Clicks and Clippings: Here and gone
by Carolyn Christians on Oct 12, 2011 9:24 AM EDT
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The Carolina Hurricanes are back in town tonight hosting the Boston Bruins. This is the last home game for nearly two weeks as the NC State Fair starts this weekend. They play four games on the road, before returning to Raleigh in about 2 weeks, when the Ottawa Senators bring their crew of rookie talent to the RBC Center on October 25.
Tonight's game has a 7:30 start because it will be aired nationally on Versus. We'll have our game preview up later but for now some links and stories about tonight's game and other news for the Carolina hockey fans.
[Ed note: I didn't rate them all, but the feature posts that are marked with ★★★★★ ratings are my Must-Read's for today. ★★★★ is worth making time for]
Game Previews
Canes looking for first win tonight - Chip Alexander, NewsObserver.com The Hurricanes are not feeling well about their 0-2-1 start. The same can be said for the Stanley Cup champion Boston Bruins, who are off to a 1-2 start heading into tonight's game at the RBC Center.
Carolina Hurricanes to host Stanley Cup champions on national stage - Raleigh Sports Examiner.com The Big Bad Boston Bruins are coming to Raleigh, N.C. on Wednesday night.
Krejci out after practice injury - The Boston Globe After Monday's 1-0 loss to Colorado, Bruins coach Claude Julien hinted that a shakeup of his unproductive first line might be in the works, as the Milan Lucic - David Krejci - Nathan Horton unit was shut out for the second time in three games this season.
Corvo's style of play a welcomed addition to Bruins - Joe Haggerty, CSNNE.com In many ways Corvo is actually the polar opposite of Kaberle: A frequent and dangerous shooter with a quick skating stride and the willingness to speed the puck into the offensive zone with his quick bursts of speed. ★★★★
Profiling the Hurricanes
Jeff Skinner was on the primetime Sportstalk program at NBC last night. Good one. If this screen below doesn't load, here's the link. (2:44) ★★★
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Other interviews
Tim Gleason - Interview with Mike Maniscalco - aired pregame Monday talking about the defense and the goalies. He even talks about Skinner's fight. (6 minutes) ★★★★
Justin Faulk - interview with Mike Maniscalco recorded last week and aired prior to the game vs Washington, Saturday. Really well done. He even giggles when Mike asks him if he's brought out his NCAA Championship ring to show off here. (6 minutes) ★★★★★
More on the team
5 questions after 3 - Matt Karash , HockeyBuzz.com Quickly 3 games deep in the Canes 2011-12 season, here is a set of 5 questions and 5 statements based on what we have seen so far.
The Future of the Blueline
Rookie Justin Faulk, like his Hurricanes, in early-season learning curve - Jesse Spector, Sporting News After three games, the numbers are as ugly for rookie defenseman Justin Faulk as they are for his team, the 0-2-1 Carolina Hurricanes. With no points, a minus-6 and 10 penalty minutes, Faulk, 19, is getting a rude welcome to the league. ★★★
"We like where he’s at," Maurice said. "You see that young players show the (wear of) three games in three-and-a-half days first. The older guys are a little used to the grind. I think he showed that a little bit today, but overall we’re very happy with him. … He’s a little quicker, a little more physical."
Sanguinetti's Healthy Return - Paul Branecky, gocheckers.com Entering the new season, Sanguinetti has a chance to start over. After recording three assists in the Checkers’ first two games against Norfolk last weekend, he looks and feels like he’s back to his old self. ★★★
Boston College’s Brian Dumoulin consistent to the highest degree - U.S. College Hockey Online The junior defenseman returned to school despite being told he was ready for the pros. ★★★★★
"Obviously, it was very tough especially when an NHL team expresses how much it wants you to play for it," Dumoulin said. "Just hearing it from [director of hockey operations] Ron Francis and [general manager] Jim Rutherford was eye-opening. They said they thought I was ready, so they must have known what they were doing.
"But I came to BC to get a good, quality education and get a degree (he’s enrolled in the Carroll School of Management). Obviously, my parents (Peter and Deb Dumoulin) wanted me to make the right decision. I also had a 1½-hour talk with Mr. Rutherford. It all came down to my wanting a degree from Boston College and to be close enough to graduate at some point. If I had left after my sophomore year it would have been difficult someday to get my degree. That means a lot to my family and me."
