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Joe Corvo Returns to Canes, Signs Two Year Deal

The Carolina Hurricanes brought back a familiar face to the blueline as they signed Joe Corvo to a two year deal today.  The contract will pay Corvo $2 million in 2010-11 and $2.5 million in 2011-12.  

The defenseman was dealt to the Washington Capitals on deadline day in early March for Brian Pothier, Oskar Osala, and a second round draft pick in the 2011 draft.  (Recently traded to the New York Rangers in the Bobby Sanguinetti deal).   

Obviously, Corvo gave the team a bit of a hometown discount as he took a cut in pay from his previous contract.  

More after the jump:

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This from the team presser:

"Joe has been a really good player for us over the last three seasons, and we feel that this solidifies our defense," said Jim Rutherford. "We appreciate him working with us to get this deal done. He said that he really wanted to stay in Carolina and this commitment confirms that."

 

Corvo, 33, split the 2009-10 season between Carolina and Washington, totaling six goals and 12 assists (18 points) in 52 games played. The Oak Park, IL, native missed 28 games from Dec. 5 until Feb. 1, after being cut on the lower-right leg by a skate in a game against the Capitals on Nov. 30. Prior to the injury, he ranked first among Hurricanes and eighth in the NHL in average ice time per game (25:33). Corvo (6’0", 204 lbs.) was traded to the Capitals on March 3 in exchange for defenseman Brian Pothier, center Oskar Osala and Washington’s 2011 second-round draft selection. He had a goal and an assist during the Capitals’ seven-game Eastern Conference Quarterfinal series against Montreal.

 

Originally drafted by the Los Angeles Kings in the fourth round, 83rd overall, of the 1997 NHL Entry Draft, Corvo has totaled 68 goals, 150 assists (218 points) and 186 penalty minutes in 486 career games with Los Angeles, Ottawa, Carolina and Washington. He has five goals and 13 assists (18 points) in 45 career Stanley Cup playoff games. He matched career highs in goals (14) and games played (81), led Carolina blueliners in points (38) and ranked first among NHL defensemen in game-winning goals (6) in 2008-09, his only full season with the Hurricanes.

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whoa !!!

so that means no carson,potheir or pickard either…hehehe…so whre does that leave McBain ? will he be teamed up with Gleason or will he get sent back to charlotte ?

And if it Aint Hockey,It Aint Nothin !!
That Checkers 3rd Sweater ROCKS !!!

by CaniacSteve on Jul 7, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

mcbain will play 3 pairing

"a bit of love"

by chrisj on Jul 7, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t say I’m excited about the recycling… But on the other hand Corvo is better than anyone I thought they would get. Although, knock on wood, I believe I said the same thing about Aaron Ward last off-season when we acquired him.

I guess the Marc Staal rumors are dead now though. That’s sad.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

If you think about it, in the end we just rented out Corvo to Washington for the remainder of last season and in return we got Osala and Sanguinetti. Not a bad deal.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

HELL of a deal!

But I guess we were due after the Weight deal.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can ANYONE say the Weight deal was bad???? They got some good picks and we got the CUP!!! We played in two game 7’s that year. Both championship game 7’s. It would be hard to argue that we would have done that w/o the leadership Dougie brought.. In game 7 of the ECF we where down 2-1 in the third and DW scored the tying goal.

I hated the deal then, but have loved it ever since.

by CarolinaCanes on Jul 8, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good points.

I just didn’t like the hit to Sutter. That is the only bad thing I have to say about Weight. If we get the Cup, I will make that deal everytime. Shows how smart JR is………

by KenRab on Jul 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I understand that.

But they certainly profited greatly from it, and got him right back. Matthew Corrente wouldn’t look bad in a ‘Canes sweater, huh? And Cade Fairchild would be a good kid to have in the system, too. Plus, Weight’s shoulder kept him from contributing to the game that won us the cup.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 8, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Corrente and his 0 points in the NHL? Cade Fairchild? Really? You’re upset these two guys aren’t Canes? You would have rather had Doug Weight go elsewhere, say Buffalo? Drury, Briere, and Weight would have been very difficult down the middle. Might have been able to make up for the lack of D in game 7. Might have kept the Canes from coming back in game 2. And for that you want Matt Corrente and Cade Fairchild? Really?

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 8, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't say it didn't work out,

But a system starved for depth in NHL-ready players, particularly defensemen, could use guys like that, and those are among the players we sacrificed. Sorry if you’re not aware of them because they’re non-Carolina prospects, but both are likely to have a long and prosperous NHL future.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Corrente is forward depth, the Canes have plenty of that. Fairchild can be replaced by any number of minimum contract guys. Those guys aren’t depth so much as they’re warm bodies.

Also, please don’t talk down to me again unless you want the same treatment in return.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 9, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny, that Corrente is "forward depth."

Especially given that he was drafted as and has continued to be a defenseman (one with potential top-pair, shutdown ability.) I also don’t know where you’re going to find a 21-year-old defenseman with second-pair upside for a minimum contract. If those guys are “warm bodies,” then so is every defenseman on our freakin’ roster outside of Pitkanen and Corvo.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently I was looking at the wrong players reviews about Corrente. You’re still operating under the assumption that JR would have selected these players, or would have been picking at the same position without Weight. I don’t think that’s a valid assumption.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 9, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm operating under the assumption that we surrendered valuable commodities to get a VERY short-term rental.

Frankly, I don’t see how you can argue that.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you on the fence on this one. I hate the constant recycling, but Corvo is a lot better than I thought we could do. The hometown discount was a nice move on his part.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jul 7, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gleason – Corvo
Pitkanen – Babchuk
McBain – Sanguinetti

Five offensive D and Gleason… At least our PP should be damn good. I can’t even really figure what pairings they would use. Just my speculation, but a 2-year deal for Corvo doesn’t sound to great for Pitkanen’s future with all the offensive D we are sitting on.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Corvo has better D than some people (myself included) sometimes give him credit for, but I would have liked to sign a pure defensive D-man who would help Gleason out in the grind it out part of the game. I guess that’s not happening. Poor Timmy. Poor Cam. And just say no to the Pits-Babs pairing. That scares me to death.

