Fourth line could be LaRose/Dwyer/Kostopoulos
It’s non-traditional hockey logic; but running four real lines grinds down opposing teams.
Jim Rutherford has set a price for Whitney and won’t budge. In the GM business if you blink once, you spend the rest of your career being hammered. It’s pure negotiation theory. You’d rather lose a deal and stick to your guns than back down and spend the rest of your professional life in reverse.
The Hurricanes
I actually really like LaRose on that second line. LaRose-Sutter-Ruutu, I just like that. Also, with the Panthers cleaning house and how we are playing, I say the 4th overall pick is the best we can expect and it might be lower than that. So, we’re probably out of the running for the top 3.
The Triple Golden One, Eric Staal!
I’m not sold on LaRose being on the second line. I’m as big of a fan of LaRose as it comes, but he’s not a guy who can create his own shot/goal, and I think that’s a requirement for being in the top six. He does will with others who can and has an advantage over many other teams third liners, plus he’s in a position where he can play with Staal if Staal is getting double shifted. The Staal double shifts were where many of his goals came last season.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
Regarding the Wizard, I just think he has so much value to a playoff push that some GM is going to make Ray and JR a sweet deal to get him.
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
The Canes players have an earlier tee time this year….not a chance of making the playoffs even though not mathmatically eliminated. Wait til we play OTT,PENS,CAPS,BRUINS…
everyone is seems convinced that the Canes can’t make the playoffs, so how did Washington com from 10 points back in the last month and knock us out of the playoffs? What is different now?
They only had to jump over one team. Us.
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
by Jamie Kellner on Mar 3, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
So my question is – in regards to Whitney – Is JR overplaying his hand or drinking the playoff Kool-Aid…
Or a bit of both..or something else..
Thoughts?
Another GM: Your asking way too much for a washed up ol winger.
JR: DONT MAKE ME COCK MY PIMP HAND
AnotherGM: You know, he might have a lot of gas left in the tank
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
doubt hes drinking the playoff coolaid,
that numbers website is the only thing giving US hope,
and i doubt he checks that, normal people know we are out…
from Canoe Sports - nothing new to report
TORONTO _ The biggest piece at the NHL trade deadline is at a standstill.
While Carolina Hurricanes GM Jim Rutherford wants to move Ray Whitney before the 3 p.m. tomorrow, the club is in a holding pattern.
There is no shortage of interest in Whitney but he still maintains he wants an extension. If it stays that way, he may not be going anywhere.
Teams don’t want to give him a two-year, $7 million deal. Only Los Angeles has been given permission to this point and they failed to get the deal done. Will that stance change? It could. We will be keeping an eye.
http://blog.canoe.ca/slam/2010/03/02/no_word_on_whitney_1
GM of CanesCountry.com
Regarding the Wizard:
wyshynski tweeted:
Thank god. They’re way off their 400-goal season pace right now. RT @SunGarrioch Washington interested in Ray Whitney2 minutes ago
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:25 AM EST reply actions
TSNBobMcKenzie
Capitals are interested in adding a player with a Cup ring and/or playoff experience as a stabilizing influence. Ray Whitney fits the bill.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
+1
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
If the only way to get him on a plane leaving raleigh is to ship him the washington, i would do it. Aslong as we get a sweet package in return.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t root for them, but I would watch them more just to watch some sweet hockey. I like AO. I think im the only one here that does,lol.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I liked him more before his behavior at the Olympics after the Russians lost.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
that wasn’t cool. The whole team had that snotty USSR attitude. All business bull shit.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
with Backstrom too….Watch out!
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Derek Morris to Phoenix...Boston is making room for someone .... this is on the NHL Network
GM of CanesCountry.com
it is also on TSN..as i b watching via www.channelsurfing.net…still no canes …hmmm watch if anything it will be @ 2:57 or not at all
Relax !! Even Micro Wave Popcorn takes time !! Go Canes !!
I don’t want to see Corvo go, but…. It is what it is.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Tor first rounder for Whitney/Corvo/2nd(not ours) I wonder if that would be enough?
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
TSNBobmckenzie: Tampa Bay players have been told their flight has been pushed back to 3:30 ET and not to be surprised if there are moves made.
this made me laugh
+1
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
How are they supposed to move if the plane’s just sitting there? ;)
by Raccoon Fink on Mar 3, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
My phone messaging from twitter is going off every 2 seconds….
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:33 AM EST reply actions
lol
I like this here http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Puck-Daddy-s-2010-Trade-Deadline-Chatter-Box-Da;_ylt=Aru3oV3mnCL8dEizyWuAsmN7vLYF?urn=nhl,225433
its pretty clean. Why is chip showing up everywhere as a “hockey expert”
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Because they know the Canes are trading and he is the first one to hear from Rutherford most of the time. Makes sense.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I added McKenzie and Dreger.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Me too.