For a broader look on when it's best to make the jump to the NHL:
Rushing Young Prospects Into The NHL, And Why Teams Do It - SBNation.com NHL teams are faced with tough decisions when 18-year-old prospects try to push their way onto pro rosters. The options are few, and many NHL teams make hasty calls that can negatively impact player development.
Goalie chirps
Goaltender Abuse: Where’s The Line Between Right And Wrong? - Justin Bourne, Backhand Shelf | theScore.com includes a video from Monday's game prefaced with: That’s Patrik Elias basically kneeing Cam Ward in the face in the process of mowing him over like he’s one of those inflatable kids punching bags with sand in the bottom.
Former Checkers/Everblades goaltender Bobby Goepfert responded: After reading your article and sitting in disbelief at how you dehumanize the men behind the mask, I as a member of the Goaltending Fraternity "Gamma Omega Alpha Lambda Iota Epsilon: Minors & Abroad Chapter", I feel it my duty to challenge you to a duel.
Alignment chatter and other fallout from the Atlanta to Winnipeg move
Red Wings in Southeast? Jets in Central? NHL wimps out? - Puck Daddy Bob McKenzie of TSN stuck his finger in the wind on NHL realignment, and has discovered the NHL may give the finger to a number of teams not named the Detroit Red Wings. ★★★
On night of celebration, jabs toward Atlanta unnecessary - Jesse Spector, Sporting News It was financial reality that led to the Thrashers’ demise, and fortunate for Winnipeg that Mark Chipman was so dedicated to reviving the Jets. That’s all it was. Hockey can flourish in non-traditional markets if given a chance—just ask San Jose, where there is not a natural patch of ice to be found, but the Sharks have had 100 percent or greater average attendance each of the past three seasons. Or talk to people in Tampa, Raleigh or Anaheim, where the local NHL outfits have captured the Stanley Cup along with the hearts of the people. ★★★★★
Prospects and Alumni
Whalers Get in the Pink for the Week | MLive.com Goaltender Scott Wedgewood is a four-year veteran of the Pink Out! and decided to go with a blow-dried look after working with a Mohawk in other years. Alex Aleardi looked sharp in a pink do that was slicked back. Matt Mahalak continued with the tradition of a Mohawk. Nick Malysa decided to get his fu-manchu mustache pinked out.
OHL Network - Storm's Scott Walker Named Team Canada Assistant Coach Hockey Canada, in collaboration with the Canadian Hockey League, announced Friday that Scott Walker (Cambridge, Ont./Guelph, OHL) will join the coaching staff of Canada’s National Junior Team for the 2012 IIHF World Junior Championship from Dec. 26, 2011 to Jan. 5, 2012 in Calgary and Edmonton, Alta.
Here's the hometown story from Guelph - just for the ★★★★★ photo.
Hockey Kids
Strong spirit helped support disabled teen - NewsObserver.com Cameron Gray Williams, a former state and local ambassador for the Muscular Dystrophy Association, died Thursday, after crafting a too-short life at an unusual intersection of disability and sport. ★★★★
Hockeymom Special : @EhStew13: Pre game nap. #eatsleephockey on Twitpic Mason Carter Anthony Stewart, born Sept 29, 2011. 5 lbs or so. ★★★★★
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Matt Karash is worth 5 stars
Matt’s blog on Hockeybuzz is worth 5 stars. He is consistently insightful, original and accurate.
Great stuff today Carolyn. I’m slightly disappointed Bobby’s Twog didn’t even merit a ranking. :)
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
Yeah well – that’s where the rating system gets me in trouble. Now all the writers come out of the woodwork to argue. LOL! Glad you brought it up in the comments though. Equally as helpful.
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 12, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I suppose you can’t make everyone happy. Don’t worry though, I won’t go around claiming I can do it better. I’ll stick to my armchair blogging. ;)
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
So you were thinking I was burying the Dalpelink down on the fourth line? LOL =D
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 12, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s your M.O.
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
“It’s your M.O.” or “It’s your Mo” ??
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
updates from the skate
We’re hearing on twitter that Faulk will sit today and McBain will be in. No changes on the forward lines.
Pairings:
Pitkanen/McBain
Gleason/Allen
Kaberle/Harrison
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
Good stuff, hopefully McBain performs. After watching Pittsburgh the past couple of seasons I’m starting to think that moving Skinner to center the second line should be done sooner than later and have our centermen as Staal, Skinner, Sutter, and Brent. Keep Staal & Skinner together on the PP like Crosby & Malkin (I realize Skinner + Staal does not equal Crosby + Malkin). It all starts down the middle.
