Riley Nash wants a seat at the crowded table
by Elsker on Jul 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT
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Just wanted a place to discuss the sudden (at least sudden for me) emergence of Riley Nash as a potential answer for the "so who's centering the third line?" question.
There are certainly implications for the other candidates, if he truly is an option for that particular role, in that the roster is already looking a bit crowded for the forwards.
We have 10 forwards signed to one-way contracts right now: Staal, Ruutu, Cole, Samsonov, Jokinen, LaRose, Sutter, Kostopoulos, Tlusty, and Dwyer.
So, assuming that we're going to carry 13 forwards on the roster to meet our 22-player requirement (along with 7 defensemen and 2 goalies), then there are three slots open for our two-way contracts to share.
Potential candidates for those three forward slots include: Boychuk, Bowman, Samson, Dalpe, Osala, Sanguinetti, and now potentially Riley. That's 7 bodies competing for 3 slots, one of which might be a healthy scratch if no one's injured or we're not sitting a one-way contract (but, that's a separate discussion).
So, Riley's sudden emergence as an option potentially crowds those shared slots down to just two for 6 bodies that want some time in the NHL.
And, as a further item of discussion, how do you think those that worked their way up from the CHL to the AHL and are now reaching for the NHL feel about someone dropping in from the college ranks to potentially take a NHL slot with no AHL time whatsoever?
Don't get me wrong, it happens, especially with college-route defensemen, but even then they usually cut their pro teeth in the AHL before jumping to the NHL.
Is Nash trying to skip riding the bus entirely and stay in school until a NHL slot is almost guaranteed? Or, is he willing to "pay some dues" in the AHL, while we audition some of the two-way contracts for the slot he covets?
Must be some interesting discussions going on among management...and perhaps among the players.
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Yeah it should make the battle very interesting… better for our team I think.. this way, the absolute best of the players will make the team.. or at least that’s the hope I suppose. =D I like what I’ve seen of Nash, I like Osala and his size, and I’ve liked what I’ve seen of Dalpe’s game… but I guess we’ll see right?
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Dwyer is on a two-way deal.
As for the question, if Nash is the best option for the job then he should get that spot regardless of him not playing in the AHL previously.
Yes, it does look like the two-year contract that Patrick Dwyer signed in 2009 is a two-way contract.
I was mistakenly relying on CC’s previous budget post that had him identified as being on a one-way contract.
Or Did you Mean Matsumoto?
Re-reading, I think you meant Matsumoto as a forward prospect, right?
Sanguinetti is a defenseman, I believe.
Meant Matsumoto.
That’s what I get for taking a business call mid-post. :-D
Thanks for catching that mistake.
So, with Dwyer on a two-way contract...
…that opens up 4 forward slots among the total of 13 for two-way contracts, of which we currently have 7 legitimate contenders: Boychuk, Bowman, Samson, Dalpe, Dwyer, Osala, and Matsumoto.
And that’s before we add Riley, or say Skinner (!), to the mix.
What a great problem to have! I’ll start working on “Canes Country’s Guide to Training Camp” right now…
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 8, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Need "true" centers
There is a crowd amongst the young guys for a few spots but Nash, being a true center has that advantage. If he continues to impress Ronnie Francis at camp the way he has been while at Cornell I am sure Ronnie would lobby for a one-way deal. My gut says if Nash decides to go back to school he’ll never be a Cane, and I would try and trade his rights away. As a center with skills enough to make Francis take close notice he has to know the opportunity he has here. If he doesn’t take it then he is really that committed to his college education or is just playing a game to either make mo money or go to a team he really fancies. All accounts are that he is a smart, well respected young man so I’ll take the high road on his intentions for now. Also as we try and figure out who will join Staal and Sutter in the middle, let’s not discount Matsumoto. While he has never played an NHL game he did very well in the AHL, and if you read some of his scouting reports he really did impress with a lot of skill. There is a lot to be excited about with the young players this team has. Really makes me wish the team could move Cole and Samsonov and open 2 more spots up.
No way.
He’ll get a standard entry-level, which is always two-way. However, he has said explicitly that he does not want to leave school to play in the minors. Unless he’s virtually promised a spot on the big club, I don’t see him turning pro until the spring.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 8, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
His coach said that (not interested in AHL) but surely Nash to too smart to think that is something he should insist upon. Brind`Amour is one of the few to accomplish that.
