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Canes Country Members' Choice Awards: The Norris

The James Norris Memorial Trophy on display at the Hockey Hall of Fame, via upload.wikimedia.org

While the Carolina Hurricanes 2009-10 NHL season fell short of the expectations we brought to the table back in October, that doesn’t meant there weren’t many bright spots for the players and fans this season. Canes Country thought we’d look back at some individuals whose performances were exemplary, and whose efforts and skill inspired us to keep watching. Using the traditional team and annual NHL Awards as a guide, Cory, Bob and I have each nominated a player from the Carolina roster for nine of these awards. Over the next week, we will ask you, our insightful readers, to vote for and tell us why you think one Hurricane player deserves our recognition for a job well done

What is it? 

The James Norris Memorial Trophy is an annual award given to the defense player who demonstrates throughout the season the greatest all-round ability in the position. The winner is selected in a poll of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association at the end of the regular season.   

The James Norris Memorial Trophy was presented in 1953 by the four children of the late James Norris in memory of the former owner-president of the Detroit Red Wings.

Who received the Norris over the last 3 years?

2009: Zdeno Chara, Boston Bruins

2007, 2008: Nicklas LidstromDetroit Red Wings (making six times in seven years)


After the jump Bob, Cory and Hockeymom each make their nominations and tell why. 

Star-divide

 

And the nominees are:


Bob  nominates: Joni Pitkanen


GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2009 - Joni Pitkanen 71 6 40 46 -11 72 1 0 1 0 161 3.7

 

Playing defenseman in the NHL is one of the most difficult jobs in all of sports.  Not only are you asked  to defend against the offense in your end, you are expected to get the puck out of your zone, set up the forwards as they break out, and create offense if at all possible. 

When Pitkanen is on his game, he can look like the best defenseman in the entire league.  He dominates possession of the puck and can almost single-handedly control the flow of the game.   Few players show the vision of the ice that he displays.   

How many times has he hit childhood friend and countryman Jussi Jokinen with a breakaway or a cross ice pass for a score?  Perhaps it's no coincidence that Jokinen had a career year this season while teamed up with his friend?

At times this season, the backend has seemed lost without Pitkanen's ability to bring the puck out of the zone.  He has under-estimated ability to break up plays in his end and can be physical, (sometimes too much so), when he feels it is necessary. 

Not only did the Finn more than double the offensive production of any other of the team's blueliners, he outscored all but three of the forwards on the team. 

If another defenseman got hurt in a game, who was called upon to skate over 30 minutes in that contest? Pitkanen had to do it repeatedly.   He led all skaters in the entire NHL in average ice time per game by almost an entire minute.  Obviously, his coach feels he is the best defenseman on the team.  How do you feel?

 

Cory Lavalette nominates: Brett Carson


GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2009 - Brett Carson 54 2 10 12 5 12 0 0 0 0 42 4.8

 

Carson showed flashes of what he was capable of last season, and when given the chance to fill a full-time role this year, the 24-year-old seized his opportunity and solidified his place in the NHL. Carson won't blow you away with any part of his game, but his steady, defense-first style served him well. As he becomes more comfortable with the defensive duties, Carson's untapped offensive potential should blossom, as it did in the AHL last year and during 14 games this season. You won't confuse Carson with Mike Green in the offensive zone, nor will you see him punish defenders a la Chris Pronger, but you should see him continue to grow in his fifth professional season in 2010-11.

When Gleason and Pitkanen were hurt, Carson was still in the lineup. When the team needed someone on the point of the powerplay, Carson filled in admirably. When a solid first pass needed to be made, Carson never dished the puck away. He may not do it with the flash of No. 25 or the grit of No. 6, but Carolina's No. 27 can do a little of everything.

 

Hockeymomof2 nominates: Tim Gleason


GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2009 - Tim Gleason 61 5 14 19 0 78 1 1 0 0 76 6.6

 

This was the season when Tim Gleason emerged as the indisputable future leader of the Hurricanes defense. I made my case for him Monday when I nominated him for the Chiasson, recalling some memorable moments Gleason gave us this year that will become part of his story. But let's look at the stats here. Above we see only offensive side, and he sure stepped up when we needed a point man on the power-play, and even effective pinched on a few choice occasions (much to the Caniacs' surprise and delight). Compared to last year, when he didn't score a single goal in the regular season, he added this whole new dimension to his game, just when the Canes desperately needed to see the puck in the back of the net. Only Pitkanen, who played 10 more games, had more goals and assists from the blueline (though we know Joni isn't exactly guaranteed to be at the blueline. Even when he's supposed to be).

Gleason's D-stats were more impressive and exactly what this team needed to hold the back-end together. Reliable, consistent, tenacious. He was credited with 149 hits (compared to Pits with 66 or Carson's 77), and per game, he led the team for blocked shots with 122. In the end, those blocked shots were really his downfall. Pucks to the face, twice, produced some scary-looking black tracks, and a game or 2 missed with UBI's. Shots blocked down low eventually lead to a broken bone in his foot that ended his season early.

The last element of the "Gleason Package" showed up in the first period of the first game vs the Flyers in October. Gleason was the grit to keep the opponent's action on ice fair and clean. Dan Carcillo (Oct 2), Bill Guerin (Dec 7), and Gregory Campbell (Feb 9) all found out not to take liberties, and with Tim's 6 majors, we never doubted who was our team's on-ice one-man justice league.

If the Norris is about looking for "the greatest all-around ability in a defenseman", Tim Gleason is The Man for the Hurricanes this season.

 

Finally, if you'd like to look back on the previous award posts from this week and see the results and/or vote (polls are still open) here are those links:

The ChiassonThe Vezina,  The Calder, The Lady ByngThe Masterton 

Poll
Among the Hurricanes players, during the 2009-10 season, who do you think should be recognized as being the defenseman who demonstrated the greatest all-round ability in the position?
Brett Carson
6 votes
Tim Gleason
141 votes
Joni Pitkanen
89 votes
None of the above (and please share your thoughts in the comments)
2 votes

238 votes | Poll has closed

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joni/ timmy

Clearly stats don’t give a “3D” view of the totality of a D-man’s efforts and results! Either Joni or Timmy could be “THE MAN”!. I put Joni ahead (based on stats), but the intangibles are just as important, so i call it a TIE!! I just hope we have them here for a long time!!
  PS- JR please PLEASE bring Corvo back, and i’d like Pothier re-upped too!!

by randycane on Apr 17, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Please JR, don’t bring back Corvo, let’s start progressing to the “new” Hurricanes and stop recycling players.

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by PackPride17 on Apr 17, 2010 7:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What are your thoughts on Picard? I don’t have a good read or a good feeling I’m afraid.

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by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s still young and could develop into a solid defenseman. I think because he still has potential and our other young defensemen, his greatest value to us would be as a trade asset. Maybe combining him and Cole or Samsonov could yield something in return (a good prospect or solid 3rd line center).

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by PackPride17 on Apr 17, 2010 7:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Commence Tim-related Jen squealing in 5…4…3…2…

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 1:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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TIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Nuff said ;)

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Apr 17, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I take it you didn’t vote for Pits…

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

;)

it’s not that he wasn’t as deserving, there wasn’t an all of the above choice!!

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Apr 17, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus he doesn’t have the same…appeal that Timmy does.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Gleasons style, but had to vote for the monster minutes that Pits threw down. Unreal of Pits to play that much and that often.

 I like what Cory had to say on Carson and agree, just sorta need a whole year in the mix to earn a vote from me.

 Can we say the D is shaping up though? I think Timmy has arrived as our first pairing D man. Pits, like pumpkin head or not is a minute eating machine and he does a good job. Throw in Carson and the rest and we have the start of a fgood thing.

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'09-'10 needed more than a spoonful of sugar, felt like a broken glass and battery acid suppository.

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by Paladin6 on Apr 17, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Let me preface my vote explanation with this: I like Gleason’s style of play over just about any other player, let alone D man, we have.

However, I think Pits has earned this one. To play the number of minutes he plays and to be so key to this team’s offensive abilities all while managing not to be a complete mess in his own end earns him my respect and vote.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it’s safe to say both Joni and Gleason are deserving and they are complementary players. Timmy missed over 20 games this season – which is not helpful to his case either. Beyond that, I’m not sure an A+ fight card is also a requirement (or even considered in the "plus column" of the Norris descriptors – I kind of made that up) but since it really was helpful defensively, and this is just our little survey, I didn’t feel like it was too much of a stretch.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I get winded just looking at Joni’s TOI after a game.

by Iggy Reilly on Apr 17, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Pitkanen

As a popularity poll, no question Gleason offers formidable competition and even as we acknowledge Carson’s quiet dependability we still don’t do it justice.

But, in the spirit of the league-wide voting, offensive production counts for a lot with this award, and Pitkanen certainly has offensive production.

In addition, his defensive skills have noticeably improved (Tom Rowe?) and his pure puck-moving ability is just sublime at times.

Now we see why JR pursued him through two teams to put him in a Canes jersey. Long time coming to have such breakout ability as an offensive weapon.

Add in league-leading minutes, the psychic connection to fellow Finns, and a hint of nasty physicality and…well, he got my vote.

by Elsker on Apr 17, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted for the big Finn.

I think Timmy had more on-ice + off-ice impact on the team, but I think Joni had more on-ice impact. I think when he was out of this lineup his absence was felt more.

But I think all three made excellent strides in their development this year in terms of being more complete players with their defensive contributions.

Phoblographer and Finn Aficionado
SISU

by Jamie Kellner on Apr 17, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Very tough decision here. Timmy is the rock, the one that keeps everything stable on the backend. Pumpkinhead is the iron man, the one that plays half of the game and his puck-moving is so important to the whole game. I’m going with Pits because without him the team would struggle getting the puck out of the defensive zone. Both players though are extremely important to not only the blueline, but the entire team.

One thing that must be worked on for next season will be limiting Pits ice time to more accepted levels. We need to preserve him for the whole season by cutting his ice time to about 25 minutes a game. We also need to keep Cam’s number of games to around 50 to 55. Save his back and give the backup a shot every once in a while.

I’ll also add that the “Master of the Ice Disaster” award goes to AWard. He IMO is the undeniable leader in that category for the Canes this season.

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by PackPride17 on Apr 17, 2010 6:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

One thing that must be worked on for next season will be limiting Pits ice time to more accepted levels. We need to preserve him for the whole season by cutting his ice time to about 25 minutes a game.

Mo said in the last press conference that they needed to work on shortening the lengths of his shifts a bit.

I believe it’s not only the number of shifts that Pitkanen is sent out to skate (especially since he’s the band-aid when there’s a D-man injury), but the lengths of those shifts.

Once he gets out there, it’s hard to get him off. That also contributes to that large TOI and the fatigue factor (if any) at the end of the game.

by Elsker on Apr 17, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless he is a cyborg there is a fatigue factor. Fatigue leads to mistakes, and penalties and injuries. The saddle on some players backs has got to be in the top 3 priorities for the off season…

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also voted for Pitts. He is a one man machine when bringing the puck up ice and can break the puck out of our zone. His passes alone to Jussi etc across ice make him a threat. ( teams wondering?? Monster blast or tape to tape pass) To top all this off you have the amount of TOI that was expected of him night in and night out. Last but not least is the Ugly side of Pitts that appears every few games. High elbows, cross checks while not an honest move they are effective…Pumpkinhead gets this nod.

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

HMof2 – really need to add the “all of the above” option on the voting.

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

by Cyn4Canes on Apr 17, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

That would likely garner 99.9% of the vote every time. We’re trying to force you guys to make the tough choices. Tough-love. (what’s wrong with you guys – all too soft, just like Sutter!)

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now who’s gonna be in trouble with CG… LOL

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t be the first time….

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what? Say that to his face.

And then let me fight your battle for you.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK but you have to fight, not lie down and take a beating…

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries. I’m fairly scrappy. Hopefully he hasn’t learned any fighting tips from anyone and the aggressive hug is his fighting style.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he has gotten tips from TK your gonna do just fine…

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured that since he’d have to punch down to get me, I’d just take him out at the knees.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recommend you stop right now, CG.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Setting myself up for trouble eh?

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I kinda forgot where I was there I think.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 18, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

You just want the hug part of the aggressive hugging.

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

by Cyn4Canes on Apr 17, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no way I can answer that without getting in trouble.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 18, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

A simple “yes” will do.

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

by Cyn4Canes on Apr 18, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Et tu HM? Et tu?

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Latin? Latin? I thought we were only to use PLAIN ENGLISH! Sheez!

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems we’re both breaking rules tonight.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it seems. (insert RF’s glaring hamster- does anyone know how he does that?)

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Click the image tag, paste a URL. :)

I usually go to Google image search and put in something like, “dramatic chipmunk animated gif” and go from there.

Oh, and it’s not a hamster, it’s…

DRAMATIC CHIPMUNK

by Raccoon Fink on Apr 20, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s it, I’ll just have to create 2 pseudo accounts and vote for all 3 options that way :)

Bah tough-love, that’s not love, just punishment.

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

by Cyn4Canes on Apr 17, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you log out you can still vote. As many times as you like.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

best Jerry Seinfeld voice

“I’m sure that we’ll all feel comfortable within the confines of the honor system…”

by Elsker on Apr 17, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do not know where else to post this but am I correct… all the traded Canes except A. Ward have a shot at the cup???

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, you’re right.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I read that a while back. Everyone JR traded except AWard is in the playoffs.

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by Jamie Kellner on Apr 17, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I posted that in a C&C – and I was so proud I didn’t display an ounce of snark in saying so. I’ve really been working on my impulse control these days. Except in the comments.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL sometimes it’s just best to let folks draw their own conclusions eh?

Phoblographer and Finn Aficionado
SISU

by Jamie Kellner on Apr 17, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess thats justice in so many ways…knowing the kind of decent guy he is though makes that tuff to say..

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albe may have a shot at the Cup, but he’s not making any friends in Vancouver. So. Many. Penalties.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t like playing in the Western Conference. Too fast, too talented around the net. (I can see where there would be an issue)

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this his first playoff experience? Because this is classic “doing too much too fast” syndrome and that’s really common in playoff rookies.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would have been elim’d by Pens when he played with Flyer last year. Not sure what happened while he was with Bruins. Again – Canucks only gave us a lousy 3rd rounder and I believe he’s not a rental. He has another year on his contract. That’s kinda pathetic.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He played 2 games with the Bruins in 07-08 playoffs and 6 games with Flyers last year..

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

While racking up 1 point and 10 PIM. He’s already got 17 with the Canucks. Geez.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No clue why I liked him with the Canes, maybe cause’ he was better than A. Ward???

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

A orange traffic cone is better than A.Ward.

And I liked him with the Canes too. Maybe he fit better here than he did/does in other places?

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

West is harder than East.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The irony of that statement is Ward played so bad you noticed him more than you would a orange cone…

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saw him take one early..

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s actual playing for Vancouver a lot liked he played for us. Pretty solid, but taking some stupid penalties. Correct me if I’m wrong HM, but in the first game, LA scored on both of his penalties (I know they did on their 1st goal).

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by PackPride17 on Apr 17, 2010 10:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t remember the stupid penalties as much, but like maxcreek said, that’s probably because we had A.Ward to distract us.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 17, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I remember some of the stupid penalties he took. For a while, he seemed to have a streak for 2nd period penalties and it was almost always for something stupid. He would trip someone in the offensive zone or rough someone at the most inopportune time.

I’ve tried to block out “The Disaster’s” play with us, but it is impossible. I still can’t believe how bad he was for us this season. I actually hoped he moved/moves from Raleigh, I don’t ever want to run into him at the store or something.

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by PackPride17 on Apr 17, 2010 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If the Disaster your talking about is A.Ward, I heard he is in part ownership of that bar and tavern that opened at Davis and Highhouse..this is from another source not my direct knowledge

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems appropriate this discussion of AWard and Alberts is happening on a thread that was started off about the Canes Best Dman.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a good combination (AWard & a bar) for passionate Canes fans. We can go their get hammered and tell Aaron what we really think of him. I’m just joking, at least until I get drunk enough – then it might actually happen. :)

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by PackPride17 on Apr 17, 2010 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOL, he better be buying for anyone showing up with ticket stubs from this past season…

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

+4

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 18, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

He had 74 PIM’s with us in 62 games. Not bad for a D-man that played through the disastrous part of our season and was gone for the big finish.

But, hockeymomof2 is right, he had another year on his contract, with a $0.5M kicker upward from $0.8M to $1.3M.

That’s what got a deal signed when Vancouver inquired. “Sure!” said JR, “Take that contract.”

by Elsker on Apr 17, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re probably right – didn’t look at it closely.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s really amazing how different playoff hockey is compared to the regular season. Everyone becomes a lot more physical.

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by PackPride17 on Apr 17, 2010 11:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The Pens game last night was a good example of that..

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of like the Olympics, but messier. (as in more messy, not Mark)

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

wonder if that’s because the refs put away the whistles

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

by Cyn4Canes on Apr 17, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just noting; Cindy and Ovenchicken responded after lackluster first games. I’m still shocked on Ovie’s goal that the Habs just simply lost track of him and let him skate directly to the net.

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by PackPride17 on Apr 17, 2010 11:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Crosby won that game for the Pens last night – I was impressed. And Ovi’s 4 points was a career high, I think they said. I’m guessing they meant playoffs. That’s what franchise players/ captains are supposed to do. Staal has done that for us too.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

AO came out 2nd per and played hard and kept his cool. If Ovenchicken has any weakness its his frustration level and not being able to control it..

by max creek on Apr 17, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

They made a comment during the game that when Semin is on, he is the most talented player in the league. But they added that you never know what you’re going to get from him.

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by PackPride17 on Apr 17, 2010 11:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That’s why they joke about all the “Anti-Seminics” up at Japers’ Rink. He’s frustrating for sure.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s still pretty young. I’ll bet another 3 or 4 years he’ll learn how to manage a bit better. Same goes for Staal come to think of it.

Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."

by Carolyn Christians on Apr 17, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any chances of having live threads for some of these playoff games…??? I know this is not the right forum to be discussing some of this off topic stuff.

by max creek on Apr 18, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe we should have an open thread for all playoff talk each night?

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by Bob Wage on Apr 18, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

That would be great Bob.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 18, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, another playoff note; Kovalchuk got his 1st ever playoff win Friday night. Is hell freezing over?

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by PackPride17 on Apr 18, 2010 12:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Alberts with another penalty!

Does anybody else get reminded of Sutter when watching Ryan Kessler? Kessler seems to be a bigger, more physical version of Sutter. I hope Sutter isn’t going to command Kessler type money.

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by PackPride17 on Apr 18, 2010 12:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Tall, lanky , good speed, nose for the puck..in time Sutter should get his bucks..especially when he picks up his goal totals..

by max creek on Apr 18, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah those 21 goals…what a slouch. Trade him for pucks. Or better yet trade him for A.Ward.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Apr 18, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

My knack for putting my foot in my mouth amazes me at times…

by max creek on Apr 18, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was Tim Gleason…. and…. Who were those other guys?

Was Aaron Ward on our team this year?

"The coaches on the Carolina bench are all grinning like butchers dogs...."

by Mateos_Canes_Lamp on Apr 18, 2010 2:12 AM EDT reply actions  

JONI...but all are great!

I voted Pits because TOI, moving the puck outta the zone and offensive contribution…but the fact is all three are solid d-men – even Carson as a rookie…we have a great base right now in defense to build with…

RAKASTAN SUOMEN!!

by danicanes on Apr 18, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Gee I B

I B late again huh ?? :-{ my first thought would be for the BIG Fin -Joni…but ovewr all stats or not…I think Tim Gleason has Joni “manned out” ..not tbat Joni is a whimp or a woosie…nope not at all…but i think for a tough as nails ,take no prisoners,make no apolgies (as it’s a sign of weakness) type of player…it’s Tim Gleason all the way…
gots to run gang…be safe & enjoy the rest of the week end…

" Chadness" is contagious ! Go Canes !!

by CaniacSteve on Apr 18, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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