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Rod Brind`Amour Decision Looms

Carolina Hurricanes GM and President Jim Rutherford said today that Rod Brind`Amour had not been placed on waivers.....yet.  The team needs to make a decision very soon about whether they are going to buy out the former captain's contract or not.  Apparently, if they do buy him out, he will be placed on waivers tomorrow.

Canes Now did a nice job of clearing up some confusion on the internet about the necessary timing of it all.  Several people thought that a player had to be placed on waivers by noon today in order to be bought out tomorrow, but apparently there is a loophole regarding that rule. 

If there is one thing I know about the CBA, it is filled with loopholes. 

Today was an active one for the waiver wire though as several teams unloaded players suspected of being candidates for buyouts. 

Edmonton captain Ethan Moreau was on the list. 

More names after the jump:

Star-divide

The Oilers also waived Patrick O`Sullivan and Robert Nilsson.  The Lightning waived bye to Todd Fedoruk.  The Rangers did the same with Donald Brashear, Aaron Voros, and Patrick Rissmiller.   

With Brashear and Laraques now without teams, does this mark the end of the role of enforcers as we know it today? That is another topic for another day.

Previously waived players include Jonathan Cheechoo, Ales Kotalik, and Jim Vandermeer.

In other news:

Marc Staal and the New York Rangers appear to be miles apart in their contract discussions.  Many people are talking about possible offer sheets for the defenseman, but Staal would not come cheap.  Depending upon the size of the contract, the Canes would have to offer New York multiple draft picks in compensation.  

But before you think that Jim Rutherford would be much too conservative to ever try giving up several high draft picks for just a single player, keep in mind that in 1994 he did trade three number one picks to the Boston Bruins for Glen Wesley, and he never regretted making that deal.

Making a play for Marc Staal would be a longshot, but crazier things have happened. Too bad there is a budget! (Won't be the last time we say that this year.)

Bobby Ryan is also a target of some teams out in Anaheim.

What do you think the Canes should do about Rod Brind'Amour?

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Should the Carolina Hurricanes buy out Rod Brind`Amour's contract?
yes, we need room with the budget
65 votes
yes, another player should take his place
130 votes
yes, but for another reason
7 votes
no, he deserves to ride out his contract
93 votes
no, the savings is not worth it
13 votes
no, but for another reason
16 votes
undecided
27 votes

351 votes | Poll has closed

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marc staal would be amazing. slowly pulling together all staals one at a time….

by chrisj on Jun 29, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Rod should annouce retirement on his own, not sure how that works out in the contract. We all know there is a front office job waiting for him. It’s hard to give something up when you done it forever, it’s all he knows. Good Luck Rod.

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by canescup on Jun 29, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

They need to buy out Brindy’s contract. I like him, and his work ethic is second to none, but paying over 3.5 mil for a 4th line center is hurting this organization. Buy him out and make some room financially and in the roster for younger players. I know he wants to finish his contract, but If Brindy really wants to do something good for the ’Canes, he needs to retire.

by rubyhawk on Jun 29, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Ruby, I think you’re confusing Rod’s Cap Hit with his actual salary. His cap hit is in the 3.6 million range IIRC, but his salary this season is $3 million.

I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.

by C-Leaguer on Jun 29, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah thats right. I didn’t double check with nhlnumbers.com. Still, I think the point remains pretty valid.

by rubyhawk on Jun 29, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bob

Please don’t give anyone on here any fuel to add to the M. Staal conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not gonna happen!!!! Lets all move along with this topic.

Carolina Hurricanes! Your 2011 Stanley Cup Champions!

by canescup on Jun 29, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I couldn’t help myself!

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by Bob Wage on Jun 29, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a word for you Bob. ENABLER. :)

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now – how come he’s not an instigator?

Twitter @HMof2

by hockeymomof2 on Jun 29, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Instigate: to urge, provoke, or incite to some action or course; see HM.

Enable: to make able; give power, means, competence, or ability to; authorize; see Bob.

For you HM, think more poking the sleeping bear while Bob was more fanning the flames.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whats funny is most people on here complain about the Staal we have. So why would they want another? LOWe already own 50% of the Staals.

Carolina Hurricanes! Your 2011 Stanley Cup Champions!

by canescup on Jun 29, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but acquiring a third would allow the Canes to complete a hostile take over of the entire Staal family. Imagine what we could do with that sod farm. Just think of all the way PK could make the profits grow!