At least our PP should be damn good.

One can only hope.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jul 7, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

We won’t have to worry about Cam getting bored and out of the flow of the game though.

by dgoose on Jul 7, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. That’s true.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jul 7, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gleason and Corvo were great together in the playoffs in ’09 but I feel like Corvo is a little better in his own end then Pitkanen so the pairings might change to make them a little more even. Gleason allows Pitkanen to free lance a little more which he is prone to do.

Gleason – Pitkanen
Corvo – Babchuk
McBain – Sanguinetti

by dgoose on Jul 7, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not likely to happen.

JR called a Corvo-Gleason pairing “almost automatic.”

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

(see below)

http://www.canescountry.com/2010/7/7/1557190/joe-corvo-returns-to-canes-signs#41474601

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pits and Gleason have rarely been paired together. They don’t seem to mesh well.

"He has all the virtues I dislike, and none of the vices I admire." -Sir Winston Churchill

by Swenksta on Jul 7, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

not at all, I agree with that 100%

"That’s what happens when you suck" - Tim Gleason

by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strong and silent type

When Gleason was our guest at the Hurricanes luncheon, among the things he shared with us was that he liked to have a partner that talked to him on the ice.

Such a partner would not seem to be Joni Pitkanen.

by Elsker on Jul 7, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully this “Recycle” leads to more answers than question: Tim and Joe play as a pairing.

by Clarkey on Jul 7, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corvo isn’t exactly the shut down type the team needs, but he is solid, and the price is definitely right. The back end on the PP is looking solid with Joni, Corvo, McBain, and Babchuk. Should also help getting the puck out of the zone, helping to spring some of the forwards.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

MikeSundheim We’ll be announcing a couple of two-way contracts shortly as well.

by TylerA7707 on Jul 7, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Raleigh is a funny town

its not like any other NHL city, but we seemed to have a hold of people once they live here for awhile

i moved here in ‘85 and haven’t left

weird stuff

by zippy8 on Jul 7, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

True dat.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, me too. Call me a damn Yankee. But, at least I can merge.

Go Canes!

by ivyleager on Jul 7, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great move

I really like Corvo he’s a quiet Dman which means he’s a solid Dman. Who would’ve thought Whitney could’ve learned something from Corvo. Good discount to come play where you love!

Carolina Hurricanes! Your 2011 Stanley Cup Champions!

by canescup on Jul 7, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I had the same thoughts about Whitney. I got a little moisture in my eyes reading the fine things Corvo was saying in today’s interviews about my hometown and what it’s like to play for this organization.

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

Count Down to the Hurricanes '10-'11 Season!

by Cyn4Canes on Jul 8, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whitney and Corvo

   I, too, had the reaction of feeling that Whitney is making a mistake by going for cash over community. At the end of the day, Whitney would have been able to support his family well on the salary the Hurricanes were prepared to spend; even if less than the Coyotes were willing to pay. Life is about choices; and I don’t begrudge Whitney his choice. I do respect Corvo greatly for taking the road of personal values over personal profit. I don’t judge Whitney poorly for his decision and understand it is one of the reasonable choices available. As somebody who knows him and his wife just a little, I worry for both of them that they might find Phoenix to be a less desirable place for them than they might think. I hope I am wrong and that they and their family love Phoenix; and that Ray has great success for the Coyotes.

by abramsdoug on Jul 8, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

People here are making a lot of assumptions that I don't like.
  • Phoenix is every bit the good market for families that the Triangle is. Look at some of the interviews with Coyotes veterans during the Balsillie saga; they love raising their kids there. Plus, Ray’s family home is outside Edmonton — less than half the flight time to PHX compared to RDU, and direct flight options. So the family argument isn’t even close to a solid win for the Triangle.
  • State income tax in AZ is barely over half what he’d pay in NC. That’s not trivial.
  • I don’t think JR had comparable money to spend on a forward given the cap-floor budget the Canes are looking at. I wonder whether JR knew at the deadline about PK’s plans to put the Thewes estate share on the market; I think that would have increased the urgency of a Whitney deal.
  • At RW’s career stage, he has to assume every contract is his last, and it’s a fair assumption he’d like to win the Cup again. The Yotes were a playoff team last year, and a young one that should improve next year. The Canes’ maximum upside this year is probably what the Yotes did last year.

I think JR made the right decision not offering Whitney that kind of money*term, and I think Ray made the right decision taking Phoenix’s offer. Good luck to him, unless we see him in the Finals.

That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters in 1997 didn't see any of this coming.

by JoshCVT on Jul 8, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"Urgency of a Whitney deal?"

He was plenty urgent! Hell, he got a deal done! But Whitney’s spoiled, selfish ass refused to move on in a way that actually brought anything back to a franchise he professed to care about.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously? A young group like we are skating up front, don’t you think our emphasis should be on getting more grit and defensive stability in the back end, not another pmd?

by wylde4canes on Jul 7, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, but for the price I’m not sure the Canes could have gotten that.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

me neither

Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

by anonymousJ on Jul 7, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blanchard, Borer ???

Thats not exciting……….

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by canescup on Jul 7, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

agree, just glad it is 2 way deals…

by max creek on Jul 7, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

However...

Both are solid depth, and if we can continue to add that affordably, that’s not a bad thing.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Signing..

I like the move, puts a missile shot on each D pairing…. and as stated above, the PP is looking nice, and we can all admit it was very anemic this past season.

by max creek on Jul 7, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Big shots......