I also got to thinking that if Nash really wants to have a permanent spot as 3rd line center (with Ron Francis and Rod Brind`Amour giving him pointers), then the sooner he gets here to go head-to-head w/Dalpe the better for him. Once Dalpe gets an “in” he’ll be as hard to shake loose as Sutter.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 8, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
While Dalpe might start off as the Canes 3rd line center, I really believe he will advance beyond that quickly. I say by at least the start of the 2011/2012 season and maybe sooner than that, he will be a top 6 winger. He’ll probably be the “scoring element” on a Ruutu-Sutter-Dalpe 2nd line.
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by PackPride17 on Jul 8, 2010 10:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If ever there was a man that could talk a bird down from a tree, it’s Ron Francis, who appears to be the org’s voice in Riley’s ear.
In fact, I first began to respect his persuasive powers when he personally negotiated his last players contract with the Canes during the course of a lunch to which JR was invited.
I hope JR at least made him pay for the lunch.
Because an extra million dollars was already on JR’s tab by the time lunch was over. :-D
That would be the presumption...
But every time Nash has had Francis brought up to him, he simply says that he’s been to a lot of games, not that he’s talked to them or impressed anything on him.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not a smart or not smart thing...
It’s about lifestyle. The kid’s at one of the cushiest places in the world, and he probably doesn’t want to hump six-hour bus rides and stay in Motel 6s any sooner or longer than he has to.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
While my first thoughts
Are for Nash to return to college but i also feel he can be signed thus taking away for this coming season any possible soap opera dramtics we all love to play and see…as yes…the canes are “flush” with talent & skilled players and several prospect as well…while Hockeydog and others maybe correct in that JR will dump the guy IF nash don’t sign something …but if JR did or were to do that…would he NOT be cutting the teams throat possibly for the latter part of 2010-2011 after Nash graduates ? But as the guy said after camp and having a sort time to think…he’ll let everyone know…myself I’d perfer him to return to college..plaster some great numbers at college and then say excuse me…when he gets on the ice…either in Charlotte or @ RBCC…
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Either Pro or College
Steve,
Unfortunately we ( and Nash) can’t have it both ways. If he signs a pro contract (whether a one way or two way) under NCAA rules he cannot return to play College.
I would think he would really have to impress to be given a one way contract. It is a big leap from College to the NHL. The speed and skill level is one challenge but even more so is going from the approximate 30 game schedule to the grind of 82 games. McBain had 4 years under his belt and still needed a year in the AHL before he was ready. Although many think it is easier for forwards to make the transition than D.
You would like to think that the Canes thought through all the possibilities before spending on 2nd pick on him. If he goes back to College there is a good chance we lose him. This will be interesting to see unfold and somewhat of a test as to Ron’s potential as a front office strategist.
I really can’t see why he’d want to go back, even if he stays at the AHL level he’ll still make more than he would with his degree starting out plus going back does nothing for his development. At some point he’s going to have decide who he’s playing for: the name on the front of his jersey or the name on the back. I tend to think if he goes back he really hurts his NHL value and sends a message that it’s me first team second.
If the kid like college and wants to graduate, why begrudge him that?
Good for him, if that’s his choice.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it’s pointless and doesn’t help our team. If he gets the go-ahead from Ronny and JR then great, but I don’t see that happening. It’s a waste of a year for him.
So, if you’re Riley Nash, do you sit back and ask yourself “Should I make my decision on what’s best for the Carolina Hurricanes? Or should I go with what I feel is best for me and my future and pursue that pointless four year Ivy League degree?”
by CoastalCane on Jul 9, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn’t say the degree from Cornell was pointless, I meant playing another year of college hockey is pointless. I think if the Canes come out and ask him to forgo his final season because they think he has a legit shot at a roster spot or needs a season in the AHL he should do it.
That's not (and shouldn't be) their call.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 15, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It also doesn't hurt our team.
We’ll still have the same chance to sign him to an entry-level deal after his college season is over.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
We have exactly 30 days after he finishes college (whatever that means) before we lose the rights to him.
At that point, since he’s over 20, he becomes an unrestricted free agent.
However, since we hold his rights, I believe we would get the compensatory draft pick for not signing him.
That's likely his graduation.
And yeah, I’d imagine we’d get the 51st pick Edmonton was talking about getting.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m confused as to how compensatory Draft picks work… What happens to the team who would be picking at 51st in the scenario?
They get bumped down to 52, I'd assume.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, the compensatory pick simply gets inserted into the second round.