I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.

by C-Leaguer on Jun 29, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over 50% actually. I hear part of Staal’s contract extension was promising his first born son to the franchise. Therefore, Parker is ours unless he’s part of the offer sheet for Marc…

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus eric is obviously more 25% of the brothers

by chrisj on Jun 29, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s no option for “pray he gracefully retires and moves into a front office position so that he doesn’t slink off to another team without getting the recognition he’s earned.” If there was, that would get my vote. Instead I picked undecided.

Now before I get flamed for what I just said, I fully understand the financial ramifications and the logical reasons for buying him out. It is definitely the more business-y idea. But I also know that it doesn’t sit right with me and, if that’s what the team did, it never would.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

what she said…btw- hey, cg!

by briney on Jun 29, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey briney! Glad to see you on here-it’s been a while no?

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah….its been hard since we had the little guy, but since hes ~6 months, i get more sleep, time….hope you are enjoying your summer

by briney on Jun 29, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awww a new baby! Please tell me there’s a picture of him in a Hurricanes’ onesie. You gotta start him early you know. :)

I am enjoying my summer-thanks for asking! Trying to stay cool is almost a 24 hour job, but other than that I can’t complain. Hope you’re enjoying that new Caniac!

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to show him off.
Embarrassingly though, I need to know how to post pictures? I see the picture link button, but it asks for a web address? What if the pic is not on the web, but instead on my comp?

by briney on Jun 29, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You first have to post it somewhere online. Facebook works if you have one.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is when he was about 3 months…its harder to buy stuff for him now, he is just growing like crazy

by briney on Jun 29, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

can you see the picture? i cant?

by briney on Jun 29, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not unless your kid looks like a red x. Make sure you get the URL address when posting.

Carolina Hurricanes! Your 2011 Stanley Cup Champions!

by canescup on Jun 29, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

copy the URL, click on the tree and insert the URL, that should do it!

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Jun 29, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I can’t see it either.

If you right click on the picture, you should get a pop-up menu. Click on properties and then copy whatever is in the “location” blank. That goes in the URL blank when you try and insert a picture.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw that’s a keeper! Love it!

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is precious!! He is gorgeous!!

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Jun 30, 2010 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey!!! Success! You got the picture posted. He looks like he’s got the earnestness of Tim Gleason and the charm of Ray Whitney. Enjoy fatherhood – it goes by so fast!

Let's go Hartolina WhalerCanes!!!! I am a big fan of the Canes, but I still have some residual Brass Bonanza Blue and Green in me.

by Ned Butler on Jun 29, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks! it already has flown by!

Re Ray Whitney: the day my son was born (Jan 2), the wizard netted a game winner in OT. we were watching it and waiting for the c-section. a couple hours after the game winner, grady was born, so the reay reference there is hilarious!

by briney on Jun 29, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta get him a Staal jersey, I can tell thats who his favorite player is.

Carolina Hurricanes! Your 2011 Stanley Cup Champions!

by canescup on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t corrupt the children.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

his first will be a ruutu – like his papa’s! but a staal would look sweet, too

by briney on Jun 29, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely adorable! He’s just a few short months away from a foam finger and a foam puck hat.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

for sure! he is a cute little guy. his momma used to figure skate, and I look….well, horrendous on ice. hopefully his momma’s genes will override mine!

by briney on Jun 29, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we have a future Jeff Skinner on our hands?!

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

first born and raised raleigh-ite to play for the canes…that sounds awesome

by briney on Jun 30, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

gee briney

he looks like a future McBain…but seriously…congrats and yes babies don’t wait…as you pics prove…they grow up all too fast too ! Be well & Be blessed

And if it Aint Hockey,It Aint Nothin !!
The Checkers 3rd Sweater ROCKS !!!

by CaniacSteve on Jun 30, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

AWWW new baby!! Congrats!! Whats his name??

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Jun 29, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grady James…thanks!

by briney on Jun 29, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

great name!

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Jun 29, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a fan, I would love to see Rod’s farewell tour. But the good of the team is greater than the good of one individual. For some athletes (Brett Favre anyone?) walking away is just too hard to do. The problem with Rod is that the game is becoming too fast for him. It happens to a lot of athletes. When the greats of the game, no matter what the sport, choose to believe that isn’t the case, it’s painful to watch. I believe he has a place with the franchise, but that place is no longer on the ice. We’ll always remember the images of #17 lifting the Cup. But it’s time to say goodbye. I hope he chooses retirement.

