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Hurricanes Roster Waiver Map: How to get to Raleigh from Charlotte and back

 

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The Carolina Hurricanes relationship with its AHL affiliate is going to be a whole different animal starting this year. And I'm not talking Rats versus Polar Bears.

First and most obvious is proximity. In about 2 1/2 hours you can get there from here, and vice versa. A quick check around the league shows that several teams enjoy that sort of convenience including the Maple Leafs/Marlies (both in Toronto), Rangers/Hartford (CT) Wolfpack, the Bruins/ Providence (RI) Bruins, and the Penguins/WBS Penguins. In the Western conference, the Dallas Stars/Texas (Austin) Stars and the Blackhawks/Rockford Ice Hogs are among others, though it's not nearly as easy as in the northeast. How do the Los Angeles Kings plan call-ups when they have to anticipate travel to and from Manchester, New Hampshire? 

While the Carolina fans have been exploring the best ways to enjoy double the live hockey action, the Hurricanes management has also made it clear that many of the players will be "enjoying" the best of both worlds. Beyond learning the best strategy to get around Greensboro traffic on I-85, the other roadmap they'll be double checking is known as Article 13 of the CBA, titled "Waivers and Loans of Players to Minor League Clubs".

After the jump, I've put together a couple reference charts to see exactly how each player fits into the arrangement.

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Basically we can divide the players into two categories. 

1) Exempt from Waivers.

Players who are "Exempt" can be moved back and forth between the NHL and AHL teams without any waiting period, and more importantly without allowing their contracts to be "picked up" by another NHL franchise. One intention of the Waiver process is that it gives more veteran players a way out of their current team, if the parent team doesn't have room for them at the NHL level while another team might, the most familiar recent example being Michael Leighton. Players who are younger and/or have less NHL experience have not yet earned that privilege and pretty much get moved according to the needs of their club. The club has invested in their training and taken the risk that they will be full NHLers someday, and this ability to move their prospects back and forth without a hitch is part of the toolkit available to management in the development of younger players.

Here is the list of players who are exempt from waivers.

 

EXEMPT from WAIVERS (as of 9/25/10)
Pos  Name  NHL games     Age     Pro seasons 
(Gray cells indicate 2-way contracts)
F  Jared Staal 0 20 0
F  Zac Dalpe 0 20 1
F  Zach Boychuk 33 20 2
F  Riley Nash 0 21 0
F  Chris Terry 0 21 1
F  Drayson Bowman 9 21 1
F  Matt Kennedy 0 21 0
F  Brandon Sutter 122 21 2
F  Matthew Pistilli 0 21 1
F  Cedric McNicoll 0 22 1
F  Stefan Chaput 0 22 2
F  Oskar Osala 3 22 2
F  Nick Dodge 0 24 2
D  Michal Jordan 0 20 0
D  Brett Bellemore 0 22 2
D  Bobby Sanguinetti 5 22 3
D  Jamie McBain 14 22 2
D  Kyle Lawson 0 23 0
G  Mike Murphy 0 21 1

 

2) Eligible for Waivers (and Re-Entry waivers)

The CBA devotes a number of pages and examples to explain how to determine if a player is waiver eligible. As I said above, eligibility is earned after so many seasons as a pro, playing at either the AHL or NHL level, or sooner if more NHL games are played. It also varies according to the age a player was when he signed his first pro contract. 

There are two main kinds of Waivers written into the CBA: Regular Waivers and Re-Entry Waivers. An eligible NHL player is placed on Regular Waivers before being "loaned" to the team's AHL club. During the waiver period, that player maybe "claimed" by another club. The player's contract is then transferred to the new NHL organization exactly as written. Examples of Regular Waivers were seen with Stephane Yelle last October and even Aaron Ward in December. Neither were claimed, and after thirty calendar days/ten games both players remained on the NHL roster of the Hurricanes and the waivers expired. Back in 2008-09, Jussi Jokinen was placed on waivers twice by the Tampa Bay Lightning. He never was sent to Norfolk, but it indicated to the whole world of hockey that his services were no longer required.

Why bother, especially if the veteran player never goes to the AHL team? Certainly it is an effective way for management to clear salary or open a roster spot for a more qualified player, but perhaps the real use for a GM is to send a message to an under-performing player that not another team in the NHL has any need (or room) for him either, at least according to the terms of the existing contract. Ouch.