Big shots really open up the ice…..With these shots from the point, Eric Staal will be wild and free this year, look for a big season from this Captain….

by KenRab on Jul 7, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets hope it’s the whole season and not just the first part with an ASG bid on the line…

by max creek on Jul 7, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blanchard and Borer both signed to two-way deals. Blanchard for two years, Borer for one.

Will post more about those later.

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by Bob Wage on Jul 7, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess I was hoping Sanguinetti would fill Corvo’s role. I question what this means for 1) Sanguinetti next year and 2) Pitkanen’s future. Sanguinetti is well known for being an offensive minded D, very capable of PP work. Though with the Corvo pickup, it seems like we have created a big logjam in that department. The 2 years was probably part of the negotiations, but I have to question what that means for retaining Pitkanen. Especially with the aforementioned logjam.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

One dman will be hurt almost the whole year anyway........

We need depth….now we have it. Pitkanen may discount us too…..

by KenRab on Jul 7, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly hope so or hope that the management is smart enough to pay him what he’s worth.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we can expect Pitkanen to have about 10 times the interest from other teams that Corvo did, unfortunately.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corvo is certainly cheap enough to move.

Either when we fall out of contention or when the young guys prove they can handle the load.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is a very attractive contract for us for our Budget and for bargaining with other GMs.

by Clarkey on Jul 7, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hand it to Joe. He said he wanted to play here———and he proved it !!

He and Timmy were a great shut-down pair against great offenses last year
so I feel great about that. I worry about Pit with Babs though. Maybe JR is not done
yet !

GO CANES! Go Heels!

by UNCCaniac8 on Jul 7, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

TRUE

"a bit of love"

by chrisj on Jul 7, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

pitkanen mcbain

babchuk sanguinetti

"a bit of love"

by chrisj on Jul 7, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

JR has already said Babchuk has the edge over McBain for a top-four spot.

to start the year, anyway.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was hard to get a read on Joe...

He never really said that he loves this place………that I heard. I guess he was thinking it all along.

This is good stuff. We were going to miss the playoffs last year anyway, you rent a player out for a couple of months, get a couple of really nice prospects for him then resign the guy for under market price. Damn.

by KenRab on Jul 7, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I'd always gotten that vibe.

When Corvo’s had problems somewhere, they’ve been obvious — Ottawa in particular. We never saw that from him here in stint 1, and he was here long enough for that stuff to surface if it was going to.

The read I always got from him is that he wanted to be (a) left alone by media/public to do his job in peace and (b) trusted by the coaching staff to do it; if both happened, he’d be cool. Raleigh has a distinct appeal to players like that — players aren’t totally anonymous, but nor are they and their families likely to be harassed.

(For the record, I would sorta rather had Pothier at a notch cheaper — I think the need was in our own end. We’ve got four bombers in our top six. At this price, though, I’m OK with Corvo, knowing that he’s movable.)

That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters in 1997 didn't see any of this coming.

by JoshCVT on Jul 7, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

My only issue with Pothier is the head injury history. He may have been a notch cheaper, but he may very well have taken a hit and been out all season. Not to say Joe is immune to injury, but I think it’s a higher probability with Pothier than with Corvo.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure I saw a report of Corvo and Cole working out together a couple of weeks ago. I had a feeling he might want to come back after that report but I did’nt think he would fit into the budget.

by dgoose on Jul 7, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mentioned that on 99.9 the fan yesterday I believe.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wondered the same thing.

Go Canes!

by ivyleager on Jul 7, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just on his skating. Not his hands.

by dgoose on Jul 8, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am very pleasantly surprised. I didn’t think he was going to come back, and yep, that sure worked out great as a rental!

by PittsburghCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

From CH.com:
Rutherford said he now feels he has four defenseman who are capable of scoring at least 30 points next year in Corvo, Pitkanen, Anton Babchuk and Jamie McBain. He called a pairing of Corvo and Gleason "almost automatic" for next year based on its past success, but said other pairings and personnel would not be sorted out until training camp.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Our D 2 years ago (similar minus McBain) was the highest scoring D in the league behind Florida I believe, probably a significant reason we made it to the Playoffs and ECF. Too bad we only have 1 D that can put someone like Ovechkin on their ass (Gleason).

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given the NHL experience our forwards have, I doubt that will be happening. Maybe in a year. Every Rookie takes their lumps.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their lumps? Their Lumps? Their lovely rookie lumps?

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOO

Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.

by wilmnoca on Jul 7, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ This is the correct response. I should be booed. Personally, I think I should be warned for referencing any black eyed pea member, but luckily that’s not in the community standards. Yet.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Black-Eyed Peas?

And here I thought it was an Alanis Morissette reference… ;)

"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?" -- Oddball, from Kelly's Heroes
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by Raccoon Fink on Jul 7, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

*cough*

"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?" -- Oddball, from Kelly's Heroes
[My Hockey Photoshops] [My Music] [Beat a Dead Horse]

by Raccoon Fink on Jul 7, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now you’ve made it worse.

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boom Boom Boom !!

that’s the only Black eyed peas i know of…hehehe…

And if it Aint Hockey,It Aint Nothin !!
That Checkers 3rd Sweater ROCKS !!!

by CaniacSteve on Jul 7, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be Boom Boom Pow.

Thanks to my 5 year old for repeating that over…and over…

….and over. >.<

"...they will not force us...they will stop degrading us...they will not control us...we will be victorious..."
Mah blog.

by Tachi828 on Jul 8, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am very very happy Corvo is back! :)

Jim Rutherford is a moron.

by thebl4ckd0g on Jul 7, 2010 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s looking like a run and gun kind of team this year. They may lose. Maybe even a lot. But it should at least be exciting and high scoring.

by dgoose on Jul 7, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

It would have been nice to get a defensive d-man (I kinda wanted Pothier to stay and help the kids develop), but you can’t argue with two and a quarter mil for Corvo. Price was right, so it was good to pull the trigger. But I can’t see Corvo and Babs on a line, that spells trouble.

by rubyhawk on Jul 7, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Any pairing without Gleason is going to spell trouble.

by dgoose on Jul 7, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ win

Is it possible to be addicted to hockey?

by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clarification: trouble defensively, but that’s a heck of an offensive punch.

by rubyhawk on Jul 7, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Gleason and Corvo have already been named an “automatic pairing” and the whole reason that Corvo was brought back was to let McBain play 3rd pairing duty… I guess that leaves:

Gleason – Corvo
Pitkanen – Babchuk
McBain – Sanguinetti
Harrison

Our 3rd pairing is interesting, two guys who should eventually be top-4 guys but combined have under 20 games NHL experience. I really hope we don’t put too much faith in Harrison by trying to integrate him in.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually...