As for what should be done…like I said, the good of the team is the direction I would choose.

by CoastalCane on Jun 29, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Very well said and it echos my thoughts.

As much money as these guys make, I’m sure leaving 3 million on the table for Rod would be hard. However, I can’t imagine Rod enjoying the thought of possibly being benched next season because one of the kids is doing a better job on the ice than him. Maybe he thinks he can turn it around, but after the past two seasons that looks highly unlikely… As hard as it would be to buy out our fearless captain that won us a cup, I for one don’t think it will be any easier to watch him struggle through another season with a -25. This is one of those times I’m glad I’m not JR.

by caniac4ever on Jun 29, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want him to retire with dignity and not have to have the team “get rid of” him. All Canes fans will never forget the good things he did for this franchise and we don’t want him to embarrass himself or go out in any other way that would tarnish our memories of his accomplishments. We want to celebrate his new career teaching our newer players what it takes to be a NHL player.

by FoxtrotSierra on Jun 30, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off Topic, but

does anyone know the beef Ryan Lambert has with the Carolina Hurricanes? Everyone of his articles, without fail, features some snide attack, some way to put us down. I for one cannot figure out where his anger comes from, could someone enlighten me?

by SouthernHockeyNutter on Jun 29, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyone who writes on Puckdaddy bashes the Canes every chance they get. Thats why I usually don’t read anything they post. They get WAY to much publicity in my opinion. We shouldn’t even have a link to Puckdaddys on the side bar, but thats just me.

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by canescup on Jun 29, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but they make fun of every team.

http://www.prosportsblogging.com

by Great Ice-Pectations on Jun 29, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your right, they really do, especially Lambert. Puck Daddy is probably my fav site after this one. I look forward to the “What We Learned” features.

by TylerA7707 on Jun 29, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Puck Daddy Greg Wyshynski thought the Checkers jersey would awesome just yesterday. Wyshynski is not down on us really. He had nice things to say about the team when he was on 99.9 this season. And he likes this blog.

Twitter @HMof2

by hockeymomof2 on Jun 29, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was actually joking the polar bear with a hockey stick in its mouth. The title of the post in general was a joke also. Definitely was not saying it was cool.

Carolina Hurricanes! Your 2011 Stanley Cup Champions!

by canescup on Jun 29, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He said it was aces. The Canes and the Checkers retweeted it and put it on their facebook pages because they liked what he said…..?

Twitter @HMof2

by hockeymomof2 on Jun 29, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Na … Greg Wysh gets on every team and has been very good to us. Equal opportunity offender. Good guy, too.

by Cory Lavalette on Jun 29, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like you two have something on your noses….just saying.

by max creek on Jun 29, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right … b/c I make all sorts of cash money off this site.

by Cory Lavalette on Jun 29, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excuse me?

Twitter @HMof2

by hockeymomof2 on Jun 29, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is

puck daddy and what do they “really know” ?? is their information more accurate say the THN 7 Bob McKinzie( oh gawd…i just butchered his name…I needs more coffee)

And if it Aint Hockey,It Aint Nothin !!
The Checkers 3rd Sweater ROCKS !!!

by CaniacSteve on Jun 30, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fact: -25 or worse the past two seasons
Fact: 3 million against the cap for what is a 4th line low minutes center.
Fact: NOBODY has been praising Brindy’s play the past two years
Fact: Brindy outshined all players in the strength and conditioning drills
Fact: He was removed as captain of the Hurricanes mid season.
Fact: He would have retired by now if that was any consideration of his

The best we can do is offer our “opinions” on how Brindy should be handled. The facts speak loud and clear. Crushing people in strength and conditioning does not equal on ice performance. Nobody can argue his play has been sub-par for two years steadily and 2 1/2 if ya want to be picky. We can all agree he was instrumental in winning the cup, and has been a great leader on and off the ice. We can also agree he will be a part of the front office. Our hearts, feelings and wishes are not going to lead to victories… BUY HIM OUT!

by max creek on Jun 29, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

So if I understand the drama today over at tweetergate we will find out tomorrow at noon which way Brindy will fall??

