Game Analysis: Back-To-Backs Vs. New Jersey, At Pittsburgh
The Carolina Hurricanes came out of the holiday break with a win Monday over the New Jersey Devils, 4-2, but looked like a team with tired legs Tuesday, falling to Pittsburgh by the same score. Tuomo Ruutu scored both nights, pushing his goal-scoring streak to four games and his point streak to six, and Cam Ward was credited with a rare goaltender goal on an odd empty-net play in the Devils game.
The split puts Carolina's record at 12-20-6 for 30 points, ranking 14th in the Eastern Conference and 27th in the NHL.
Three Observations
1. Ruutu's great play of late has him first on the Canes in goals with 14 (tied for 22nd in the NHL) and tied for second with Jussi Jokinen in points with 22. He is thriving in coach Kirk Muller's system and has been Carolina's best player of late. So the question is what to do with Ruutu, an impending unrestricted free agent, in the long term? He's an obvious fan favorite and is entering the prime of his career (he will be 29 on Feb. 16), but with Carolina already a long shot for the postseason, the return for him at the deadline could be immense. Looking down the list of 2012 UFAs, Ruutu stands out as the best player available among the teams looking like probable sellers. Based on past deadline trades, the Canes would likely land a first-round pick plus more to part with Ruutu, who they could then try to re-sign, if they wish, in the offseason. Either way, they are at risk of losing Ruutu for the 2012-13 season and beyond, so cashing in on his value probably makes the most sense.
2. Justin Peters return to the Carolina nets was an impressive one when looking at the numbers. He stopped 48 of 52 shots and kept the Hurricanes in the game through two periods. But the issues that made the acquisition of Brian Boucher a necessity this offseason were evident again as Peters gave up rebounds on the majority of the shots he faced. One can't fault Peters for the loss to Pittsburgh, but his ability to absorb shots or direct shots out of harm's way was missing Tuesday. Peters did a good job of simplifying his game and focusing on stopping the puck, but on most nights in the NHL that number of rebounds will start to end up in your net.
3. Carolina's power play now ranks last in the NHL at a woeful 12.4 percent. It had shown signs of life under Muller, but clearly the prolonged absences of Jeff Skinner and Joni Pitkanen have hurt the Canes with the man advantage. The main culprit, however, is Eric Staal, who has just five power play points this year after averaging 29.5 in the six previous post-lockout seasons and never registering less than 23 points in that time frame. Yes, Skinner and Pitkanen would help, but at the end of the day Muller needs Staal to start scoring with the man advantage.
Number To Know
15 — Players with one career goal with the Hurricanes, a list that Ward joined after he was credited with one when New Jersey's Ilya Kovalchuk scored an own goal with the Devils net empty late in Monday's 4-2 Carolina win. Some other notables with one career goal with the Canes: current teammates Jaroslav Spacek and Justin Faulk; 10-game flameouts Patrick O`Sullivan and Anson Carter; and Brad Fast and Damien Surma, who scored in just one and two games, respectively, with the Canes — the only NHL action they have seen.
Plus
Brandon Sutter — Sutter did his part on back-to-back nights, scoring a shorthanded goal against the Devils and doing his best to keep Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin-James Neal-Chris Kunitz line in check Tuesday. The trio finished with a combined five points and 18 shots, but other than allowing Malkin's cross-ice feed on Steve Sullivan's go-ahead power play goal, Sutter was able to keep the Pens' big line on the periphery and out of the danger zones most of the night.
Minus
Eric Staal — The Carolina captain was kept off the score sheet and managed just three shots in the two games, making it five games he has not registered a point. Starting with a goal on Nov. 27, Staal had registered 10 points in eight games. But he has since been shut down as Muller has been unable to get his best player going with various linemates. He also finished both games below 50 percent on faceoffs, the one aspect of his game this season that has been greatly improved.
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Time to Rethink Extensions
Ruutu’s situation is such that Jim Rutherford needs to rethink his policy against midseason extensions. He should extend Ruutu’s contract midseason (under the present CBA the new contract begins when the present contract expires).
If we could rent him to playoff contender and get him back, I am all for it. I love #15, however this is a rebuilding year, there is no reason to not utilize all assets.
I believe in strength. I believe in unity. And if that strength, that unity of purpose, demands a uniformity of thought, word and deed then so be it.
by Douchebag St John on Dec 28, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely not. Sounds good in theory, but the chances of us getting him back are very slim. IMO, the chances of us getting him back if he reaches free agency are low.
That is the issue though, it is 100% in his hands and the vast majority of players having career pending UFA years (as Ruutu is) test the market on July 1. Rutherford can try all he wants to sign him, but it is in Ruutu’s hands.
