Jiri Tlusty Gets One-Way Deal
by Bob Wage on May 28, 2010 10:30 AM EDT
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Expect to see Jiri Tlusty in Raleigh more often next season as the Carolina Hurricanes just signed him to a one year, one-way contract for $500,000. The Hurricanes acquired the winger from the Toronto Maple Leafs last season in exchange for Philippe Paradis, the Canes' first round pick in 2009.
Tlusty battled injuries last year, but has scored 49 goals and has 69 assists for a total of 118 career points in 125 AHL games for the Toronto Marlies and Albany River Rats. He had 30 points in 39 games last season.
Apparently, Jim Rutherford feels that the Czech native is ready for the NHL.
"Jiri a smart and skilled player who can play in all situations," said Rutherford. "He played well with the Hurricanes last year, and is ready to become an everyday NHL player."
The Maple Leafs drafted Tlusty in the first round in 2006, (13th overall).
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Interesting! He’ll be cheaper than last year (at the NHL level). I’m wondering where he’ll be placed, 3rd line or 4th line?
I await the comments of AD! :)
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by Carolyn Christians on May 28, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
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I am not at all surprised. The Hurricanes organization really is impressed with Tlusty. To me it is the first step in bringing the young, talented forwards onto the roster. I think Brind’Amour will retire and that Samsonov will be traded.
Yes!!!
He seemed to fly under the radar as compared to Boychuk, Bowman, Samson and Dalpe but I thought all last year he was ready if he could stay healthy. I think he’s going to be a solid player for us years to come – not spectacular but very solid.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.
He very well have
flied under the radar because he was injuried…after all you can’t see a player on the ice…if he aint there right ? And to the fact that he is now a Cane…it will be great to see him out there battling for the puck and scoring goals !! have a good afternoon folks…and don’t forget to thank a vet for the freedoms we all have & enjoy…
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Good Call...
Should bode well for our 3rd/4th line. I hope he has a breakout year to establish himself as an NHL regular. Not sure if he has the size that Rutherford wants but hopefully his play will cement him in our lineup. If not, a good chip to have in the game.
He seemed like a solid player in the NHL last season (the few times he played). Speedy guy with some scoring touch. He’d be good with a speedy center like Sutter, but not sure Tlusty’ll make the 2nd line.
Does this mean there is a roster move to report?
Not to get too far ahead, but does this mean some one has/will be traded? I believe there is a roster freeze until after the finals.
Does this mean Ray Whitney is not coming back? It would free up a spot without trading someone.
Does this guarantee he’ll be in Raleigh all -season? The money isn’t too high for other teams to place him in the minors, but it is likely too much for the Canes to place him there.
I’m a bit surprised it’s a one-way deal, especially on a one-year contract, but good for Jiri all the same.
I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.
To answer one of your questions, this does not guarantee him a spot in Raleigh next year. He can still be assigned to the AHL, even with a one-way contract. Case in point, Tim Conboy last year. But obviously, that’s not the plan. It’s an expensive way to go when that happens.
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Does that mean he would have to be put on waivers to go back and forth?
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I think contract status (one-way versus two-way) is purely financial.
Age and tenure drive the waiver status, regardless of the type of contract.
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by Jamie Kellner on May 28, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
For example, Jay Harrison (27) was on a two-way contract last year but was subject to waivers when he was sent down to Albany at the end of the season.
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by Jamie Kellner on May 28, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Waivers 101
I think that he is indeed subject to waivers if he is sent down to the AHL.
Source of this belief is this cheat sheet as to everything you would want to know (and then some!) about waivers.
From the chart provided there as to who is exempt, Jiri, at age 22, more than 3 years from his initial contract, and with more than 70 games in the NHL (source) would not be exempt.
He signed his entry-level deal at age 18, not 22.
by Cory Lavalette on May 28, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, agreed. But, he’s 22 now, so more than three years have elapsed since that signing.
Although the table says “5 years” for an 18-year-old, note that the footnote converts that to “3 years” for skaters (not goalies) if they play 11 games in the NHL while 18 or 19.
He’s shown as playing 58 games for the Leafs during ‘06’-’07, when he was 18/19, so three years is his exemption.
At least that’s my take.
Also, I thought this was one of the things that drove the trade from the Leafs side. They couldn’t send him down without losing him for nothing.
