Hurricanes at Bruins: Cam Ward vs Tuukka Rask
by Carolyn Christians on Oct 18, 2011 2:22 PM EDT
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The Carolina Hurricanes resume their four-game road swing with a stop in Boston tonight. The Canes were able to notch their first win of the season last Wednesday against the Bruins and Tim Thomas in Raleigh. Tonight Coach Claude Julien will go with the younger half of the B's potent tandem, giving the nod to Tuukka Rask.
Chuck Kaiton was on satellite radio's XM Home Ice program this afternoon and confirmed the Canes starting lines. Jeff Skinner will be re-united with the two Finnish forwards, Jussi Jokinen and Tuomo Ruutu. Captain Eric Staal will be flanked by Alexei Ponikarovsky and Chad LaRose on the top line. Cam Ward will start in goal.
The Hurricanes (2-2-1) have a two-game win streak on the line and look to get above the .500 mark. Boston (2-3) went into Chicago last weekend and handed the Blackhawks a loss by a score of 3-2.
Rookie wing Zac Dalpe is out with a lower body injury, and Brett Sutter, who wears jersey number 42, was called up yesterday from Charlotte to fill his spot on the 4th line. This will be Sutter42's second appearance with the Canes, but the first of this season.
Here are the Hurricanes forward lines:
For the defense, the pairing remain the same as in the last two games, which of course are both wins.
Healthy Scratches: Justin Faulk, Derek Joslin.
Links:
"I think Tomas has played like our group," Canes coach Paul Maurice said. "We all felt a little bit of a slow start, but there was still a lot of good and then in the last couple of games. Our power-play numbers aren't incredible but we've scored five and he's a big part of that."
- When Joe Corvo was in Raleigh last week, Kurt Dusterberg had a chance to ask him about the trade over the summer and acclimating to a new team in the northeast. Corvo moves on - Kurt Dusterberg, HurricanesBeat.com
From this morning's N&O
- Canes better at faceoffs - Chip Alexander, NewsObserver.com Rod Brind'Amour was long considered one of the best faceoff men in the NHL. Now a Carolina assistant coach, one of Brind'Amour's duties is to help make the Canes' centers more effective on faceoffs.
- Skinner still shining - DeCock - NewsObserver.com Eric Staal is the captain. Cam Ward is the backbone. They're still No. 1 and 1A in the Carolina Hurricanes' pecking order. With every game he plays, Jeff Skinner is closing in on them.
From Boston
Bruins top centerman David Krejci is recovering from an undisclosed injury, and defenseman Adam McQuaid availability will be a game time decision. He re-injured his neck when he fell against the boards at the RBC Center last week. Tyler Seguin will be centering the B's line. If McQuaid plays, he would replace Bartkowski.
From CSNNE.com, here is the lineup the Canes will be facing:
*Bartkowksi will be scratched if McQuaid plays. In addition to Krejci, defenseman Steve Kampfer is also out with an injury.
Links
- Bruins blog (Boston Globe) - Adam McQuaid game-time decision, David Krejci out
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Kaberle deserves cheers in Garden return - Joe Haggerty, CSNNE.com To boil it down to simplest terms on Kaberle: don’t hate, but appreciate.
- SBN's full Hurricanes vs Bruins coverage and our affiliate blog, Stanley Cup of Chowder
Other Stats of note
Points on the board
Five players are looking to extend 2-game point streaks for Carolina. With 1 G and 1A: Tim Brent, Joni Pitkanen, Brandon Sutter and Jiri Tlusty. Jussi Jokinen has 2 assists.
Pitkanen is two assists shy of 100 career Hurricanes assists.
Comparing goaltenders:
Cam Ward is 9-10-2, with a 2.78 GAA and two shutouts in 21 career appearances against Boston. Brian Boucher is 7-6-1 with a 2.44 GAA and two shutouts in 15 appearances against the Bruins.
Tuukka Rask is 2-0-0, with a 2.01 GAA in three career games vs Carolina. Tim Thomas: 10-9-1, 2.67 GAA with one shutout in 20 career games.
Special Teams
Between the Kaberle/Corvo storyline and with the Canes' special teams getting attention after the game in Buffalo Friday, here are the current numbers:
Carolina PP: 4-of-24 (16.7%) - tied for 15th
Carolina PK: 22-of-27 (81.5%) - 19th, but also has 2 shorthanded goals (tied for 1st)
Boston PP: 1-for-20 (5%) - tied for 26th
Boston PK: 2-for-19 (89.5%) - 7th. 1 SHG (tied for 3rd)
Tonight's Broadcasts
The game will be broadcast on Fox Sports Carolinas. The pregame show hosted by Bob Harwood starts at 6:30 with game set for 7pm. You can also hear it on 99.9 the Fan, hosted by Mike Maniscalco for the pre- and postgame news and views. Chuck Kaiton will have the play-by-play.