So, the second round would then involve picks 31-61, with the former 51st team now picking 52nd.
There were no compensatory picks in 2010, but there was one awarded to the Rangers in 2009 for the loss of Alexei Cherepanov.
Picked 17th overall, the Rangers were awarded the 47th pick (30+17) and there were 31 picks made in that second round.
Compensatory picks
I finally had time to do a bit of research regarding compensatory picks.
There are a lot of nuances involved, but there is a provision for failing to sign a first-round draft pick, and it involves assigning a pick in the second round in the exact same place the lost player was picked in the first round.
For our specific example, Riley Nash was selected 21st overall in the 2007 draft.
Therefore, his compensatory pick, if he’s not signed, is the “21st” postion in the second round: (30+21) = 51st pick.
So, Edmonton traded a 21st overall selection, that they believed was only going to result in a future 51st overall compensatory pick, for a 46th overall pick in a deep draft year.
And Carolina burned a 46th overall, part of our spoils for trading Cullen at the deadline to Ottawa (also yielded Alexandre Picard), for a shot at signing that first-rounder, with the price of failure being another swing at the plate from the 51st slot in a future draft.
Really nice GM’ing on JR’s part. Low risk, possible big reward.
And, in case you’re curious, Edmonton burned that 46th pick on Martin Marincin as compensation for not being able to sign Riley Nash.
I don't think CS was suggesting he sign and go back.
However, he could go the Lawson route and play his full college season while also getting in some pro time at the end of the year. I don’t know why you think Nash is “lost” if he makes that decision. We never lost Lawson.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Who was adamant from day one that he would never play in Raleigh.
We’ve heard nothing of the sort from Nash.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don’t think Nash wants to be a borderline NHL player. He doesn’t want spend a lot of time in the AHL and he doesn’t want to be a 4th line forward. I think he is struggling with himself and where he is at (not what team he is on whether it was Edmonton or Carolina). Whether he has the talent and dedication to make it at a top-9 forward in the NHL. From his interviews it sounds as if he would rather just quit hockey than go through the normal process that up and coming prospects go through.
Who was adamant from day one that he would never play in Raleigh.
Certainly I’ve seen speculation that this was his motive…but don’t believe I’ve ever seen a quote attributed to him that would be a smoking gun on this theory.
Could be he was just having a good time living the college life…as was his dad.
Watching Nash Today at Practice
It’s a limited view with a practice like today because there was constant motion. I came away having a much better appreciation for all the praise Ron Francis was giving to Nash. He definitely has speed and lateral quickness; and he seems to be one of those young players like Sutter who sees the game with veteran eyes. He’ll be an NHL player at some point; and it seems the only question is when. My guess has been that the Hurricanes are seriously considering Dalpe as a wing which makes sense with Staal, Sutter, and Skinner and now Nash. It also makes me wonder if at some point, the Staal to wing experiment doesn’t return with Sutter as the first line center. I am not suggesting that will happen in 2010-2011, but it does seem consistent with the young centers the team now has available.
I don’t think Sutter is #1 center material. I know he did it some when Staal was out(and did a good job) but not long term. Maybe if he can ever gain 30 lbs. he might could handle it.
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Maybe 15 lbs would be enough bulk for Sutter; but I get your point. Let’s see whether he starts to fill out some more when he arrives back in Raleigh for pre-camp training.
I have been preaching moving Dalpe to wing for a while. Like I have said before, I think he will be a top 6 player. I also think that Skinner will be moved to wing in the NHL. I’m really hoping Skinner become a Parise type of player. The Staal will finally have his Robin instead of Glass Jaw Cole. If we could pick up a playmaker like Hemsky, I would really like our top 6.
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by PackPride17 on Jul 8, 2010 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
With the rumors that Ryan Smyth could be going to Edmonton for Sheldon Souray… Edmonton would have way too many left wingers. I’d probably rather take Dustin Penner off their hands than Hemsky, both would be great 1st line additions though.
Skinner – Staal – Penner would be a great 1st line next year.
Enough with the Cole bashing...
The guy broke his friggin neck for your franchise. Glass neck……..glass neck. How soon they forget………. Hope he has a big season so you bunch of &(*!#$*&! will get off his friggin back.
I of course mean that in the nicest possible sense.
I'm not thinking he got hurt on purpose.