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
by Jamie Kellner on Mar 3, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
jimmy murphy might be a good one to add aswell. We interviewed him on our local show durring the boston series (nice guy, did all the games and bs’d for a while off air) He really is pretty connected. It suprised me. He his mainly a boston/montreal guy.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
morris back to phx makes me happy.
i saw his day in the life and his family was so happy in phx, i remember being a little sad when he moved to NY.
(itsthe little things…)
Thats what its all about, the little things.
Im happy for anyone that gets the chance to leave the North East. —>esp. boston
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
TheHockeyNews
Phoenix has reacquired blueliner Derek Morris from Boston. Read Ryan Dixon’s analysis – http://shar.es/m30HL
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:34 AM EST reply actions
Sounds like a done deal
TSNBobMcKenzie
Boston gets a fourth-round pick in 2011 for Derek Morris.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
DownGoesBrown (Toronto Blog) adds this:
Refresh my memory, do they have any draft picks? Oh, right. RT @gottabe_KD: Now… Kaberle to Boston!
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Burke thought his team would be better this year. Also, don’t forget he can trade Kaberle and get one of those firsts back.
Still think Toronto lost that deal. Should have offered Kessel an offer sheet and given up a third in 2010 as opposed to the first in 2011, but hindsight is 20/20.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
I know Burke didn’t want to use the offer sheet, but, when he had Boston over the barrel after he acquired his second round pick back and had the option to use the offer sheet there was no reason to give up this years and next years first. I could have seen a second next year as opposed to a first, then maybe it’s not too bad.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
I think everyone thought they would be better than this. I don’t think they will be much better next year unless they make some other moves. Giggy is an upgrade in net, but I think his deficiencies were masked for a long time by Anaheim’s system….
Kaberle for their first to Boston would go along way in recouping their loss, for certain.
Whitney's going...
…count on it.
Makes no sense whatsoever for him not to move somewhere. Too much damage to reputation and contract value if he does not. Extension here now even in doubt, unless he offers big-time “hometown” discount, which also works against his interests. Probably no NTC this time, either, unless further discounts offered.
He just wants to pick the spot and the situation. Extension would be nice, but at the end of the day trade deadline, he’ll take the best location/situation on the table, extension or not.
Fun to watch this giant game of multi-player chicken play out. But there will be a deal. Count on it.
As long as we can get some dead weight off of the team I’ll be alright. So hopefully we can move Yelle, Ward, and Cole. The only way I want to see Whitney and/or Corvo leaving is if we get a good first rounder or young player in return. That’s my stance and I’m sticking to it.
But honestly, he’s off the team come the offseason anyway so I guess he really doesn’t matter one way or the other. It’d be nice to get a late round pick for him though. Now if we could just convince Brind’amour to retire…
yep
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
But…. he won’t be on the roster.
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
by Jamie Kellner on Mar 3, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Or, even better, on the ice during the games
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Brind'Amour Buy Out
Didn’t we wind up concluding that if Brind’Amour is bought out, the same rules apply to his buyout as other buyouts in terms of the CAP hit? Am I delusional about this or is my memory correct?
yelle signed for the min. didn’t he? someone’s gotta skate on the fourth line.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
It’s not much. You can check on the salary chart. I don’t know if it’s the minimum, but it’s less than $1m.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
$550k I believe
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I think yelle would be a good addition to any team, but I would rather keep him. Bring up the youngsters and having yelle around im sure would be good for their maturation
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i think its 550k, which has to be close to the minimum
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I’d hate to see Yeller go, he is a hell of a PK-er, on of the few offseason signings that has come in and played the role we expected (except for that hiccup in the beginning of the season) but if he can bring back some value… in JR I trust
by I am... Bobby Fierce! on Mar 3, 2010 10:44 AM EST reply actions
Morris v Ward
If Morris is worth a fourth in next years draft what is Ward worth? Can he bring back a fourth this year?
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
Yelle
When we picked up Yelle, both Bob McKenzie and Mike Milbury made good sounds about the move, including comments like “This is a guy you want out on the ice in the last minute of a game. He’ll win a lot of games for you.”
Quite a deal at $550M/yr.
This is important:
ice_chip
Canes could be close to deal on Aaron Ward. Keep an eye on Anaheim. other deals in the works, apparently. Stay tuned.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:47 AM EST reply actions
ice_chip
There are other options with Ward, but Anaheim a good possibility.
half a minute ago via web
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
half a minute ago via web
you are super fast.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
sigh This was on the ESPN blog…further proof of the hatred (not like we NEEDED any more proof)…
Pierre LeBrun: Well, I’m wearing a Hartford Whalers shirt as I work the blackberry :)
(seriously)
funny how much Whaler fans started caring about hockey once they lost their team
by I am... Bobby Fierce! on Mar 3, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Grazie, some people forget that there actually was a reason why teams like Quebec, Winnepeg, and Hartford moved. Granted the Whalers had a sweet sweater design and one of the best team names ever. You can’t get much more UNpolitically correct than Whalers, “We Kill Whales” that’s just bad ass (not that I actually condone killing whales, except the blue whale, I don’t trust ’em) the only way you can top that is with the Cape Cod Baby Seal Clubbers.
by I am... Bobby Fierce! on Mar 3, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
that is a great post bobby.