Actually, accoring to Michael Smith the forward lines were juggled.
Jeff Skinner – Eric Staal – Chad LaRose
Alexei Ponikarovsky – Jussi Jokinen – Tuomo Ruutu
Jiri Tlusty – Brandon Sutter – Patrick Dwyer
Anthony Stewart – Tim Brent – Zac Dalpe
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Every time I look at that top line and see LaRose’s name everything kind of goes black, and I wake up ten minutes later and find my room trashed.
I would rather see
Skinnner – Staal – Poni
Juice – Sutter – Ruu
Stew – Brent – Dalpe
Tlusty – Dwyer – Rosey
by wylde4canes on Oct 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
not bad
Of Maurice, Karmanos said: "I’m happy Paul is back but he’s going to be judged the same way as any other coach. We need to win more consistently."
by Sergeant Stinky on Oct 12, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
anyway you juggle the lines it’s really tough to matchup against teams like Boston
Staal-Jokinen-Poni
Skinner-Ruutu-Dalpe
Sutter-Larose-Stewart
Brent-Dwyer-Tlusty
You either overslot someone on the 1st line or 2nd line, there’s really no way around it. Think Stillman willing to give up his job in Florida.
Thanks much – didn’t pick up on that adjustment. Who was with Jussi and Ruu Monday? Was it Stewart? I should have looked that up.
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes … and Tlusty on the fourth, Poni with Sutter and Dwyer.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 12, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
From where I sit, you need to break up Skinner and Staal. They’re generating the most chances, and (IMO) they’re not doing it b/c they’re on the same line, but rather b/c they are the best offensive forwards right now. I’d rather see them kick-starting two other forwards each than just one total.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 12, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I am not opposed to that idea either.
by wylde4canes on Oct 12, 2011 12:12 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Seems like Sutter, Tlusty, and LaRose used to be a good shut down line in the past. What’s the take on Stewart so far? He was up Monday and now he is back down on the 4thso there must be some question about his ability.
by hotchipsnsalsa on Oct 12, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Most coaches try to think of players in pairs first, then add the third person. I thin Sutter and Dwyer have great chemistry and they’re a pair, so any changes to that line would probably be to the other wing for now.
Stewart? Has his moments where he does some really good things, esp. below the hashmarks in the offensive zone. I’ve been less impressed with his play in the other two zones, tho he hustles for the most part, esp. when he has open ice.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 12, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
The reason why we haven’t seen a major shakeup in line combinations is the coaches confidence in their players, which is important. Everyone tends to think of confidence as something that’s internal and not affected as much by externalities, but by keeping the lines in tact for most part the message to the players is despite our record we’re doing good things and good results will come by keeping at it. The question is how many more games can they lose before he has major shakeup of his combinations – I think 2.
I had to laugh..why ??
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Corvo vs. Kaberle
I am curious if anyone is seeing an upgrade from Corvo to Kaberle after 3 games?
- Kaberle is even shooting less than Pitkanen on the PP…I didn’t think this was possible
- Corvo was more physical
- Kaberle gets 1.5mn more this year
- Kaberle makes less mistakes in his own end
3:1 for Corvo
Don’t know that I agree that Kaberle has shot less. He has 4, 3 and 5 shot attempts in each of the three games, respectively. That accounts for shots, misses and shots taken that were blocked. I actually thought he was shooting more than he had in Boston and Toronto last year.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 12, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Kaberle still playing is off side? If so, expect him to still be thinking his game. If he can’t pull it together, then put him back in his normal position. He hasn’t been worth 4+mil yet.
Harrumph
It was Gleason who was moving to his off side. Kaberle has been an LD with Canes and with Boston and Leafs.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 12, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree that Pitkanen is shooting more than last year. But that’s probably a result of knowing that his partner doesn’t. And he wasn’t necessarily better positioned than Kaberle on these shots…at least in the Devils game
Kablere/Pitkanen is an absolute disaster on the PP…the keep on passing and passing and suddenly the 2mins are over
Again, don’t agree … only six shot attempts for Joni on the year. Kaberle has twice as many.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 12, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
not seeing one change in pits game except for more boneheaded penalties
Of Maurice, Karmanos said: "I’m happy Paul is back but he’s going to be judged the same way as any other coach. We need to win more consistently."
by Sergeant Stinky on Oct 12, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
My Analyst of our ES Goals Against
I went back and looked at our Even Strength Goals Against to see if I could tell what is happening. The most obvious thing I noticed is that Staal ha been on the ice for all 8 ESGA and Skinner on the ice for 7; and both of these players have conributed to some of the goals against. Here is my analyst of these goals:
Tampa
1st Goal – we were in the process of a line change and Skinner turned the puck over at the blueline. Faulk & Ruutu were back, but it was a 3 on 2. Cam stopped the initial shot of Stamkos; Ruutu, Pitkanen, & Faulk misplayed the puck and left Stamkos, St. Louis, & Downie all alone around Cam; result goal. After misplaying the puck, everybody stood around and watched except for Staal who was too late to get there. My Primary Fault for This Goal: Pitkanen, Ruutu, and Faulk.
4th Goal – We lost a faceoff at center ice and everyone was just standing around watching the puck. The puck got chipped in and Staal was not covering his man, so Kaberle went over to cut him off. He passed the puck to a wide open Hall, and Skinner wasn’t even within 10 feet of his man, result was an easy goal. My Primary Fault for This Goal: Skinner & Staal.
5th Goal – This was just a defeated team skating. Staal took a bad angle and didn’t skate hard enough to catch up with Malone. Basically a 3 on 2 with an easy cross ice pass and score. My Primary Fault for This Goal: Staal.
Washington
1st Goal – We had the puck and had 4 Canes (Staal, Ruutu, Skinner, Kaberle) at or below the circles, because Kaberle made a completely useless pinch. We turned the puck over, one quick pass and it was Faulk against two Capitals. Faulk didn’t play the situation well, focusing on the man closet to him that didn’t have the puck; easy score for Semin. My Primary Fault for This Goal: Kaberle & Faulk.
2nd Goal – We again had 4 Canes (Staal, Ruutu, Skinner, Kaberle) at or below the circles when Washington got control of the puck. Faulk was sort of playing centerfield here (better than his positioning on the 1st goal) and Ruutu did sort of get back to defend. But Chimera made Ruutu look like he was stuck in mud and blew past hime. It was too late for Faulk to recover, easy score. My Primary Fault for This Goal: Ruutu.
New Jersey
1st Goal – We had 2 Canes (Staal & LaRose) below the goal line when NJ got possession. Kaberle did a good job of stopping penetration by Sykora, Harrison sort of stayed with Parise, but once Parise skated by; Harrison lost his man while trying to direct Skinner. Skinner should have taken Elias, but really just stood there. Bang, Bang, Parise sneeks behind Harrison and knocks it in. I don’t think Cam played it well, because he really jumped far on the Sykora to Elias pass, but I don’t really blame him. My Primary Fault for This Goal: Skinner & Harrison.
2nd Goal – Staal & LaRose had a 2 on 1, but Staal’s shot/pass got blocked and NJ got possession. By then we again had 4 Canes (Staal, LaRose, Skinner, Faulk) at or below the circles with Pitkanen back. Joni slowed up Kovalchuk and we got back on defense, except Staal. Joni had Kovalchuk, Faulk picked up a man, and LaRose & Skinner picked up the same guy (not sure why Skinner was covering the same guy as LaRose), leaving Fayne all alone. He shot and scored. My Primary Fault on This Goal: Staal & Skinner.
3rd Goal – Ruutu had the puck, then Stewart got it, trying to get the puck to Staal, Stewart turned the puck over at center ice. The puck, 2 Devils, and 3 Canes went behind the net; leaving Kovalchuk all by himself. Faulk definitely made a mistake on this goal, leaving the front of the net completely open. Staal did not get down quick enough to cover up for the mistake. Shot, rebound, score! My Primary Fault on This Goal: Faulk & Staal.
So after watching those goals against; it leads me to think that the Canes needs to make sure we have 2 guys back when deep in the offensive zone. The pinch is hurting us, especially when leaving a rookie back there. Also Staal & Skinner seem to be some of our weakest defensive points at forward. Having them on the same line might be good for offense, but it is a strategic mistake on defense. Maybe they should be split up 5 on 5 and only put together in PP situations.
All I want for Christmas is some cohesive line!
this is good stuff
Wasn’t Skinner a near even player last year? Seems weird his +/- is appearing to go down so much. I want to say he was near the top of our +/- leaders right? Maybe I’m making this up.
by chrisbrasfield on Oct 12, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He was +3 which was among the top 3 on the team among forwards. Sutter was top dog at +13; Jokinen and Skinner at +3.
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 12, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a lot of that had to do with Ruutu, Cole, & Jussi covering up some of his defensive faults. Staal is obviously not good enough to do that; given Staal is not very good defensively so far.
All I want for Christmas is some cohesive line!
by PackPride17 on Oct 12, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Staal > both Cole and Ruutu defensively.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 12, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So, basically, your answer is to leash up the D. When we are averaging 2 goals a game. And a defensive core with a less than Defensively solid reputation. In effect you would like for us to continue losing, only be more boring in the manner by which we lose?
by wylde4canes on Oct 12, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much every Even Strength goal against has been in transition. So keeping a player back should prevent some of those transition goals. And maybe if Mo takes offense players off the 4th line and put them in an area to succeed, then maybe we could score more often.
Just watch the tape of the goals this year and you will see what I’m talking about.
All I want for Christmas is some cohesive line!
by PackPride17 on Oct 12, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Great insight btw so thanks for taking the time to do it. This isn’t intended to be sarcastic and I am really thinking out loud here, but maybe MO sees the same thing and believes minor adjustments will prevent goals and that’s why he mentioned yesterday they were not worried about the past perfomances.
by hotchipsnsalsa on Oct 12, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Not like it’s helpful at all, but on Tampa’s first goal, I believe the D was going to go off on a change and Skinner’s turnover had them back peddling. I recall saying even before he lost the puck “too fancy” and then everyone was kind of in “oh ****” mode. I think Skinner takes some blame on that one.
In any event, I have no issue with Faulk getting a break (if they were concerned about fatigue) and McBain getting a chance.
You are right, they were going for a line change and Faulk didn’t get off because of the turnover. Pitkanen did get on. My biggest problem there was not the turnover by Skinner, which wasn’t good, he should have got the puck deep in that situation. My biggest problem was that Pitkanen, Ruutu, and Faulk where all standing to the right of Cam as Stamkos, Downie, and St. Louis were surrounding him.
All I want for Christmas is some cohesive line!
Looking at Canes history; a line that worked pretty well was Stillman-Staal-Cole. There Staal & Cole did a lot of their work down low. Stillman was usually on the half boards, so we didn’t have all 3 players down low at one time. A Skinner-Staal-LaRose line doesn’t do the same thing. Staal is almost always down low, Skinner does a lot of his work around the goal, and LaRose is usually down low as well. If we don’t retain the puck, the opposing team usually has a good opportunity of transition hockey (which has been killing us so far). Maybe a 3rd forward like Jussi would compliment Staal & Skinner, having him stay on the half boards.
All I want for Christmas is some cohesive line!
Been thinking about this statement, PP17:
So after watching those goals against; it leads me to think that the Canes needs to make sure we have 2 guys back when deep in the offensive zone. The pinch is hurting us, especially when leaving a rookie back there.
Sincere question: Is this suggesting that the Paul “the Trap” Maurice is now playing a system that is more offensively aggressive and that the team is not being defensively responsible – so that the Canes are now getting beat in the neutral zone because they are not transitioning from offense to defense quickly enough?
I am assuming I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying, but I would appreciate it if you could tell me that one does not necessarily mean the other or if indeed Maurice is trying something different than the hockey system he’s preached since 1995. (which has been established is impossible).
(That part’s not quite so sincere, I’ll admit)
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 12, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
All I was analyzing was our Even Strength Goals Against, I cannot speak for the entire game. But in regards to those ES goals, 3 of the 8 were a result of 4 men low in the opposing team’s zone. I don’t know if that was Mo trying a more agressive style or whether it was the individual player seeing something and trying to attack.
In all 3 cases, the pinch by the defenseman was unnecessary. The first goal for Washington, I have no idea what Kaberle was thinking because the puck was going to the opposite side of the ice. The second goal for Washington, Kaberle was standing around watching the play; I didn’t see a need to pinch. The second goal for New Jersey was a 2 on 1, but I’m not sure why both Skinner & Faulk had to go below the circles.
But what I was really trying to say is that we are not strong enough defensively right now to have Staal & Skinner on the ice at the same time.
All I want for Christmas is some cohesive line!
Okay – that’s kinda what I thought. Thanks.
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 12, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Good analysis
ANd another reaosn for Staal and Skinner to be seperated. Both were effective on seperate lines last year, no reason the think they would be even more effective together. In fact, this analysis implies they should be apart. Since we’ve proved they both contribute apart, and their best chmistry and scoring thus far has occured on the PP, the solution seems obvious:
Staal 1st Line, Skinner 2nd line. Both together on 1st PP unit. We know they can both score apart, they did it last year, and they still benefit on the PP. Now we have the other team having to make defensive line and defensive pairing choices to match differnt lines, and we’ve split up the defensive liability the two seem to have together.
Now figure out who to put with them. My Take? Based on preseason, Poni, Staal, Dalpe—now give them time to find chemistry and work off the varying strengths they posess. Skinner, Ruu, Jussi—skins and Finns always wins. Sutter, Stewart, (one of Tlusty, Dwyer, LaRose) and finalyy Brent and who’s left after the 3rd line choice…
..but maybe that makes too much sense.
is it bad of me that...
I still am just giddy that hockey is back? I probably should be more irritated or have more opinions—I’m just so excited to be watching regular season games at the RBC that I don’t care….
Give me a week and maybe I’ll change my mind, but right now I’m still just happy to have stuff to watch and talk about.
by chrisbrasfield on Oct 12, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
Not bad
Really the best way to go. Bottom line is this is all entertainment anyway. I am a hockey fan first, then a Canes fan. We have hockey to watch so ultimately we are lucky to have a team.
Thank Miss Carolyn for the post. I hit the CC site for a quick minutes or two and end up spending 20!
I heard the Scott Walker interview on XM Hockey Talk. One of the interviewers asked him about what learned from his previous NHL coaches that he can take away and use now that he’s a coach. I was very surprised by his answer. He’s had some great coaches, the one’s I remember Scottie mentioning were Pat Quinn, Barry Trots, Mike Keenan, Paul Maurice, Peter Laviolette. He said good things about all his coaches but said best was Peter Laviolette: quoting what I can remember – “he wanted you to do better each year, if you had 2 goals one season he wanted you to get 4 the next…as a player you wanted to to through the wall for him”.
Wow. Didn’t expect to hear that. I though the players hated Lavi and wanted him gone, he lost the room. Well, not according to Scott Walker.
Harrumph
Not everyone can be motivated the same. Imagine you’re a 30-goal scorer and Lavi expressing disappointment that you only scored 30 again. I don’t know what was said to who, and what not … but Lavi does have a rep for riding his players too hard.
by Cory Lavalette on Oct 12, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why I was shocked (shocked I tell you) when he had very favorable words and singled Lavi out as his best/fav coach. I’d not think Scottie would mince words or say untruths.
And on your point, surprisingly, Mo hasn’t figured out how to get our goal production up either. So either Staal’s 100 pt year was a freaking miracle and he shouldn’t be expect to put up points like that and therefore not be ridden hard, or he has that potential and to reach it he needs to be coddled. Which is it?
I remember a Lavi practice where he said several times to Eric, in his NE accent: “Eric, one timah!” Yet, Staal was very hesitant to do so. I hope that’s not construed as riding hard.
Harrumph
Welllll
My take: I believe Lavi is a very good leader. He understands his personell and how to motivate and get the most out of them. He knows how to build a team and how to get his people on one sheet of music, have them care for each other and get them to increase their peronal motivation and skills to be the best they can. But that only works for so long as well. it’s hard to keep improving. there is a plateau. And it’s hard day in day out to go out and literally give a true 100%, nothing left back effort every day in games and practice. lavi asks for that. He gets it for a while, but no one can keep it up, and evetually, even though it worked early, later on, he’s out of ammo and the players get tired of it. Because honestly, you never do get 100% every game form anyone. If you did, they wouldn’t be able to go to overtime or shoot outs—we say give 110% but that’s not reality—but it does represent really giving it your 100% effort.
Mo seems very good at X’s and O’s. He sees the right things. He knows what he wants his teams to do. BUT, he does nto seem to have the same leadership ability to get the most from his individual human players. He can’t seem to raise a players game, he can’t seem to understnad where players belong or that they have certain key strengths that if catered to or used correctly, they can produce great results and hide some flaws. Mo seems to want everyone to play the same type of role. To fit in his X’s and O’s. But we’ve seen he’s not good at getting a team fired up and able to come out looking ready and eager to play night in and out. We’ve seen him have an uncanny knck for NOT getting the most out of his players.
And I think Mo’s deficiency is his inability to personally connect and lead his team. He’s too much a manager….
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Appreciate all the good information….Here’s hoping for a win tonight!
Desperation from Day One......let's not wait until the end!
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