Tidbits: Playoffs And More
It's been a while since I dusted off the old Tidbits columns, so I figured it was time for some random thoughts about the Canes and the NHL. Usually these are stat-driven, but this time around I'm going more for the Larry King/USA Today scattered random thoughts approach.
• Lindy Ruff and Barry Trotz, the NHL's two longest-tenured head coaches, both got Round 1 boots from the postseason. Nashville now has five first-round exits under Trotz — the only coach in team history — and has never even forced a Game 7. Ruff took the Sabres to the Finals in 1999 and three other Eastern Conference Finals, but Buffalo's poor showing against Marc Savard-less Boston in the first round makes you wonder if it's time for a change. A solution? Both guys deserve a head coaching gig — maybe they should swap jobs for a year, just to change it up.
• Best I can tell, no player ever drafted by the Hurricanes has won a Stanley Cup unless they were on the 2006 team in Raleigh. With Jack Johnson and the Kings ousted already, that leaves Chicago's Andrew Ladd and San Jose's Nic Wallin as the only two remaining with a chance to break this unique curse.
• I keep reading articles about all of the prospects that could see time in Carolina next season, but why is no one mentioning Nick Dodge? The 2006 sixth-rounder has been a valuable all-situations center for Jeff Daniels in Albany and his four goals are tied for the most with the Rats through seven postseason games. With Rod Brind`Amour's future in doubt, the Canes could be looking for two centers this offseason. Let's say Zac Dalpe or a free agent fills the No. 3 centerman's job: wouldn't Dodge — a standout in his own end, on faceoffs and, as Daniels told me back in February, "steady, very professional and low maintenance" — make more sense at fourth-line center than playing Patrick Dwyer out of position? It's at least worth considering, I'd say.
• The cupboards seem pretty full in net right now, with Cam Ward locked in as the No. 1, Justin Peters set as the backup or top guy in the AHL, and Mike Murphy entering his second season. Throw in upcoming RFA Justin Pogge, who was acquired as part of the deadline trade that sent Aaron Ward to Anaheim, and the net seems stocked from top to bottom. But with Peters the frontrunner as Carolina's new backup and Murphy and Pogge — if the team keeps him — locked in a battle for the top job with the Checkers in 2010-11, the Canes need to add young depth in goal. Expect Carolina to use a draft pick, even if it's a very late one, on a goaltender.
• If Alex Ovechkin and the Caps fall flat tonight and lose to Montreal, will there be major questions about whether or not the Washington captain can win big games? His last two big ones have been flops: last year's Game 7 embarrassment (6-2) to the Pens, followed by Russia bowing out of the Olympics in weak fashion, 7-3, to Canada. Yes, Mike Green and Alexander Semin have shrunk from the spotlight this postseason, but Ovechkin is the captain and face of the team, and he needs this win badly. At least chief rival Sidney Crosby won't be on the other bench like the last two.
• The worst part of this postseason so far, outside of me not having Versus during a two-night hotel stay in Ann Arbor, Mich.? Seeing Phoenix captain Shane Doan get injured and subsequently miss the final four games of the seven-game series against Detroit. Would a healthy Doan have been in the difference in at least one of the team's three losses while he was out? Maybe, maybe not. But one thing I can guarantee: Phoenix would not have been trounced 6-1 in the series finale if they had their emotional leader at 100 percent on home ice.
• After 68 games in Albany and another 10 in Carolina with just 10 total penalty minutes, defenseman Jamie McBain has amassed eight PIMs in just seven playoff games, including one in each of the first three against Hershey. No wonder everyone's wondering if the Bears are getting preferential treatment in the second-round AHL series.
• Speaking of that Game 7, does anyone still think Nicklas Lidstrom has perhaps lost a step? His series-clincher performance would be an all-time memorable one for most players, but just another feather in the cap for the best defenseman of the era.
• If I had said at the beginning of the year two American-born goalies would be leading their teams to second round, maybe some would've guessed Jimmy Howard, but I doubt anyone would've listed Brian Boucher.
