2009-10 Canes Country Exit Analysis: Patrick Dwyer
by Cory Lavalette on Jul 27, 2010 12:57 PM EDT
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PrintThe 2009-10 season was forward Patrick Dwyer's first chance to spend the majority of his year in the NHL. The 27-year-old forward brought a mix of speed, hustle and effort to the Hurricanes lineup, playing 58 games and logging more than 12 minutes of ice time a night. Heading into his sixth professional season, Dwyer is poised to battle for a full-time roster spot this upcoming campaign. But being on a two-way deal means Dwyer will again have to prove his worth to the Carolina front office and coaches to earn a position in the Canes lineup.
The Good: As a third- and fourth-line player last year, Dwyer was not only a useful role player but contributed at times offensively. His seven goals and five assists aren't eye-popping, but serviceable for a player in his role (for example, Chad LaRose played 58 games in 2007-08 and managed 11 goals and 12 assists in 14 minutes of ice time). He's an all-effort, hustle player who is happy to do anything on the ice. Dwyer's versatility also makes him an intriguing option for Carolina because he can play wing and center. His 119:32 shorthanded minutes were fifth among Carolina forwards and third among returning players (only Tom Kostopoulos and Brandon Sutter had more). His 108 hits were fourth among Hurricanes forwards and he took just three minor penalties all season. He has been relatively injury-free during his career.
The Bad: Dwyer is undersized, and he will never be confused with Ray Whitney when it comes to skill. While he is a decent penalty killer, he was on the ice for 14 power play goals against, tied for sixth most on the team and tied for third-most among forwards. His versatility is a plus, but he struggled mightily in the faceoff circle (78 wins in 224 draws, 34.8 percent), making his viability as a center a huge question mark. Given his likely minimal upside, would Carolina be better served playing one of their young prospects?
The Money: Dwyer is in the second year of a two-year, two-way deal that pays him $500,000 at the NHL level and $105,000 in the AHL. He will be an unrestricted free agent following the season.
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Dwyer is a poor man's Kevyn Adams
He is quick and a hustle guy, and can frustrate opposing players. He is an absolute steal for the money, I expect great things from him this year.
I really think he’s very similar to LaRose.
by Cory Lavalette on Jul 27, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
but
Without that 19 goal/31 point season under his belt. Surely Larose has a bigger upside…
IMO, everything went right for Chad that season. He won’t replicate that. I think Dwyer could get close over a full season … maybe 15 goals if things go his way.
by Cory Lavalette on Jul 28, 2010 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh...
Dwyer’s never been even much above-average as a scorer at any level. Don’t think he’s got anywhere near the offensive upside.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 29, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
heHehe
i was thinking the same thing & player too ! OMG…I think i need to go and get a glass of sweet tea…and ecover rom the shock…and i voted him a B as he did and preformed better than I expected…but to each his own…it’s raining here…as we like many of you in Wake County need it…Be Safe !!
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Patrick Dwyer and 2009-2010
I really thought Dwyer was a very pleasant surprise for the 2009-2010 season. I had heard previously that the Canes organization really liked him; and until this season, I hadn’t seen why particularly. This season I felt Dwyer played far beyond expectations. He did an excellent job on the penalty kill. He added speed and grit – despite being anything but huge. He has excellent speed and has fine hands. He also adds the element of giving 100% each shift, no matter the score and no matter which line he is on.
I think he is more of a natural wing than center; but I suspect he will see plenty of time this year for Carolina. If he got his scoring confidence up, he could shake things up a bit for 2011-2012 in terms of the roster. For the money, he is a steal, as Capt. Stinky noted.
wait
It looks like from the stats Cory posted he did at best a mediocre, not excellent job on the PK. I like role players, but I dont think we can say that Dwyer has exceeded much yet.
Dwyer on the PK
I will put Dwyer on the isocam for the pk as I watch videos. At this point I only have impressions.
I have heard Jim Rutherford, Peter Karmanos, Jason Karmanos, and Paul Maurice say they were impresed with Dwyer’s play. It is clear to to me the Canes organization thinks highly of Dwyer.
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C
Adequate performance gets an adequate rating.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
C
I don’t know if his numbers equate to excellant on the PK, but he filled a role well. I don’t see him any higher than 3rd line, and that only occassionally, unless he can upgrade his scoring. Still, for the price, he’s a good fit for the Canes.
Steady C
He’s likely gonna stick on the 4th line. I expect some of the yungins will compete well for his position. fence-sitter
5-11, 175 lb.s, 12 points in 58 games. Undersized energy guy with some grit and skill. I love him because he’s a Cane, but i had to give him a D. This franchise won’t move forward until players at this level become borderline 4th-line pieces. Yes, his contract fits the 10-11 budget. Yes, he’s been in the system for 6 years and we owe him some loyalty (another discussion). Until the Canes have talent enough that a player like Dwyer (a 4th-round pick of Atlanta) is less a projected part of the solution and more a minor-league depth guy the team will continue to nibble at the edge of the playoffs. I feel strongly that he’s gonna get nudged to Charlotte by the young talent.
I pretty much agree with your thoughts. I gave him a ‘C’. But really his job needs to be won away from him as a sign that the ’Canes have a fully stocked line-up.
by drifterscape on Jul 27, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Feel and voted the same way...
I have never really been impressed with him and I understand he was a 4th line guy but I don’t see the potential to become a “better than 4th line player” in him. I think he is kind of a road block to the young talent to a roster spot. I feel if a young talent was given same TOI as Dwyer than we would see better numbers and greater contributions. He is just OK at everything.
by Clemson Caniac on Jul 28, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
But we'd probably also see bigger mistakes and greater negative contributions.
He’s a steady guy, just the type you want in a fourth-line role who can go out, be responsible, and do any number of jobs while fulfilling his role.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 29, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Definitely not the best player on the team, but he was decent. Let’s be realistic here. We didn’t expect to see him make the big club last season and I’m not sure he did either. He did his job for the most part, and I think he’ll stick on our roster next year as the fourth line center.
C .....4th liners are 4th Liners
In the Canes system 4th liners need to be like Dwyer…..reasonably priced, gritty, serviceable. I would rather see Dwyer getting 7 to 10 minutes on the fourth than wasting young talent there or paying guys like Sammy $3M plus to get so few minutes. One day maybe we roll 4…not under MO..
2 years to the Cup
by Caniac233 on Jul 28, 2010 5:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rolling a Fourth Line
I think one of the key questions is whether the coaches will stick with a three line rotation and a 5 minute to 7 minute fourth line; or whether they will instead use all the weapons they have available and roll a fourth line. I agree it makes no sense to put a $2.9 million player on the fourth line, but Samsonov will have to show he can produce like a second or third line player. I’d much rather see the Hurricanes roll four lines.
I'd much rather see our best guys keep getting the majority of the minutes.
There’s a reason they’re on the fourth string.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 29, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Dodge
Dwyer gets a B from me because I thought they would bring up another center before him, so he technically exceeded my expectations. It is what it is.
I have a feeling next year will be Nick Dodge’s year to take over as checking-line center.
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