JR had already given Harrison the edge as our 5th D-man. Sanguinetti will have to really outplay him in camp to win that spot.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has he said that recently since we acquired Sanguinetti?? Just curious because currently Sanguinetti is in the 5th D position on the Depth Chart. Not worried anyway, a scarecrow could outplay Harrison.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

That’s in the last week or so. http://blogs.newsobserver.com/canes/rutherford-likely-a-quiet-weekend

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sanguinetti is completely untested in the NHL. He may not get the first chance, but I have been following him for the last 2 years as a guy I would hope the Canes could get from the Rangers and he definitely has some serious potential.

What scares me is that with the setup we have, we are very offense heavy. I really hope it doesn’t pan out that Harrison becomes needed due to a lack of physicality, while he may provide that he is worthless in all other respects.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

harrison is physical? Guy better not get into any fights. With his record he is likely to lose in a battle with semin.

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those sissy slaps are fierce.

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by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, sissy slaps would be Semin.

Go Canes!

by ivyleager on Jul 7, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

“JR had already given Harrison the edge as our 5th D-man. Sanguinetti will have to really outplay him in camp to win that spot.”

Oh s**t…

by DesertCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the look of that with Harrison being the odd man out. I consider it quite a luxury to have six “top-4” defenders in the lineup.

by CoastalCane on Jul 7, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think as a whole those 7 spell a pretty good defensive corps. Our powerplay should definitely improve, and as a whole, can do their job. I’m thinking we’ll be getting back the goals that we’ll lose, hopefully. It’ll be interesting to see who comes out of camp, and if that is Sanguinetti. He’s got a chance. And JR might re-sign Carson or another FA for that spot.

by rubyhawk on Jul 7, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

COOL! I am a big Corvo fan, I know he irritates some people but the man can shoot too. We can definitely use some offensive help as we transition the youngins.

by PittsburghCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

These guys can hold their own in their own end.

Corvo may take some chances but he ususally recovers nicely. Babchuk is a plus player for a reason. A plus player!!!!

Just removing Brindy this year just about makes us a plus team……….

by KenRab on Jul 7, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

180 Out

Last season, it was all about size and nastiness on the blueline. Walters, Wallin, and AWard. That was so 2009.

by Scott Cason on Jul 7, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Fun to watch.......

Skinner is going to be skating figure 8’s around the Craps this year. Maybe he will get bongo drummed by Semin………..hehe…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsdfMi7YZ2o

by KenRab on Jul 7, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know which is worse… That Semin fights like that or that Marc Staal got beat up by a guy that fights like that.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think one of those chicks hit me.......

Can’t tell really,,,,,,,,,,,I am seeing double….What is their point?

by KenRab on Jul 7, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Semin could take lessons from them haha… You would think a guy with such a good wrist shot wouldn’t slap so limp wristed.

by JussiJuice on Jul 7, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha Semin’s wearing pink too…

by DesertCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a supervisor, I may have to employ this tactic when my guys don’t get along with each other. “Ok, obviously you two can’t work this out like grown men. Slap fight.”

by CoastalCane on Jul 7, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

get those chicks a pair of skates and Canes uniforms

i think we just found our third pair defencemenwomen

by zippy8 on Jul 7, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn’t sound, well, nevermind

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this move for a couple reasons.

1) The fact of the hometown discount proves he wanted to be here all along. It’s not often in this day and age when a quality player gives that to his team. Plus, with him coming back, we know what we are getting.

2) It looks like the Canes are setting up to play a fast-paced style of game. With all of the youth and speed up front, in addition to the potential offensive firepower from the D, I think it’s gonna fun to watch. But boy will it get ugly when it backfires.

by CoastalCane on Jul 7, 2010 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

A win is a win, no matter how you get it I guess.

by CoastalCane on Jul 7, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

gonna suck for the goalies’ GAA though

by CoastalCane on Jul 7, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

No respect for the dead, huh?

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this move alot. I didn’t think we would snag anyone in free agency, especially Corvo. Home town discount, he likes the team, gels well, great move.

by PittsburghCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does a fantastic job no matter what the situation. People up here argue that Shero is a better GM, while he is great, I completely disagree.

by PittsburghCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy smurf, you can make positive commentary! Color me shocked!
kidding! (sort of) :P

by malkarx on Jul 7, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

My irritation is only with one individual. The rest of the organization is fantastic.

by PittsburghCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to beat a dead horse, but wasn’t Laviolette fired for doing this? Wasn’t he handcuffed by not having the types of players he needed to run that style of offense?

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by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was fired for not being able to adjust.

Maurice has shown himself to be a versatile coach in terms of his style and system.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

And because he had “lost the room”. From what I’ve heard, thus far in his career, Lavi’s communication style only allows one to listen for about 24 months and then the players seem to tune out.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo HMof2 Rings the Bell Re: Laviolette

   I can’t count all the number of times different people with varying familiarity of the inner workings of the Hurricanes all had the same thing to say about Laviolette. Their point was that after two years of Laviolette hockey, the players were done and stopped listening. I can’t confirm those statements were true; but it was remarkable how many different ways that information was expressed.

by abramsdoug on Jul 7, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone catch Corvo on the radio just now? He sounds really glad he’s coming back. He said that he didn’t have much to do with contract left that to agent.