If there is even a slim chance Ruutu will test the market, the Canes HAVE to trade him. The extra 1st Round pick and prospect means too much to let him walk for nothing. Especially this year when a mid 1st Rounder will score a great D prospect like Olli Maata.
by JussiJuice on Dec 28, 2011 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rebuilding
Rebuilding a team begins with having a clear vision. For the Hurricanes, the lack of upper end talent on the first line has been a major issue; or more precisely, upper end talent that can mesh with Staal. Muller has Dalpe up with Staal and that is a great development. The Skinner/Ruutu/Jokinen line has been excellent. the Hurricanes have more than enough talent for the third line and the fourth line. Trading Ruutu takes a significant problem, and makes is geometrically worse. This type of deconstruction will haunt the Hurricanes if it occurs.
Does Ruutu want to come back to Raleigh?
I think that question needs to be answered first. If he likes playing here, his Finnish teammates just signed 3 year contracts, and there is a future for this team, then maybe that helps (thank goodness we are no longer writing about the Hartford Whalers). Given that he would resign, would he resign after being traded? If the odds are good, then I would let him go for a first and a player, call up another Checker to get experience while Ruu is gone, and everyone wins. Remember that 2 of the numbers in the rafters of the RBC Center were loaned out as well – 2 and 10.
The PP is clicking at 9.6% at home and our record is 8-10-2 while the PP is 15.8% successful away, however, the record has not improved at 4-10-4.
Seems like the same 1st two lines as in the game are going out for the power play for the last few games. Why doesn’t he switch them up a little to try something differnent? I always thought for the PP Jokinen and Staal would be a good combo, however, they have not seen them together since the beginning of the year when Skinner joined them.
by hotchipsnsalsa on Dec 28, 2011 12:56 PM EST reply actions
Regarding Peters Play...
I had to attend a function for work last nite, so I didn’t get to see the game. I was listening to Chuck Kaiton last nite as I was driving home in the 3rd period, when he started to talk about Peters in a very serious tone and said: “Peters is going to court tomorrow to sue his Teams defence for lack of support…” I thought I was gonna die laughing! Never saw it coming. Funny stuff. Just thought I’d throw that out there, after looking at the shot totals for each team. I thought it had to be a misprint.
Priceless!
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC
by hurricanefever on Dec 28, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
He was definitely hung out to dry … I certainly wasn’t pointing the finger at him for the loss, but at the same time it wasn’t a stellar performance from what I saw. It was almost like he was just trying to survive it (which, I guess, he was).
by Cory Lavalette on Dec 28, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Survive…….That might be said for the whole team…..sort of everyone throwing themselves on hand grenades being lobbed at them at a fairly steady clip for the entire night. Without that “taking one for the team” effort the score could have mirrored the USA/Denmark Jr game on Monday with the Canes playing the role of Denmark.
Peters was laboring most of the night after the first 10 minutes or so. I noticed he was constantly gasping for air. I was thinking that for this game changing on the fly for goaltenders might have been a good idea.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC
by hurricanefever on Dec 28, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
From my vantage point (take it for what it’s worth) I thought he looked really good at the start of the game. But as things (namely the shot count) started to get away from us, he had a much more desperate look. A little more swimming, a little more flopping. A little less steady.
The whole team sort of took on that look IMO.
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
I just thought there wasn’t much rebound control, and to me that’s the huge difference in NHL and non-NHL goalies. Lots of guys can stop initial shots, but it’s not letting those rebounds kick out to scoring areas that separates the good from the great.
by Cory Lavalette on Dec 28, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
wonder how many shots on goal by pitt were off rebounds?
LET'S GO CANES -- THE SEASON AIN'T OVER YET!!!
by Capt. Stinky on Dec 28, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I hear you and agree. I liked what I saw early on, but as the game went on and things tilted in Pittsburgh’s favor, I definitely thought rebound control slipped.
"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."
A little more swimming, a little more flopping
At one point with Malkin behind the net he lost his balance and fell on his back. He reminded of a turtle on his back as he panicked and tried to quickly clamber to his feet without much luck.
by hotchipsnsalsa on Dec 28, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
That is exactly why we sent him back to the AHL. Peters looked fine to start but then he began to revert to his old self. That 2-on-1 goal where he dived flat onto the ice is the epitome of his problem.