Further, when’s the last “big season” he had, ’07? And, by the way, PP mentioned his JAW, not his neck.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
“Hope he has a big season so you bunch of &(!#$&! will get off his friggin back.”
This is what the Pro-Rod Camp was screaming each of the last 2 seasons that he brought absolutely nothing to the team. I have nothing against Cole, except for he fact that he doesn’t help the team in any way on the ice. That would be like hating the stick boy. I don’t, however, believe that his production is commensurate with his pay, and this is my main point of contention.
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“Glass Jaw Cole” — I love it! What about adding “Sandy Vag Staal”?
by Capt. Stinky on Jul 9, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's hope
I hope that happens at some point. Staal is a talented player so he’ll get his goals and helpers wherever he plays, but I think Eric on wing with a good centerman would really use Eric’s natural abilities better than him being in the middle.
Galss jaw Cole
Not to put words in any ones mouth but I took the Glass Jaw comment not to suggest he should not have been severely hurt by Orpik’s cheap shot, but the multitude of small to medium range injuries he’s had over the years. Cole has to play a rugged style to be a successful NHL’r. Unfortunately his body – as big and strong as he is- just can’t take it. Plenty of pro athletes in all sports have that problem. Big, strong, as well conditioned as heck, but the body just can’t take the abuse like others. Goes to show just how remarkable and special pro athletes who play at the highest levels for years really are. Cole is like that, he’d never gone as far as he has in the game if he was mortal like us, but he’s a bit closer to us mortal bodied people than the vast majority of NHL’rs. No shame or insult to Cole, dude has guts galore to put himself thru that on a nightly basis.
Whether that is why he’s never found the long term consistency in his game is the question. Eric Cole at his best is truly a dominating force, but he is invisible for long stretches.
Hockeydog, you are correct. I was referring to Erik as “Glass Jaw Cole” because of all of the injuries he’s had and all of the games he’s missed. I was not talking about the broken neck. It just seems that Cole misses multiple games every year because of some injury and it made me think of the first fighter in Mike Tyson’s Punchout (I’m probably dated myself a little there).
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No way!
And hey, there’s been a new version out recently for the Wii.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, that's the ticket!
THAT’S the one he was talking about…………..The new one that just came out.Yea…… Was there even another one????
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tempest in a teapot?
Wait, someone fill me in on why we think Nash is 1) ready to be our third line center, 2) Ron Francis’s new adopted son, and 3) different from any of the other prospects?
I mean sure, I get the sort of diffident attitude with regards to college. While it is his choice, and finishing his degree is respectable, it definitely casts doubt on his commitment. I mean look at it this way, Cornell University isnt going anywhere. He can finish his degree when he is 40. On the other hand, if he plays NCAA hockey one more year, and hurts himself badly, the guaranteed millions he would make in the NHL evaporate immediately. They won’t still be there later. Pro-athletes who are really committed jump at the chance to make it. So choosing a fourth year at Cornell, even over Charlotte, would be a red-flag.
But anyway, why are we so sure he is either willing or able to make the Canes this year. What has he shown that others have not?
He can finish his degree when he's 40, sure...
But he can’t captain the team he’s been playing for for three years with some guys he’s been playing with for up to that long, and his last chance to get his team to the Frozen Four. That matters to some kids. Why shouldn’t he? As to his "guaranteed millions,’ they don’t exist. He could sign tomorrow and get hurt in a pro skating session the very next day, and he’d be left with a few hundred thousand, maybe.
As to what he shows that others haven’t, he’s got a physical and mental maturity that none of our prospects at the juniors level do. He’s three years older than Skinner, and older than most of the other AHL kids.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 10, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The AHL kids are minimum of 20, he just turned 21. He’s on the young end for Charlote.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 10, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
But he's on the old end for prospects.
Guys who are still AHL regulars by the time they’re 27 or so are probably never going to be NHL players.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 15, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm leaning toward believing Nash wants to sign.
CanesNow just put up a post quoting Nash after the final workout today.
Nash gave no hint today as to which way he was leaning. But he said he enjoyed his short association with the Canes’ Ron Francis, a Hall of Famer who pushed for the team to make the trade with the Oilers and get Nash into the Canes’ system.
“He’s one of the greatest hockey player to ever play,” Nash said. "It would be nice to have him showing me the way. But there are still a lot of decisions to be made and guys have to step up in their spots.
“If it comes to that point where he’s helping me out, that would be awesome. If not, I’m sure the AHL staff will do a great job. I have all the faith and trust in this organization and it was just a really good week.”
