Hurricanes Acquire Jared Staal
by Bob Wage on May 13, 2010 4:16 PM EDT
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PrintThe Carolina Hurricanes just announced the acquisition of Jared Staal from the Phoenix Coyotes in exchange for a fifth round draft pick in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft. The youngest of the four Staal brothers was originally drafted in the second round by the Coyotes, with the 49th overall pick in the 2008 Draft.
The winger has played four years and 249 games for Sudbury in the OHL. He scored a total of 54 goals and had 99 assists in his four year career. Jim Rutherford had the following to say about the move.
"While Jared has yet to reach his full potential, we believe his upside gives him a chance play at the NHL level in the future," said Rutherford. "This could be an ideal situation for Jared, to continue his development in the same system as his oldest brother, Eric."
Anytime you can acquire a second round pick for a fifth rounder, you can't complain. While Staal is a bit away from playing in the NHL, this move is a good one for Charlotte, who now has another familiar name to market.
Upcoming training camp keeps getting more and more interesting.
((UPDATE:)) The youngest Staal had not been signed yet by Phoenix and will reenter the draft if he does not have a contract by June 1. But obviously, the Canes would not have dealt for him if they didn't think they could sign him.
The fifth round pick used in the deal was obtained from Nashville as compensation for not being able to sign Darcy Hordichuk in 2008. Carolina had originally given Nashville a fifth rounder, (for 2009), for Hordichuk's rights, but in affect had the pick returned, (albeit a year later) when the deal went sour.
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Nice Horse Trading by Phoenix
So, it looks like Phoenix was not planning on signing him to an entry level deal, and the Canes swooped in a made a decent trade. Here’s an odd thing, the pick traded to Phoenix was the conditional pick the Canes got when they were unable to sign Darcy Hordichuk.
I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.
Awesome Move
Jared Staal does have significant potential. I remember reading that Eric Staal thought Jared might ultimately be the best of the brothers. Obviously, Eric’s status as older brother does come into play; but who knows an athlete’s abilities and weaknesses better than the older brothers.
Here’s a link from Hockeys’ Future on Jared Staal.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect/Jared_Staal
Jared may well take some develop to reach his potential; but that is very common with big power forwards. Often they have a somewhat longer learning curve as they grow into their body and develop maturity. I also like the fact that he plays with a physical edge.
Here’s his draft prospect video from NHL.com with EJ McGuire from 2008.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on May 13, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
We took Zac Dalpe instead of him that year, yes? Now we get both. Strange.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on May 13, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Dalpe v. Jared Staal
I had Jared Staal on my list of players I thought were under-rated — which I thought was odd since his brothers were stars. When watching the draft I was positive the Hurricanes would take Jared Staal if he was available. I also had Dalpe as a first round draft choice on my predictions; so I was conflicted. Once the reports started accumulating on Dalpe, I thought the Hurricanes got a steal by getting him in the second round; but I’ve had Jared Staal on my list of players I wanted the Hurricanes to acquire. Now perhaps Jim Rutherford can grab Zac Budish from Nashville, who is also way up on my big, bad power forward list.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=523470
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=523470
An article from www.nhl.com on Jared Staal.
Another Article on Jared Staal
Another interesting article on Jared Staal
http://www.insidehockey.com/columns/3992
I was really surprised Phoenix agreed to trade him and for a 5th round pick.
They've got a ton of young forwards.
It could be as simple as wanting to push back the age clock a little bit to when they might need to replace their current young guys. Draft a 17-year-old kid today and you’ve got a better replacement timeline on your current 24-25 year olds than you would have with 20-year-old Jared.
That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the rafters in Greensboro didn't see any of this coming.
Phoenix's forwards
Just looking at the THN’s Top 50…Phoenix has 2 Forwards and 2 Defensemen in the top 50 alone. Not to mention a wealth of talent in the AHL. this team looks solid for years to come.
CSS Report on Jared Staal
http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail.htm?dpid=43&tab=scr
Central Scouting Report on Jared Staal.
The bottom line it seems to me is that Jared Staal is more of a late bloomer than his brothers; but if he were not a Staal, he would not have been so pressured to be the kind of player who could immediately play on the first line in the NHL at 18 years old. He’s a big, strong, forward with great hands. He has to develop his quickness; but he is athletic and has brothers who know the conditioning it takes to be stars in the NHL. He has the talent in his own right; but just needs to decide he will make the personal sacrifice and the organization will need to help him to develop the patience it takes for a late bloomer to reach his potential. It’s a marathon and not a sprint; and Jared Staal doesn’t need to add additional pressure to himself. Every athlete has his or her own timetable for development.
