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Getting inside JR's head come the Trade Deadline...

This will be my first Fan Post, though I am a long time reader and sporadic poster on game days. I’ve been a fan of the franchise for years (dating back to the Hartford Whaler days) and am so happy to see the support the team gets on this board.

For many hockey fans, the trade deadline is the most exciting day of the year. In Canada, there’s all day coverage of the transactions as they come in. The Canes are in a rather unique situation. They’re not quite a Stanley Cup contender, and yet they’re not a bottom feeder either. They’re one of a handful of teams on the cusp of the playoffs. That makes the decisions Jim Rutherford must make even more difficult.

I’m a rather unique brand of fan, in that I personally would rather see my team tank and continue to stockpile better draft picks and prospects than either a) just miss the playoffs (see last year) or b) barely get in and get knocked out in the first round.

I realize, however, that most fans don’t want to suffer through such terrible seasons, and more importantly, the Canes need to do well in order to continue to build fan and corporate support in the region. In other words, the team desperately needs to make the playoffs, even though this doesn’t help them build for the future nearly as well.

I could cite countless examples of teams that have given up much in recent years just to remain in contention (see Atlanta and Calgary). Being a short term buyer at the trade deadline rarely works as either a short term strategy (i.e. going far in the playoffs) or long term (because you give up prospects that often would help you for years to come). Thankfully, JR hasn’t fallen into this category. The one year (2006) where he did go out and sacrifice, we got Doug Weight and Mark Recchi, and I think we can all agree that was well worth it.

With all of that in mind, I tried to imagine Rutherford’s options come trade deadline day. Last year I think we can agree he played things very well, outside of not being able to trade Whitney (or deciding not to trade him, whichever story you choose to believe). This year seems more complicated. I took a long look at the roster, and tried to project what he might do.

My assumptions all begin with thinking about the current elements of the team, and what the team might look like next year. There are a few wild cards, and of course this is subject to opinion, but I think most hockey experts would tell you that a successful team consists of 2 lines that can score (top 6 forwards) a line that can shut down your opponent’s best (the third line) and an energy line (the 4th line). The best teams have 3 lines that can skate and score, with the added benefit that the third line can also check (see the Canes’ cup winning season). As for the defense, I truly believe that you need at least 4 defenders that can skate, hit, and move the puck. The very best teams all seem to have a solid core of defenders, and this may be the Canes’ greatest weakness. I think it’s fair to say that we’re set in goal.

So, with those assumptions in hand, I tried to project our roster for NEXT season, as any trade decisions will likely hinge on that. This gets pretty complicated because we have sooooooo many unrestricted free agents after this year. One thing that this organization really seems to get the benefit of is a hometown discount. The players do seem to love playing with each other and living together. So, with regard to the forwards, here is roughly what we might be looking at:

1st line: Staal, Skinner, Cole

2nd line: Ruttu, Boychuck, Jokinen

3rd line: Sutter, Dalpe, LaRose

4th line: Carter, Tlusty, Bodie

This I realize means resigning UFAs Cole, Jokinen, LaRose, and Carter, plus the RFAs. I believe that Cole would rather play here or retire, and I think both Jokinen and LaRose know they owe much of their success to this franchise. Carter I’m not as sure about, but he is desirable for the way he plays and his size, and given that he was waived by Anaheim I think there may not be too much demand for him elsewhere.

This of course means the team would be without Dwyer and Samsonov next year. I’ll get into trades and values in a bit, but the crux of my logic is this: the Canes work best as a skating team that can get physical. Would they be even better if they went out and got another power forward? Yes, of course. But given the self-imposed spending limit’s the team has, and the fact that EVERY team in the league covets big power forwards that can score, and I don’t think it is likely that the team will give up tons and tons for that player. The above proposed forward lines give them the best potential to succeed.

Additional thoughts: yes, there are other prospects in the system that may contribute. I think that Bowman will be an NHL player, though I’m not sure he will develop into an offensive threat at the highest level, he may be asked to fill a more defensively responsible role. I think other forwards in the system also have potential in various roles, though I’m not convinced they’re “top 6” players: Nash, Matusmoto, Osala, and Terry. Justin Shugg looks like he may be a great player, though the team has the luxury of being able to let him develop slowly over the next couple seasons.

