NHL Rejects Kovalchuk Deal After Lou Lamoriello Says "We Shouldn't Have These"
Just hours after Ilya Kovalchuk and the New Jersey Devils celebrated their star winger's new $102 million, 17 year contract with a press conference at The Rock, the league office rejected the deal and sent everyone into a tizzy. The length of the contract was an obvious attempt to reduce the cap number, but was it that much different from others already approved by the league?
Apparently, the NHL felt so. This anonymous quote was obtained by ESPN:
The contract was rejected because years of low salary at the end of the contract were added for the sole purpose of lowering the cap hit. The person added that no side believes Kovalchuk will play the final years of the deal at those terms. The star forward was slated to earn only $550,000 in each of the last five seasons of the contract that was to run through the 2026-27 season, when Kovalchuk would be 44.
Could Kovalchuk still be playing at age 44? Of course he could be. But would he be playing for an amount much lower than what the league minimum salary would be at that time? Of course not.
The funny part in all of this is that Jersey GM Lou Lamoriello almost admitted as much to the media after the press conference. "We should not have these" he said to the press, "but they are legal under the CBA." Apparently, Lamoriello did not take into account the stipulations in the CBA about intentional cap circumvention.
When asked why they made the deal, the GM blamed his boss. "You would have to speak to ownership about that", he replied.
While the contract is similar in structure to Marian Hossa's and a couple of others, it is longer and has a longer period of minimal salary at the end than any other. The NHL has decided to draw a line in the sand. What happens now?
My guess is that they will shave a few of the bogus years off of the end of the deal which will in effect raise the cap number to a more realistic number. We will see.
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NO expert or claim to be an expert but as soon as I saw the length I already knew it was going to be rejected..and the NJD’s owner knew better too! It makes the players of the devils look like jerks because they have a team owner who is running a circus…but sadly there are some people who thin the NHL is a circus !! Besides I’m more concerned about the Canes than NJ…The owner ought to be fined 5 grand a year over the years the contract was over…maybe the chucklehead will wake up ! Maybe…
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My question
If you were the head of the PA would you file a grievance or would you try to get Kovalchuk to restructure? Before you say grievance, remember that the arbitration ruling is binding and if the decision comes down against the contract there would be a firm precedent. Players would not get the chance to negotiate what the boundaries are or should be in the CBA process once a precedent is set. So, if you Donal Fehr do you file the grievance, hoping you’ll win based on the precedent of the Hossa, Zetterburg, Pronger, Franzen contracts or do you push for a resolution without going to arbitration so you don’t lose one of your biggest bargaining chips at the next round of negotiations?
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The question is if the NHLPA lawyers really think an arbiter will buy the argument that this isn’t circumventing the cap. And I think Lou’s remarks hurt them the most when it comes to this. When you’ve got the GM of the team that issued the deal essentially saying “Hey we pushed the rules as far as we could because we thought there was no way the NHL would come back on us” you’re gonna have issues.
I bet you see what Bob’s predicting, and the Devils take a couple years off the end, and get the term down to 12 or 13 years. Basically they’ll make it look more like Hossa’s deal and take a bigger cap hit.
by iamafirehazard on Jul 21, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Restructure. Without a doubt. For the reason you describe and then some others too.
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by Jamie Kellner on Jul 21, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad that NHL finally took action
Finally NHL did something instead f just looking at those front loaded very long deals. What would some next? 25 year deals for No. 1 draft picks?
These deals will end up hurting franchises in long run. What if Kovalchuk (or Hossa, etc.) will not retire, but will insist on playing until the end of contract? The team will be stuck with a high cap hit for a player that cannot contribute much anymore.
Players refusing to retire probably isn't the problem
A team like NJ could probably get someone like Nashville, the Islanders or at this point the Canes to take on one of these high cap hit but a low salary deals by the end of it. As long as every team is maxed out against the cap the players will be dumpable when they aren’t actually making the money. Sure they’d have to send a sweetener with it, but if the player worked out over the long run the team would have no regrets.
The bigger worry is injuries. Case in point: Rick DiPietro. Having a guy with a high salary who can’t stay healthy is way more of a problem. While the guy might retire when he’s got league minimums left, no one who can feasibly play is going to bow out just to keep his team from eating a couple million dollars.
by iamafirehazard on Jul 21, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I do not think we would take on such a player
if he still has multi-year contract. One year would be OK, but I cannot see any GM giving away financial flexibility, say, three years down the road when your team may get good and you would not be able to do a deal at the trade deadline.
Plus, he supposedly had a no movement clause as part of this contract, meaning he couldn’t be traded or sent down to the minors without his agreement.
He’s on their roster until he agrees to retire. Not even sure he can be bought out with the waiver option taken away (Brind’Amour example).
Unanswered questions are far less dangerous than unquestioned answers.
It was a no movement the first seven years, then a one year gap with no protection, then a no trade the last nine years of the deal. He could have been bought out during the no-trade portion.
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If you’re near the floor and have no intention of going near the cap I think you might take a few years, but not more than that. If you’re budget isn’t going near the cap no matter what who cares about what your cap hit is.
It is case specific, if you are a young team who is going to have to increase salaries to keep it together then no you probably won’t do it. But if you are just starting a rebuilding phase and are going young and cheap, then a guy with a big cap hit can help you get to the floor and won’t hurt you in the long run.