• Of the four Stanley Cup-winning coaches in this year's postseason, only one (New Jersey's Jacques Lemaire) got ousted in the first round. Philly's Peter Laviolette, Pittsburgh's Dan Byssma and Detroit's Mike Babcock all moved on to Round 2.
• I know Steven Stamkos had a monster year, but I think just about any GM would look back on the 2008 draft and choose No. 2 overall pick Drew Doughty ahead of Stamkos given what they know now.
• Finally, only eight times has a No. 8 topped a No. 1 seed in the first round since the league went to a seven-game opening-round format in 1994, three of which came in a seventh game. Only San Jose (1994, over Detroit; 2000 over St. Louis — both in seven games) has done it twice, while New Jersey (1998 six-game loss to Ottawa; 1999 seven-game loss to Pittsburgh) and Detroit (2006 six-game loss to Edmonton is the other) have both been victims twice. If Montreal were to knock of the Capitals, they too would join the two-time upset club, having knocked off Boston in 2002 in six games.
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Nick Dodge
I agree with you that Nick Dodge seems to be a natural for us to install as a fourth energy-line center, and I’ve been gently nudging him forward for that role all season.
Dodge played all 80 games for the Rats this season, with a 16-20-36 stat line and a team-leading +18 plus/minus.
In fact, I would love to have a home-grown fourth line and have it return to the traditional role assigned to such a line:
- form the basis of the PK unit
- pin down the opposition in their own zone with aggressive forechecking shifts, allowing us to slip out elements of the first line on tired defenders
- set the tone by showing the other lines just what it means to “keep the feet moving” and “finish your checks”
From his Clarkson days I’ve been calling Dodge “Brind’Amour Light” … he was one of college hockey’s best defensive forwards there, and was a top faceoff man despite playing the win (he’d take the draw, then move out to wing). I thought the move to center was natural for him — didn’t quite get why Clarkson had him on the wingm, anyway — and he could be a very good fit there. Next year might be a touch early, but he at least deserves mention, imo.
I’m not advocating rushing him into the position, but I do have him penciled in on the depth chart for that role.
At a minimum, I hope that he’s put on the Charlotte-to-Raleigh rotation, just to see what we’ve got, and whether or not it transfers to the NHL stage.
I think we’re on the same page — I’m saying the same.
by Cory Lavalette on Apr 28, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed we’re on the same page.
Also, for those that are not familiar with Mr. Dodge’s bio, he was team captain of the Clarkson (Erik Cole’s alma mater) squad his senior year and was also named as their MVP.
Keep Pothier then!
I can’t cheer for a team with 2 Clarkson grads, unless we have some RPI guys out there! I mean, we get Tripp in the booth (Harvard), as well…
Lidstrom
I think he’s lost a step, maybe the whole team has. This will be especially evident if SJ plays them physical.
It’s called getting old, anyone actually watch the ‘Canes this year? (yes I’m joking).
The team will under go some changes over the next couple years. Gonna be impossible to replace Lid/Rafi, so a new era will begin.
Don’t think a team with Helm, Datsyuk, Zet’s, et al has lost a step, just got a couple guys that ain’t able to play at the level they once did. The Wings do not lack speed or skill.
Gotta believe the outcome would be diff. if Doan were in and healthy, though. I kinda wanted the Yotes to go further. Would of been sweet to make it to the big dance. That said, We ain’t seen the last of that team, they will be a force to contend with for some time.
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Thanks for the tip about aging, but ya they’re at the edge of their window and it’s going to be tough to replace their back end. I think the biggest thing they’re missing from their Cup years is team toughness, now I know it didn’t end up hurting them against Phoenix, but if they have to play another 6 to 7 game series and SJ can pretty much do whatever they want to Detroit’s top players without repercussion they’re going to eventually lose someone really important because of a slash or big hit. If I’m SJ I’m running every one of their star players into the 3rd row every chance I get.