For those of you who call him Emo-Joe, I could see that this is a move to comfort and eliminating unknowns. He realized he was the oldest guy in the room and he (kiddingly) said he’d need to start behaving himself, but seriously that he realizes that some of the kids might look up to him so he’s gonna be ready to lead.

He will be wearing #77. He sounds very much relieved and looking forward to a new season with all the young talent – didn’t sound canned, but genuinely happy to be back in the fold, with Rutherford at the helm.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s the link to hear Joe on 99.9 this afternoon. (about 6 1/2 minutes)

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why you’re awesome HM2. You’re always there with the link. I feel like I should be paying for this service.

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by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am actually surprised that Corvo didnt try to re-sign with the craps. I kinda thought that when he got sent there he would stay there. Good for us.

by PittsburghCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they (Caps’ GM GM) came out and said that they were not interested in bringing him back a month ago. And the Caps fans were pretty harsh in their opinions up at Japers Rink. They’re evaluation post was scary.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their loss, our gain. I am thrilled they hated him :)

by PittsburghCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn’t really a fit in Washington. Washington really needs more of a shut down guy.

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by C-Leaguer on Jul 7, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

So did we, question mark?

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corvo/Gleason LOVE IT!!!! Glad he decided to come back, from the looks of things I may be in the minority :)

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m with ya. Glad to see Corvo back.

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Number 77

Re-signed on 7-7. Auspicious numbers.

Top 4 D by December should be:

Pits-McBain
Gleason-Corvo

I feel strongly that McBain is going to advance his game in 10-11 like Sutter did in 09-10, and will prove to be a nice complement to Pits. Gleason-Corvo is a proven pairing. The 3rd pair will be Babchuk-Harrison/Sanguinetti/Checker.

I’m still baffled at signing Harrison over Carson. Yeah, the money would have been higher — maybe $1 mill v $500k — but the player is worth it. Carson would have filled a role for a stay-at-home, smart player on any of the 3 pairings. I wonder what happened behind the scenes to make JR let him go. And I don’t think the Canes will get a chance to re-sign him.

As to Corvo’s salary, the FA market this year is crowded at the bottom, and $3 mill/year for a lunchpail Dman wasn’t going to happen. Joe’s got a nice shot, but he can make some boneheaded plays in his own end. In other words, he’s not a top shut-down guy nor an elite D scorer so his chance for a big contract really didn’t exist.

All in all our D got better today. That’s a good thing.

by Gillimus on Jul 7, 2010 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

and fairly inexpensively at that. Does this move put us at the $44MM mark yet? Someone who’s good at math needs to figure out if this will be our final move of the off season.

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by wilmnoca on Jul 7, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

salary calculations

I used the most likely rookies to fill out to 13 forwards and 7 D including Harrison and Sanguinetti, NOT including the Buyouts I had $44.475 Mil. Adding in Kaberle and Brind`Amour’s $1.733Mil combined, we’re at $46,208,333.

FWIW, this year’s Cap figure is just under $48.1mil. with those assumptions. (which leaves $15.6 in Cap space in case something incredible happens between now and next March.

The 13 Forwards I assumed are listed below. The 4 at the bottom are between $500k and $700k, so you can mix-and-match with other entry level contracts without much effect.

Eric Staal
Tuomo Ruutu
Erik Cole
Sergei Samsonov
Chad LaRose
Jussi Jokinen
Tom Kostopoulos
Brandon Sutter
Zach Boychuk
Drayson Bowman
Zac Dalpe
Jiri Tlusty
Jon Matsumoto

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this list is in order of how much the player earns, then it is rather shocking and pitiful to see erik “useless” cole in the top 3.

I’ll admit, one of the few poor decisions by JR was to bring him back…

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ask and ye shall recieve!

I love you HM, I don’t think you’ve ever disappointed me!

BTW, is anyone else shocked by the fact that we still have Kaberle on the books? This HAS GOT to be the last year of that right?

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by wilmnoca on Jul 7, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

imagine if the guy had a NTC and was still stuck on the team.

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, last year for Kaberle

by Gillimus on Jul 7, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love you too, wilmonca. Kumbayah.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s only cause you don’t know me very well…….

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by wilmnoca on Jul 7, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep – listed in order of salary.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

$15.6M in cap space! We could still go out and sign Kovalchuk, trade for Marleau and have a little room left for the kids’ bonuses! :)

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by PackPride17 on Jul 7, 2010 7:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sign kovalchuk and then trade erik cole for some toothpaste.

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It depends on what type of toothpaste. He might be worth Colgate, but that’s about it. :)

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by PackPride17 on Jul 7, 2010 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I guess that is better than “value time”

by PittsburghCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! You are Funny!!! I think Kovalchuk is waiting for his “Prime Time” show to announce where he will play!! and what on earth do they need toothpaste for?? most of their teeth get washed in a cup ;)

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!! Should trade him for some dentures instead!

by PittsburghCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

toothpaste is for JR

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

long long ago, in a galaxy far far away, JR played hockey too, I am sure he is missing a few chompers!

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was he a pre-mask goalie?

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, this was his

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is of course a replica

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like a japanese noh mask

you know ….like they use for rituals and performance

scary stuff

by zippy8 on Jul 7, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I heard somewhere JR was one of the first goalies to decorate his mask.

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

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by Cyn4Canes on Jul 8, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Roach

Haunting the dreams of player’s agents.

by Elsker on Jul 7, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Messed up the cap space - not like that was the important number

OOPS – I goofed up on the Cap, and never added in Samsonov (I admit to having originally had him in the buy-out section when I started the spreadsheet a month ago). The salary numbers are right, but the cap hit number wasn’t figured right.