I dont think lebrun was hating, the whale is a great retro logo to where. Alot of things are more popular posthumously
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
that’s why we can’t have nice things!
by I am... Bobby Fierce! on Mar 3, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
I honestly think that they might just keep Ray around...
Most teams might not be willing to give us the 1st round pick and a player in return, b/c that is the value I see in Whitney. Maybe signed in the off-season for 2-3 years and retires at the end. Ray would become a great coach or member of the Canes staff. :)
Dear Mr. Rutherford. Please make every effort to re-sign Ray Whitney to the Canes in the off-season so he retires here. Thank you! :)
You HAVE to trade Ray…there is no garauntee he’ll sign here in the offseason, hes an UFA!!!!!!
Something WILL happen, but probably really LATE
I’m saying if we don’t hear it by 1 we won’t hear of the deal until after 3:00. It will go down so close to the deadline that it won’t be announced until 3:30 a la Cole last year.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
agreed…and IMO some team will end up getting a bargain on whitney as I dont think a team will meet JR’s asking price…I think Ray will just get a first
Depends on what you mean. Picard is a roster player and Tlusty is a prospect. So i really think it will just be depending on the player not necessarily if he has logged over 160 games or so.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
The Canes will sign him…JR’s loyalty will get the best of him and he ‘s signs Whitney for three years and he becomes the new ’old man’ Brind’Amour
by Adam's Journey on Mar 3, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
But in the case of Ray it’s possible to have your cake and eat it too. Rent him out, get a return, and then re-sign him if you wish afterwards.
Assuming that’s what Ray wants too.
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
by Jamie Kellner on Mar 3, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
DarrenDreger
Doesnt sound like the Bruins are in, but they need a top 4 and a winger to play with Savard. Bruins will still be active.
Is this a Corvo/Whitney deal? Or Ward/Whitney?
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:54 AM EST reply actions
yeah, whitney’s too similar to Savard as it is.
Eric Staal...Team Canada first line
by drifterscape on Mar 3, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Corvo/Cole?
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Definitely sounds like Corvo/Whitney. I doubt they would want Ward back after having just traded him. And I think Toronto’s 1st is definitely in play here.
well they wanted to try out morris.
but it obviously didnt work
and ward played well with chara.. soo..
PHTonNBC
RT @DLozoNHL: Martin Skoula is headed to the New Jersey Devils.
Wasn’t Skoula sent to Toronto last night in the Poni….sky to Penguins deal?
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 10:56 AM EST reply actions
He was, but Toronto was planning on flipping him. They only took Skoula to make the salary work for Pitt. It’s one of the advantages Toronto has. They can always put a large contract in the AHL.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
Trade Center is confirming the deal, but not what the return is for Skoula.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
probably a pick unless NJD needs the cap space. Also Wyshynsnki added this:
Remember on Skoula: Lemaire was a huge supporter of him with the Wild.
2 minutes ago via web
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
DarrenDreger
Skouls to NJ for a middle round draft pick.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
whitney gonna be gone
yall are CRAZY thinking the wizard is staying, he wants some security in a longer term deal and the canes need a REGROUP no matter how we are playing now, still 5 games under .500 and even if we get into playoffs does anyone really expect us to go deep at all? without cam?
from the godfather: it’s not personal, Sonny. it’s business.
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:00 AM EST reply actions
I don’t know man, Pete-Dawg is looking pretty sound between the pipes. He doesn’t seem as brilliant as Ward but he’s bigger and I think over the long hall he gives up less softies.
And the way the rest of the East is playing
they actually have a shot.
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
true to his play but are we really a playoff team? do you want to spend the money to buy tickets and watch us as a 7th or 8th seed and get hammered? Trade the players, get the picks and some players that matter and see what the summer brings. Youth baby, we can’t be the oldest rteam in the league and expect long term success
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
weren’t they a six-seed last season?
by I am... Bobby Fierce! on Mar 3, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
edmonton was an 8th seed the year we won so it can happen- just how do you plan for that with the year they have had? JR is the master of the trade deadline and I’m counting on a much better balance to the team with money to spend on UFA if they choose.
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
So far it seems are play is getting better BECAUSE of the youth, so yeah, I encourage more trades for youth. If we fade towards the end then fine, at least we have a bright future and a high draft pick. But if we make the playoffs then do you really think we’ll be an early exit?? I mean if we somehow make the playoffs it’d be one of the biggest comeback in NHL and we’d be by far the hottest team in the NHL. Every team would fear us.
hard to put the words ‘fear’ and ‘canes’ together in same sentence; i love the play now but we are just not strong and deep enough to make a difference……never mind the small point that we’re 8 points out of LAST place for playoffs.
too much ifs and whens and maybes, JR has got to move and fix this team now.
