Brind'Amour's Number 17 To Be Retired on February 18
by Bob Wage on Jul 15, 2010 2:19 PM EDT
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The Carolina Hurricanes will retire former captain Rod Brind`Amour's jersey and lift it to the rafters during a ceremony on February 18, 2011, before playing the Philadelphia Flyers.
That night is surely to be a sellout. We will have much more here leading up to the big date.
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What else can you say....
A glorious carrier in the NHL, a great player, a great leader, and all around wonderful human.
Thanks for everything Captain.
I never did see Francis’ jersey retirement but I was there for Wesley’s. That was an emotional night and can’t wait to see that #17 be raised up.
Glad I chose the “Red” pack now! :)
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.
Retrospective
His playing career may be over, but the memories remain.
Welcome to the brain trust, Rod
Unanswered questions are far less dangerous than unquestioned answers.
His playing career may over, but he will create more memories....he's not done yet.
Roddy has always been a great player, but he has always been an even better leader and coach. While the prior is now done, the latter in my mind is just starting to “bubble over.” He will hopefully be part of the NHL and our organization for a long time, he’s done as a player, but as a leader, he never stopped and he will not now. There is nothing more that I would enjoy than watching Rod win it as a coach (in any position) of our team- that would be pretty kickbutt!
by PittsburghCaniac on Jul 16, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Logistics of the Feb 18, 2011 vs. Nov 11, 2010
I would have thought they’d plan this around the first Home games against the Flyers (11/11) . But the more I think about it the more the February date makes sense as It’s on a Friday (versus a Thursday for the 11/11 game) and it comes after a long road trip and isn’t at the beginning of the season when it could be a distraction for the young guys. Plus it’s after the All-Star game when the entire region will hopefully be riding the momentum of the event and as the team makes the push towards the playoffs.
I was going to trade my tickets for that game in since it’s a Friday and they’re hard to get home for. I won’t be doing that anymore.
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
Let the verbal assault begin!
I’m going to go ahead and assume that I’m in the minority here, but I don’t think #17 needs to be in the rafters. Francis, yes. Wesley, yes. Rod the Bod, not so much. I think we’re diminishing the symbolism of retiring a number a little on this one. Pretty soon, players are going to have to start wearing fractions like on Futurama.
Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.
I totally and completely disagree with you. Nobody would mistake me for a person who thought Brind’Amour could do no wrong; but he 100% deserves to have his jersey retired. I am looking forward to cheering for him. I hope and think he will be a Hall of Fame player. His heroics in 2005-2006 were super-human. There would be no Stanley Cup in 2005-2006 but for Brind’Amour. If that were all he had done, and it surely is not, his jersey should be retired.
Huh?
What more did those two players do than Brind’Amour? He was the Captain during the Cup year, and he was one of our top offensive threats for years.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 15, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Well at least you admitted up front you would probably be in the minority. On that much you are correct I would guess.
He was there for the 02 run, they get the cup with him as captain. His leadership through the up and down patches that followed the cup win, up to and including his decline from injury, passing on the “C” to Staal with no drama or complaint, to even his decision to retire, many of his actions scream of “team” player.
What is freshest in many peoples mind is his poor play post knee surgery. Yet if you step back and look at the whole of his career while with the Hurricanes, I would argue he has been the “face” of Hurricanes hockey. All of that AND the 06 cup win. Yeah i would have been very surprised and a bit upset if they had NOT retired his jersey.
by Brian Boyette on Jul 16, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
So, if he had done nothing except captain a cup winning team he gets a jersey retired? That would be kinda weird, huh? I can certainly see where people would disagree with me, and I have never bashed Brindy ( i made a couple old man jokes, and I did want him to retire last offseason, but never bashed him ). There would be nothing more for me to ask of him, from the time he walked through the doors of the ESA, to the time he retired, he did it all. Class act all the way. But, really that’s like the 3rd jersey retirement in, what, 5 years? It just doesn’t do it for me, it feels cheap to me now. Not to mention the way we hand ‘em out, we’ll have no numbers left. #10, and #2 are gone, #3 was already out of circulation, and if I’m remembering correctly #9 is out of circulation as well.
Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.
Well, if it’s keeping you up nights, take some comfort in the fact that there’s no one else on the horizon that’s worthy.
Next candidate is Staal deciding to be a lifer and retiring here. Long ways away and certainly no lock for odds.
The org just honored three warriors from the first great decade of the Canes. It could well be more than a decade before there’s even an opportunity for such an honor. Well more.