Seems like that’s the recipe for Detroit. I thought the Yotes had them with big bodys, lot’s of shots and good goal tending.
Guess not.
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Young hockey players, the future, the answer. Learn it, then live it.
Great stuff! Thanks! Perhaps I’m mistaken, but wasn’t old Craig Adams drafted (7th round or something) by the Canes?
Adams was..
Drafted by the Whalers in 96’.. so in a way. Im not sure if Cory was counting Hartford draft picks though…
-Cory- LETS GO CANES, #13 forever young.
by truheelzfan44 on Apr 28, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Plenty of ex-Whalers picks have. Off the top of my head…. Adams, Francis, Holik, Pratt and Giguere. Surely there’s many more.
by Cory Lavalette on Apr 28, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
9th round in ’96 (back when there was a 9th round) by the Hartford Whalers, thereby gaining the distinction of being their last draft pick ever.
And to think, he has his name now twice on the Cup, once with us, and once with the Penguins.
He’s the Zelig of hockey. I still startle at seeing him sitting beside Sidney Crosby on the bench.
OT: Two Notre Dame players arrested. One a first-rounder last year (Palmieri), another a projected early round pick this year (Sheahan):
Palmieri was drafted by the Ducks, not the Devils…….maybe this will cause Sheahan’s draft stock to drop and allow us to move up and get him in the end of the first or when we draft in the second……I’m not happy for his misfortune but maybe we’ll get lucky
I think this is a lot about nothing, but it probably will affect his draft position, he’ll get branded as risky because he made a dumb decision.
Seriously? A College Student gets an alcohol and public intoxication ticket and THAT is news story? What, Patrick Kane hasn’t taken a cab in a while?
If this hurt his Draft stock at all I’d hope we would jump all over that.
One ran from the cops, another tried to grab a Taser. Yeah, it’s a big deal.
by Cory Lavalette on Apr 28, 2010 9:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cory, I think from reading the article that Palmieri ran from the police and then grabbed the policeman’s taser, allegedly, during the struggle. There was no report of Sheahan doing anything other than consuming alcohol.
You’re right. I read it wrong. But it’s still a big deal, IMO.
by Cory Lavalette on Apr 28, 2010 9:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1…. I said alcohol and public intoxication tickets, not evading the police or resisting arrest.
I think a conservative estimate of college athletes under 21 that drink illegally would be around 99%. He just got caught.
I mean, for me it’s not a big deal. I did it in college, too. But in the eyes of NHL teams, it will cost him in the draft.
by Cory Lavalette on Apr 29, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Point of order please
while each of us has different ideals standards and etc…when it comes to the “business” side of ice hockey as the NHL sees and understands it…they demand that those who are or want & desire to be part of any NHL team has to meet and keep the standards they set…no matter how we or any of us here feels. and to prove my point…how many Bobby Clark types have been drafted or played very long in the NHL in the last 5-7 years ? Even though we all know and acknowledge that professional hockey (as hockey at all levels) is a very rough & rugged sport, but the days of brutal thuggary and acting badly on & off the ice is and will no longer be tolerated …So and again…no matter what our personal thoughts, ideals or belief systems or morals may be…we aint the NHL who sets the mark and standards…and as Baretta used to say…" And that’s the name of that tune" …i personally can’t see either one in a Canes or Checkers uniform…but i’m not employed by them am I ??/ hehehe…good article Cory…please keep doing this…
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sry … dunno why I put NJ. I knew it was ANA. lol
by Cory Lavalette on Apr 28, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I'm done for the most part....
The only teams I could have cared about winning th Cup are all gone.
No more Canes
No more Yotes
We’re left with the Craps (yeah I know it’s just a formality for game 7), the Whines, the Cannots, the Ruins, the Cryers, the Squawks, the Dead Thingsm and the Sharts.
Mailed in my season tickets for next year. Hopefully, I’ll be able to see the Canes go deep next season.