In Jokinen's case back in 2009, he was not claimed either time and so 'Canes GM Jim Rutherford then approached the Lightning with a trade offer (Wade Brookbank and Josef Melichar), which allowed Carolina to dump salary while in exchange, JR took Jokinen off the Tampa Bay club's hands. Well played, sir.

If management's intention is to send the player to the AHL club, that player cannot be sent down until after a one-day waiting period (assuming the player is not claimed). Interestingly, a player may request to enter into discussions with a competing club to determine what opportunities might exist elsewhere.

The second type of waivers we hear about is called "Re-Entry Waivers". Before a waiver-eligible player can be moved [back] up from the AHL to the NHL, he must be placed on re-entry waivers for 24 hours. Competing clubs can then "pick him up," this time claiming the player at 50% off. That is, the originating club is obligated to pay half the player's salary for the remainder of the term while the new club pays the player the remaining half. Again, this was what happened with Michael Leighton going to the Philadelphia Flyers in December 2009. This is also what "happened" to Sean Avery when he was no longer welcome in the Dallas Stars room and found himself back with the New York Rangers. 

This is where that road from Charlotte to Raleigh becomes a bit more hazardous for Rutherford. In the case of many prospects that are valuable to the organization, but are waiver-eligible, calling them up from Charlotte exposes them to the risk they won't ever make it to Raleigh. We have heard Rutherford refer to this when he signed Jiri Tlusty to a one-way contract in early June and when Brett Carson was signed to a two-way last week.

And because sometimes I see comments that confuse two-way contracts and waiver eligibility, keep in mind they have nothing to do with each other. Two-ways only refer to different pay scales depending on the level, and nothing more.

Two last items to keep in mind. The waiver process takes affect twelve days prior to the first game of the NHL Regular season. The Hurricanes first game is Noon EDT on October 7th. Counting backwards twelve days is September 25th, a Saturday. The pre-season schedule is packed that week for the Hurricanes, and this cut-off may be one reason why. While it's not clear to me if waiver-eligible players can be sent to Charlotte after that game in Atlanta which is the third in three days in three cities, (the ol' back-to-back-to-back), that may be a "weekend of significance" for the players listed on the chart below. 

The second footnote, building on a point I made at the top, is that not only do the number of years played determine waiver eligibility. The more you play with the top club, the faster you get there. Brandon Sutter has122 career NHL games after two years as a pro. He will become eligible when he reaches the 160 mark, which, if he plays all games, will happen January 3, 2011, before his 22nd birthday. While none of us can imagine he would ever be returned to Charlotte at this point, it's a nice reminder that he is indeed on the fast track.

Here is the list of players who are eligible for waivers. Of particular note are recent NHL regulars Brett Carson and Patrick Dwyer, AHL All-stars Justin Peters, Jerome Samson and Jonathan Matsumoto, and recent goalie acquisition Justin Pogge

 

ELIGIBLE FOR WAIVERS (as of 9/25/10)
Pos  Name  NHL games     Age     Pro seasons 
(Gray cells indicate 2-way contracts)
F  Jiri Tlusty 92 22 4
F  Jerome Samson 7 23 3
F  Nicolas Blanchard 0 23 3
F  Jon Matsumoto 0 23 3
F  Patrick Dwyer 71 27 3
D  Brett Carson 59 24 4
D  Casey Borer 16 25 3
D  Zack Fitzgerald 0 25 5
D  Brian Rodney 30 26 3
D  Jay Harrison 58 27 8
G  Justin Peters 9 24 4
G  Justin Pogge 7 24 4

 

The CBA waiver guidelines are predictably complex, and address the procedures for many unusual conditions. One in particular that we might see is that, in the event an injury or suspension prohibits the NHL team from playing a full 20-man roster, an "Emergency" call-up is allowed with modified rules that bypass some of these requirements.

 

Oskar Osala 2010-03-11_185_01

Oskar Osala is one player on a 2-way contract who benefits nicely when called up to the NHL club (photo by LTD)

 

More than Pride and Recognition

Finally, while from the outside this seems like it is all about career achievement, pride and every young hockey player's dream to play in the NHL, there is also another motivator for these kids on a two-way contract. Here's one more chart comparing dollars/game which, while simplified, shows that getting the call up to Raleigh is a pretty nice financial windfall for a young man. 

You might also note that those one-way contracts are conspicuous in the context of the Charlotte payroll.

 2010-11 Contract Comparison NHL salary NHL $/game AHL salary AHL $/game  Notes
 Forwards
 Jiri Tlusty  $500,000   $6,098   $500,000   $6,250 
 Jerome Samson  $500,000   $6,098   $105,000   $1,313 
 Jon Matsumoto  $500,000   $6,098   $105,000   $1,313 
 Patrick Dwyer  $500,000   $6,098   $105,000   $1,313 
 Zac Dalpe  $637,500   $7,774   $65,000   $813 
 Zach Boychuk  $787,500   $9,604   $65,000   $813 
 Riley Nash  $550,000   $6,707   $65,000   $813 
 Chris Terry  $625,000   $7,622   $65,000   $813 
 Drayson Bowman  $650,000   $7,927   $65,000   $813 
 Brandon Sutter  $787,500   $9,604   $65,000   $813 
 Stefan Chaput  $550,000   $6,707   $65,000   $813 
 Oskar Osala  $785,000   $9,573   $62,500   $781 
 Nicolas Blanchard  $500,000   $6,098   $60,000   $750   $75K guaranty
 Nick Dodge  $500,000   $6,098   $55,000   $688 
 Jared Staal  $550,000   $6,707   $50,000   $625 
 Matt Kennedy  $500,000   $6,098   $50,000   $625 
 Matthew Pistilli  $500,000   $6,098   $50,000   $625 
 Cedric McNicoll  $550,000   $6,707   $50,000   $625 
 Defensemen
 Jay Harrison  $500,000   $6,098   $500,000   $6,250 
 Brett Carson  $500,000   $6,098   $105,000   $1,313 
 Brian Rodney  $525,000   $6,402   $105,000   $1,313 
 Casey Borer  $500,000    $6,098   $65,000   $813   $75K guaranty
 Zack Fitzgerald  $500,000    $6,098   $65,000   $813 
 Bobby Sanguinetti  $765,000   $9,329   $62,500   $781 
 Michal Jordan  $550,000    $6,707   $60,000   $750 
 Jamie McBain  $600,000   $7,317   $60,000   $750 
 Brett Bellemore  $555,000    $6,768   $55,000   $688 
 Kyle Lawson  $500,000    $6,098   $50,000   $625 
 Goalies
 Justin Peters  $500,000    $6,098   $105,000   $1,313   $225k guaranty
 Justin Pogge  $500,000   $6,098   $85,000   $1,063   $105k guaranty
 Mike Murphy  $550,000    $6,707   $65,000   $813 

 

NB: There are numerous additional details and specifics to the waiver process contained in Article 13, and it isn't my intention to address all of them (or even suggest I understand all of them) with this primer. Hopefully it gives us all a reference to help predict the choices and consequences for this next season. Don't forget your seatbelt.

Thanks to Bob and Cory for their help, and the late arrival of Capgeek.com's beta-version Waiver calculator to confirm my findings.

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I don’t really have a comment, except that this is really, really cool. Thanks for putting it together!

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by Jamie Kellner on Jul 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes. This is very very informative.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 29, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another Superb Article

I really appreciate the time and thought you give to your articles. This one in particular is superb; but every one has been excellent. Very impressive work.

by abramsdoug on Jul 29, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes ! Yes! Yes !!

Very very very Good too by the way…and this should or ought to be very helpful fir many of the newer Caniacs to try and better understand what is and does go on when it comes to waviers & call ups…have a good afternoon & evening…:-} Be safe !!

And if it Aint Hockey,It Aint Nothin !!
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by CaniacSteve on Jul 29, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Great stuff here HMO2 … super informative.

One thing I’m not sure on is how the cap works in regards to call-ups and send-downs. I’m not sure it’s by a “by game” status but rather a “by day” status. I believe it’s by day, and that’s why you see some teams send guys up and down between games (think the Flames were doing this some two years ago … or maybe the Ducks. Can’t recall who) in order to maximize their cap space.

by Cory Lavalette on Jul 29, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it is on a by day basis as well. Also, Hawks did it last year with Jack Skille.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 29, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suspected as much on the way to break down salary, but still, if a player is up for a few games, rather than a one-and-done, or whatever the arrangement is, it’s still a big jump for a 21 year old kid. Glad you brought it up.

I’m still looking for an explanation of how they’re paid during the playoffs. That’s pretty intriguing to factor in the way it’s handled and doled out.

Twitter @HMof2

by Carolyn Christians on Jul 29, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think they are … lol. They get a playoff share.

by Cory Lavalette on Jul 30, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you very much for taking the time to explain the complicated (to me at least) waiver/no waiver situations.

Oh – and I just LOVE that picture of Osala!

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

Count Down to the Hurricanes '10-'11 Season!

by Cyn4Canes on Jul 29, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Hockeymom, you are you my favorite. I’ve been wondering about this confusing waver process for a long time (it helps make sense of a lot of the roster moves) and you helped answer almost all of my questions.

There’s only one thing I’m wondering which your post didn’t address directly (or I’m dense and just couldn’t figure it out, which isn’t unheard of): If a waiver-eligible player is assigned to the AHL squad before the process takes effect on September 25, would that player have to be placed on re-entry waivers in order to be called up to the NHL team?

Two gold stars if you know the answer to that one, thanks again.

by Kubota on Jul 29, 2010 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

no problem - great question.

13.3 of the CBA says
"A Player who requires Regular Waivers may not be Recalled without first clearing Re-Entry Waivers, in accordance with Section 50.9(g) of this Agreement."

HM’s answer. Yes. Re-Entry waivers are required for all Waiver Eligible players. This is not related to whether they start the season at the NHL or AHL level. The term "Re-Entry" sounds like it’s contingent on the other, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

Twitter @HMof2

by Carolyn Christians on Jul 29, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And, thanks Kubota for the high praise. Glad you enjoy the blog. I don’t know how I could have been an informed (and therefore interested because the background stories make it so much more fun) if I hadn’t found Canes Country a couple years ago.

Twitter @HMof2

by Carolyn Christians on Jul 29, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent HMof2! This is a great one to keep in the “reference” folder for the middle of the season when us less than cooler people can’t remember these things :)

RAKASTAN SUOMEN!!

by danicanes on Jul 29, 2010 8:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i always thought two way meant they werent waiver elligable. interesting.

"a bit of love"

by chrisj on Jul 29, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

It just means they get paid differently depending on where they play.

by Cory Lavalette on Jul 30, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow! Could you now explain Einstein’s Theory of Relativity? I think they are comparable

by JCLowe on Jul 29, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

better google maps link

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=1400+Edwards+Mill+Road+Raleigh,+NC+27607-3624&daddr=333+East+Trade+Street,Charlotte,NC+28202&geocode=FTFSIgId5MpO-ykLyaKzPfSsiTExR968MSxOfg%3BFQt-GQId-nwu-ylRsL8-JKBWiDF9J2hdY2_zAg&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=35.650601,-79.782715&sspn=1.66492,2.949829&ie=UTF8&z=9

This URL has the 3 main driving options.. I like the country route myself

by canesice on Jul 30, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks and welcome to the site!

I usually prefer taking 64 to 49 myself, but I leave from the south side of town.

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by Bob Wage on Jul 30, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like this route as well – avoids some of the mess at the 40/421/70/85/hike death valley intersection

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

Count Down to the Hurricanes '10-'11 Season!

by Cyn4Canes on Jul 30, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very nice job by HM to attempt to simplify a sometimes complicated and convoluted process. And we will be linking to this article from the left sidebar under the “Canes Related” section for future reference.

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by Bob Wage on Jul 30, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

take the train...

what is the train route from raleigh to charlotte

by zippy8 on Jul 30, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I just realized why I like HM’s map so much. That map is “my home”. Born and raised in Asheboro, partied and worked in Greensboro growing up, came to Raleigh for college, and then lived in Charlotte 13 years before heading “off the map” to our nation’s capital for awhile before moving back here to Raleigh.

I live in the Apex/Holly Springs area and always take 64 to Siler City to 421 to Greensboro (and from there I-85 to Charlotte).

Bob, you really prefer 64 to 49? I always feel like traveling through Asheboro on Highway 64/Dixie Drive is such a zoo (no pun intended).

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by Jamie Kellner on Jul 30, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

either 64 to 49 or 64 to 85.

but you’re right, Ashboro is a zoo. :-)

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by Bob Wage on Jul 30, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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