If you take the final 5 years (the really outrageous ones) off the deal; it becomes a 12 year, $99.25M deal = $8.27M cap hit. If you also take the $750K year off; the deal becomes an 11 year, $98.5M deal = $8.95M cap hit. Those cap hits are more in-line with the actual contract.
The funny thing to me is the first 2 years of the deal are quite a bargin, $6M per. Then it jumps to $11.5M. I saw an article that mentioned in 2 years, the Devils would have like 6 players making $42M (with Parise signing a $8M per contract). And the Devils are not a high revenue team (like Toronto or the Rangers). The article questioned how the organization would physically be able to pay this.
It almost seems to me that the owners worked this out with an idea the NHL would have another lockout in after 2012 and wouldn’t have to pay Kovalchuk. I know that’s just a theory, but it’s the only thing I could really come up with. Why pay him under market value these first 2 years, then pay him over market value when there has been talk about a possible lockout.
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I have said this before..but
many peeps in other aeas of america think we caniac fans are a bunch of dummies & hicks and don’t know squat about Hockey…i guess that is why like an unwanted step child the canes keep stepping on toes by doing what the team is told they can’t…just like we fans ..we do & accomplish alot where others think we can’t or don’t know how…and yes it’s ok to be smug !!! hehehe…great stuff and comments folks…keep it up…lets keep rubbing it in their faces !! hehehe !! have a good day folks..and yes…Be Safe !!
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Over at Behind the Net (the SBN Hockey stats blog), they’ve got some great graphs/charts showing how the Kovalchuk deal was beyond the limits of the previous 9 “quasi-circumvention” contracts.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 21, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions
Honestly...
I see no problem with the deal. They’d be paying him what he’s worth in those final years, and they are stuck with him…
Jim Rutherford is a moron.
That’s just it, they won’t be stuck with him. Since it wasn’t an over 35 deal he could have retired as opposed to playing for that much money and it wouldn’t have counted against the Cap for the Devils.
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Exactly, the shift from No Movement to No Trade is a big factor in this being a blatant cap circumvention deal.
First 9 years had No Movement, meaning no buy out no trade, nothing without Kovy’s approval, then year 10 had no clause, and years 11-17 had No Trade, which means what it says. They could still buy him out.
This deal had a BUILT IN TERMINATION FOR OWNERSHIP
by Iggy Reilly on Jul 21, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless he retires, then they aren’t stuck with him at all.
I’d have no issue with the deal as it was if the Devils had to honor all 17 years no matter what. From that perspective a rule that said any multiyear deal that took a player past, lets say 40, are subject to the 35+ retirement rule would make it the deals palatable.
by iamafirehazard on Jul 21, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe this is a stupid question with an obvious answer but why doesnt the cap hit equal the players pay for the year?
I think it should equal the salary for that particular season. If the league wants every team to be competitive (and I THINK? that’s what they want), that would be the most fair way to do that IMO. Look at Chicago; their in cap hell still. Just imagine if the cap was calculated by this upcoming season’s actual salaries.
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by PackPride17 on Jul 21, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The cap shouldn’t equal a player salary for one year because it can get abused even worse than the system as it is. The reason is it allows for backloaded terms that mean a team could stock up on talent in the short run. And other kinds of shenanigans.
For instance Chicago could have structured multi-year deals for a few of the players they had to trade away that averaged what the players expected but paid a lower amount for next year as a way to try and repeat. They would have had to blow the team up eventually, but theoretically it means you could stack a team with talent for a year or two before having to blow it up.
Or a team could issue a Kovulchuck like deal for a younger player, high pay early with a low end. That would make the guy really easy to unload to a top team in his last year. You wouldn’t have to worry about the cap hit to the team taking him on.
by iamafirehazard on Jul 21, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is though, most players want their money up front and don’t want to wait 4 years down the road for their big payday. Especially in a sport where an injury could wipe that big payday away real easy. I think a true “salary” cap would be a lot more fair that the current average system.
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I am Surprised that
NHLPA hasn’t "Officially’ said something as of yet…
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Said this above, but if the PA goes to arbitration and the arbiter rules against them then the PA will lose one of it’s biggest bargaining chips in negotiations. My bet is something gets worked out in the next five days (time PA has to file a grievance) and this gets pushed off to the CBA.
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Hey folks, this may be old news, but I’ve been off most media all day except ESPN Radio. ESPN is reporting that (per sources) Lou knew the NHL’s position before yesterday’s press conference. Anyone else heard that from anywhere else?
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Bettman allowed Lou to walk away from those two contracts a couple of years back with no penalty. Why shoudn’t he have thought his buddy would allow him to do anything he (or the ownership) wanted now?
As for the NHLPA, you mean there is one? If there was, they should be opposing this kind of deal more than anyone. Or do they actually represent the Chad LaRoses of the world?
Maybe what the players need is two unions — one for the superstars and one for everybody else.
Tangential to this discussion… a sad day for social media. :(
Apparently as a result of a Kovy tweet yesterday that was in poor taste (not uncommon for this particular tweeter), Paul Bissonette, aka @PaulBizNasty, has been deleted from twitter along with his legacy. Luckily for all, Puck Daddy has some records that he was able so salvage for the eulogy.
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