Go Canes. Anyone but the Whines!
All "Real Men" have one name in common: "Daddy"
SO MUCH FUN to read this post after the fact! hahahahahahaha
Phoblographer and Finn Aficionado
SISU
by Jamie Kellner on Apr 29, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup,
I still am happy that Overcheaver and the Craps got dumped but I still can’t believe it.
The Habs who didn’t know if they were going to be lacing up their skates or golf shoes until 2 days before the end of the season vs the Craps who started getting their plane and 3 nights only hotel reservations booked back in January?
That is so great.
Anyone else noticed that the West has seeds 1, 2, 3 and 5 while the East has seeds 4, 6, 7 and 8?
All "Real Men" have one name in common: "Daddy"
There was a bit of a twitter campaign on this. #needsmorescottwalker
Good news, eh?
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on Apr 28, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Stamkos
Doughty is awesome, but I would still take Stamkos over him in a heartbeat. 50 goal scorers are way too rare to pass up.
agree 100% what you said.
'AWARDS!' Nobody on this team deserves ANY awards.........well maybe JUSSI.
Even more rare are #1-#2 defenseman who can play 25+ minutes a game and are versatile enough to play anywhere, anytime. In this day and age, you’ll get the occasional 50 goal scorer, but how many of those goals are meaningful, or were goals to win big hockey games?
Doughty also is going to be wearing a “C” at some point for that team. I’d take Doughty in a heartbeat.
I’d say Stamkos is hands down the best goal scorer in the league behind Ovechkin.
#1-2 D who can play 25+ minutes a game and are versatile enough to play anywhere are much more common than 50 goal scorers. Just about every team has one, obviously Doughty is a damn good one. If I were looking for a D, there are still 5-10 I’d take over Doughty. If I was looking for a goal-scorer, I would only take Ovechkin over Stamkos.
As far as value (talent and age) no one is better than Doughty on defense. He’s a Norris finalist two years out of junior. Also, he’s a clear-cut No. 1, not a 1/2. Stamkos is great, but he also played next to a former Hart winner.
by Cory Lavalette on Apr 28, 2010 9:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well… By definition there are 30 clear cut No. 1 Defenders in the NHL. In the past ten years there have been ten total 50 goal scorers.
I’m not trying to take anything away from Doughty… If I were picking the best, young D in the whole NHL, I would pick Doughty.
However if I were picking the best, young goal-scoring and game-changing forward in the whole NHL, I would pick Stamkos. Personally I’d take the scoring.
Stamkos was the freaking Rocket Richard trophy winner in his 2nd year in the NHL, I think that trophy may be a little harder to get than the Norris. I doubt Doughty will even win the Norris over Duncan Keith.
He may be “game-changing” and all, but all the talent in the world doesn’t make up for solid leadership. (Ask Washington that question this morning. I’m still trying to find out where the leadership was the last 3 games there.)
Doughty took a team in LA that by most things I read was supposed to finish in the bottom 1/3 of the Western Conference, and helped them to a 6th seed. Stamkos plays along “better” players…and TB finished 12th.
I’d personally stick with Doughty, as much as I admire Stamkos’ skill.
"...they will not force us...they will stop degrading us...they will not control us...we will be victorious..."
Seems to me it’s what you need as a team. The ‘Nucks, Wings and such don’t need a Stamkos so a D guy is needed. If you need goals then a Stamkos is exactly what you would want.
If you need apples than choose an apple. If you need oranges than you choose an orange. Doesn’t seem like a level comparison to me. Both/either would be a great addition to ny team.
What about a pick like Kopitar?
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'09-'10 needed more than a spoonful of sugar, felt like a broken glass and battery acid suppository.
Young hockey players, the future, the answer. Learn it, then live it.
Speaking of season tickets
next week I’ll be in Charlotte for some personal business and I’m going to see what seats would be available and see how much it will hit my wallet……but according to the offical web site…it don’t look too bad…Be safe everyone…
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