Is it October yet?

by hotchipsnsalsa on Jun 29, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I think tomorrow at around 5 p.m. is when the carriage turns into a pumpkin.

by abramsdoug on Jun 29, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised so many people voted the same as I – I expected from the comments posted above that I’d be the only person with this opinion… but I say let him finish what he started. I think we owe it to him – If he isn’t ready to quit, then he shouldn’t be forced to. Yes he had trouble in the past two seasons, after coming off of serious injury who wouldn’t? But nothing is more insulting than saying, “Thanks for giving our franchise legitimacy, contributing to the success of a so called non-hockey marketed region, and above all else thanks for leading a bottom-feeder team of misfits to the first national championship this state has ever won, but we want to give you money to stay away from our roster next season. Your contributions don’t matter anymore, but you can have a desk job downstairs as consolation.” That’s what a buy-out is to me and Rod deserves better. Don’t take the decision out of his hands. If he wants to risk whatever to complete his obligations/contract and support his teammates next season (a rebuild season that is full of unexperienced young players, who look up to him for leadership), let him choose to do so, it’s his right and JR shouldn’t take that away.

It had to be hard to give away the captaincy, it has to be ten times harder to give away his professional career.

To those who say they don’t like seeing him damage his reputation and stats, I understand and feel the same way to an extent. But it’s not our place to tell him that he can’t use the last season of his contract to try to remedy that. Let him say goodbye on his terms.

Maybe this is me wearing my heart on my sleeve, but I’m tired of reading about how Rod had become a joke, hearing people in the crowd at games screaming for him to retire and shouting that we don’t want him anymore… I do. No matter who is wearing the C, Rod Brind’Amour will always be the Captain to me. Now, flame on me all you want, if you don’t respect where I am coming from I really don’t care.

by jb_online on Jun 29, 2010 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I see what your saying, but at the same time its a “team” game. BrindAmour isnt stupid, he sees his +/- stats. He knows whats going on on the ice. JR has to consider the other players too. Brindy has become a detriment, he should bow out gracefully on his own. It begins to look selfish on his part.

by TylerA7707 on Jun 29, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brind'Amour

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and CC exists so opinions can be expressed. I happen to disagree. I think each season every player earns the right to play. Nobody, not even a former captain, is entitled to a roster spot as far as I am concerned. Brind’Amour has played extremely poorly for almost 2 and one half seasons. In a time of a tight budget, it is unconscionable that he would be paid $3,000,000.00 out of respect for past performances when the Hurricanes can save at minimum $500,000 even after paying $500,000 to a younger, more motivated player. Brind’Amour’s time has come and gone. The Canes should buy him out and turn the page on his playing career.

by abramsdoug on Jun 29, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doug, we’ve been over the contract issue before. The team can’t renegotiate. Brindy can’t renegotiate. It costs $2million to buy him out and at least another $500k to replace him. They can’t save at minimum $500 k. They can save at most $500k. If it’s Matsumoto who replaces Brindy the savings will be less as he made $600k last season and is currently an RFA.

It’s very important you realize these facts. You’re starting to get like political pundits where you just repeat incorrect things over and over again hoping somehow they become true.

I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.

by C-Leaguer on Jun 30, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Here’s the exact math: If Brind’Amour is bought out, the Hurricanes pay Brind’Amour $1,000,000.00 in 2010. The Hurricanes then pay Brind’Amour $1,000,000 in 2011. The initial savings are $1,000,000 plus interest. The $1,000,000 of savings are then used to fund any player they choose. They could use the $1,000,000 to aggregate toward a player like Marc Staal. The money that was allocated for Whitney could also go for that purpose. Your example is accurate that if a player who has a salary more than $500,000 is retained, the total savings in cash is less than $500,000.00; but the team also obtains a player whose skill level is much, much higher than Brind’Amour and whose long term future with the team is much, much higher. I also apologize for the sloppy and potentially misleading word choices above. I am in total agreement that it is really important to be 100% accurate so people can use accurate information to reach their own conclusions.

by abramsdoug on Jun 30, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doug, it’s a $ 2 million dollar buy out regardless of how you look at it. There is little or no interest as the money won’t be invested. There is little decline in the future value as inflation is not a worry. There is a concern of deflation which could make $1million next year more valuable than $1million this year. You can’t put the $1million you save towards someone else, that would be upping the cost because you would be spending more money. Spending the $1million this year doesn’t get the team out of spending the $1million next year on Brind’Amour.