The defense, as most fans know, needs help. I feel bad writing that, because when you look at any one of the current 6 defensemen, they’re all solid NHLers. Even Harrison, who many were quick to bash early on, has really improved and can be counted on for some reliable defensive play. That being said, the team needs more high end talent on the back end. The trouble here, much like the need for one more top flight power forward on offense, is that EVERY team wants these top end defensemen that can skate and hit. The good news from my perspective is that the team does have the assets to move now for prospects that could contribute as early as next season.

Right now, both White and Pitkanen are set to be UFAs. Both will be desirable assets come the trade deadline. White, while undersized, is an excellent skater and is positionally strong in his own zone. By most standards, he would be a 4th D man on a lot of teams. Pitkanen has always been huge on talent and insanely inconsistent all over the ice. Yet, he could still be the 2nd best D man on many teams in the league. As Abramsdoug mentioned in his post last week, I don’t think JR will risk losing such assets for nothing over the summer. S, this has been my longwinded approach to predicting trades in March.

I think our biggest changes will be on defense, where both Pitkanen and White will be traded.

Pitkanen will be one of the top targets for Stanley Cup contending teams. I expect we will see a 1st round pick and a top flight defensive prospect in return.

White will also be of interest to many teams, especially those not looking to spend quite as much. I think a 2nd round pick and a depth defenseman (perhaps with another year at a moderate contract price) will come back.

After last year’s fiasco, I doubt anyone will come looking for Corvo. As much as teams may want Gleason, given his contributions and another year on his contract, I doubt he’s going anywhere. McBain is certainly a part of the team’s future plans, and Harrison isn’t worth trading - he might command a 5th round pick, and his contributions outweigh that in my opinion.

The forwards are much tougher to peg. Samsonov will be traded. He has value as on offensive contributor, and in the right system, and certainly on the power play, he has much value. What the team will get in return however, is anyone’s guess. My personal feeling is that the team will get a 3rd round pick for him. It could be lower, but I think that’s reasonable for a potential top 6 forward, and I think more than one team will come calling on deadline day.

As I mentioned above, it looks like Dwyer may be an odd man out next year. It’s unfortunate because he does all the little things right, but there are simply too many talented forwards ready for next season. I’m not sure if many teams will be looking for another energy/checking forward at the deadline, but it may be best to move him for a 5th or 6th round pick than lose him for nothing this summer.

As much as many don’t want to read this, I think it’s also fair to assume that both Cole and Jokinen have a good chance of being traded. Cole would almost certainly be a rental that would come back to the team, but he is playing his best hockey in years, and he has size, power, and speed, and would easily garner a 3rd round pick, and/or a non roster prospect.

Jokinen may fall into the “trade him so we don’t lose him like Whitney” category. While he does love it in Carolina (or so I keep reading), the fact remains that he is an UFA this summer. He is the sort of player that makes everyone around him better, and he’s actually bigger than you might think. If traded, I think he’s worth a 2nd rounder and a top notch prospect, given his play. I think if the right team came up with that offer, JR would have no choice but to let him go.

What gets really interesting is wondering what will happen to the defense between now and the start of next season. All of our top end prospects likely need another year’s seasoning, so there will need to be some free agent signing or trade. The prospects in the AHL (Carson, Rodney, Saguinetti, and even Borer) all have their pluses, but like the current defense, likely lack the top end potential the team needs to move forward.

I don’t envy the decisions JR has to make, but I do admire what he’s done to date. This is my best guess and assessment of what we’re looking at in the near future. Thanks for reading this long post, I welcome your feedback and thoughts!




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Excellent Write Up

Great job on the write up. Almost every iteration of lines for next season I have drafted wound up with Samsonov traded and either Dwyer or LaRose as the odd man out. Given the high regard the Canes organization holds for LaRose, Dwyer may be the player Jim Rutherford reluctantly cannot keep. There are equally valid arguments that LaRose would be traded, again reluctantly, by Jim Rutherford.

  Boychuk and Dalpe are offensively gifted players. Making a place for them in 2011-2012 seems inevitable. Then again Jim Rutherford is imaginative and creative. He always seems to come up with ideas and trades that are great, but not predicted.

by abramsdoug on Jan 27, 2011 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks!

I really appreciate it. I too thought and thought on the who Dwyer vs. LaRose situation, and because of LaRose’s history with the organization, and slightly higher offensive upside I think he’s the one they’ll keep. But you’re right, JR is always making moves that we can’t possibly predict

by hearthesound on Jan 27, 2011 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

If anyone here has been

able to get “into” JR’s head it might or possibly be Forslund,And those in the front office (Mike & Kyle) . yet AD as well as you have pointed out what many here have pretty much thought or tried ALL the possibilities we all have come up with or dreamed about on paper or even posted here…your points/thoughts are just as valied as many others in other markets through out the NHl as they do look at the Hurricanes and ask…how are they doing what they are doing ?? And having a GM like JR has been what has not only kept this team a viable opponent but a good business modle others team owners could/should look at closely…Now as far as who goes and who stays…I can see Pits/ Samsonov being traded…but the key can or could be “when” ? in the case of Dwyer,LaRose,The Juice…I personally feel that Dwyer along with #14 &25 as or put together for trade bait would make more fiscal sence for the team …and IF players like Rosie,and the Juice do go…this fan feels unless JR gets another Skinner type of power foward,or a stay at home Dman…both Rosie & the Juice could very well retire here..unless Jussi Jokinen wants to be traded that is…but with all of that said by many of us here…all we here can do is a best guess effort…as only JR and PK know for sure what JR will or may do…myself…I’m pulling my seat belt a little tighter and justv go along for the ride with hope that what JR will if anything actually do will help not only for the rest of this season but for the nest 2-3…but hey…I’m a fan…what do i know ??

Thanks for the effort this re-inforces what many here think and feel…Catch ya later

The moment you write off the Hurricanes,
they make you look bad !!

by CaniacSteve on Jan 27, 2011 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the excellent analysis

You make strong arguments throughout, HTS. I’m personally hoping the Canes will find a way to keep Jokinen because he’s so versatile and valuable. I think Dwyer is becoming a better player than LaRose and the margin between them will widen over the next couple of years. I favor keeping Dwyer and trading LaRose, much as I like him.

Your estimates of what different players would bring back in trade were the most interesting part of the post, I thought. The great thing about forecasting trades at this moment is not having to wait too long to test your forecast against reality. I look forward to seeing how many of your forecasts are on the money. Some seem optimistic to me, but your arguments seem sound as well. That has raised my hopes for the Canes’ ability to build a strong foundation for the future.

by curiouscanesfan on Jan 27, 2011 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Taking some Hypotheticals

  There is a rumor circulating that the Flyers would like to get Cole. In some ways that makes tons of sense from the Flyers’ perspective. Laviolette knows and likes Cole. Cole is playing his best hockey since 2005. He’s big, fast, and physical. Similarly, as others have pointed out, the Pitkanen dilemma of how much he can command in salary means he could be traded. So here are some hypotheticals to ponder:

Flyers: Give up their #1 and a dman prospect/young roster player for Cole. The Canes need to create space for Boychuk and Dalpe, but they are not power forwards. The Hurricanes lose size, but don’t lose speed in the trade. The Flyers are likely to finish 25 to 30 (and probably closer to 30).

Canucks: give up their #1 and #2 for Pitkanen. The Hurricanes really don’t have a replacement for Pitkanen at this point; but Carson or Rodney can at least serve to burn some decent minutes. Canucks are probably going to finish in the range of perhaps 20 to 25, but perhaps even higher.

Assuming those hypotheticals to be true, the Hurricanes wind up with three first round draft choices and two second round picks. The picks are less valuable because the teams are going to finish so high; but there will be some very solid players in the top 60 to top 90 this draft. The internal salary budget is easier to meet. Assuming Samsonov is traded for a third round pick, then the Hurricanes further create some funds to re-sign the other UFAs and RFAs.

  My take is I’d keep Cole, inconsistencies and history of injuries notwithstanding, because the Canes have a dearth of right wings. Still, given the role LaRose plays for the team, and the flexibility Dwyer has, trading Cole for high value makes economic sense.

by abramsdoug on Jan 27, 2011 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

There is a rumor circulating that the Flyers would like to get Cole.

Noooooooooo! Not just when he’s getting good!

(I know. Cue the “that’s what she said” comments.)

by Pfidget on Jan 27, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

If you remove the emotion from these decisions, and assuming these were actual offers, JR would be a fool to pass on them. Personally I think that there will be some money to throw at a free agent defensemen or two in the offseason, and of course there’s always the possibility that these players will be re-signed in the offseason…

by hearthesound on Jan 27, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

If someone makes an offer that just cannot be refused for a UFA rental (which we would need to sign this summer, regardless, if we want them next season), then it is my contention that JR will indeed pull trigger, confident that we have NHL-ready depth at the wing positions, and redundancy for the center positions within the current roster.

Productive as they are, both Samsonov and Cole could be lost, as long as all other wingers stay healthy and Boychuk (Samsonov) and Dalpe (Cole) pick up the points slack, which I believe they would.

If injuries strike, Mo plugs the leaks from within the current roster by field promoting upward, and JR supplies fresh troops from Charlotte for the fourth line (which then sinks downward to the 5 minute TOI range :-D).

Besides, there will be bodies coming back on at least one of these trades, beyond whatever defensive resources JR can pry away from offensive-minded GM’s.

Nice Fanpost, by the way. :-)

Here we are now...entertain us.

by Elsker on Jan 27, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Productive as they are, both Samsonov and Cole could be lost, as long as all other wingers stay healthy and Boychuk (Samsonov) and Dalpe (Cole) pick up the points slack, which I believe they would.

Completely agree on this. Cole’s Value over replacement (Vorp for baseball stat junkies), assuming his replacement is Dalpe, isn’t terribly high. I think a second round pick would be enough to make that trade, although given the Canes standing, Cole’s play, and the perception of Cole throughout the league they can maybe do better than that.

Don't trust me. I have psychological issues.

by C-Leaguer on Jan 28, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Problem with trading with the Flyers is that their best young players are already key parts to their current team. Ignoring the goalies, their best young guys are Van Riemsdyk, Leino and Carle. Doubt they would part with any of them. So best deal from them is a draft pick. Because they will finish so high you would want their 1st rounder which will be late in that round. Their best prospect is likely Oskar Bartulis. Another one of those iffy European defenceman that can either mature into great player or another Babchuk.

To me losing Cole isn’t about missing his scoring prowess. If you look at how the line has evolved this year they are using his power and speed along the boards to get the puck deep into the offensive zone and look to set up Staal or the left wing. Cole is an average shooter at best but you have to respect his speed and power move to the net. We don’t have another player in the system other than Osala that can match that, and big O may not be ready. If we are serious about a playoff run, Cole is tough to trade.

But can we make it without LaRose, Dwyer, or Samsonov? We’d miss LaRose’s leadership but we have more talented players in the system.

As for Pitkanen. If we could get the Canuck’s #1 plus their #2 or comparable prospect, you have to make that deal. I think it will be tough to sign Joni next season and we lose him as a UFA with no return anyway. This will of course weaken our playoff chances this season. The other D will have to step up big time and we would need either Carson or Rodney to step up big. The only other wild card would be if we in turn put together a package for a good young D from a non contender who may not be a fit for these other teams based on their need for a veteran player because he is the final fit for a Stanley Cup contender. Clearly we are not a Cup contender and the reality check is likely that the Canes would be elated to make the playoffs and get some experience for the young guys, make the fans happy and get some extra revenue.

by sittler27 on Jan 28, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Boychuk/Staal/Cole and Having Wheels on the First Line

The Boychuk/Staal/Cole line is a fast, balanced line that gives Staal the space he needs to operate. Cole is doing his best skating since 2005; and it is easy to forget that from around 2002-2005 he was one of the NHL’s most powerful, bull-rushing right wings. I can understand why a team like Philadelphia would want Cole; but the asking price would really have to border on the outrageous to make it worthwhile.

  I also think your approach makes sense and that the analysis is which players can the Hurricanes live without if they had had to. It seems to me Samsonov, LaRose, and Dwyer are the three players whose departure would least hurt the team. The Hurricanes have Boychuk, Dalpe, and Bowman who will need top nine minutes either after the trade deadline or next season. Samson is going to get a shot even if only in fairness to him to see if another team can fit him into the top nine. Nash is coming along well and by mid-season next season should be NHL ready.

by abramsdoug on Jan 28, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know if Bowman will definitely be in the NHL next year or not. It might be good to keep him in the A, let him develop further, and use him as an injury call-up.

The All-STAAL game is going to be CAMtastic!

by PackPride17 on Jan 28, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve seen no hint that Bowman is NHL-ready just yet, but if we’re going to just splash/swim test him in a playoff chase, then we could just as easily turn loose of Cole to make room for him, since we’re taking chances at that point, anyway.

I personally would trade Cole in a heartbeat for any serious offer at all. Going to be talking to him anyway this summer, so might as well pick up what I can for him this spring.

Ruutu could cover Staal’s right wing (Dalpe’s not yet ready for that action, in my opinion). Skinner goes back to the center position he covets. Try Dalpe on Skinner’s right, if you’re feeling froggy, Mo, and LaRose, if you’re not. Deploy Jokinen and Boychuk to Staal and Skinner’s left wings, as needed.

We could live without Cole, and should do so if someone offers….well, anything.

Here we are now...entertain us.

by Elsker on Jan 28, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking at free agent right wings and defensemen

I’ve been wondering whether the Canes could improve simply by signing unrestricted free agents this summer that are different from their own. It looks pretty doubtful. I’ve looked at right wings on the assumption that the Canes do need a good-sized proven scorer for Staal’s line and also someone younger than Cole. Here’s the disappointing list of RW’s that conceivably meet these criteria, plus their salaries for this season (or cap hits, I forget which). You guys probably already knew all this but I didn’t at this level of detail and pass it along in case you’re interested.

Michael Ryder 6’ 186 lbs. Age 30. Has scored 30 goals in a season. Salary: $4 M.He’s got the proven scoring and he’s a little younger, but he will cost more than Cole and he’s smaller, not bigger.

Justin Williams 6’1 188, age 29. $3.5 M. Everybody here’s knows this guy. He’s a good player who can definitely score and is three years younger than Cole, but has been injury prone like Cole, will cost more and is smaller.

Chuck Kobasew. 6’ 192 lbs, age 28, $2.3M. Has scoring ability somewhat like Cole’s and has played with Eric Staal. His current pay is a little less than Cole’s $2.9 M. His size is OK but he’s smaller than Cole.

Nikolai Zherdev. 6’2", 203 lbs, age 26, salary $2 M. Has had 26 and 27 goals seasons in the NHL. So younger, cheaper, about as big, similar scoring ability. Worth investigating to see if he would fit in Carolina.

Radim Vrbata. Another familiar face. 6’1, 197, age 29, $3 M, has scored 27 and 24 goals and has a good +/-. A little younger and cheaper, similar range of scoring ability. A little smaller than Cole and didn’t play the way the Canes wanted him to the first time around. Still may be worth investigating in the hunt for a proven scorer at right wing who’s younger than Cole.

Tomas Kopecky. 6’3, 203 lbs, 28 years old, only $1.2 M. Showed impressive speed in the Stanley Cup playoffs last year. Only problem is he’s a 10 goal scorer. He doesnt’ really belong on this list but this shows you what the free agent class of right wings is like.

My guess is the Canes will try to keep Cole at a discount. He’s playing well again. He’s been healthy. Keep the money reasonable and he’s the best choice barring a trade. The Canes might keep Cole with Dalpe as the backup plan. Or perhaps they’ll try Dalpe and economize on a first-line rightwing with scoring talent, speed, and size (6’1, 195) just a bit smaller than Cole. The only free agent option seems to be Zherdev if the Canes like the way he plays. If they don’t like Zherdev, Cole or Dalpe as next year’s starting right wing, they’ll have to trade for a high level rightwing prospect. But is there one out there who is bigger and better than Dalpe? If not, what’s the point of making a trade? That big, skilled rightwing with proven scoring ability looks more and more like a pipedream to me.

The situation on defense is similar. You can get free agent defensemen who are good and will cost about as much as Pitkanen or perhaps a bit less—Wisniewski, Chris Philllips, Kevin Bieksa, Christian Ehrhoff. But they’re mostly smaller or older or both. If the Canes are to lose Pitkanen and yet upgrade their defense, I think it will take a trade.

by curiouscanesfan on Jan 28, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Philly places Matt Walker on waivers. Interesting, makes $1.7 million for the next 2 years after this season… A 2nd-3rd pairing strictly Defensive D. Lots of hits and blocked shots… Definitely a gritty player.

If JR wanted to lock up a cheap defensive D for the next few years, might not be such a bad option.

by JussiJuice on Jan 27, 2011 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Great write-up! :)

Liked your write-up. Only thing I think of is Cole won’t be traded. He’s playing too well with Staal right now, and if we make a playoff push, Cole is the right fit. I think he’ll stay here. Other than that, I agree fully with most of the remarks. :)

Jim Rutherford is a moron.

by thebl4ckd0g on Jan 27, 2011 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

Enjoyed your article, very well done! We have some interesting days ahead of us as a franchise.

Editing Manager of Canes Country.com

by Bob Wage on Jan 27, 2011 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

Cole

I dont see Cole bringing back a 1st round draft pick and a prospect. Way too high a price for a guy on pace to score less than 25 goals.

by prplmnkydw on Jan 27, 2011 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

Cole's FMV

The NHL at the moment has a scarcity of legitimate Right Wings with size, speed, and physicality. The Hurricanes in particular don’t have an abundance of true right wings. With the playoff races being so tight, there are few right wings available. I’ve been looking in terms of a right wing the Hurricanes could obtain; and came up with Patrik Berglund of the Blues (and he’s a center who would have to be moved to right wing). Cole’s going to be priced beyond reach; and only a desperate GM will make the trade; but the price will be a moon shot. Whether it is as high as a 1st round pick and a roster player/prospect it only a best guess. I believe that price was the asking price for Whitney; and a extrapolate it to be Cole’s asking price as well. Cole is actually harder to replace on the Hurricanes team than Whitney was.

by abramsdoug on Jan 28, 2011 6:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Whether it is as high as a 1st round pick and a roster player/prospect it only a best guess. I believe that price was the asking price for Whitney;

The price for Whitney was a first and a second or items of similar value. For instance, the trade to LA included Tuebert, a former first round pick, and a second round draft pick. I don’t know that the market for Cole will be that high, but it could be.

Don't trust me. I have psychological issues.

by C-Leaguer on Jan 28, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree, but

For whatever reason, the NHL is strong at LW right now, and not at RW. That raises Cole’s current value more than it probably should. Cole has also been through three SCF performances (though only two games in 06) so he brings valuable experience to say the LA Kings, Pred, Coyotes or Avs… That’s worth something.

But, that creates the dilema for JR. We do not have the payroll to go out and get a better power RW on the market or in trade at the moment. Osala is not ready as a replacement. Dalpe isn’t in the same role, nor as physical—he’s a shooter not a space creator. Our issues are much bigger on defense, so that’s where the money and limited budget need to focus. Besides, if we really see Skinner, Dalpe and Boychuck all starting next year (and I do) then having the experience of Cole as a winger and competitor becomes even more valuable to the Canes—remeber, Sutter is still young, Jussi is relatively young. Staal is the only other old veteran forward and can’t do it all. So given the cost to replace Cole with an equivalenbt—if there even is one, and the fact we’ll be even younger at forward next year…Cole is too valuable to trade.

Our trades should be:
1. Samsonov, bag of pucks or better.
2. Pitkanen, Good young D-man and a second rounder
3. Possibly, possibly White if we think one of our Collegiate players or Carson is ready for 5/6 D time, and we have someone else still in Charlotte as a decnt call up.
4. Sweetner of Bowman, Terry, Samson (Dwyer if unwilling to let LaRose go) if necessary to get our main goal.

Our main goal is first and foremost, and positionally sound, strong, puck blocking, crease clearing, tiem eating #1 defensman. We have puck movers out the ying yang in the system and on the team in Corvo and McBain. That’s our budget focus, especially if we’re tied to the same regimes we were this year.

by Squeaky83 on Jan 28, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Cole’s value isn’t the goals he scores but the time and space he gives others because of his speed and power move to the net. There are few RW players in the league at t the momen with that ability. Even Cole couldn’t do it himself the past few years because of injury issues.

The value of deep Stanley Cup run and/or winning it is very high and the teams who believe they are a legitimate top contention know they will be drafting late in the 1st round anyway. There is very little that separates a late 1st rounder from a 2nd rounder so those top teams are much more likely to give them up.

by sittler27 on Jan 28, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

pits stays unless...

someone makes an offer JR can’t refuse!!! a 2nd rounder + isn’t fair value, not close!!
unless you get a pretty high 1st + , it would be crazy to let him go. what d-man out there can come close to doing all the things he can? our defense is our biggest weakness, we need to improve it, not trade away the best guy on it! JR is smarter than that!!

by randycane on Jan 28, 2011 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

A 2nd rounder + is a lot better then getting nothing for him if he signs elsewhere on July 1.

our defense is our biggest weakness

Which is exactly why the team can’t afford to lose him for nothing. Imagine the D after Corvo, Gleason, and McBain next season if Joni signs with another team on July 1. Next season is the last season of the current CBA. JR and PK have made a point not to go beyond the current CBA for anyone not named Staal or Ward. Will they do the same for Joni? If so, why haven’t they yet? Will another GM make a deal with Joni beyond the end of the current CBA? If they will why wouldn’t Joni sign with that team?

Don't trust me. I have psychological issues.

by C-Leaguer on Jan 31, 2011 7:12 AM EST up reply actions  

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