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
All I’m saying is that if we somehow make the playoffs, that would mean we’d have to have a closing record of like 21 wins and 4 losses. That’s insane. How would you not fear that team?
ok, I agree. now wake up and throw some cold water on your face, that is a hell of a nap you just took!
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
yup, I’d like to see the canes in it for sure, would be a great story and with staal leading the team and maybe a rookie in the pipes, we could make some move. I hope we do it with whitney, ward, corvo and cole gone- imagine the return we would get for all of them packed up and outta here? picks, youth and money to spend.
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think we’re getting into the tournament, not by a long shot. However, if in some parallel universe they were able to win all of their remaining games and make it, momentum plays a huge role in the NHL, moreso than any other major sport, every season we see 6, 7 and 8 seeds that have had to play great hockey for a month to get into the postseason and beat top seeds that have spent that time coasting through their schedule. In this parallel universe I can see the Canes making it to at least the second round.
I kind of want to go to this new universe now… it’s so full of optimism.
by I am... Bobby Fierce! on Mar 3, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
I think the ’Canes have enough historic mojo from past success that any team we play in the Playoffs, whenever we happen to make it, will have a little Fear.
Eric Staal...Team Canada first line
by drifterscape on Mar 3, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
11:00am and all is still the same.
Call me the village caller.
Jenn will be the village crier.
Any takers or recommendations for village idiot?
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
Does this person sit
in section 330, Row A?
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
330 actually
329 has no lower seats then the ones I see you in right over the tunnel.
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
Ray Better Be A Rental
He better retire a Cane…not his fault that MO is an idiot.
+2
All I can say is I think Mo learned something this season
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
don’t we also have an associate head coach?
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Ok
Correction: He better retire a Cane…not his fault that MORon are an idiots.
MoRon… thats funny in a 3rd grade kinda way. Just my level
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree. It is not Whitney’s fault or Maurice’s fault that (1) Aaron ward was awful through the first twenty to twenty-five games; (2) Wallin was slow and really hated the chest on chest, pound your defensive assignment into the Club Row style of Maurice/Francis/Rowe hockey; (3) Brind’Amour was playing top 6 minutes (20 minutes a game) and was far too slow to keep up and lacked the desire to finish even one check a game; and (4) Yelle was terrible at the start of he season with stupid, untimely penalties, etc. I agree that Whitney and Cullen and perhaps Corvo are having their careers and family lives changed, perhaps for the worst, because of the miscues of other veterans. I know it is all part of NHL hockey, but that aspect upsets me at a personal level. I really hold a deep resentment toward A. Ward, Wallin, Yelle, and Brind’Amour because I think they didn’t man up and they let down their friends.
He's also fighting to hang around
gotta find his niche
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mikemaniscalco
Aaron Ward deal is close to being done, it is not a return to Boston. http://bit.ly/ddulQh
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Ontario Spitfires?
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
Nope
their goal tender
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
ward to Anaheim for an old autorgaphed picture of Emilio Estevez and the dude who played that guy on Dawson’s Creek….
Can I get Teemu?
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
by Jamie Kellner on Mar 3, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I didn’t mean for my team ;-)
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
by Jamie Kellner on Mar 3, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll be here all week.
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
by Jamie Kellner on Mar 3, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I want that dude from Anaheim that stole the stick from the little kid. We could use him when Buffalo’s in town.
Eric Staal...Team Canada first line
by drifterscape on Mar 3, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm…
Pierre LeBrun: FYI from Ducks source: trying hard to upgrade the blue-line and willing to move forwards Carter & Nokelainen to get it done
“upgrading the blur-line” and “Aaron Ward” linked in the same deal. Who’s a thunk it last November?
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
*the blue-line (duh)
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
I dont think he could create a blur if you were streaming the game on a 56k modem
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
nice
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
And that's a pretty low bar here
at CanesCountry
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
You got it right the first time
funny, even if it was inadvertent.
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
downgoesbrown is too funny
downGoesBrown: Just got back from the pro shop with my brand new Martin Skoula jersey. Did I miss anything?
in the twitter stream he’s a definite highlight.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I still feel that Ray Whitney may NOT be going anywhere…have i got proof ?? No just a hunch…
Relax !! Even Micro Wave Popcorn takes time !! Go Canes !!
whitney is outta here, say your goodbyes. doesn’t make any sense for him to stay, he’ll never get a bigger deal this summer and would be better off going to a playoff team and contributing-even without an extension-than staying with the canes ‘cause he ’ikes it here’.
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Its 11:18am — I think I’ve gotten enough work done for the day! Now that I’ve sifted through these hundreds of comments… whew!
Work? What's this work thing?
I just show up, get on a conference call about how network speed needs to be maximized and I do this all day.