Sweet Move!!!
I’ve heard Jared doesn’t have the talent or developed as far along as his brothers have but I hear is a pretty physical player. Getting a 6’3" 200 pound right winger with some upside is a great pickup for a fifth-round pick. I like this move a bunch!!!
Can’t go wrong with another Staal. They all got ICE running through their veins. Lets do this!!!
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by Carolyn Christians on May 13, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Great pickup IMO. 5th for rights of a 2nd, not too bad. He seems like he’d do well on a grinding line, and I’d like to see him on Sutter or Dwyer’s wing. Awesome move!
Dreams really do come true
Now if only we could get Marc and Jordan.
I don’t think there should be any trouble at all in signing him to a contract, as I’m sure he’d love to be playing in the same organization as his eldest brother. Who knows, maybe one day we’ll see a top line with Eric and Jared as two out of the three. Certainly not this coming year, though.
Eric Staaly on 99.9 coming up NOW (for those who don’t tweet).
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I’m sure an audio link will be up shortly, but in the meantime here are my cryptic notes:
He just found out early this afternoon. “Pretty neat”. “Pretty cool”.
Growing up it was always the two of them versus the other two brothers in competition.
Scouting report – Big, good vision, more of a disher, I would tell him to pass more, he makes the people around him better, reads the game well, goes to the net hard.
Right now it’s all about the opportunity for him, big summer ahead getting in shape for training camp, no organization better than here to break into the NHL.
Spoke to Jordan a few hours ago. Bummed out, disappointed, shocked. Habs were out-shot and out-chanced but still won. No panic, very comfortable and experienced, good locker room with calming influence.
Out of the ex-Canes, wants to see Ladder get his name on the Cup because he’s Western Conference and a friend.
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by Jamie Kellner on May 13, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Or just listen to the link LOL
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by Jamie Kellner on May 13, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It was painful listening to those idiots pretend they know anything about hockey and Staal’s family. One thought there were 6 Staal boys. I wish they would put the Insiders back on 99.9 in the afternoons.
"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."
I conveniently forgot that part of the interview. I was waiting for Staal to pull out Parker’s name to see if they knew who he was talking about.
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by Jamie Kellner on May 13, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
ice_chip tweets:
Jared Staal: “I’m excited, Obviously this is a good opportunity for me (with Canes) … They treat their young guys well.”
Jared Staal expects to have entry-level contract with Canes signed before June 1. “I think this is the right spot for me.”
And the Canes put up this story with quotes from Jason Karmanos.
"It’s a great family and a very talented family," said Jason Karmanos, the Hurricanes’ Vice President and Assistant General Manager of the Staals. "From our perspective it’s a good fit, and I think playing with Eric will help push Jared and give him a little bit of a comfort level coming in."
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on May 13, 2010 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
I this is an excellent move. Jared may not be the player his brothers are, but he should become a solid 3rd line guy at the least. JR giving up a 5th round pick (which is usually a shot in the dark) makes this deal even more impressive. Jared has the family pedigree and add some size to the Charlotte squad. Nice move!
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by PackPride17 on May 13, 2010 7:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
With two of them laying on the ice waving their arms, the refs will certainly be able to call a penalty….(That was for all the Staal lovers!)
I’m very interested in why Phoenix wasn’t going to sign him and gave him up for a 5th? The real story, I mean. While not going to set any records he was nailing about 13G and 25A a year. Seems to me to be better than a 5th. I am hoping it doesn’t reflect a move by the Phoenix org. I keep hoping they get a deal in place to keep them there. Or! if there is a fire sale, screw Staal get Doan.
Oh well yay for the Charlotte crew and here’s hoping the ’Yotes are gonna be OK in Phoenix. Sad a 13 goal a year guy in the OHL is big news.
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Young hockey players, the future, the answer. Learn it, then live it.
Hey Paladin, look at the bright side (for you at least). You now have another person to focus your frustrations at and you don’t even have to learn a new name.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and JR will acquire the other two boys. Then we can just change the franchise’s name to the Carolina Staals and your blood pressure will shoot through the roof.
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by PackPride17 on May 13, 2010 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yea, you lemme know when we get Jordan.
My frustration revolves around Rod not manning up, not anything a Staal has or has not done.