We'll have our live thread up at 6:30 as always open to all. Please stop by.
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Go Canes
…and way to go Chad, you really earned that spot on the top line with your…
….uh, the way you really contribute….
….well, your defense is…um… oh. well
Go Canes!
Sorry to continue to beat a dead horse, but Come On Mo! I like the 2nd line, the 3rd is doing well so ok, but LaRose on the 1st again. Its not even all about LaRose anymore, its the freaking group. You have Staal who plays down low, Poni who does his best around the net, and LaRose who likes to crash the net. If the puck is turned over, that’s going to leave the defenseman with no forward support if all are down low!
Some managers manage using the carrot, Mo manages by using "The Stick."
Of course I’d rather not have LaRose on our top line but that’s been talked about enough where I’m not going to say anything more about it.
I would, however, like to see Stewart get some more ice time. He’s looked quicker than he did in preseason and would like to see what he could do possibly with Sutter and Tlusty on the third line. On the other hand, that fourth line should be able to throw its weight around and at least provide some hits and energy.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.
This is really getting old
Ya know – it’s really getting stale coming on here. I love the articles, videos, and sound bites and love the writing. I used to love reading the comments because I usually found that I could learn something. What I learn now EVERY SINGLE TIME is that y’all have to have a whipping boy. 4 comments posted before this one – and 3 are the same repetitive, boring, sarcastic comments about LaRose. And if it’s not about LaRose, then it’s Mo that people are trashing. Is there a possibility that we as a fan base could possibly be intelligent enough to comment on something other than 1 player and 1 coach? Surely you have something more to add rather than the same lame comments day after day after day… Or at least – you used to.
by caniacmum on Oct 18, 2011 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
Well said!
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting"..........holy cow.......what a ride!"
Then lets change it! What’s another insightful topic to discuss?
Some managers manage using the carrot, Mo manages by using "The Stick."
well, as opposed to complaining about Rosie on the 1st, i’ll state that, if hes not on the 4th, as the current roster is put together I’d rather him be on the 1st than the 2nd or 3rd. The 2nd line of Jokinen, Skinner, Ruutu is obviously a complete line. Rosie isnt defensively responsible enough for the 3rd line. The only swap to be made at this point is Rosie to the 4th and Stewart to the 1st, but Im guessing Staal has some input here. If Rosie is who Staal wants then so be it. I think Rosie’s energy and peskiness, and willingness to bang bodies will create room for Staal and Poni. I also expect that if there is going to be a mid game shake up it’d be a LaRose/Stewart swap.
In my post above, I said that I like the 2nd line and think the 3rd line is doing well right now. I’m just not a fan of having 3 guys that like to play down low on a line that has resulted in all but 1 even strength goal against. I don’t think that is a wise way of trying to correct a problem.
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 18, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Besides, you’ve taken Boston’s whipping boy from last season.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 18, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well here we go again...
1. Will Rosie meet,equal or defy the odds and do/preform better than the Caniac Nation suspects ?
2. If McQuiad plays will he try to get the best of Skinner,or will Skinner “body slam” McQuaid yet again by out playing him ?
3. Speaking of Skinner will the “finnish sandwhich” rekindle what has worked very well in the recent past ?
4.Will Brett Sutter Show Mo that he was correct in calling him up?
5.Will kabs & the blue steel help shut down the likes of Seids & Bart?
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by CaniacSteve on Oct 18, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
#4...
I would imagine Maurice—while he certainly had input—did not make the final call on that choice.
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, that Boston power play is brutal. I thought we had it rough, 1 for 20? Not sure if Corvo was brought in to help with that but it don’t seem to be working for them early on.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 18, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it can’t go much worse than 2 years ago, so
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 18, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Corvo was brought in as a solid all-around defenseman.
He replaced Kaberle, who in Boston and now here in Carolina has been a solid, well, nothing.
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s still early. The Bs aren’t tearing it up and neither is their PP thus far. Hard to draw conclusions at this point.
I'd still take Corvo (for HALF THE SALARY!) in a heartbeat.
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Here ya go -
New topics for conversation (had to go research a bit)
- I would think Skins moved off Staal’s line is a big deal – and Poni moving up. How will that effect the matchup with Chara with Corvo on the 2nd pairing tonight?
- Will Faulk will get back in anytime soon or be returned to Charlotte after the roadie? (as they did with Dalpe and Bowman last Ocotober)?