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
Bah….TSN’s TradeCentre online feed is Canada only this year. Booooo….
Guess the audio feed will do.
Only 2 trades so far…about the pace of last year at this time…
there’s been more than that. no big big ones yet
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Only two I see are Morris to PHX and Skoula to NJ….Palushaj was at midnight…
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
d’agistini (sp) got traded to the blues
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
actually that might be right. there were a few trades that were up when i woke up, dont know when they happend.
oh and bob mckinzy traded his coffee for a tea.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Talk to y’all in a little while. Heading over to 1400 EMR to see who gets called off the ice.
Sees the world through ruuu-colored glasses...
Sisu
Ought to be memorable
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
kausatoday (kevin Allen at USA Today)
With cap space cleared in Boston, we are now on watch for the Bruins’ big move. Boston needs a scorer.
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:24 AM EST reply actions
patience, grasshopper
mirtle (James Mirtle, twitter):
Last year, little had happened by noon. Most of the activity always seems to come in between 1 and 3:30 p.m.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I just want a draft pick or a young player that I can be excited about when this is all said and done. I’m excited about Peters but that does me a whole hell of a lot of good because we’ll never see him here extensively.
I’d rather they keep Cole, Whitney, and Corvo myself. 8 points from a playoff spot….
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
8 points is one thing, but 8 points and 5 teams to jump is tough. Especially with the hard schedule we have. Besides, when was the last time Cole contributed anyway? At least now he could contribute towards a 2nd round draft pick.
Don’t look at the amount of teams we have to pass. I’m sure it looks daunting that way. 8 points can be made up in as little as 8 games. The way we;ve been playing, why can;t we do it?
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Well we can certainly win 8 straight games. But we also would have to count on all 5 of those teams losing more than half of their next 8.
All I’m saying is we shouldn’t just throw in the towel. Deal AWard for a mid pick if the opportunity presents itself. If we can’t get premium return for Whitney, then why not take a run? That’s what offseason is for…we have a lot of picks this year and a nice prospect cupboard right now.
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Us making a run now does nothing to stop the on again off again rollercoster ride we have had this decade.
We need to stink it up or trade for a top draft pick. Jussi leads our team in goals scored. I love Jussi but that says somthing
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
it’s FANTASY HOCKEY!!! We’re talking about the LAST playoff spot, the worst of the 8. Fix the team now and move on, guaranteed that is JR’s play today.
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
yup and yup- another good strong young goalie is a very good thing.
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions
cole and corvo crowd favorites but rather have the upside of draft picks and another prosepct- the cole deal last year was crazy, he’s never helathy and never puts up solid numbers
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:27 AM EST reply actions
more twitter comedy from Toronto:
DownGoesBrown : Reports say the Leafs will get a fifth for Skoula. No word yet what on whether it’s whiskey or scotch.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:28 AM EST reply actions
A "Fifth" as in singular?
Seems to me they need 19,000+ for each fan that goes to the game.
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
and what about Scotty Walker? is he even in play?
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:31 AM EST reply actions
excellent ROFL
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
WOW
DarrenDreger
Seidenberg to Boston.
less than 10 seconds ago via mobile web
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions
TSNBobMcKenzie
Full deal: Boston acquires Seidenberg and Bartowski from Fla for Craig Weller, Byron Bitz and a 2nd round pick.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
more salary dump? gearing up for a forward that makes close to 3 mill or a dman thatmakes close to the same?
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
takes ward out of the boston picture, they surely don’t need 2 slow defensemen
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Takes Corvo out for sure. That’s okay.
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Chip A made it sound like it was Anaheim calling for AWard anyway.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
hmmm interesting. maybe throw in tor 1st? sounds good to me,lol
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
interesting…….can’t imagine he wants seids, he wants picks and prosp[ects
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions
yup, JR is making the play for salary reductions, youth and picks. period. all the sentimental whitney whining means nothing, same for cole and corvo. all in play
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Do you get the feeling that JR doesn’t want to deal him at all, and is asking for outrageous return just in case someone decides to pay it?
yes
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
do yall really think he is asking too much?
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
yes…you have to trade Ray and he is worth ONLY what someone is willing to give up…
So…if it looks like no one is giving up what JR is asking – then hes asking too much
Not always.....
sometimes if it is not in your best interest to deal a valuable asset if you’re not getting anything to make it worth your while
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Exactly.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
JR would want more than the caps would give up to trade to a division team
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
There is a lot of time between now and 3:30pm
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
Sure there is…but I still say there’s no rush unless a team is falling over themselves to get him.
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
So they can lose him in the off-season for nothing? Yes, that’s a much better idea.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
Sorry….I’m not one of the majority it seems that think this season is lost. If we can’t resign him, well, we can’t resign him. But he’s our best scoring winger, and with 20 games left there is still plenty of time to make the playoffs.
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
And who said a 1st or 2nd or a prospect is a guaranteed anything? It’s still a risk to trade him for picks or youth.