I hope JR can spell more than Binky 2.0 or Staal when he goes into the draft and the resigning phase. There is a chance to put that shit biscuit of a season he made last year to rest and get a good one going. Instead of looking for more pieces to the Staal collection (BTW, do they count as a crime family?) he needs to score a bonified producer or two and make a nice trim roster.
I don’t believe the hype on JR anymore. I think he’s a drunken sailor who’s been rather lucky. He’s got a chance here to make ol’ Pladin eat more than crow. I expect he keeps Cole, signs Whitney to two and Rod plays. Result? No PO’s again.
We shall see.
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Young hockey players, the future, the answer. Learn it, then live it.
“Pladin” is a drunken sailor, too.
Meant Paladin!
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'09-'10 needed more than a spoonful of sugar, felt like a broken glass and battery acid suppository.
Young hockey players, the future, the answer. Learn it, then live it.
No to Rod. Yes, Cole plays at least until the trade deadline (and either plays well and stays or doesn’t and is traded or doesn’t re-sign); Yes, Whitney is likely to sign a two year deal or two one year deals. Samsonov is traded (probably at the deadline but could be as part of a package deal before the season). Yes, we make the playoffs. Connolly, Niederreiter, or Johansen get drafted. The 2010-2011 Hurricanes demolish some players with hits; and the rotation of young Checkers provides fresh legs and motivated, talented young players.
Paladin6, I think you are going to like what you see in Jared Staal — maybe less polished than Eric and Jordan, but you will like his mean streak. He will demolish some players with hits. He is going to take some patience, but he’ll be worth it; and particularly for those Caniacs who long to see the Hurricanes become a team other teams hate to play.
If JR is truly a great GM, he will find someway of getting rid of Samsonov before the season starts. I know there are a few Sammy fans here (so sorry), but I just don’t see having any place on this team. All he is doing is taking a roster spot from one of the kids @ over $2.5M a season. If JR can find a taker for Sammy, I will extremely impressed.
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by PackPride17 on May 13, 2010 11:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Cole needs to go far before Sammy does. Cole is a huge waste of space, at least Sammy has the ability to make a play every once in a while.
Doug, I am for sure one that wants other teams to rue the date on the schedule our name appears. Even the dead wings of yore gave better effort than what I saw from this team the first 20-30 games last year. I think there is a lot more room now for the finesse guys than when Gretz did it. I also think it’s a very physical game and bashing bodies is an integral part.
I hope Jared pans out, though it appears it won’t be on the immediate horizon. That said who cares? It cost next to nothing and holds more promise than a 5th round ticket. So while the move is about as impressive as watching grass grow for the ’Canes next year, it is a step in a long journey.
Pack I agree, but think there’s alot more moves a “great” GM would/will make for this team. in like the NOW time frame We shall see and we shall hope.
Jussi, amen brother!
It’s going to be an interesting summer, or at least a summer with a flurry of excitement at some point.
I think a very strong case can be made for shedding Rod, Cole and Sammy. Along with a cautious approach to signing Ray. 1 year at a time is what I think it should be, but I am not hopeful it will be that way. His play down the end run, or more precisely after the trade deadline, was rather flacid. Bad blood, fluke, sign of an aging player? Dunno, but how many times do you have to sign a bad contract and/or include a NTC before you learn?
Can’t wait for the next player headline!
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Young hockey players, the future, the answer. Learn it, then live it.
Jared Staal Videos
Here are some videos I have been able to locate thus far:
Fight video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ZAUX6WKJo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OMfijazFQ8&feature=related
Scouting Report 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdXWNvT49N0
Miscellaneous:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYocsvkG9ks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxG3hHmjqKg&feature=related
Game video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zAkg25oaKs
Oh...
I thought “Pladin” was Paladin but wearing cloth with vertical and horizontal stripes.
Oh, wait, that’s “Plaidin.”
by Raccoon Fink on May 13, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
My wife texted me at work and said the Canes traded for Jordan Staal. After pooping myself, I went to CC and found out it was Jared. (Who did we trade? What line will he be on? Jesus God, we got Jordan Staal!!)
The 4th of 4 boys is going to have motivation problems. However, it seems the Staal family raises good young men and maybe Jared just needs a little time to mature. Well played, JR, well played.
Motivation and Youngest Kid
Gillimus, I have been following Jared since the time he was draft eligible. I had assumed he would be drafted by the Hurricanes because he was felt to be a player with a lot of upper end talent. The NHL scouts keep saying that Jared Staal needed to be examined as a player without reference to his brothers and that it was going to take Jared Staal a little more time to develop to his potential because he was a little less mature physically than his brothers at the same age. In other words, Jared Staal was somewhat of a later bloomer relative to Eric, Marc, and Jordan.