- Tuukka Rask – he’s nothing like TThomas. Only faced him twice, back in 09-10. Once was that final game of the season when Canes gave up 3 SHG (Canes 2 goals were from Cole and Dwyer). The other game was also against all the kids in March of 2010 (Cole had 2 goals). Thoughts?
- We saw part 1 last week: Thoughts on Kaberle vs Corvo when facing former team
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 18, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I think that moving 53 off the top line was a good move. It will hopefully get him less minutes against Chara/Boychuck, or will give Staal less minutes against them. Either way, splitting them up is good, imo.
Faulk needs to go down and play in the A. I hope that is what happens.
Rask is pretty much a gamer, and could easily wrestle the starters job from Tim Thomas if he falters long term. We aren’t “catching a break” if he is net, IMO.
Another question is, why is Seids in the 3rd pairing. I thought he played well with Chara?
To be fair...
“Third line” or not, Seidenberg leads the Bruins skaters in TOI, about :45 ahead of Chara.
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the idea of separating Staal and Skinner for this game to keep Skinner away from Chara. Staals had success against Chara in the past, but I also like moving Poni up to the top line to add a little size against Boston. Since Rosies gonna be on the top line, hopefully he can be in young Seguins grill all night long and get him off his game, if that doesnt work, maybe he can work his peskiness on Looch and draw a few penalties. Regarding Faulk, I believe that he needs a little seasoning in the “A”. Maybe take a look at where were at around the deadline, and if we can move a dman (Kaberle?) out for a good return, by then he’ll have the confidence from playing in the “A” that he’ll be able to step right in.
You’re probably right about Faulk being best off playing in the AHL (playing a lot for part of this season) and I’ve been in favor of that, but it would be interesting to see how he would play for the Canes after watching a couple of games from the press box. He will probably be a bit calmer and have a better idea of the tendencies of his potential D partners. He’s so talented I’d kind of like another look at him in a Canes’ uniform before he’s sent down.
by curiouscanesfan on Oct 18, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Skins back with the Finns is something we’ve all been wanting to see again and I, for one, am VERY happy that it’s finally happening. Poni and Staal had some chemistry in the preseason, so I’m hopeful that line will get some production. I think Poni may have been moved up to try to lessen the effects of Chara a bit – but we all know Chad will be the one pestering him as much as he is able.
If McBain keeps playing and improving the way he has been, I see Faulk going to CLT after the road trip – IF Joslin is truly healthy enough to play if needed. I’d really like to see Joslin get into a game sometime soon.
Rask is solid and very good. His horizontal play is outstanding and he’s quick getting back on his feet – he defends wraparounds very well. I think he’s the strongest backup goalie in the league and we aren’t catching much of a break with him in goal.
I think now that the first game of Kabs and Corvo playing against their former team got the butterflies out. I do worry that Corvo seems to play so well against former teams as he stated in his interview above. Hope he doesn’t capitalize on that tonight!
It is interesting what they are doing with Faulk. Are they keeping him around because Joslin’s mono still has him behind schedule or what?
Some managers manage using the carrot, Mo manages by using "The Stick."
They probably want to make sure he's got a good enough handle on the defensive system that he won't lose his touch after a stint in Charlotte.
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
FAULK $$
Any thought that they are ‘rewarding’ Faulk by giving him 10 or so games with tha Canes..he’ll probably make as much for those games as the rest of the year with the Checkers.
No way.
In the same reason I don’t think they’d make a decision NOT to pay somebody based on money alone, I don’t think they’d do the opposite, either.
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's a new topic!
When are they going to try “The Boy Wonder,” Skinner at center? I have read many comments/complaints over the years that we don’t have a good enough playmaking center. Skinner is definitely a playmaker, so when does he get his shot at that position?
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When he becomes reliable enough defensively.And wins faceoffs consistent with his offensive skillset. I think it’s just a mismatch of his development on those issues.
One comparison I was thinking about: 2008 Calder trophy winner Patrick Kane was moved to center lat week. That’s after 4 seasons as a wing (including a Stanley Cup winning goal).
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 18, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Kane’s been doing very well in that respect. I think I read recently that he has a higher FO% than his partner Toews.
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Who’d a thunk it? From same draft class as Sutter, am I right? Still really young.
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 18, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Meant to add: Seguin as #1 center is winning less than 44%. That hurts Lucic and Horton too. I guess that’s the comparison to think about.
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by Carolyn Christians on Oct 18, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
When he grows another inch or two and gains another 10-15 pounds?
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
When he grows another inch or two and gains another 10-15 pounds?