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Again….sorry….glass half full here. 8 points in 20 games. The way we’re playing, I think it is very possible. And like last year, if we can just get in, even as an 8-seed, we have a good mix of experience and youth to make a good run.
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
8 points in twenty games and six or seven teams to jump. Your optimism is nice, but it’s unrealistic.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
Which is why we're fans
and I happen to agree with OriginalCaniacs optimism.
Is it logical? No.
Is it probable? No.
Is it reasonable? No.
But I still hope.
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3:30?
I thought this was a done deal at 3
by Gunning For The Cup on Mar 3, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Deadline is 3pm EST. Trades still get announced post-3pm, though.
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
staying until after lunch.
Eric Staal...Team Canada first line
by drifterscape on Mar 3, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
just told my wife seidenberg was going to the bruins
she said “too bad, we will miss him. do the bruins have a chance at the gold?”
nice. gotta love chicks that dig hockey. atleast she knew seids used to play here. lol
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I’m sorry to hear that.
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
What's this love thing?
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
Well my wife is awesome and loves hockey, and posts on CanesCountry, so we win!
by Raccoon Fink on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
mikemaniscalco
Reports are Ward is heading out West. reliable sources are saying the Ducks. http://bit.ly/aePHnq
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:40 AM EST reply actions
ice_chip
Ward to Anaheim for fourth-rounder and goalie Justin Pogge.
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:41 AM EST reply actions
a 4tt rounder? when Wallin got a 2nd? ouch. Who’s Pogge?
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
i was thinking a 5th fo ward. aristocrat’s premium vodka
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Pogge was once a pretty highly touted Goalie prospect , though his stock has fallen.
Cory where are you buddy I know you can do this more justice….
cory is always good for a scouting report. dude’s got a bank safe for a memory it seems.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
awww Gee I was hoping we’d not need another net minder…
Relax !! Even Micro Wave Popcorn takes time !! Go Canes !!
Could this put Justin Peters into play?
I like Peters, but with the investment into Ward and his style of goaltending he needs to be on a team that can afford to give him plenty of playing time. That place isn’t here when Cam’s healthy. So I could see Peters on the way out and Pogge take his place at the AHL level.
by Patrick Clarke on Mar 3, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I would wait and see what peter’s has got. the team was talking about him like they were ward in 06. Icewater in the veins and all. If peters looks legit….
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
could be one of them complicated 3 ways. Whitney to LA, J.Johnson to Washington (cause they need more primadonnas), and somebody to Raleigh from Wash.
Eric Staal...Team Canada first line
…..you see a deal like this and know that there are more players moving
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:45 AM EST reply actions
Pogge in the minors now that Peters is in the NHL. Also, likely to play in Charlotte next year and Peters will likely be the NHL backup.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
no matter if he fits our future plans or not, we still have to have someone between the pipes in the A
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
possible but I doubt it. This makes lets things in the minors re align for the duration of the season with Legace getting scratched and peters staying up as backup when Ward comes back.
On August 10, 2009, Pogge was traded to the Anaheim Ducks for a conditional 2011 draft pick.3
not very promising
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
And Wysh referred to him as a hockey insider on Puck Daddy. I was thinking our Chip Alexander as an insider?
Have you seen my playoff tickets?
by hotchipsnsalsa on Mar 3, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Lunchtime Predictions
JR fills the bucket with picks and prospects and moves Whitney, Corvo and Cole. Gets a first for Whitney. And he has a surpirse up his sleeve, another roster player that no one is talking about gets the ticket out of town: Samsonov or Pitkanen.
Off to lunch
by tenminmisconduct on Mar 3, 2010 11:48 AM EST reply actions
Well, that’s a pretty stout return for a guy about to hang them up.
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
funny in a different way:
DownGoesBrown
Hurricanes trade Ward in goaltending deal #technicallytrueheadlines
apparently many of the tweets are just saying Canes trade Ward. This is confusing to many people.
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:49 AM EST reply actions
Carolina Hurricanes defenceman Aaron Ward is on the move as he is headed to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for goaltender Justin Pogge and a fourth round draft pick.
Dear Mr. Rutherford. Please make every effort to re-sign Ray Whitney to the Canes in the off-season so he retires here. Thank you! :)
not sure why we need a 4th/5th goalie…
Dear Mr. Rutherford. Please make every effort to re-sign Ray Whitney to the Canes in the off-season so he retires here. Thank you! :)
Murphy needs a backup in Albany/Charlotte with J Peters showing he’s ready for the big show.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Alright…we got AWard out the door. Shed some salary, cleared some roster room. Not a huge loss. We now have a ton of AHL/NHL level goalies though…
Cam Ward, Manny Legace, Justin Peters, Mike Murphy, Justin Pogge by my count.
I think we’re pleasently stocked with 2010 picks here. Unless we’re talking a top-5 first rounder, do we really need to deal Whitney, Corvo, or Cole?