I am the father of four sons — all of whom played and play competitive sports. The youngest child has a hard time because he is treated as a peer of the kids, but he is seldom as big or as strong as his brothers. On the other hand, my observation with the youngest child is that when the light bulb goes on, there is much more there athletically because he has had to learn how to adapt to bigger, stronger, faster brothers/players.
As it relates to Jared Staal, my impression is that he may well take a little more nurturing and a little more patience, but he will be well worth the effort as a player. Paladin6 is going to like the way Jared Staal brings a physical edge to the game. Also, the fact that Jared Staal may have been a little behind his brothers in terms of weight training and what coaches tend to call motivation really means that he has the most room left for growth as long as he dedicates himself to the task of becoming the best NHL player he can be. With Eric Staal being captain of the team and a proud man, I will be shocked if Jared Staal doesn’t come to camp in remarkably good shape, both in terms of strength, but also in terms of endurance. It was a great move by Jim Rutherford on a number of different levels.
I’m not sure Eric needs another person to take care of. But maybe this will all be good. I can imagine it as a disaster if it doesn’t. Does the name Kostitsyn suggest one possible scenario? Hope I’m wrong.
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by Carolyn Christians on May 13, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Risk/Reward Ratio
Given the fact that the Staals were raised by a talented college hockey player to be NHL players and given their character as people, I don’t have deep concern of a flame out scenario. I remember the Alou brothers for the Atlanta Braves, for example. Anything is possible, including a Kostitsyn scenario; but in the end, the Risk/Reward ratio was too high to turn down. Jared has plenty of potential. He has been well-coached. As a younger player he didn’t have the maturity to prepare for the season the way he probably should have, if many of the reports are accurate. In the end, the matter of importance will Jared Staal dedicate himself the way that it takes to be successful in the NHL? If so, the Hurricanes will have gotten an amazing player essentially for free. In fact, if it works, it will add synergy to the team as a whole. I am looking forward to training camp. If Jared Staal comes into camp ready to bust chops and in mid-season shape, I’ll be fairly confident he has turned a personal corner. If he comes into camp in average shape, it is more likely he will have a longer road to the NHL than any of his brothers. He clearly knows how to get in shape, so it is all in his court now.
I agree we got him for basically free… No matter how he turns out, it will not be a loss.
I know he was Drafted much higher than he deserved simply due to his name, but it is very surprising to me that his value today was only a 5th Round Pick…. Is a long way to fall from the 2nd to 5th round in 2 years.
Or maybe he’s the runt of the litter and is overrated because of his last name. Of course you’re going to tell me that he’s a late bloomer and that may be the case, so we’ll have to wait and see. At least we didn’t give up much for him.
Runt of the Litter or Late Bloomer
As between the two opposite poles – overrated and under talented brother living off his brothers’ names or very talented, but late developing prospect with significant potential, only time will tell. I think if Jared Staal’s name were Joe Smith and he had never heard of the Staal family, he would be well-worth trading a 5th round draft pick. I had Jared Staal on my own list of power forwards with potential based on his ability and size. The fact he was a Staal didn’t add much to my evaluation. He seemed to be a player who could become a Ryan Malone type of power forward with some work and patience on the part of an organization. You, however, could be correct; and it is almost certainly going to take two years or more to know one way or the other. I do know he drops his gloves and fights; and that he is a scrappy around the net; and at 6’3" and 200 lbs at age 19 he is going to be able to carry at least 220 lbs on his frame. Given the fact he has received excellent coaching all his life, his fundamentals are surely sound. Is there another equally talented prospect that is available for a 5th round pick? If so, I would make that trade every time.
Agreed. I want to make 1 comment about your list: I can appreciate the time & effort it took to put together the list and that’s worth commending in itself, however I think a shorter list next time would have more value with narrower parameters, some of the guys on your list I wouldn’t classify as power forwards and some of guys on the list are probably at the end of their NHL career. I would say power forards with potential younger than 22 that are above 6’1 or whatever. Otherwise it’s like predicting you can hit the bullseye with throwing a million darts.
That’s a very valid criticism. I will re-post a list with narrower constraints. If I can offer a slight defense, at the time I started the list I was desperate for the Hurricanes to bring virtually any potential power forward into the system and team. With Tlusty and Osala, and now Jared Staal, I am far less in a state of mental anguish over the absence of power forwards.