So, (w/Brind`Amours $3.6Mil etc), the correct cap hit is $50,627,166 which leaves us cap space of about $8.75Mil for that playoff run we’re fantasizing about next Spring.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

I’ve seen the cap number at more like 58 or 59 million.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep – double checked and corrected my formulas later.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know your talking forwards and D-men here, but if your talking total money..why no Wardo figured in??? Or am I missing something..( Very possible)

by max creek on Jul 7, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have 2 goalies (Ward and Peters), 13 F and 7 D in the $44.475Mil which doesn’t include the buyout expense.

My intention was to clarify I wasn’t going with minimal 6D and 12 F. Sorry that wasn’t worded better.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It should be noted, however...

That Sutter got way more NHL time in his rookie year than did McBain.

And don’t give up on signing Carson. Rutherford hasn’t.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you are right about Carson, and I am looking forward to seeing McCutie full time next season!!

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carson Re-Signing

  I really hope that Carson will ultimately be re-signed. I am envisioning Harrison as a call up from the AHL much like Conboy was this year in terms of their salary.

by abramsdoug on Jul 7, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would that require Harrison go on waivers though since he doesn’t have a 2-way? This has been explained to me a zillion times, I still get confused. Conboy had a 1-way last year and had to clear waivers when we moved up and down.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harrison and Waivers

Last season, Harrison would have to go through waivers, I believe. My recollection is that Harrison was put on waivers prior to being sent down for the AHL playoffs and went unclaimed. I am assuming the same result would happen this season if Harrison were put on waivers to go down to the AHL.

by abramsdoug on Jul 7, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly the defenseman I wanted, but its not a bad signing. He could definitely play top 4 minutes for us and takes a little pressure off McBain. It is a little surprising because this is a “now” move and not necessarily a “future” move. I still wish the Canes could figure out a way to get Marc Staal, but that seems out of the question now. We still need another defensive defenseman. We have 1 DD, 1 PMD, 4 SD’s and 1 POSD.

I’m happy with the signing simply because anything we can do to keep Harrison off the ice is fabulous!

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by PackPride17 on Jul 7, 2010 6:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yes – fabulous! =D

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We now have a sh*tload of right-handed shots on the points. They usually have more value than the standard left-handed shot. So if we’re sellers at the trade deadline, we have a few pieces to spare.

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by PackPride17 on Jul 7, 2010 6:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Glad to see Scorevo back in the Sightless Eye. This D corps was the thing everyone saw as a weakness just a few weeks ago. Now it is looking like a helluva backend. Only question that can be brought up here is the top heavy order on offensive minded guys. While they might be pretty good offensively, they are called defensemen for a reason. I always thought that while Corvo takes chances, his D game has always been solid.

Good signing by JR. Say all you want about him, but he is one of the best GM’s in this league right now.

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Corvo and the Offensive Dmen

   It really looks to me as if the Organization has decided it wants to outrun the opposition. The young kids have tons of speed and Staal and Sutter (I guess he is still a young kid in age, but acts like a veteran on the ice) also have excellent speed. Cole and LaRose also have excellent speed. I really like the fact that Corvo re-signed. I hope Carson is watching Corvo and re-thinking his stance.

by abramsdoug on Jul 7, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or maybe he's as frustrated with his spot in the organizational pecking order as many here at CC are.

I’m not one of the people who despises Harrison, but for those of you who do, how would you feel to be behind him for a chance to be an NHL player?

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our D 2 years ago (similar minus McBain) was the highest scoring D in the league behind Florida I believe, probably a significant reason we made it to the Playoffs and ECF. Too bad we only have 1 D that can put someone like Ovechkin on their ass (Gleason).

and add who forslund said would be the rookie of the year this year (mcbain) and this could be quiet a blueline..

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by chrisj on Jul 7, 2010 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel good about this. We may be underestimating Bab’s defensive abilities too.
Didn’t he have a pretty good plus-minus stat in Russia?

And I think he has some luck playing with Pits in the past.
But Joe and Timmy were our shut down pair against some good
offense. (Most particularily against OV.)

I think JR said he was still talking to Carson also. (On CH site)

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by UNCCaniac8 on Jul 7, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Not hard to have a good +/-...

When you’re a scorer that’s never matched up with the other team’s top lines.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So our defense:

TIMMAY – ReCorvo
Pumpkinhead – Babs
McLovin – Spaghetti
POS

Not a bad defense, but we still need some toughness.

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by PackPride17 on Jul 7, 2010 7:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

ReCorvo, THAT’s a good one!!! I like it ALOT (for Cyn) better that Emo Joe :)

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m kind of fond of “POS” hahaha

by CoastalCane on Jul 7, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you :)

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

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by Cyn4Canes on Jul 8, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Emo Alot

oohh – I think this is fitting

"The increase in pain is way beyond what you would expect a person to play with," said coach Paul Maurice. "Unfortunately it’s even beyond what Tim Gleason can play with, because he can play with just about anything."

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by Cyn4Canes on Jul 8, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, doesn’t that guy on the left look like cole??

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by Ivan459 on Jul 8, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha ha!!! I Love ALOT!!!

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 8, 2010 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

God, I don’t want Babs in the top 4. Maybe I’m biased but I remember how he got shut down in the 08-09 playoff run. His shot is big, but teams learned that if they pressured him he would turn it over. Wasn’t he scratched most of the playoffs?

by Gillimus on Jul 7, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um, yup!

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if he's not scoring, what is he doing for us?

I’m certainly in the same boat.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am right there with you. I’ve said that same thing so many times that I’ve lost count.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Jul 7, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly believe that this is the best D the team has put on the ice for quite a while. I really believe that.

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did whitney leave?

been on vacation but trying to keep up on news. I get back and Whitney signs with Colorado?? I’ve looked everywhere for Canescountry commentary… did I miss something?

by neaux on Jul 7, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

jumped ship last week, going to Phoenix

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go to the coverage of the 2nd day of UFA season, July 2nd.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He decided his family wasn't as important as he felt like a few months ago.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

^subtlety win!