As for players that make $500 K whose

kill level is much, much higher than Brind’Amour and whose long term future with the team is much, much higher.

Find me one. The players who will take that spot are Dwyer or Matsumoto, with Dwyer the likely replacement. Dwyer is 26. He is what he is. He’s not more skilled than Brind’Amour and his future with the team is only until a player with more upside is acquired.

There is not a world of choices in this situation. The budget is what the budget is. The players are who they are. You have only a couple of choices and you keep pushing for something that isn’t possible.

I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.

by C-Leaguer on Jun 30, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dwyer v. Brind'Amour

I totally disagree with you as it relates to Dwyer. Dwyer is faster, stronger even though he is 25 lbs lighter, quicker, better offensively, and has a much better future. I really haven’t seen anybody reference any part of a single game where they say they’ve gone to the videos and have an example of Brind’Amour playing really well.

  I think Samson is far better than Brind’Amour as well. Time after time I watched videos of the games and Brind’Amour was far and away the player most often out of position, missing passes, missing assignments, losing pucks in the corner. If anybody has some concrete references to specific instances where Brind’Amour excelled, I am really very eager to see them. It’s a long season and I could easily have missed it.

by abramsdoug on Jun 30, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doug, you yourself say you’re biased on the positive aspects of the younger players. Neither guy you’ve mentioned has shown an ability to kill penalties or win faceoffs and Brindy’s clip.

As for watching video, you need to realize that hockey, like baseball, is a game of failure. If you go out looking for failure you will always find it. Doesn’t matter who. It goes with the territory.

I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.

by C-Leaguer on Jun 30, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

DA, looking for failure from Brind'Amour?

How could you ever come to that conclusion.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 1, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

…the team also obtains a player whose skill level is much, much higher than Brind’Amour…

For $0.5M?!? Reality check in order here.

In fact, this is the primary argument for skating him next season.

by Elsker on Jun 30, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, we will know very shortly whether the organization feels Brind’Amour’s days as a Hurricane are over. I much prefer Dwyer, Samson, Osala, Bowman, Dodge, or Terry to Brind’Amour. Osala would be paid more than the minimum, as would Bowman. Still they all would cost less than $1,000,000.00.

by abramsdoug on Jun 30, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sign of the Times

It’s not even going to come down to a talent decision whatsoever.

It’s going to be a money decision all the way.

They need to shed existing salary budget to even complete out the roster and stay under their self-imposed budget.

Even $0.5M saved looks good right now, and it’s actually $1.5M saved in this season’s cash flow.

It came down to a cash-flow business decision.

’Tis the times.

by Elsker on Jun 30, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I voted the same way as you, JB.

Not because I think it’s the best business decision or that it necessarily optimizes the team’s position in the short term, but because I do think it is the most “right” thing to do.

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by LTD on Jun 30, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

he has 1 year left on his contract, make it a “farewell” tour kind of year, and let him retire after it is done…..I know some of us want to buy him out, but do we REALLY want to see another ending like what happened to Ronnie Franchise?

by lrcaniac on Jun 29, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

What happened, exactly?

The guy wanted a Cup he could appreciate as an older, more mature player than he was in the early 90s. And if you look at his numbers with Toronto (10 points in the 12 regular-season games he played there), he still had plenty left to offer on the ice.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 1, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe not but..

i want to make the playoffs more..!!!!

by randycane on Jun 29, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone on here from Raleigh watch the news tonight? Someone on another board said that they announced Brindy was scheduled to have a news conference tomorrow. Anyone else heard anything?

by caniac4ever on Jun 29, 2010 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t hear anything about that. I’ll do some digging and see if I can find anything.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jun 29, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been digging and haven’t come up with even a sniff of anything. Sounds to good to be true…

by caniac4ever on Jun 29, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

WRAL just put up a post at about 11:25.

Rod Brind’Amour not likely to return to Hurricanes
According to our sources… All indications now point to Brind’Amour NOT coming back to play for the Canes next season…

Our sources would not confirm that a buyout specifically will take place… But they do make it clear that Brind’Amour believes he can still play in the NHL… Only now, it does not not look like he’ll be playing for the Carolina Hurricanes…

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by hockeymomof2 on Jun 29, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty vague – but still from the flagship station of the Hurricanes. not exactly the right time of night to generate a lot of pageviews.