Unanswered questions are far less dangerous than unquestioned answers.
Brindy’s jersey retirement is probably the last one for a really long time. EStaal should be playing for, what, at least 15 more years.
"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."
That's certainly not all he did.
He was a top offensive threats for years, and ranks among the franchise leaders in several categories.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 15, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's not forget
The successful run in 06 wasn’t the Canes only cup run Rod helped power. The BBC (Brind’Amour, Battaglia, Cole) line was arguably our most effective offensive threat in 02. That makes him a driving force in both our cup final runs.
Why, indeed
wilmnoca wondered aloud just why we were retiring Brind’Amour’s jersey number. Francis, yes. Wesley, okay. But, why yet another? Was it just because Brind’Amour happened to have been the captain of the team when they won the Cup?
No question, winnning the Stanley Cup was a huge, huge milestone for the org. As fans we’re spoiled to a degree by that relative early success. The hunger for the Cup never really had a chance to grow before it was ours.
That silvery thing that orgs absolutely lust for simply fell into our laps very early in our fan experience, after a good taste of it just four years earlier, dancing on a cleared dance floor with the pre-salary RedWings. Heck, in the last minute of regulation in Game 3, down 1 goal, series tied, they sent Yzerman, Hull, Shanahan, Federov, and Lidstrom over the boards to score the tying goal that sent us into triple overtime, where Hall-of-Famer Igor Larionov scored the winning goal past 1 a.m. from their frickin’ fourth line.
But, I digress.
For the guys that comprise our org, PK, JR, Francis, and the entire supporting cast that has been in hockey their entire lives, actually winning the Cup in 2006…not just playing for it, but winning it was a very, very big deal. Their names were going on the Cup.
And, as much as that kid with nerves of steel that stepped into our net had to do with winning that Cup, the org recognized that it was their Captain that willed that team to the finish line.
When we were down 0-2 to Montreal, at home no less, it was the Captain that by all reports said the words that needed to be said. And, when down 1-0 in the first few minutes of the third game, scored that all important equalizer to lead the comeback victory that led to four straight victories and a showdown with Jersey.
No player scored more goals than Brind’Amour for the Canes in those four playoff series. Staal had nine. Brind’Amour had twelve.
And Lavi has been quoted saying that after a closed door meeting following the beatdown of Game 6 of the Finals, after the heartbreaking loss in Game 5, it was Rod Brind’Amour that made the speech that Lavi said made it unnecessary for him to deliver his own prepared speech. After that, Lavi said, there was nothing more to say.
So, here’s a man who JR practically dragged into town with a pillow case over his head. An out-of-the-blue massive player-for-player trade of a disgruntled former captain of the Canes to the Flyers for their rock and fan favorite, Rod Brind’Amour.
A stunned player who landed in Raleigh and was shuttled back and forth through cow fields from Crabtree hotel to the arena and couldn’t wait to engineer his way out of town fell in love instead, decided to stay a while, grew roots, accepted the captaincy when Ron Francis retired, made that team his team, and led us to the Holy Grail.
He committed, mind, body, and soul to the Carolina Hurricanes. And that’s why his jersey is going up into the rafters on February 18th.
Drink it all in, because it’s going to be a very long time before another one goes up there to join his.
Unanswered questions are far less dangerous than unquestioned answers.
by Elsker on Jul 15, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Hell yeah.
It’s not just the cup, Roddy has done so much for this organization, and it’s been clear from the beginning that he provided a solidity and character to the locker room that’s unmatched. To say he doesn’t deserve to have his number retired here is just crazy, IMHO.
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by Raccoon Fink on Jul 16, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen Elsker
and i too agree that while the team retires his sweater…there is still lots to do and if JR is smart he’ll start when Rod & Bride return ..and then point him in the right direction and give him a shove…and Rod will get it done…
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I think Wilmnoca raises valid points
What are the qualifications for jersey retirement? Is it winning a cup? If it is, shouldn’t Pittsburgh have retired Francis’ jersey, not the Canes? Does it require winning multiple cups? It did in the past, but comparing a 6 team or 12 team league to a 30 team league is difficult at best. Is it being a good player for a number of years? Isn’t that what the hall of fame is for? If so, do all Hurricane hall of famers get their jerseys retired? Is it consistently leading a team to the playoffs? Well Brindy’s teams in Philly did that, but Lindros was the leader. Consistent playoff appearances is not something anyone would say about the Hurricanes. One could make a claim that jersey retirement should be for only those generational talents. I think that’s a valid thought. Captaining a Stanley Cup winning team is important, but that doesn’t make one a generational talent.