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by C-Leaguer on Jul 8, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

have I mentioned I don’t like Babchuk??

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL, glad I’m not alone!!

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by jenniwa30 on Jul 7, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

why don’t you like baber?

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because he don't quite fit the first word in defenseman.

The second, I guess that’s his business.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

While he choked in the PO’s, he didn’t do that bad at all in the regular season. If we can fix that PO issue, then all we have to worry about is his off year to play in mother russia (for him at least).

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by Ivan459 on Jul 7, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getting to the playoffs is still going to be a difficult task. If we make it there, I’ll consider the season a success. Playoff results be damned. It would really show that JR can build a team with no money and I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong about him and Coach Mo.

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by PackPride17 on Jul 7, 2010 10:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You know you’re not alone on this one.

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by caniacgirl on Jul 7, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Babchuck too.

When he WAS here he just stood around staring at people like what am I sposed to do.

I think he’ll be the Aaron Ward of the Canes this year. :(

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by thebl4ckd0g on Jul 7, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aaron Ward versus Babchuk

   I thought Aaron Ward was perhaps the worst defensemen for the Hurricanes in years. I couldn’t disagree with you more about Babchuk. When I watched Babchuk at practice, which was before he started getting more minutes, he was working hard and skating fine. I thought the Hurricanes needed to move him from the top of the point so he had better angles to shoot. They did so and he went on a tear and was a key reason why the Hurricanes made the playoffs.

  Babchuk also stopped plenty of passes by cutting off passing lanes. He is extremely tall and his arms are quite long. Babchuk lost confidence during the playoffs; and he didn’t adjust well to being pressured. He was and is a relatively young defenseman. In my view the criticism of Babchuk is overdone. I am very happy he is back with the Hurricanes. I think he could provide much needed offensive punch to the powerplay. In 2009-2010, the Hurricanes would have made the playoffs if Babchuk had played and if he had added 16 goals. In game after game (particularly early in the season) the lack of defensive scoring on the powerplay sank the team. McBain will help. Corvo hopefully will have his shooting touch return and that should help. Sanguinetti will help. Babchuk certainly will help.

   Babchuk to my way of thinking is a tremendous upgrade over A. Ward and Wallin. He is much, much more of an offensive threat than Alberts. I think the entire defense is an upgrade over where it was at the start of the year. Of course my enthusiasm is tempered by the fact that I thought A. Ward would be brilliant for the Hurricanes by bringing his toughness and experience to the team; and he was a total flop in my book.

by abramsdoug on Jul 8, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is exactly what I saw........

If you really watch Babchuk, he is not a liability at all. His play is sound. I think the casual fan sees a big guy that seems a bit slow. Reality is he is doing a lot on the ice. His decisions are good, he is a good passer, he knows when to pinch. He uses his size very well and specifically his reach. This is a very good dman. Oh by the way, he has a cannon that backs up the defense of the other team. All you need is for the defense to move back 12 inches to get your offense in a better scoring position. Ask Eric Staal how important the big shot is. Stretches the ice out. Gives the offense room to work. Fun to see the other team flopping all over the place trying to block shots.

As far as Aaron Ward goes, I was also very shocked to see how his skills and speed had eroded. More than that, all his retirement talk was just not what I expected. I looked at him as a warrior. Now I realize he lost his Mojo…. Physically he seemed the same. His head was not there. I just didn’t see that coming. In my head, that was the biggest goof this organization has made. I also do not blame them for pulling the trigger on Ward. He clearly lost his desire. Ultimately, he was correct, it was time for him to hang ‘em up. I think we were all blindsided by that situation. Between Brindy and Ward’s play there was no way the playoffs were happening last season. Teams exposed them over and over again. That was tough to watch. Classic young vs. experience situation. At some point, age will just end the debate. At 38, old man age is coming for Whitney too. It was a smart move to let him go.

by KenRab on Jul 8, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another Couple of Comments on Babchuk

I put the “reach” word in my initial draft of the post and then decided to remove it because it always inspires interesting commentary. I totally agree that one has to watch Babchuk’s play closely to appreciate his defensive play. I bought one of his used hockey sticks at some point for one of my kids and literally it was much taller than one of my sons. Add being 6’5" with long arms and the distance Babchuk covers defensively by using his height is pretty impressive. Offensively, he has such long arms and with his hockey stick, when he pinches in and shoots, the puck leaves the stick almost at the crease. It’s like watching an NBA player leave his feet at the top of the circle and dunk.

   I have certainly seen Babchuk make his share of mistakes, but his value to the team to me is inarguable when one compares the power play in 2008-2009 when he got his game going and the power play during the first thirty games without Babchuk.

by abramsdoug on Jul 8, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he uses that "reach" as a crutch.

When he’s not in good position or he gets clumsy with his footwork, he tries to poke at the puck, and often ends up matadoring the player and the puck right by him.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 8, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

'He is much, much more of an offensive threat than Alberts.'

Well sure, but he’s a defensive downgrade (and not a minor one) from him, Ward, or Wallin.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 8, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I absolutely disagree. It’s easy to see how bad Aaron Ward was on defense for the Hurricanes if one watches the videos. Wallin was not as bad as Aaron Ward, but he was not a good defenseman by any means. I would take Babchuk 1,000 times over Wallin on defense because Wallin had really, really slow reactions to the puck, and had problems tracking pucks at his feet.

   If Babchuk was such a horrid defenseman why was his plus minus statistic a plus thirteen?

by abramsdoug on Jul 9, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because he's a scorer and he was very, very rarely matched up against top scoring lines.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 10, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic deal. JR did a good job to bring back a player like Corvo for only $4.5 million over 2 years. Of course, I certainly appreciate that Corvo took the hometown discount just to get back with the Canes. That shows that he really wants to be here, and it’s always good to have people like that on our team.