Whichever way it goes, this is not a small story.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jun 29, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yo Cory

saw the story on the other section of SBNation….lots to think about and from what i have seen in my short time here…I truely feel that there could or might be a mutiny of STH’s if the Juice was delt to the rangers along with a pick or 2 for Marc Staal…maybe just maybe JR & PK may want to gamble but until a new partner is in place and the check book balance checked & verified…fans like AD may just have to dream a wee bit longer…but that’s how i see that…as I don’t knpw any more than many other fans here do…thanks for the efforts…

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by CaniacSteve on Jun 30, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this the end...or the beginning?

I DVR TWC’s Sports Night (10 pm) every night, because they nearly always have a Canes segment, even in the off-season.

Just got around to watching tonight’s version (or fast-forwarding to the Canes segment, actually) and tonight’s Canes segment was about 8 minutes long (Canes home victory long), featuring a phone interview with Tripp Tracy.

There were vague references to “an announcement expected tomorrow about the decision”, but no specific mention of a press conference. Still, it does seem logical that with all the speculation and interest that there would at least have to be some kind of statement/announcement by JR, if nothing else.

But, although Tripp claimed not to know what Brind’Amour’s decison would be (note he didn’t say what JR’s decision would be), the entire tone of the interview was one of almost a eulogy.

Nothing but glowing statements and nostalgic reminiscing. Also, a tell-tale sign was Tripp stayed in the past tense voice throughout the entire 8 minutes.

My spidey-sense tells me that we’re going to hear a “retirement” announcement, coupled with an org position that will effectively give him his contract income spread out over a number of years.

Guy’s getting married next month, his mom attended her first practice ever at the end of last season, everything’s being allowed to run right down to the dramatic deadline.

I think it’s over and he’s going to go out classy…as always. And the Canes brain trust gains another member.

by Elsker on Jun 29, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know about that retirement part. Sounds like he’s leaving but wants to continue playing.

by TylerA7707 on Jun 30, 2010 12:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

My spidey-sense tells me that we’re going to hear a "retirement" announcement, coupled with an org position that will effectively give him his contract income spread out over a number of years.

This has been my thought for some time now. I may be proven wrong tomorrow (okay, later today), but I can’t see the organization not allowing him the chance to [at least publicly] go out on his terms.

So you financially make it worth his while to retire by making sure he gets paid the money he’d leave on the table if he retired versus the buyout.

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by LTD on Jun 30, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trustee of Trust or Executor of Will Could Have a Say

   I keep coming back in my own mind to the intensity of the desire to obtain a partner or partners for the minority shares. I can easily envision the trustee of a trust or an executor of a will of the minority shareholder taking the position that the organization should treat Brind’Amour like Player X and evaluate his salary on a past-performance neutral basis. It also could simply be that Peter Karmanos is a loyal friend and realizes that his partner’s estate needs the liquidity badly.

by abramsdoug on Jun 30, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

A minority share holder likely wouldn’t have that much control.

I just wish JR would have given up Ray Whitney for Lent.

by C-Leaguer on Jun 30, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

sigh...

while i too want this soap opera to end with style and flash…but Rod needs to step up and say & do something now…as in reality…he has just over 9 hours to speak or for JR to speak and act…add that to and along with…as in 16 hours and 16 mins free agency hits the wind for the entire NHL…and while it maybe a dull,hot & long summer…so far it is far from being boring is it ?

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by CaniacSteve on Jun 30, 2010 7:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Will the Modano exit, which is similar to Brind’Amour’s situation, ease the case for the ‘Canes to let Brindy go if it comes down to that decision? Interesting that both players are experiencing this. Also, seems like a lot of buy outs this year as well with other players that I don’t recall in the past.

Is it October yet?

by hotchipsnsalsa on Jun 30, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Neidermeyer’s retirement also seems relevant.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jun 30, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but I felt like Neidermeyer made the decision to retire on his own accord and was content with his own decision. Modano and Brindy seem to be forced to make a decision they are not ready to make.

Is it October yet?

by hotchipsnsalsa on Jun 30, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brind'Amour and Buy Out

If as predicted by WRAL, Brind’Amour is bought out, the next question is will any NHL team take him. Modano can still play, I think. I will be very surprised if Brind’Amour finds a suitor in the NHL.

by abramsdoug on Jun 30, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

It may be important to note, though...