I think you’re right … here’s Tlusty’s exact example (if you just accelerate it by a year) from the CBA:
(b) An 18 year old drafted in the ’05 Entry Draft who does not sign an SPC until July 2006 at the age of 19, and plays eleven (11) NHL Games in the 2006-07 season, will be exempt as follows:
Season Regular — Waivers/Re-Entry Waivers
05-06 — n/a
06-07 — Exempt
07-08 — Exempt
08-09 — Exempt
09-10 — Eligible
by Cory Lavalette on May 28, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
actually … that’s not right either b/c he was signed right after being drafted (2006).
by Cory Lavalette on May 28, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He wasn’t waiver-eligible last season, was he?
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by Jamie Kellner on May 28, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
no … he did not have to go thru waivers last year.
by Cory Lavalette on May 28, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, their example is essentially his case, except he was signed in July 2006, right after being drafted.
Didn’t play in the NHL that season (‘06-’07) while 18/19, but did play 58 games in ’07-
08) while 19/20.
So, since mathematically he would have to have played 11 of those 58 games before turning 20 in March 2009 for a season that ended the following month, he loses waiver exemption three years after signing his contract.
That would be July 2009, so he should have been subject to waivers all of the ‘09-’10 season, as well.
I’m pretty sure this was a factor in the Leafs minds as they were clearing salary budget to make some changes last year.
No … he gets three years exempt, the first being the season he first plays 11 in.
2007-08- exempt
2008-09 – exempt
2009-10 – exempt
2010-11 – eligible
by Cory Lavalette on May 28, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like the one way deal here is to avoid waivers then. That’s probably why he gets the pay cut at the nhl.
I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.
by C-Leaguer on May 28, 2010 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
One-way vs. two-way deal doesn’t really impact waivers. All that means is they get a different amount of money (and cap hit) depending on where they are.
by Cory Lavalette on May 28, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve followed Jiri since his draft year … he could be a poor man’s Justin Williams/Jere Lehtinen. I’m not going to say he’ll score 30 like those two or win multiple Selkes like Lehtinen, but I think he could be like those guys in that he is able to contribute at both ends of the ice and also have the ability to be the best guy on the ice certain nights.
by Cory Lavalette on May 28, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
I somewhat agree. I think he is a solid two-way player. I don’t think he’ll light the lamp as much as some others, maybe a 15 to 20 goals per season guy. I actually think he’ll take on Chad LaRose’s role with the Canes. Someone that plays on the 3rd or 4th line, can kill penalties, and fill in other spots depending on injuries.
Or at $500K for only 1 year, he could be used as a low risk, high reward trading chip.
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by PackPride17 on May 28, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I will see him (and the trade) as a huge failure if he’s not at least a second/third-line guy. if he’s on the fourth line next year or long term, it will be a disappointment.
by Cory Lavalette on May 28, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he could be a 3rd line guy, but I’m not confident he is a 2nd line winger. Of course I also thought that Paradis was taken way too high. Both players could prove me wrong, I guess I’ll find out one day.
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by PackPride17 on May 28, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too … the Paradis thing is still baffling to me: the drafting, the trading … the whole thing.
by Cory Lavalette on May 28, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you on the whole Paradis episode. Had to trust that they were seeing more than we were with that move, but it was a certainly a puzzler.
I’m willing to give them a pass, since the most recent drafts have been so successful. Hope we chalked that one up under live-and-learn if we were having second thoughts on the pick and at least we converted the asset into a more immediate one via the trade for Tlusty.
All-in-all, even if the draft pick/trade asset turns into a soon-to-be-lost vet like Patrick Sharp, as in PackPride17’s hypothetical trade scenarios, the wealth of the org is sound because of all the draft picks that came from the UFA fire sale last season.
When you try and hit home runs you occaisionally strike out. It happens. The fact that it turned in to tlusty makes me okay with it.
I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.
by C-Leaguer on May 28, 2010 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have followed Tlusty for a shorter time than Cory, but he has been on my list of potential power forward and hybrid power forwards for some time before the Canes traded for him. He has far more upside than some people think. He has excellent speed and hands and is not afraid to hit. I like the fact he is on a one-way. I think the Hurricanes intend to keep Tlusty for a long time.
Just saw the tweet that Jay Harrison has been signed to the same deal. One-year, one-way, $500k.
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I’m a fan of Tlusty (aka NB). But my first thought was why one-way? Not that a roster spot is guaranteed, but there’s no financial benefit to the team to do anything but keep him up with the big squad. But why not make him fight for a roster spot in training camp?