Peters did an amazingly good job when being bombarded with shots from one of the NHL’s best teams; and in a game in which the Hurricanes were coming off an exhausting win the night before. Granted, there were some plays among the innumerable shots where Peters in hindsight should have used different positioning; but he kept the team in the game.
j Peters
i didnt like his play. some of the goals if he would of just moved over n blocked the shot instead of diving head first arms going everywhere for the puck to go right over his head. he was flopping all over the place. he is not NHL ready. i thought murphy looked better on the few shots he got but thats just it- few shots. Really missing Bouch, Skins, and Joni
by jerry6racing on Dec 28, 2011 8:20 PM EST via Android app reply actions
murphy's stats
In 36 minutes of NHL play Murphy has seen 9 shots with an 1.00% save percentage. He also has 1 loss in a game where he gave up zero goals. Peters saw 9 shots 7 minutes into last nites game with the same save percentage. Peters managed to get very low and small too often. But he faced a night when it was virtually raining pucks. Few goal tenders in the NHL or AHL have seen such a deluge. Peters one game save percentage is .923, which in a one game sample size means little. A bit too early too judge either. Looks like we wait till next year to retest the Boucher as backup plan. His $.9mil contract is guaranted through next year.
wasnt really saying that Murphy would of done better i just dont like peters panic in net. A certain Boston goalie is the only one ive seen dive around aggressive and still consistently stop pucks. just my opinion i guess.
by jerry6racing on Dec 29, 2011 9:58 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
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Until the NBA adds goaltenders, sideboards and checking I won’t be watching. More boring than Paul Maurice hockey. By a lot.
+1
I’d rather watch Mo’s brand of hockey than the NBA. At least I’ll see some defense and passing. Any sport were goal tending is not allowed is not for me!
hey canes country must be hittin the big time — we’re gettin spammed!!!
LET'S GO CANES -- THE SEASON AIN'T OVER YET!!!
by Capt. Stinky on Dec 29, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Replace free-throw shooting fouls with 2-minute minors and restrict each team to 1 timeout and maybe I’ll watch again.
by drifterscape on Dec 29, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think Ruutu is gone
Yahoo puck daddy trade rumors said their are at least 3 teams interested in Ruutu and 2 in Gleason, the good news is that you can use these teams to drive up the price. I am sure though before JR gives the OK on the trade he will talk with both players and their agents about next year. The bottom line is the offer we get for these guys are probably going to be too good to pass up! Even Allen could probably land some nice items for the future. On Staal I at least like that Mueller is trying to find someone to play with him and then hope he sticks with it. Still not sure why no one has really tried Ponk with him those two seem like it would work well.
Ruutu's Future with the Hurricanes
I have no doubt there will be legitimate offers for the Hurricanes. The bigger question is whether the Hurricanes should bite the bullet and negotiate an extension now with Ruutu or whether Jim Rutherford should deal Ruutu. The moment Ruutu leaves the Hurricanes, the team loses virtually all physicality at forward. Nobody in the system is close to Ruutu as a hitting forward. Johansen is the closest player I see to Ruutu in terms of being a scorer and a hitter. If the Hurricanes are serious about competing, they sign Ruutu up the way they did with Cam Ward and with Staal. If Ruutu goes, it’s a sign the Hurricanes organization is contemplating a fire sale and very significant, several year long rebuild.
It’s not a pretty thing to contemplate for fans hoping to see the Hurricanes be competitive next season. I hope against hope Puck Daddy is wrong about Jim Rutherford’s intentions. I do imagine at least two or Gleason, Allen, and Spacek will be dealt, probably at the trade deadline.
Just because he is traded doesn't mean he is Gone for Good
I hear you AD and agree with you about the value of Ruutu to the ’Canes, however how can a team that is looking at the future pass up a number one draft pick? I would expect the ’Canes to sign Ruutu in the off-season to a good deal, just like they did with his other Finnish buddies Joni and Jussi.
My guess is they get their cake (draft pick) and eat it too! (sign Ruutu in the off-season)
In Kirk we Trust
But nothing says Ruutu stays….(see Eric Cole)….at least you get something of value….I think it is more risky to keep him.
In Kirk we Trust
But nothing says Ruutu stays….(seeEric ColeRay Whitney)….at least you get something of value….I think it is more risky to keep him.
Fixed that for you.
I believe in strength. I believe in unity. And if that strength, that unity of purpose, demands a uniformity of thought, word and deed then so be it.
by Douchebag St John on Dec 29, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
If Ruutu is traded, he isn’t coming back.
We have this discussion every year with different players. Ray Whitney, Joni Pitkanen, Erik Cole. When was the last time a perfect rental actually worked out? That would be in 2003 with Glen Wesley.
Ruutu is a true top 6 forward. He can play 1st or 2nd line on essentially every team. He is our leading scorer. With Skinner out and Staal slumping, I would say he is our best forward. He is going to get massive offers from other teams. He is earning $4.4 million right now. And he is due a raise. If we wouldn’t pay $4.5 million for Cole, how are we going to pay the $5 million+ that Ruutu will easily garner on the open market?
The safest way to do this is to start negotiating with Ruutu’s agent now. If there is no chance for a contract extension by the trade deadline, ship him off and get something worthwhile in return. Over the off-season, try to resign him. I would not trade him without negotiating beforehand, and I wouldn’t keep him without negotiating beforehand.