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Shaky.....Shaky
Time to blow the dust of the ever fickle and not so trustworthy eight-ball and get a comment on tonights game……………“Concentrate and ask again”, so this is how it’s going to be ol great and powerful ball……one more time shaky….. shaky…… shaky “Without a doubt”.
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Here’s an idea. How about when Dalpe comes back, we move Stewart and Brent to the first line, and then move Staal and Poni down to the fourth line.
My question: What are we doing with Joslin/Faulk.
Joslin is a serviceable young player who has the potential to be more than a 6th/7th guy. In my opinion, he has a higher ceiling and more value/skill than Harrison. Harrison will not be switched because he is Mo Alum, but something needs to happen.
Faulk just needs to be sent to Charlotte and given #1 D time.
Absolutely no need to have 2 young, promising D riding the pine.
I think Faulk will go to CLT after the road trip as long as McBain continues to play well. Harrison isn’t being switched because he’s clearly been playing quite well and continues to improve, though at some point he may sit in order to play Joslin. I’m not entirely convinced that Joslin is game-ready at this point.
by caniacmum on Oct 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is Kaberle game-ready yet? just kidding around everyone!
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by PackPride17 on Oct 18, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ahuh. You mean 2011 Stanley Cup Champion Tomas Kaberle?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 18, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Power-play specialist and offensive defenseman extraordinaire?
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The Canes have a problem. They aren’t currently set to go into next year with Kaberle, Pitkanen, Joslin, Faulk, Murphy, McBain, and Harrison. That just isn’t happening unless they are going for a top-3 Draft pick. After this season, our Defensive stalwarts in Gleason and Allen are both potentially gone to UFA and our young D that ooze offensive potential in Faulk and Murphy will be ready to go.
The time will come in the next year when the Canes need to look to trade an offensive D and prospects/picks for a star defensive D or one with that potential.
Just kidding?
You mean you know he clearly isn’t?
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Harrison has also been one of our best four defensemen this year, but who's counting?
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 18, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Still barely a 7th D man at best on any Cup contender. Maybe I have higher hopes for Joslin but I believe his PP ability, extremely hard shot, as well as physical play gives him the potential to be more.
Most "Cup contenders" can afford six better defensemen.
We can’t. I don’t disagree that Joslin has solid potential as a #4/#5 guy, but Harrison is playing well now, and we need to capitalize on that while we can.
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 19, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I too feel that
Faulk will go down soon, and Joslin i feel bad for the guy aas he is dependable and has done preety much what the Bench has asked of and from him…but time and a few more games will tell won’t it !!
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Yep – that was my point to the post as well. He’s playing because of that – not because he’s a Mo alum. And – he keeps getting better.
Agreed. Harrison is a great story. He’s proved himself with a lot of skeptics watching, me included.
by curiouscanesfan on Oct 18, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Joslin really any different? The kid couldn’t crack SJ roster and came over to provide a solid, physical presence and give our D a much needed boost (both offensively and defensively from the back end) at the end of last year.
Joslin had the same +/-, the exact same TOI, and had one less point than Harrison in less than half the games last year with the Canes. This isn’t even mentioning that he is clearly a superior PP option.
Harrison has played OK this year, but I don’t see where the overwhelming support is coming from. Gleason and Allen are clearly superior shutdown options, McBain has been playing great, Pitkanen has been on fire… Harrison is playing better than Kaberle but that is about it (and frankly not that hard).
I don't see why you're valuing Joslin's play from five months ago more than Harrison's play right now.
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 19, 2011 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Correct
I too think Joslin has better Potential at both ends. There is no argument right now though—Harrison is better again than last year. he knew the threat from Joslin, he went to Roberts Camp, and he’s stronger and faster. He’s also now working his offensive game—it’s better. Harrison now has a goal, led the team in blocked shots last night, and is doing everything we need a defender to do.
I agree with JJ—if given the chance, and with this competition and new coach, i think Joslin can improve and will do well. But Harrison has been a little better than OK to be honest….
Amen on that for sure !!
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Keeping Joslin on the roster keeps him from having to clear waivers to go the A. He would not clear. I like the decision to keep him here to recover from mono and regain strength to play when or if another dman is injured. Keeping Faulk and only 9 forwards allowed Brett Sutter to be called up on an emergency basis without waivers to replace Dalpe. There is more than meets the eye on every roster decision made. Kudos to the roster management decisions being made. Don’t you love it when a plan comes together.
Once he’s fully recovered they can still send him down for a conditioning stint without waivers, correct?
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by Jamie Kellner on Oct 18, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
Because he has not been on the IL, he does not qualify for a conditioning stint.
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by MichaelProcton on Oct 19, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Duh, of course. Makes perfect sense in hindsight.
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by Jamie Kellner on Oct 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
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