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BTW Bob/Cory/whoever tweeted the Tlusty news… thanks for mentioning it being one-way in the tweet, CC was the only one that did (important to someone out and about with just quick access to tweets/texts and nothing else).
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by Jamie Kellner on May 28, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
See I am with you, why one way. Why one way on Harrison? I think we are going to see largely the same team that ended the year back next year, with little change. And I think we will also see the Canes play end at roughly the same time it did last year in a very similar fashion. You know how we roll, 1 year in the playoffs, two years out.
by wylde4canes on May 28, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hurray!
Harrison too!!! Awesome….more players from Mo’s failed attempt at Toronto.
Great.
Tlusty and Lines for Next Season
With Tlusty having a one way contract, I believe the coaches and staff intend to have him play at Carolina this season. Here are some line combinations to ponder.
Jokinen/Staal/Ruutu
Whitney/Sutter/Cole
Boychuk/Tlusty/LaRose
Samson/Dwyer/ Kostopoulos
Jokinen/Staal/Ruutu
Whitney/Sutter/Cole
LaRose/Boychuk/Tlusty
Samson/Dwyer/ Kostopoulos
Jokinen/Staal/Ruutu
Whitney/Sutter/Cole
Boychuk/Dwyer/Tlusty
LaRose/Samson/Kostopoulos
The way things are starting, here is how the lines might look next season. Of course, this is after JR makes some trades and free agent signings. He did make some difficult trades, but we received multiple 6th & 7th round picks in return.
Old man with walker / Staal / Jokinen
11 year old girl / Sutter / sack of potatoes
LaRose / Blow-up doll / Cole
Samsonov / Tlusty / Stormy
Pitkanen / Gleason
McBain / Two-headed chicken
Harrison / My auto mechanic
Ward / That blind guy outside the library asking for change
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JR’s comments on his new additions after the 1st game of next year.
“Old Man Horace really had difficulty get on & off the ice, he needs to work on his flexibility. Little girl Lucy skated well, but showed no toughness. Sack of Potatoes is tough, it will stand up to anybody in the league. Blow-up Doll Barbie was horrible; not winning one faceoff and she seemed deflated after a few shifts. She really needs to work on her conditioing. Stormy was a beast, blocking a ton of shots and it didn’t seem like they fazed him at all. Clucky the chicken is what this franchise needs; a high energy defenseman. He was all over the ice and very entertaining to watch. And Mel the mechanic was solid all night; he wasn’t afraid of getting his hands dirty. Overall, there are some things to work on, but we have a solid group.”
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by PackPride17 on May 28, 2010 8:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Since I don’t see Ruutu on your lines I’m assuming your refering to Ruu as an old man. Freakin out a little bit aren’t ya. The team will pretty much look like we did near the end of the season…..when we were winning.
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No, Ruutu was traded for the sack of potatoes.
I’m obviously joking, but I feel that this team needs to improve not stand pat with the same lineup. We pretty much stayed the same last year from 08/09 and got off to our typical bad start. We have the cap room to improve without maxing out, let do something. Tlusty is not a bad move, but signing Harrison to a one-way deal is stupid unless he is going to be the 7th defenseman and was signed cheap just to fill out the roster number requirement.
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by PackPride17 on May 28, 2010 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He has earned a shot~ More important things to worry about.
At long last it seems the Hurricanes are pulling a similar move to the Carolina Panthers forgive me for my footbal reference but never the less everyone must be happy to see more young guns coming to Raleigh for the upcoming season and plenty of depth at the AHL level as well.
Personally instead of wingers/defensemen/draft I am more interested to see what happens with the backup goalie situation ? I read the blog post on here a couple of days ago and while Legace did play nicely for Cam Ward last season I would prefer to have Justin Peters take the job as our full time backup goalie next season. Manny is older and if he wants to go to Russia let him walk. Peters has earned the job in my book and with M. Murphy and J. Pogge in the minors you have to like our AHL goalie situation which is way improved over a year ago especially if Mike Murphy can get healthy once more.
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on May 29, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
I’m with you on Peters, but we might be in the minority. I would like to see Peters as the backup and actually get a chance to play. I think Cam needs to be limited to about 55 games to possibly help his back and also keep him rested for the playoffs (if we make it). I think Peters would fill in admirable with 25 games of action.
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by PackPride17 on May 29, 2010 11:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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