We’re not stocked enough. Corvo and Whitney are likely to go after this season, and will need to be replaced.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
you can never have enough draft picks. NEVER.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Never said they had “enough”….said “pleasently stocked”. Hockeymomof2 is right…no guarantees here. My money would be on keeping the trade trio and try to make the playoffs.
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
The playoffs won’t be happening and Whitney and Corvo will be gone in the off-season. Not trading them will doom this team to not making the playoffs in the next couple of seasons. If you don’t trade those two players then you’re the Thrashers. Do you really want the Canes to become the Thrashers?
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
Unless they’re 1st round, they’re a crap shoot. You need quantity to get lucky. (like buying raffle tickets)
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of Cole...
What exactly has been wrong with him?
That neck injury really slowed him down. Watch him pre-injury and he was explosive. I think a full year healthy would do wonders for him, though.
by OriginalCaniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Fourth round pick for Ward is conditional
As per Hurricanes.com the pick is either this year or next. No word on the specific condition.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
what’s up everyone, how’ s the Deadline so far?
by outlander_caniac on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 AM EST reply actions
And he added that Whitney is there. That’s bigger news.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently nothing is close tho. Surprised Chip didn’t mention him first. That’s what I mention by bigger news.
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing is eminent, but if Washington made a move, something will happen. JR is waiting patiently.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
he’s a goalie to the core of his being. Make the shooter commit…then “POUNCE!”
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed. As a matter of fact, that’s so good I’m mad I haven’t thought of that already. +2 for you.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
I second the +2, so now its more like +4
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
12:00 noon and Ward gone in Goalie trade
got you looking.
More to follow.
If the guys and gals who brought you the financial meltdown deserve big bonuses, where do I sign up?
Hallelujah, Ward is gone!!
Anything better than a bag of pucks is a huge win for us.
I have been waiting for this since Nov 1!!
Bwahaha
DownGoesBrown is hilarious.
12:05 p.m. – James Mirtle just tweeted: “The Leafs are practising at noon today and will fly to Boston after the trade deadline. We don’t know who won’t be on that flight yet.”
Look, MLSE has a lot of money. Just this one time, wouldn’t it be cool if they gave each player his own individual plane? I’m picturing 20 CF-18s all flying in formation. Then, if a player is traded, his plane peels off from the group and reroutes to his new destination. You’re telling me that wouldn’t make for great TV?
Do it, Peddie!
ROFL!
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I am convinced Aaron Ward was miserable at Carolina and never fit in. I don’t detest him; but I am over-joyed at the thought neither he nor Wallin will ever torpedo another Hurricanes game with their mistakes.
The dude bought a box for soldiers, and showed up for a season ticket holders signing the day he got placed on waivers. He’s a stand up guy as a person. His hockey play may be suspect at time, but he’s a good person.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
I think there is much to admire about Aaron Ward as a person. I do not think it was admirable that he was not mentally ready to play for the Hurricanes. There must be a story there we will never know. He has given much to the community and is a fine human being.
Like many a hockey player, he may of overestimated his skill going in to his late thirties. That happens.
From my wife, reading over my shoulder “I’m looking at you here, Brind’Amour”
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
The bitterness here over AWard really mystifies me.
He was far from the only Cane to have a godawful start to the season, and I’m pretty damn sure it’s not that he didn’t want to be here. People are putting an awful lot of stock in a single rumor from the Boston sports press.
Besides, it’s hard to blame any older player in the last year of their existing contract for wanting to go somewhere they’re in the hunt.
That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the rafters in Greensboro didn't see any of this coming.
Ward says Maurice came down and got him and told him while watching the NHL gamecenter in the training room.
Hopefully he heard it from Maurice before NHL Network. Thinking of Justin Williams…
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
waiting for you to complete that thought.
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he and Bret Hedican can pair up again in Battle of California style.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Another wow:
DarrenDreger
Canes are working on moving at least one more player. With Ward deal and another salary expected to go, it’s likely Ray Whitney stays in Car
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by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 12:11 PM EST reply actions
I’m still of the mind set that the person putting out that Ray is to stay is the same one trying to get the most value out of him (JR).
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
But still – this is some pretty steely “posturing”. Usually they use the lesser media hounds to play these games.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
TSNBobMcKenzie
Carolina’s Scott Walker is a target for some teams. Washington and Nashville are two teams who might like his grit and experience.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Mar 3, 2010 12:16 PM EST reply actions
I like it to. But if they trade Scotty it should be to a division foe of the Ducks.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
with less than 3 hours to go....
pretty quiet. The realities of the cap have made this day less stellar than it used it be……. Wow I can’t believe I am pining for pre lockout conditions!
yeah i does seem that way. plus we’ve already had one deadline.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Walker is leaving ice at practice
LTD is Tweeting that the coach is taking Walker off the ice at practice
GM of CanesCountry.com
Hurricaners trade Walker to Capitals – from TFP
by outlander_caniac on Mar 3, 2010 12:24 PM EST reply actions
If that’s the case, I’m happy for Scotty…give him one more pull at the Cup…but it will be wierd cause w/play the caps about 74 more times this month…
that would be 76 more times this month, but whos counting?