I love Brind’amour, but he is not a generational talent. If he put up similar stats in baseball he wouldn’t be a first ballot hall of famer. Not to take anything away from Brind’Amour, but for most of his career he wasn’t even the best player at his position on his own team. Lindross was better early in Brindy’s career and Staal is and was better late in Brindy’s career.
Personally, I’m in favor of retiring Brindy’s number. I think his on ice accomplishments coupled with his off-ice accomplishments are what has made this market remotely viable for a hockey team. However, I think Brindy is right on the border and is about the level of player for which the jersey retirement debate should be had.
Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?
I think I would agree with your assessment. In fact, applying the strict litmus test might make Wesley’s jersey questionable.
To me, what seems to be going on is more about icons from the first decade’s worth of establishing hockey in North Carolina that’s going up into the rafters. Retired warriors from the first incarnation of the Carolina Hurricanes.
Ron’s, as an org draftee, lost to the Penguins for a number of years, but the first big free-agent signing for the newly minted Canes that brought NHL-credibility and put a face on the franchise. Certainly he belongs in the rafters.
Glen I see as someone the org kidnapped from the Bruins with a high ransom price (3 first-rounders, for those that did not know), but became not only the anchor of the Whaler’s D-corp, but followed the org to Raleigh and became part of the fabric of city life and another face for the team.
So, his retirement and commitment to join the org as part of the brain trust probably earned him the level of respect required to have your number retired.
Brind’Amour’s credentials we’ve already covered, but I would agree with you that I would hope that since we now do have some numbers in the rafters, like a respectable NHL barn should, that we would be a choosy org for adding any new ones.
To me, the only candidate currently on the team is Staal, and that’s if he becomes a lifer and retires here. I don’t see anyone else at that level, unless Cam wins another Cup for us or something like that, becomes a lifer and retires here, as well.
One or two every generation seems about right for a pace.
Unanswered questions are far less dangerous than unquestioned answers.
I didn’t want to say that about Wesley’s number retirement, but I was thinking the same thing.
Think you’re spot on with the rest. Liked your original post too.
Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?
I agree with all of your statements Elsker, but I just think the bar has been lowered too much. We’re handing out jersey retirements like NTCs these days. Hopefully ( really no good way to say this ) we won’t retire one for awhile. But extremely valid points that at least make me see the sense in it. I joked about the verbal assault, but usually that’s what you get for posting something contrary to the majority. Isn’t this debate much more constructive?
Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.
I am agreeing the bar is a bit low right now.
Honestly, it’s probably driven by the need desire to actually have some numbers up in the rafters…sort of a seed crop, if you will.
Plus, especially with those three joining the brain trust it is perhaps deliberately symbolic that their numbers are also retired. Heck, maybe it was even negotiated as part of their contracts. :-D
But, I’m very much like you. There should, and I believe will, be a long period of time passing before we see another one retired.
All the more reason to soak this one in. There’s not often a chance for a fan to see his/her org retire a number right before his/her eyes.
Fifteen or more years could go by before Staal’s joins the group.
Unanswered questions are far less dangerous than unquestioned answers.
There are plenty of guys with numbers retired who didn't have HoF careers across sports.
I can think of Sam Mills and Dale Murphy just from my favorite teams.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 17, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
First off, Elsker, I loved and appreciated your previous comments.
My .02 on Brindy’s jersey retirement.
1. I LOVE Cam Ward, but IMO Rod Brind’Amour was the MVP of the 2006 playoffs.
2. The fact that he captained an NHL team, has a Stanley Cup (with the team he captained), and also won two league-wide awards with his back-to-back Selkes, legitimizes him across the league.
3. He won the Chiasson award five times, which means that during half of his on-ice tenure here his teammates thought he was their most valuable player.
4. He brought the state of North Carolina its first (and to date only) professional sports team championship.
But more than anything, Rod Brind’Amour is the biggest reason that today I’m such a passionate hockey fan and Canes fan. And that’s really reason enough for me.
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by LTD on Jul 16, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 17, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
List of NHL retired numbers
Here’s some interesting reading from Wikipedia, as long as we’re on the subject of retiring numbers and determining eligibility to do so.
Unanswered questions are far less dangerous than unquestioned answers.
I guess if we did retire 3 jerseys every 5 year, we’d run out of numbers to retire around 2160.
by Chuck Burns on Jul 17, 2010 1:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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