Riley Nash to skip senior season at Cornell?
by wuffy on Jul 5, 2010 10:06 PM EDT
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A recent article has new Hurricanes prospect Riley Nash talking on plans of his future after he attends the summer prospects camp this week. Hopefully Pete Friesen won't run the kid into the ground while the team brass does the sale-job on leaving Cornell.
Nash is confident that when the time comes, he’ll be able to play with the big boys.
“I can definitely play with top-end guys,” Nash says of his progress over his three seasons at Cornell, which is located in Ithaca, N.Y. “I’m a two-way player so I feel I can take what they do best away and then counter-punch that with my offensive ability. I’m bigger, stronger . . . I don’t get pushed around nearly as much and as easy.”
Nash leaves Kamloops on Tuesday, headed for Raleigh, N.C., and the Hurricanes’ summer camp, where he will get a chance to “see their guys and see what they have in store.”
Then, he says, “I’ll probably decide after that . . . if I’ll head there or go back to school.”
It is a rather huge decision.
“A Cornell degree is a pretty powerful thing in today’s work force,” says Nash, who is studying applied economics and management. “Jobs not being all that abundant, it means that much more. It’s not something you just give up easily.”
If he chooses to return to school, though, he’ll have to go it alone. Perhaps the main reason that Nash chose to attend Cornell was the presence of Brendon, a defenceman who signed an NHL deal with the Montreal Canadiens after completing his senior year.
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Great find. Appreciate it.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 5, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Great Work Finding that Aricle
Nash really would be a superb addition to the Checkers. It would speed up his development for the Canes if he played in the AHL this year.
I wouldn't be shocked to see him in Raleigh by the end of the year.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting——-but sorry guys. As a parent I would be upset if my child got that far along in College——and quit before he finished his last year. ! Hockey or not. Hockey is a short career.
GO CANES! Go Heels!
Mixed Mind on this Issue
I have four boys. One graduated from law school. One is in law school. One is at UNC, and one is a rising senior. I am interested in your comments, but I have a very mixed mind. Cornell is an excellent school; and as a parent I think I would advise Nash to finish his degree. On the other hand as a parent, I can also see myself telling Nash to chase his dream and then write me a contract promising to go back to school when his career ends. I would tell him he has only good choices; and I probably would tell him life passes by fast and youth is gone far too soon.
If my son had a legit shot to play in the NHL I’d tell him to go, he can always finish school later. When you look at what he’ll make even at the league min. it doesn’t make sense to stay in school (if it’s about the money). Even if he never gets out of the AHL, he’s only got a year left which he can finish anywhere. If he stays is it’s one less he gets to play professionally and with the avg. career lastly only five years he’s really rolling the dice.
Actually...
You usually can’t transfer to a school as anything more than a junior. If he doesn’t want to spend two more years, he’ll need to finish at Cornell.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
Cornell is a great school and a college education is an investment for a life time. But not too many jobs out there even with a Cornell degree that pay you $500K+ to start and where you have a limited window age wise to provide the service. The average pro hockey career is about 6.5 years. So there will be a lot of years thereafter to finish an education and work on your next career. And if you are smart you will have saved a chunk of cash which will provide loads of options for the next phase in your life.
Using Steve Halko as an example, you can also do both. There is a lot of down time on planes and hotels where you can take a class at time to complete your senior year. That way when you retire to can immediately move on. Steve did exactly that and joined the financial services industry right after retirement armed with a degree he finished while still playing.
As a parent...
You should also know that he can always go back and finish his degree if hockey doesn’t work out.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Bret Hedican was tweeting about finishing some college classes a couple weeks ago. Wonder if that’s what he’s doing?
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 7, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel that
and have said in the past…let the kid finish college first…and i agree as a parent & grandparent who put 4 kids and now 2 grandkids through college ( and NO loans or debts either !!) it would be a grave mistake to pressure him to quit…why ?? If the canes truely wants what is best for their prospect…then let the kid be and IF he wants to quit it will be his choice …not some arm twisting session that would cause such a thing…but i’m an old guy who loves Hockey…what would I know ?
And if it Aint Hockey,It Aint Nothin !!
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They should clearly know that won't work.
The kid has already resisted three years worth of overtures from the Oilers. He’ll get to do what he wants.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Both...?
I realize playing hockey is a full-time and tiring career, so clearly taking classes at the same
time would be very tough, however doable. during the summer it would be easier to study, and to finish one year of classes, shouldn’t take many years. the sooner you finish school the better!!
Come on out Riley, you’re farther ahead than some of those thugs in the NBA that didn’t set foot on a college campus.
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
Is that any different...
From “thugs” in the NHL and MLB who did exactly the same to further their career and make some money? Or “thugs” in the NFL who were “students” in name only?
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Just saying there’s more of them in the NBA than in the NHL, no argument possible. Moses Malone, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Jermaine Oneal, Mcgrady, Lewis, Chandler, Diop, Lebron, Perkins, Howard. I can’t speak for NFL or MLB, but you can’t deny young hockey players are light years ahead of young NBA or NFL players on a maturity scale.
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 7, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this is a little humorous considering the NBA actually requires students to go to college for a year while NHL and MLB kids get drafted and can play basically out of high-school.
Personally the MLB seems by far the worst to me in this regard…
I think..
from my research that they implemented the college rule in 2005, but the age requirement may have been around for years before that
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 7, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
According to Wiki:
There is no mention of one year of college, but one year removed from high school, in addition to being 19 years old.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eligibility_for_the_NBA_Draft
orly?
gotcha, lol
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 7, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
This is correct.
At least a couple players have gone to the NBDL in the year after they graduated, and Brandon Jennings even went to Europe.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What exactly makes those players "thugs?"
If’ you’re going to throw around borderline racist terms like that, you might as well have something to substantiate it.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Kobe Bryant, Iverson, Rasheed Wallace, Kidd, Marbury, Griffen, Stackhouse, Billups, and more all spent 2 years or less in college, and all have arrest records! There are even more out there, Arenas, and in the NFL: Jamarcus Russell, Ricky Williams, and even Barry Bonds from baseball. You can’t deny that the NHL carries the most mature athletes! Just look at the biggest stars in the NHL! How often do you see them in the news for criminal acts?! NEVER! Crosby, Ovi, Stamkos, Miller! Besides P. Kane and his incident, hockey players come from good backgrounds and are brought up to be respectable young men. There is nothing racist about that, open your eyes! Can you not see that the MLB, NFL, and especially NBA are smeared with a taint of crime and dishonesty?
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 7, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, an arrest record is enough to make somebody a "thug?"
I guess that makes our own Eric Staal a thug, in addition to his brother Jordan. And how about Mike Danton? Did he come from a good background? Or was part of his upbringing skip the part where you don’t hire somebody to kill for you as a “respectable young man?” Mark Hardy, arrested for a sex crime…against his own daughter! Bob Probert, frequent drug user, John LeClair, Chris Chelios, Nikolai Khabibulin, Jay Bouwmeester, Alexi Zhamnov, Ken Daneyko, Bobby Hull, DUIs all. And that’s not even as bad as Heatley and Chiasson. They made their choice to drive drunk, and somebody didn’t come back.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
A thug can be white, black, pink, yellow, brown. The things they got arrested for make them thugs, possession of weapons and drugs, sexual offenses, I’m sure all of those DUI’s didnt kill someone. I know Khabibulin’s didnt, it was a routine traffic stop felony. Look, the point is, you can believe what you want. You’ve got your opinion and I’ve got mine, I’m not changing my opinion because the fact is, more NBA, NFL, and MLB players make the news for the wrong reasons than NHL, and try again before deeming a term as racist, a thug can be whatever you make it to be, it’s how you interpret it good sir.
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 7, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Who said Khabibulin killed someone?
That’s not even as bad as Heatley and Chiasson. They made their choice to drive drunk, and somebody didn’t come back.
Reading is FUNdamental!
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
No, an arrest record alone does not make someone a thug. Society is full of good people who have a criminal history…good people who made poor decisions. A momentary lapse of judgement is not the same thing as going through life constantly making the same decisions over and over, not giving a damn how it affects everyone else.
I'm certainly aware of that.
I’m not the one claiming the NBA is full of them while all other professional athletes are pure as the driven snow.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? When used with the NBA? You’re asking how thug is borderline racist? Find me one anglo in any of the lists of players.
Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?
by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Respectfully
I could have used a more politically incorrect term, but I chose one that could be applied to any race. A thug is defined as a ruffian or hoodlum: which could apply to anyone. Jason Kidd was arrested, he’s white, I included him in the thug discussion. Had I used the term, “porchmonkey.” or “spook”, I would accept that I had used a racist term, but I have not.
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 7, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
No, actually, he's not.
Jason Kidd’s father was an African-American, making him, at best, biracial.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay..
So he’s part white. You seem to have an answer for everything, but the awesome thing is this is my opinion and you can bang your head against this brick wall all you want, I won’t stop coming back with something because I think NHL players are the model of character, and no amount of witty comments will change that, back off.
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 7, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not doing any banging.
I just think you’re incredibly naive. But take your favorite sport and anoint its players; truth is, there are bad apples in any bushel.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough, sorry to get hostile, im extremely stubborn .,
Very good debate from two sides, yes? lol
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 7, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re best argument is that you didn’t use one of those terms above that I won’t bother to re-type. Really?
Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?
The bottom line is these are just people’s opinions, and no racist terms were used, case is closed.
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 8, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW C, shall we close the race talk? tears people apart.. lol. that, politics, and religion. sorry if i came across as rude before.
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 8, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t gonna comment anymore. But I’ll say this. The problem with this sort of conversation is that the two most intellectual people in the world can talk for hours, both making valid and reasonable points. But the conversation is doomed to go nowhere. Having this conversation on a forum such as this makes it even worse. One person can make a tongue-in-cheek remark, and another will get offended because the meaning was misinterpreted. You simply can’t “read” attitude. I’m not saying that was the case here so don’t think I’m finger pointing at anyone. I’m just saying the potential for such a mistake is there. Having said that…how about this heat, huh?
unbearable
the heat anyway. =p gotta stay indoors.
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
by truheelzfan44 on Jul 8, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
But that was a recent change I think, 2005 if I’m not mistaken, there were tons of prep to pro’s before that though
-Cory- LETS GO CANES.
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