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Looking at the cap numbers
We got Tommy K for a steal
by Gunning For The Cup on Mar 3, 2010 12:25 PM EST reply actions
Nooo. TK is an awful fighter.
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by drifterscape on Mar 3, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
that is ridiculous...
walker is not worth a 7th round pick. JR is definitely on the crack pipe today.
Dear Mr. Rutherford. Please make every effort to re-sign Ray Whitney to the Canes in the off-season so he retires here. Thank you! :)
http://www2.tsn.ca/window/TradeCentre2010/tradetracker.aspx
Dear Mr. Rutherford. Please make every effort to re-sign Ray Whitney to the Canes in the off-season so he retires here. Thank you! :)
Yep. PK said “get ’em out of here”.
I’d hate to think I spent $50M+ on that bunch for lollygagging all over the ice for the first few months of the season.
you lollygag to the bench, you lollygag to the lockroom, you lollygag to the ice… YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MAKES YOU?
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
you know when you look at it, you have to say, roughly the same group of guys is now looking like world beaters. So maybe it had less to do with the team assembled and more to do with how well they were prepared…….coaching anyone?
ive never questioned the talent of the team. I don’t really know.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
congrads Scotty
I would HATE to see the Caps win the Cup… but I would love to see Scott Walker win it.
by packpigskinfan25 on Mar 3, 2010 12:29 PM EST reply actions
Look, you can say what you will but this is a truly, classy move by JR….there’s no way he makes this trade except to give Scotty a shot…truly a “heart over head” move….I’m happy to get anything back but I’m really happy for Scott Walker. Give it you best shot, Scotty, but don’t play well against us…
Look at it this way....
Not that I wish this at all but if Scotty gets hurt and misses most of the rest of our season then at least we got something for him.
by Gunning For The Cup on Mar 3, 2010 12:32 PM EST reply actions
Small potatoes out
Ward and Walker are gone. Only Yelle remains of the small potatoes players. Now time to focus on Corvo and Whitney.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
bye Scotty & Aaron…it was real and hopefully Scotty will finally get That RING !!
Relax !! Even Micro Wave Popcorn takes time !! Go Canes !!
It would be bittersweet, but I would like to see Walker get a ring even if it’s with Washington.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
itll take more than scotty for me to feel anything except anger and rage at washington winning the cup…..
Oh no...
Still won’t be happy Washington wins the cup.
But I’d be happy SCOTTY won the cup. ;)
by Raccoon Fink on Mar 3, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Haha…I was just thinking…what if somehow we make the playoffs and match up against the Caps in the first round and then beat them. How would Scotty be feeling?
althoguht, just to say it
how much would it suck for scotty if we did make the playoffs and then beat wash in the first round. just sayin
yes it would
suck for that to happen but my hope is the Scotty with the Caps ould get that ring
Relax !! Even Micro Wave Popcorn takes time !! Go Canes !!
Things are picking up!
It’s 12:30, the trades are picking up. It’s all happening.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
my hangover is making me emotional (thanks guys)
ice_chip Walker very emotional about leaving. Gave Rod Brind’Amour a big hug and handshake.
Amen
you have to admit fior a team the size the Canes are…at times there are and can be a very class act …as far as the way people are assemilated ( no not the borg either) into the organization…i am happy for Scotty
Relax !! Even Micro Wave Popcorn takes time !! Go Canes !!
LOL
It’s like these guys are just randomly skating around the ice waiting to see which one gets hauled out back and shot. When you get chosen you get one last good bye with Brindy.
Why would you move out UFA to re-sign someone. Walker had no money committed to him next season. That doesn’t add up.
Do not doubt the pimp hand.
It has to do with saving money this year and being able to financially afford to keep Whitney. If Whitney stays and is not traded at the deadline, he is likely to re-sign. There is no direct one to one correlation; but the issues are related. I really admire Walker, but I would much rather the money allocated for salary go to Whitney.
yep posturing. we know how it really is man.
by CarolinaCanes on Mar 3, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
More like clearing a roster spot for a Rat to finish the year.
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by drifterscape on Mar 3, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I’d like to get either Mueller or Porter….both even….What about a deal still in the works w/PHX…any rumors?
is it possible that with the acquisition of Pogge that Legace may be moved? He does bring experience, depth, etc.. and Peters looks capable of handling the remainder of the season as top dog.
I don’t see it happening, as they need Murphy to be getting starts in the A, bringing him up to warm the pine in the bigs hurst his development, IMO. Plus Pogge has no business in a NHL sweater at this point either.
If Cam was healthy, yeah, I think that was the master plan.
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by drifterscape on Mar 3, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions