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LOS ANGELES, CA - JUNE 25:  Jeff Skinner, drafted seventh overall by the Carolina Hurricanes, poses on stage with team personnel during the 2010 NHL Entry Draft at Staples Center on June 25, 2010 in Los Angeles, California.  (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

Los Angeles, CA. The Carolina Hurricanes got their man in Jeff Skinner, who has already been compared to Zach Parise in some circles.  Not only does he have the skill to score, he has the relentless desire to succeed which should bode well for his future in the NHL. 

While he is a bit short of stature at 5'10, he is already built well at 190 pounds and has excellent lower body strength.  No matter his size, it's not easy these days to score 50 goals in the regular season in the OHL, then another 20 goals in 20 playoff games in the postseason.  That's right, he scored 70 goals in total this year, something even Taylor Hall and Tyler Seguin did not do.

The night almost turned into a bonanza for the Canes as two defensemen they coveted, Cam Fowler and Brandon Gormley, were left unclaimed after the Hurricanes made their pick at seven.  Jim Rutherford said that he attempted to trade all three of the team's second round picks so he could grab one of those talented blueliners, but he was unable to make a deal.

What a sweet first round that would have been, Jeff Skinner and say, Brandon Gormley in the same draft?  But it was not meant to be.  Instead, the Canes will stick to the plan and use all three second rounders, two third rounders, and their remaining picks on Saturday, to try to find a gem.  And make no bones about it, there are still gems available.

Who is left that could be good?  Take a gander after the jump:

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Rutherford said that he would like to grab a couple of defensemen in the second round.  On the top of his list should be Jonathan Merrill, a USHL product who was ranked 11th overall by the ISS.  That placed him higher than other previously picked defensemen, Mark Pysyk, Jarred Tinordi, and Dylan McIlrath. The ISS says that Merrill, who is 6'3, is good enough to play in the NHL with "minor development" and has potential to be Norris Trophy candidate material.  

The best of the rest on defense?

  • Matt McKenzie 6'1 Calgary Hitmen, consistent, solid, compared to Marc Staal
  • Patrik Nemeth 6'3 Sweden, strong on skates, physical defender who dominates the wall
  • Stephen Johns 6'3 USHL, Big, hulking defensemen who can move the puck.  Good character guy who should have top four potential in NHL. Compares to Keith Seabrook.
  • Alex Petrovic 6'4 Red Deer Rebels, Dynamic, aggressive, raw offensive minded defender who is compared to Dion Phaneuf.  Always finishes his checks but sometimes over-commits. 

There are also some great possibilities at forward if the Canes want to stack up even more on offense.  Tyler Pitlick, who the ISS has at 20th overall, is still available.  He is listed as a power forward with a lot of upside.    Also, the Canes might want to consider Brad Ross, the left winger who was the grit behind the Niedereitter and Johansen line.  The ISS has him at #35.  Other notable forwards include:

  • Jason Zucker, 5'10 LW from the USHL is described as one of the most complete two-way players in the draft.  He's a highly skilled forward who works hard and is an "ultra competitive winner". 
  • Ludvig Rensfeldt, 6'3 Swede who has a great shot and has been compared to Johan Franzen
  • Tyler Toffoli, 6'0 good goal scorer but needs work on skating
  • Teemu Pulkkinen 5'11, Sharp-shooting Finn who has passion for game and creativity on offense, but needs work in his own end.  One scout says, "not only can he score, he can also hit".  Sound like anyone else you know?

Don't forget, there are also a couple of wild card players out there who have enough talent to be superstars, but they have lacked maturity up to this point.  Loose cannon Kirill Kabanov, a Russian who has burned bridges on both sides of the Atlantic, is a talent that could be the a team's "offensive centerpiece". 

John McFarland was once considered a top Canadian prospect.  His skill level and skating ability is top notch, but his commitment and character is in question.

There are plenty of great players still out there, it's just a matter of finding them.  Saturday's selections might be more important than opening day's and could make or break the future success of a franchise.  We will be watching how the Hurricanes do.

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Exciting Times!

Although I was initially very shocked/disappointed/disheartened that the Canes passed on Fowler and Gormley, I quickly came to my senses that Skinner and his goal scoring ability may very well be what the dynamo that the Canes need in the long run.

As people have been demanding for a while, Skinner may very well turn out to be the other 1st line talent that we need to accompany Staal. Even if he only makes the 2nd line, itll at least take some of the pressure off Staal.

Its obviously disappointing that the other teams were not interested in JR’s offers in order to get Fowler/Gormley but as Bob lists, there are still plenty of good D left for us to get in the next rounds. Here’s hoping for Merrill!

I, for one, am very excited for who we might pick next and to see how quickly we will be saying these players play for the big team =D

by webbo26 on Jun 26, 2010 6:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind too terribly much if the Canes could jump up a few spots from #35 to say #31 or #32 to get Merril if it’s at the expense of one of the third rounders, preferably #85 and not # 67. Given that it cost the Islnaders #58 to move up from #35 to #30 though, I’m not holding my breath. It would be very nice though to get Merril in a Hurricanes sweater. He’s not Gormley or Fowler, but he’s not a huge step down.

I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.

by C-Leaguer on Jun 26, 2010 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Eleven teams passed on Fowler and Gormley before either was selected. Will be very interesting to see why that happened.

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by Jamie Kellner on Jun 26, 2010 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

be safe out there

and watch out for those “other” sports fans out there as when they get on the roads…they forget the fundimentals…getting out of your way !!! stay cool…

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by CaniacSteve on Jun 26, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m definitely not disappointed with the Skinner pick, like everybody else I was hoping they’d pick up Fowler or Gormley, but instead JR and Co. addressed another important need, secondary scoring. Nobody on the squad outside of Staal can be expected to contribute 30 goals year in and year out, and seeing as how 30-40 goal scorers aren’t cheap to come by in free agency/trade market, the best way to get one on the cheap is through the draft.

by Kubota on Jun 26, 2010 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Surprised but excited about Skinner, just wasn’t sure if I should get attached to him. And I did also find it interesting that Fowler and Gormley did not go as high as they did …I really don’t doubt JR too much. If we knew 1/2 of what he did we would be getting paid the big bucks – I would just love to know the reason! Oh well we will see what happens today

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by danicanes on Jun 26, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Wondering why no one compares him to Patrick Kane? Size, scoring flair… I like the Parise comparisons, but I think or Parise as a bigger guy.

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by Carolyn Christians on Jun 26, 2010 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

think of Parise

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by Carolyn Christians on Jun 26, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Parise is only listed as 5’11" 190. Almost the same size as Skinner. They always comment that Parise is deceptively strong though so that may be what’s got you thinking of him as bigger.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 26, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kane is about 15 pounds lighter than Parise and/or Skinner. I think that’s probably why the comparisons lean toward Parise.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 26, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Skinner and Parise versus Kane comparison

Kane was always a total burner as a scorer. Parise is fast, but he is more a player who gives 150% each shift and is able to use all his skills to bear. Skinner has to work on his speed and surprisingly, his skating; but he has an amazing shot and have a tremendous will to win. Skinner also is a player who is at his best in money time. He wants the puck and he wills his team to win.

by abramsdoug on Jun 26, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Skinner is more Parise than Kane. Kane is a good player, but only plays on one side of the ice. Parise, for his small stature, really plays in the dirty areas. Every goal I remember him scoring is within 5’ of the net. I know this sounds weird, but I think Parise is more of a scorer and Kane is more of a shooter.

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by PackPride17 on Jun 27, 2010 1:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Parise and the Will to Score

  I realize some people don’t like Parise, but to me he is the kind of player upon whom one can build a team. If Skinner is like Parise in terms of never giving up on a play and playing big in the tough ice, I would be very excited. Although I like having some big bodied forwards, the low center of gravity, determined, highly skilled forwards can also dominate. Crosby, Richards, Parise, Zetterberg, and Datsyuk all have very similar “hockey builds” as Skinner. Skinner does not yet have Crosby’s acceleration, but it seems that skating skill is often the last skill the elite players develop. So if Skinner becomes the Hurricanes version of Parise and/or Richards, the Hurricanes will be in great shape for the future.

by abramsdoug on Jun 27, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who in the hell doesn’t like Parise? I know he is on an opponent, but the kid has skill, work ethic, and the willingness to do anything for his team. Parise is my second favorite NHL player and would love to have him on the Canes. If anybody doesn’t like him, it can only be because of the team he plays for. If Skinner can be 3/4 of what Parise is, we have ourselves a hell of a player.

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by PackPride17 on Jun 27, 2010 11:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree 100 million percent with PackPride. See people? It was bound to happen sometime.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 27, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you coming over to the dark side? I know its so tempting. Next thing you’ll know; you’ll be wearing a Staal sweater to a Canes game. :)

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by PackPride17 on Jun 27, 2010 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You’ll notice that no where in your post that I agreed with was the word “Staal”. :D

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 27, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

100% would have covered his post. 100 million includes the entirety of the post and his wider opinions not even barely implied by it. ;)

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by Raccoon Fink on Jun 27, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

After letting the Skinner pick settle overnight, its not that bad of a pick. It was surprising, like a lot of picks last night. I just think we really missed out on a special defenseman and two fell right to us.

I think Anaheim had a great night getting arguably 2 top 15 prospects at #12 and #29.

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by PackPride17 on Jun 26, 2010 10:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah, Anaheim and Florida were the big winners on Friday, other than Boston and Edmonton of course.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jun 26, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy w/Skinner and lot's of opportunity still

Skinner, in the end, will become a scoring machine for us….and that is definitely what we needed. Very, very happy w/this pick.

The opportunities still remaining are excellent:

On defense -

Merrill
Faulk
Petrovic
Alt
Johns

Offensively, lot’s of raw, but high end potential:

Kabanov
Pitlick
Toffoli
Rensfeldt
Pulkkinen
Straka
Ross
Culek
McKegg
Donskoi

I mean that’s a lot of moderately known talent….we’ve got a warm spot in the proverbial driver’s seat. I’d go big w/ the likes of Petrovic and Rensfeldt. I love McKegg (goal scorer) and then there’s wildcards like Weal, Knight, and Gardiner still there. With that mix of talent still left and 5 picks for the Canes we really can’t go too wrong…heck, think about Pulkkinen….he’s a natural scorer as well. Caniacs, we are in good shape going into the 2nd round!!!

by NotOpie on Jun 26, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Other thoughts

FLA – got a whole lot bigger; they are going to be a beast in 2 or 3 years…..

ANA – ratcheted up goal scoring w/two simple picks – Fowler and Etem…

I’d say those two teams have the early “lead” in the draft….

by NotOpie on Jun 26, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

while I too

was " shocked’ that the Canes took a player like Skinner…and after a decent nights rest…JR was looking at the long term here…and like with other canes draft picks…if he doesn’t work out…they can always jettison him…but i think he will have a good and sucessful future with the canes…

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by CaniacSteve on Jun 26, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Anyone know what time Rnd 2 starts and if there’s a vid feed?

by Caniac1026 on Jun 26, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

starts at 1 eastern, it’s on the NHL network but not sure about video feed. We’ll have another open thread here starting at noon.

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by Bob Wage on Jun 26, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff on Skinner Bob. I don’t know about you but everyone I was with at the draft was surprised at the picks all night long.

Continued tweets today, but certainly not as many. I won’t be tweeting the remaining billion picks, but if anything interesting happens I’ll be sure to put it out there.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jun 26, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

The more I read about Skinner, the more I like the pick. Plus, after hearing that JR tried several times to get either Fowler or Gormley instead of just sitting there and doing nothing, which is what is seemed from the view of my recliner. I guess when those two players fell, JR probably felt they were still in the mix to get them, so what the hell. Let’s roll the dice on it. Unfortunately it didn’t work out that way, but I’m happy they gave it a shot.

 I’m excited about the potential for Skinner though. Hopefully he’ll be able to make an impact sooner rather than later. 70 goals is hard to overlook.

By the way, was there anything to the rumor the Canes were trying to get Versteeg?

by CoastalCane on Jun 26, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Typo Fix...

Plus, after hearing that JR tried several times to get either Fowler or Gormley instead of just sitting there and doing nothing, which is what is seemed from the view of my recliner.

…I can’t complain with his efforts.

by CoastalCane on Jun 26, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I think we can’t go wrong with Merrill, McKenzie, Nemeth, Johns, or Petrovic. I hope the Canes can grab Merrill, but we’ll be set if we can get 2 of those guys. Hopefully one of them will be around at #46, as I’m assuming JR will get a D-man at #37.

In terms of forwards, I’d be very content with Ross. He seems to be a hard-nosed player, which we need. Not sure if he’ll be available, but it’ll be very interesting to see which of our 2nd round picks go to the 2 D-men and which one will go to the forward, assuming that’s what JR is looking to do.

by DesertCaniac on Jun 26, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

All A'Twitter

Late last night, I entered “Skinner” in the search field for Twitter and went back in Time to the moment when the selection was announced.

The explosion in the Twitter universe for the next few minutes took pages and pages, but was highly entertaining.

Then came the waves of second thoughts. Then the analysis began to emerge, along with the links to videos, interviews, and scouting reports.

Fascinating. And, in particular, I happened to run across this tweet from Steve Simmons, lead sports columnist for the Toronto Sun:

Great pick by Carolina. Talking to Seguin’s dad, he thinks Skinner will be best player in draft right after Tyler and Taylor

For background, Skinner and Seguin skated together as peewee players, so Seguin’s dad would indeed “know him when” and has no doubt followed his career to date.

All signs point to us landing a winner, in my book. The more I have seen and read about this kid, the better and better I like his acquisition.

As JR always says, we acquire character.

by Elsker on Jun 26, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Pulkkinen = Drayson Bowman?

Great scorers left for the 3rd Round

by JussiJuice on Jun 26, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Did Galiev ever go?

by JussiJuice on Jun 26, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

pulkikinen could be a steal if we draft him in the 3rd, only issue is his injury history and questions about his attitude/work ethic

by Caniac Kid on Jun 26, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

scratch that we chose another defenseman……pulkkinen there in the 4th??? hopefully

by Caniac Kid on Jun 26, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

but doubtful….florida has 2 of the first three and wouldn’t be surprised to take him, having an awesome draft and creating a future nightmare for us

by Caniac Kid on Jun 26, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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