That Modano immediately got interest from Detroit, one of the best-run organizations (and one of the most successful) in hockey.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 1, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you all heard Chuck Kaiton this morning on this? Cyn4Canes tweeted it. (on 99.9 w/Mike M)

He points out that Rod is a big boy and this is how the CBA was written. He also is sentimental about what Rod means. His “head” thinks there is gonna be a buy out.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jun 30, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Chuck Kaiton

  I really think the time has come and although the emotions are difficult, the ultimate decision is clear.

by abramsdoug on Jun 30, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard nothing but “buyout” in JR’s voice for weeks.

by Elsker on Jun 30, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve felt that as well. As in “Rod, don’t make me do it this way.”

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by LTD on Jun 30, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

How can Brind’Amour look at the video clips they give each player of their shifts for each game and not conclude he is a shadow of his former self?

by abramsdoug on Jun 30, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please, for just one day, if nothing else.

Let’s ease up a bit.

by Elsker on Jun 30, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is a very fair request. Consider it done. I apologize.

by abramsdoug on Jun 30, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s easy. To you and I it may seem obvious, but don’t you have a passion for something and you feel like the outcome is not up to your expectations someimes, but you contnue because know you can do better? It’s inert.

Is it October yet?

by hotchipsnsalsa on Jun 30, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just promised Elsker I’d let up on Brind’Amour; and absolutely I understand how hard the decision is for any athlete to say goodbye. It’s heart-wrenching.

by abramsdoug on Jun 30, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

And, as a returned favor, I’m going to let any and all of his fantasies involving our prospects next season go unchallenged today. :-D

by Elsker on Jun 30, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

How sweet to see you guys declare a truce. I love this blog! Great people. (And I understand both of your points of view – I take no sides, as far fetched as ADog gets at time, at least no one can deny he’s a Hurricane fan through and through.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jun 30, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Far Fetched and All That

   No doubt far fetched is always on my left shoulder. Still, my recollection is that I wrote some time ago that the Hurricanes would go young and that quite a few of the Hurricanes’ fans favorite players were not going to be on the team. The response was somewhat intense to those suggestions and observations. Of course, even a broken watch is right twice a day; so the fact reality came to match my hypothetical outcomes is almost certainly the function of random luck rather than any insight.

by abramsdoug on Jul 3, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

A shadow of Rod Brind'Amour...

Is a hell of a lot better than the AAAA center we’ll probably have taking his spot on the roster.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 1, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Unfortunately, Irresistible Force > Immovable Object.

by Elsker on Jun 30, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope they give Rod a job as a conditioning coach. Maybe we wont’ have as many injuries.

Hopefully the 'Canes re-sign Ray Whitney to a nice 2 year deal and he retires comfortably at age 40. Maybe even 1 more Stanley Cup? :)

by thebl4ckd0g on Jun 30, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Less than an hour to go. Any press conferences or conference calls scheduled yet?

Let's go Hartolina WhalerCanes!!!! I am a big fan of the Canes, but I still have some residual Brass Bonanza Blue and Green in me.

by Ned Butler on Jun 30, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

News conference at 2:30 pm

Check out this tweet from Sundheim:

Rod Brind’Amour will hold a news conference at 2:30 today. It will be avail.streaming on http://carolinahurricanes.com

by Elsker on Jun 30, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

There it is.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jun 30, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

So if he isn’t placed on waivers by noon, are we looking at Brind’Amour announcing his retirement or explaining his decision to play another year?

Let's go Hartolina WhalerCanes!!!! I am a big fan of the Canes, but I still have some residual Brass Bonanza Blue and Green in me.

by Ned Butler on Jun 30, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was some attempts to clarify the sequence required by the CBA. I believe they don’t have to put him on waivers to before they buy him out, if that’s the way it goes. But they have to happen all at the same time, or in a timely manner. It wa very vague.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jun 30, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

JR at 3:30 pm

And this tweet from Brian LeBlanc (@puckdrops):

Brind’Amour will hold a media availability at 2:30 today. Rutherford will hold a conference call at 3:30. Not much doubt about the topic.

by Elsker on Jun 30, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

We’ve got it on the CC front page to handle the discussion now.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jun 30, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

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