So adding Corvo basically gives McBain some time to adapt to the NHL, which will be very important to him and the Canes. Also, this allows Harrison to serve as the 7th D-man, meaning he should be a healthy scratch most games (I hope).

Although I hope JR was going to add a shutdown, defensive defenseman along the lines of Wesley, I can’t be upset because we got a pretty good deal here, I think. This should help shore up our blue-line. I just wonder if Corvo will wear no. 7 now that Wallin’s gone.

by DesertCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I really do hope that Sanguinetti gets the nod over Harrison now…

by DesertCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny thing

i was thinking the exact same thing !!! as i have Sanguinetti play enough in the AHl to know he is better than harrison…but I’m just a fan…yada,yada,yada

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by CaniacSteve on Jul 7, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sanguinetti over Harrison

   To me it is such a no-brainer to have Sanguinetti over Harrison. Sanguinetti can really skate, and has an excellent shot. Caniacs are going to really like Sanguinetti. Harrison has quite a bit to prove on the ice. I know he was hurt, so I want to see how he does this season before judging him harshly.

by abramsdoug on Jul 7, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don’t have a problem with Harrison dressing as long as it’s as the 7th D-man, meaning Sanguinetti (and not Harrison) will play in the top-6.

But yes, Sanguinetti has more potential than Harrison and I think the Canes know that. Otherwise JR would not have traded for him. In order to develop into a good NHLer, Sanguinetti will need more playing time. Sanguinetti over Harrison, for sure.

So now we’ll have an Italian (Sanguinetti) and an Irishman (McBain) working together in the third pairing … oh boy that should be fun :-)

by DesertCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Could we flip one of Corvo or Babchuk to the Rangers for Marc Staal? I mean how many offensive defenseman do we need in our system?

Pitkanen, Corvo, Sangueitti, McBain, Babchuk, Lawson, Rodney(?), Faulk, and I’m sure I’m missing others.

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by PackPride17 on Jul 7, 2010 8:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think they have a glut of offensive d-men as well. It’s one of the reasons they traded Sanguinetti.

by rubyhawk on Jul 7, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems unlikely b/c JR already went through the effort of signing both Corvo and Babchuk. But that’s a deal I would more than welcome.

We do need another defensive defenseman for sure, b/c Gleason is the only one who really fulfills that role right now. Ideally, he needs some more help there. Leads one to wonder if JR will add another D-man to help fill that role. But with the salary restrictions, that may not happen.

If JR is done with re-tooling the defense for now, then he may turn his attention to getting a third line center. That may wait until camp, however, as JR hinted at earlier.

by DesertCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, seems like he's willing to let all of the in-house candidates fall on their face at camp before he goes elsewhere for a solution.

One can assume the Yelle situation made an impression.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And by the time he’ll need a solution (assuming none of the youngins are able to step into that third line center spot), there probably won’t be any quality third line centers available on the market. May have to trade for one if need be…

by DesertCaniac on Jul 7, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but are there any we could afford to sign right now even if we wanted to?

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 8, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't fix our payroll issue.

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by MichaelProcton on Jul 7, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I don’t see him as an offensive defenseman and I was mentioning our offensive defensemen. I know its a little confusing, it looks like I’m just listed our defensive players excluding Gleason. We really don’t have any DD’s outside of TIMMMAAAAY!!!!!!!

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by PackPride17 on Jul 7, 2010 10:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

my bad – read your post too quickly. (missed the rather important word “offensive” )…carry on..

Though Gleason did take up the mantle of offensive D for a couple weeks last Nov and Dec. Wasn’t that fun? A man of many talents.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

And, to address your point on trying a trade for MStaal, I thought the reason Sanguinetti was stalled in Hartford with the Rangers was they also have a lot of young offensive Dmen and he couldn’t break through after he got on the wrong side of Torts….

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more thing change, the more things stay the same. This should be the Canes management slogan.

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by PackPride17 on Jul 7, 2010 9:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Holy bloody hell! I’ve been on a crit sit call at work since 8am today (still am) and I missed this! I didn’t see this coming.

Let's go Hartolina WhalerCanes!!!! I am a big fan of the Canes, but I still have some residual Brass Bonanza Blue and Green in me.

by Ned Butler on Jul 7, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

At $2m this year and $2.5 next year I can support emo Joe and his freaky tattoos. Plus we got another Finn and Sanguinetti by loaning him out for a couple of months. That’s a pretty good deal. I knew he liked being here but I really think he gave us a pretty deep hometown discount to come back.

One thing I remember about Joe, and I can’t remember exactly the game, but it was one against the Caps at the end of the 08-09 season where I thought he did an excellent job defending Ovechkin. He wasn’t all that physical but he was mobile and stayed on him like white on rice for the entire game (and scored the empty netter that Ovechkin couldn’t reach in time IIRC).

Can’t hurt that he’s now also played for the Caps and can perhaps give us a little intelligence from the inside.

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by LTD on Jul 7, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Can’t hurt that he’s now also played for the Caps and can perhaps give us a little intelligence from the inside.

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by hockeymomof2 on Jul 7, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKE.

LTD…you’re so evil. Fantastic. :D

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by Tachi828 on Jul 8, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah yes. The empty netter from behind his own goal. It was like the entire crowd was trying to will the puck into the net.

by CoastalCane on Jul 8, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great to see

Glad to see that Corvo manned up to his word and resigned as he said he would; he was never really a fit with the Cap’s and for that matter neither was Walker. Walker we don’t need he would block to much talent from the AHL level but Corvo was a very much needed signing.

Great to see a guy be true to his word in the sports world today which is very rare and for his price tag it is a true steal.

Go Canes.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Jul 8, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

John Manasso of FoxSportsCarolinas...

…had this to say about Joe Corvo.

Full of nice little insights.

Thanks to Mike Sundheim’s Twitter account for the head’s up.

by Elsker on Jul 9, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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