Busy Day Two In Los Angeles For Canes

Fastest time in AHL 2010, check him out.
Also takes out Harrison Reed here.

and after listening to the radio intrview with JR..tp this fan…it seems that JR & crew are well pleased over all but i still haven’t seen yet if the canes will try and slip the rangersan “offier slip” for Marc Staal…only time will tell huh ?

I’ve been a Kansas City Chiefs (NFL) fan since I was 7, and John Alt is one of the best lineman in that team’s history. I like the pick because sons of athletes tend to be good athletes.

Although a lot of us wanted a different outcome for the Canes picks (Fowler, Pulkinnen, etc) it looks like we may have come up with 3 guys (Skinner, Sanguinetti, and Matsumoto) who could challenge for a roster spot in 10-11. Since Dmen in the draft tend to take some time to get to the NHL, it looks to me like the Canes restocked a bit for the future.

I don’t know anything about these guys other than what I can track down on the interwebs. Canes brass seems happy about the picks, tho, so I will remain optimistic.

At both first glance and after a bit of snooping around, I’m pretty confident we just had a very good draft session, including the trades that happened. This one, I believe, will be looked back upon favorably.

After all, not everyone’s necessarily slated for the Canes, in that there’s also an AHL team in Charlotte to stock. So, having a reserve of AHL’ers that could be called up due to injuries or trades, and not embarrass themselves, is a very good thing.

Plus, it keeps complacency and entitlement from setting into the locker room, when there are capable replacements only a short train ride or drive away.

We’ll have ample opportunity to discuss the individuals as those posts hit the board, but the continual build-up of assets is encouraging.

So is the adept use of selecting at least some D that is headed for colleges to defer the reaping of that asset at a more mature stage of development.

And, so is the acceleration of the value of a late-round pick into a more immediate asset by trade, plugging the gap that occurred with a few failures of our own during that prospect’s draft year.

Good GM’ing, JR. Heck, even the burning of a third-rounder to take a “legacy” player from the Plymouth Whalers probably makes sense if we knew all the details. Jake needs D-men, too, if nothing else.

All in all, I’m fine with the fact that none of four teams bit on the offer of all three of our second rounders for a place at the middle of the first round table.

Not only can that many GM’s not be wrong about the proper market slot for those two D prospects being out of the top ten, but there is no question a discount that has to be applied to D draftees due to the delayed development factor.

Forwards just seem to be able to make a more immediate impact than defensemen earlier in their careers, at least once you get out of the very thin elite D draftees.

But, specifically, the acquisition of either Gormley or Fowler, however you had them ranked, may not have more beneficial impact on the team than how the second rounders were actually used.

Either of those two were probably top 4 D-men, but top pair? Maybe.

But, Faulk alone could potentially also be developed to top-4 status, although probably not a top pairing.

And, now added to that, we have Nash as a serviceable forward through trade of Edmonton’s own second rounder, and Alt as a longer term D project that has a very intriguing upside to it.

All in all, I’m glad that no one wanted to trade, and can’t say that I blame them. Sure looked like an upgrade to them when those two “top 5” D prospects started falling, pulling the second tier of D prospects downward with them.

FWIW, the Flyers bloggers had relatively good things to say about Matsumoto, complained that the team was just clogged up at center ice. They wished him well.

The Canes seem to have a solid draft. If Skinner could turn into a player similar to Zach Parise, I will be freakin’ thrilled. The other move I really like is getting Sanguinetti. That is one move that should pay immediate dividends. If he can move some of that AHL success to the NHL, we got a Jussi steal like AD said.

The other players seem to be good prospects. I wonder if adding Faulk means moving Kyle Lawson. I know Faulk will return to Juniors, but I can’t see having to smaller offensive defenseman on the team down the road. I also wish we would have taken a flyer on Kabanov late in 2nd round. Yeah he might be a head case, but his talent at #53 would be worth the risk IMO. He could turn into fall on his face or turn into a Alexander Semin. Potentially having two young goal scorers like Skinner & Kabanov would have been a nice luxury.

I am watching the Hartford v. Albany game on AHLLive. I had watched the game in real time back in January, 2010. This defenseman Sanguinetti kept out-skating the forwards on his own team. Seeing the game again, I am remembering why Sanguinetti was on my list of young players I hoped the Hurricanes could get. He is big and fast and is confident with the puck. He could be a really good player for the Hurricanes; but somebody really ought to explain to him the wisdom of coming down to Raleigh for the LaRose/Brindy conditioning camp.

Here are some AHL prospects that I have on the grab them if you can list; and in no particular order:

1. 9 Alexandre Picard LW L 6-2 206 Oct 9, 1985 Les Saules, QC; San Antonio Rampage

2. 53 Brandon Mashinter LW L 6-4 225 Sep 20, 1988 Bradford, ON – Worchester Sharks

3. 68 Frazer McLaren 6’ 4" 235 Oct 29, 1987 22 Winnipeg, MB, CAN San Jose Sharks/Worchester Sharks

4. Zach Budish – Zach Budish 6’ 3" 223 May 9, 1991 19 Edina, MN, USA Nashville Predators prospect playing at University of Minn.