There are essentially three kinds of players called power forwards; but they play different kinds of games. There is the Ryan Malone kind of player and then the Peter Mueller kind of player. A third player would be Ovechkin and Malkin kind of players — huge in size but also amazingly fast and skilled. Unless there is a huge storm of protest before I begin, I will combine the list to include hybrid power forwards like Tlusty and Mueller as well as the Ryan Malone type of forward. I will limit the ages to something like 25 or 26 depending on the length of the list; and with a minimum height of 6’1" (although Tlusty at 6’ 209 lbs is a hybrid power forward just as Ruutu at 6’ 205 lbs is a hybrid power forward). With the talent in Charlotte and on the team, and in the minors (Lindstrom), it makes sense to limit the search. I’ll do a separate post for potential draft choices. I can’t promise the post immediately; but will get to work.
Can I just say… WOOOOOOO!
OK, I’ll go back to crying in my beer now…
;)
I can't handle... this team.
by Andrea's evil twin on May 13, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
over at TSN.ca
I was scanning the comments to their report on this deal. Not sure if the following comment is factual, but I’m posting it since it seems credible:
i remember going to school in thunder bay while jared was playing for the thunder bay kings minor hockey system… he was by far the best player on the ice and there was a whole bunch of people at the time who felt that he had the most raw talent of all 4 staals, but the one thing holding him back is his desire to play at the highest level and be the best he can be, also his work ethic has been called into question in the past… i hope that by shadowing eric it will help him reach his full potential…if so this could be a steal for the canes, if not hes just another brent gretzky
There are a ton of comments on this up there. Most not worth bothering with, but still interesting to see a mostly Canadian view.
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on May 13, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Jared Staal's Talent
I have read quite a few times and by different commentators and sources that Jared Staal is extremely talented in terms of his physical skills. The fact that a 16 year old or a 17 year old might not be as dedicated as he needs to be is not really a shock. I also keep reading that Jared plays the most physical game of the four brothers. It is a great story; and my gut reaction continues to be that Jared Staal will be a steal for the Hurricanes. He’ll grow up quickly under the guidance of Eric Staal and the coaching staff; and ultimately Jared Staal will be an motivator for Eric Staal to be the hardest worker on the ice every game.
I wouldn't get too excited just yet. Staal may never see a Canes or Checkers jersey.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this is one of JR’s package future trade deals with Staal and one of our veterans that’s already in the works, but can’t show it’s head until July 1st. Has anyone asked themselves why would a team give up a promising 2nd round draft pick player with the name ‘Staal’ for a no name shot in the dark 5th round draft pick and nothing else? I’m thinking this is a 3 team trade deal in the works that will involve Phoenix along with another team. If that’s the case then we should still end up with a good player, hopefully a veteran defenseman.
Just saying…
It would be extremely bad karma to trade Jared without giving him the chance
c59, you could well be right, but it seems like extremely bad karma to obtain Eric Staal’s youngest brother and then trade him without giving Jared a chance to produce. As to why the Coyotes made the trade, they were not going to be able to sign him to a contract, so they would have gotten nothing for him. The Hurricanes got the rights to sign Jared Staal before June 1st.
I am not concerned that the Coyotes couldn’t help Jared develop. The Coyotes have a very specific way of treating their players. Mueller fell out of favor; but he is one of the best prospects I’ve seen as a big, fast forward. They traded Mueller for Wolski of the Cavs and Mueller was very impressive for the Cavs. Jared Staal has tons of potential; but he is also a much longer term prospect at this point than any of his brothers. It is probably more common for big power forwards to take several years to fully develop than for them to go immediately for juniors to being an All-Star. Jordan Staal is the exception and not the rule in that respect.
I am very pleased that Jim Rutherford and Jason Karmanos are adding players like Jared Staal into the system, even if some will take a year or two longer to mature and develop. I think we will have Jared Staal on the Hurricanes by 2013-2014, if not by 2012-2013; but he has too much inherent talent and too much in the way of genes and family support not to eventually reach his potential. All he needs is some time, patience, and then to fully dedicate himself to hockey.
TYPO: thinking AVS fingers typed CAVS
c59, you could well be right, but it seems like extremely bad karma to obtain Eric Staal’s youngest brother and then trade him without giving Jared a chance to produce. As to why the Coyotes made the trade, they were not going to be able to sign him to a contract, so they would have gotten nothing for him. The Hurricanes got the rights to sign Jared Staal before June 1st.