Since most of this debate (in this fanpost), has focused on the Cornell coach saying Nash would only go pro if he was guaranteed a spot on the NHL roster and was not interested in playing AHL, this seems like this is no longer (if it ever was) the case.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 10, 2010 7:43 PM EDT reply actions
I’m with you. I think Ronnie (and this week’s camp) have sold him.
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by Jamie Kellner on Jul 10, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He was so challenged by camp, and the Canes impressed him after his experience with EDM; he knows a thing or two (more than many of the others there)
That and big brother at Cornell has graduated and has signed with the Habs. I think he’s excited about what he can do as a pro. The competitive hockey player in him found some confidence and inspiration and is chomping at the bit to get to the next level. Cornell lost a bunch of their best players this year, next year is re-build. I think there is little to keep him there.
I spent a summer in Ithaca (at Cornell) when I was in high school. It’s not exactly an exciting place and the winters (and the hills) are brutal.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 10, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Then again...
There are guys who simply love college, and he’s got a chance to go back and captain the team he’s played for for three years. I’d say that’s a pretty nice selling piont.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 15, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you really think his coach would spread a lie about a kid he probably wants to come back?
What would be the upside in that?
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 10, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t say he lied. You’re just being divisive (which as you know is something very typical of how you respond).
I think people interpret statements certain ways and emphasize things that convey the message they themselves want to believe. Maybe the writer overstated something.
Whatever, Chip quoted Nash saying 2 hours ago that he thought the AHL would be a positive learning experience. That’s the only person who has the final say.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 10, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think if he wants to progress to the next level… He is going to have to take his time. He can’t just jump right to the NHL, maybe a full season in the AHL and he is ready (comparable to McBain), but these comments are at least comforting compared to what he has said before.
Edmonton seemed to think he was a lost cause, but I think Francis may have convinced him that the AHL is the next stepping stone he needs to take to reach the NHL. I won’t comment on his skill because I don’t really know that much about him…
Hardly anyone has made the leap from NCAA to NHL. Doesn’t happen hardly ever. But being in the mix to go back and forth like they are planning to do with Charlotte is the learning opportunity of a lifetime. And if his favorite player is Yzerman, I imagine Francis is probably high on his list too. Cornell might seem like small potatoes in that context.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 10, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
From the quotes we’ve all seen it seems like Nash wasn’t too thrilled about playing for Edmonton, and he seems a little more jazzed about the Canes organization. Making a decision to leave college in his senior year has got to be tough; it will probably come down to what his level of dedication is to becoming a professional hockey player. Not everyone dreams of being a pro athlete — maybe he wants to be an accountant :)
He will make the Canes/Checkers better; I hope he makes his decision soon.
Speaking of that, is there a timeframe by which he needs to declare?
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by Jamie Kellner on Jul 11, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t think there’s any official time frame, LTD, but I’m sure the Canes would like to know sooner rather than later so they can have a better idea of what the NHL/AHL rosters are gonna look like.
I’m sure his Cornell coaches would appreciate a heads up for planning purposes too. That would be the “right” thing to do – and not keep everyone guessing too long.
I know Jack Johnson is not exactly a favorite son here, but this story on him taking summer classes to complete his degree at Michigan really is great to see, and certainly relevant to the Nash conversation. Also furthers the argument that top NHL players are different from top NBA players. :cough: LeBron; cough:.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jul 11, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
LeBron's getting more in his current contract than Johnson will get in his career.
He doesn’t need to go to school. But nice job cherry-picking one player when dozens, or hundreds do go back and get their degrees after leaving early. And that doesn’t even mention the guys who make sure they graduate in less than four years to they can leave early with their degree (Jay Williams, Carlos Boozer, and Mike Dunleavy all did this at Duke in the same year.)
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 15, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Timeframe is probably the day before big camp starts.
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Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 15, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Nash from the N&O on Ron Francis’ recruitment:
""If it comes to that point where he’s helping me out, that would be awesome. If not, I’m sure the AHL staff will do a great job. I have all the faith and trust in this organization and it was just a really good week."
College, shmollege
Barry Melrose Rocks: Hockey and mullets. What else is there?
From CH.com:
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
Oh, and:
"It’s a decision that he has to make, but at the same time if a player is going to look at a depth chart and look at an opportunity to get your pro career started, this is about the best timing or opportunity that he or anyone else would have," said Rutherford.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 15, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
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