  I had hoped the Hurricanes would focus on adding big, fast, mean forwards after their #7 pick and then focus next draft on their defensive needs. As it turns out, the Hurricanes did the reverse and loaded up on defensive prospects for many of their draft picks. I can obviously see the logic of that approach; but I do hope next year’s draft is nobody other than big and burly need apply theme.

  I do very much like the addition of Nash and Sanguinetti. To me it’s even better than three #1 draft picks in 2010 because Sanguinetti and Nash are further along in their careers. I had heard that the Hurricanes had their eyes on Justin Faulk; and I was a little bit surprised he was still available.

   The time for developing defensemen is clearly longer than forwards, but some of the young draftees may be pleasant surprises. This draft shows how quickly a team can load up on young talent if they are willing to trade some of their players. As a sidenote, it also shows how costly the Whitney non-deal was if Whitney doesn’t re-sign. Another first round draft choice could have been Fowler or Gormley.

On Nash – found a quick analysis for the cost of the Nash trade from an EDM point of view. Upshot: OILER FAIL

Sutter, Boychuk, Dalpe, Tlusty (I still feel is going to be a fine player for years to come), Bowman, Skinner, Osala, Nash, Lindstrom and Jared Staal – that’s a great group of young forwards going in the future with a good mix of speed, skill and size. Add to that Eric Staal, Ruutu and Jokinen all have many productive years ahead of them as well. I feel confident we have set ourselves up great for the future once all these guys get together and get some chemistry.

The D-corps looks pretty good in the future if could be looking at keeping Pitkanen and Gleason along with McBain, Carson, Domuolin, Sanguinetti, Borer, Picard and the other defenseman we’ve drafted this year – hoping they pan out. Biega will be good player for us down the road me thinks!

Saw a sort somewhat like this on another fan site, although I’ve augmented this one a bit, and yes, I’m including Babchuk as a done deal.

Note the incredible youth and depth of our once very thin D-corps supply line, and the seeming ability to actually draft some talent lately.

Tim Gleason: 27 (trade)
Jay Harrison: 27 (UFA)
Joni Pitkanen: 26 (trade)
Anton Babchuk: 26 (trade)
Alex Picard: 26 (trade)
Casey Borer: 24 (draft)
Brett Carson: 24 (draft)
Kyle Lawson: 23 (draft)
Justin Krueger: 23 (draft)
Jamie McBain: 22 (draft)
Brett Bellemore: 22 (draft)
Bob Sanguinetti: 22 (trade)
Michal Jordan: 19 (draft)
Tommi Kivisto: 19 (draft)
Brian Dumoulin: 18 (draft)
Rasmus Rissanen: 18 (draft)
Justin Faulk: 18 (draft)
Mark Alt: 18 (draft)
Danny Biega: 18 (draft)
Austin Levi: 18 (draft)
Tyler Stahl: 18 (draft)

Quite a haystack in which to search for 6 or 7 serviceable needles.

Don’t be too surprised if Bellemore comes to training camp and makes some noise. His skating and positioning improved by leaps and bounds over this past season.

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Great links on Mark Alt.

MUST READ this one from NHL.com posted in April

Western College Hockey blog. (SBN cousin) offers additional links and background.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/412090-2010-nhl-draft-carolina-hurricanes-analysis-and-recap?utm_campaign=buzztap&utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

Here is the Bleacher report for the Hurricanes draft. Also, if somebody can explain how I change the name to shorten the URL link, I will be happy to do so in the future.

  Interestingly, a number of commentators have called Justin Shugg the Hurricanes steal of the draft. He may be anywhere from two to four years away from being ready, but he does have the physical and mental skill sets to be a productive Canes team member. I don’t like using the term “role” player because every player has a role on the team; but he seems to be a very versatile player who will do whatever it takes to stick in the NHL. Could he become the younger version of LaRose with perhaps better all around hockey skills?

Here’s a link to a status report on Marc Staal.

http://tinyurl.com/2fw7r5k

I used www.tinyurl.com and hopefully that works

Salter gets my award as co-owner of arrogant chump chump – along with Burke. I think Salter is pressing his luck by pulling Marc Staal’s chain.

Here is a link with an interesting quote by Salter about trading Sanguinetti. I continue to wonder if Marc Staal just wants out of the Rangers zoo.

    http://tinyurl.com/2b6cx67

“(Sanguinetti) is a nice kid, but I don’t think he’s going to fit the bill right now with the guys we have in the lineup and the guys we have drafted. It was better to move him now for a pick this year and an important pick next year."

I think it all translated into “Nash Just Wasn’t That Into Edmonton”
http://tinyurl.com/2cy6bwc

Basically, the Oilers felt Nash was less than thrilled with being an Oiler. In my view, that observation by Nash speaks well of his intellect. The Oilers and Maple Leafs are teams that grind down their young players.

“For three years he put up fairly good numbers (103 points in 102 games) with the defensive-minded college team, but when the Oilers kept asking if he wanted to leave school and sign with them, he had little interest. When he had the chance to talk about the rebuilding Oilers and how nice that might be to be a part of it, he showed little inclination for it.”