I am not concerned that the Coyotes couldn’t help Jared develop. The Coyotes have a very specific way of treating their players. Mueller fell out of favor; but he is one of the best prospects I’ve seen as a big, fast forward. They traded Mueller for Wolski of the Avs and Mueller was very impressive for the Avs. Jared Staal has tons of potential; but he is also a much longer term prospect at this point than any of his brothers. It is probably more common for big power forwards to take several years to fully develop than for them to go immediately for juniors to being an All-Star. Jordan Staal is the exception and not the rule in that respect.
I am very pleased that Jim Rutherford and Jason Karmanos are adding players like Jared Staal into the system, even if some will take a year or two longer to mature and develop. I think we will have Jared Staal on the Hurricanes by 2013-2014, if not by 2012-2013; but he has too much inherent talent and too much in the way of genes and family support not to eventually reach his potential. All he needs is some time, patience, and then to fully dedicate himself to hockey.
I first heard of this just about 8 hours ago…and I like others whom are well pleased to have jared ( IF & When he was to sign…) the likes of Jeff Daniels will get him inti playing trim …if not, the florida everblades will or could get the task…my grandmother arned me about getting something for nothing…but like anything we shall see in time won’t we ??
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The pick we dealt to Nashville for the rights to negotiate with Hordichuk was dealt to Tampa and turned in to Micheal Zador. All in all, a definite upgrade and solid piece for the Canes future.
So – there speculating on Parise’s future in NJ and Malkin’s future with the Pens. Add in Kovalchuk and the UFA market may be overflowing with some top line talent. It’s a salary cap world, isn’t it? The Kings are supposedly shopping. But who/where else?
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by Carolyn Christians on May 14, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions
So they’re speculating…. (more coffee)
Olympian Tim Gleason in Vancouver: "I don’t care what anybody says, to watch an exciting hockey game, there’s nothing like it."
by Carolyn Christians on May 14, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Nathan Horton Also Mentioned as Trade Bait
Nathan Horton is also on the list of players considered trade bait.
Now, if Jordan Staal falls into that list of players whom the Pens decide they have to trade that would be fantastic. I can’t see the Pens trading Malkin and keeping Staal.
I actually think the Pens will go the other way. What they pay Malkin (8.7 million) could almost bring in a line by itself, or at the least bring in a guy like Cullen and some upgraded wings. Jordan is too affordable to move and the Pens need more depth.
I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.
Why? Malkin makes 8.7 vs Staal’s 4 and if you trade Malkin to the Western conference and get back a roster player, a prospect and a high #1 pick it might make sense. That type of trade is tough to get out from under because Malkin’s one of the best players in the game. For what Staal brings he’s a lot easier to stomach than Malkin, I don’t that I would make that trade if I were the GM, but depending on the return it can be justified.
If Shero Makes that Deal o Trade Malkin, He has to Submit his Resignation at the Same Time
The Pens fans would revolt at that deal to trade Malkin and Shero might as well submit his resignation. A GM doesn’t last long trading away one of the top three players in the NHL where he has the player on a long-term contract. I can’t see that happening. Fans would be upset, but could live with Jordan Staal being traded. They would burn Shero in effigy if he traded Malkin or Crosby.
That would piss off a huge part of their fan base no doubt. There’s a couple of things we don’t know that could eventually prompt a trade: how Malkin feels about playing behind Crosby (on most teams Malkin’s the man) and how the relationship is between Crosby & Malkin – you have to root out cancerous relationships as soon as they arise.
Malkin isn’t the only top three player in the NHL on the team. Crosby is significantly more important to the team, the franchise, and to winning. Trading Malkin frees up so much space for a top flight winger. That will make Pittsburgh significantly more difficult to play against.
Trading Staal doesn’t get the Pens to where they need to be in a salary cap league. Freeing up only $4 million gets Crosby only a slight improvement over Bill Guerrin next year. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if Bill Guerrin can score 21 goals on Crosby’s line, what can Whitney do? If you imagine what Whitney can do imagine what a young good winger can do. Put someone with talent, not even first rate talent, but a solid B+ player, on Crosby’s wing and that player will score 35+ goals.
Pens fans will only revolt if Pittsburgh loses. The team can trade Malkin and still win. I’m not sure it can trade Jordan and still do that.
I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.
A GM does what a GM must do…improve the team.
Malkin goes and Staal stays. That $8.7M will go far in fixing what ails them and Staal goes to the second line, which is where he belongs.
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