And one more thing. If he were traded, what would we get in return. He’s a top 6 winger. Are we going to get a top 6 winger back? No. He will be a rental player if traded. Playoff teams aren’t going to give up much top talent to get a rental player. At best we are probably looking at a prospect and a pick. Is that worth it for Ruutu when we already have a (likely) high draft pick and tons of prospects?
I think you could get back a top 6 player for Ruutu, but it’s going to have to be a package deal of some sort. We would probably have to take back an underperforming player, but I think a deal could be worked out. For example:
With all of their UFA’s and RFA’s coming due at seasons end, would Colorado like to rid themselves of Paul Stastny’s contract? The Avs are just 2 points out of the 8th spot and Ruutu would provide them with some goal scoring and a physical element. Since they have no 1st round pick this draft, we would probably have to include one of our 2nd’s for it to work; but I think it is possible. And wouldn’t Stastny be a nice setup center for Skinner?
or
Since St. Louis looks playoff bound, they may look for a playoff rental. With their team’s injury history, Ruutu would be both a top 6 insurance policy and a player thats style of play would do well with Ken Hitchcock. Chris Stewart is a RFA at the end of the season and is underperforming so far (he’s averaging 0.42PPG this season while his NHL average is is 0.71PPG). Might St. Louis be willing to part with Stewart for Ruutu & a 3rd to better compete this season and in the playoffs? Stewart could be a power forward RW that can score around 30 goals a season for the Canes.
or
Montreal is always trying to make the playoffs and its obvious that their current team as constructed is not likely to do so. They have a few large contracts that really restrict them, so maybe they would be willing to trade one of those contracts for Ruutu who is having a career goal scoring year. Maybe Ruutu could help them sneek into the playoffs and since his contract expires, it would open up some room for them. Would they be willing to move Cammalleri for Ruutu & maybe Sanguinetti? Cammalleri has been a 30+ goal scorer and usually plays better with a big center. Maybe Cammalleri would provide Staal with a scorer to play with?
"We've got to risk implosion. We may explode into the biggest fireball this part of the galaxy has seen, but we've got to take that one in a million chance."
-- Captain Kirk in Star Trek 'The Naked Time'
#1 Draft Picks
There are #1 draft picks and there are #1 draft picks. It ranges from Skinner, Staal, and Cole, to Tanabe and frankly the Jack Johnson fiasco. From reading various posts, some people already have Boychuk in the misfire category, although I do not at all agree. In short, for this year’s draft the best chances of getting a player who a sane GM would trade Ruutu to get straight up might be only found in the top five. Obviously, I have tremendous regard for Ruutu; but I suspect as a business decision, if a GM offered Yakupov for Ruutu, Jim Rutherford would be compelled to say yes. Even then, it might backfire; i.e. see Jack Johnson. After somewhere around the tenth pick in the 2012 draft, although there are quite a few diamonds, they are much more risky and long term in their development. Ruutu has become a very special player for the Hurricanes. The Hurricanes helped Ruutu in his development; and he has helped the Hurricanes enormously.
Just to let you know, Cole was a 3rd round pick.
The real key to this whole Ruutu thing is what direction are the Canes going to go in? Are they going to do a true rebuild? If so, trade him away for a pick & prospect; yeah we’ll suck for a few more years, but eventually we should be good if we can actually develop players. If we are going to do a half rebuild, then we need to resign him to a good contract or trade him for a young, proven player that can contribute immediately and still grow. Or if we can try to resign him after the season and put together a similar lineup to this season & have the same discussion next year because all we did is put the same basic team on the ice against a much stronger conference/division.
"We've got to risk implosion. We may explode into the biggest fireball this part of the galaxy has seen, but we've got to take that one in a million chance."
-- Captain Kirk in Star Trek 'The Naked Time'
I agree that JR needs to negotiate now with Ruutu. If he can be resigned to a fair deal, then do it. If they are too far apart, trade him for something. The question is how much is Ruutu really worth to a budget team? Is he worth $4 million, $4.5 million, or $5 million? Because of the weak UFA market this summer, he would probably get more than his true value. And for every goal over 20 he scores, his agent is seeing more & more dollar signs.
If JR does end up trading Ruutu, he is going to need to acquire more than picks & prospects for him. He needs to acquire an asset that could help out as soon as next season. Even a 1st round pick will probably take at least 2 years before they can start helping the Hurricanes and a prospect is always a gamble. If the Canes are just looking for picks & prospects, the team is going to be in the same position as this season or maybe even worse for the next 2 seasons minimum.
"We've got to risk implosion. We may explode into the biggest fireball this part of the galaxy has seen, but we've got to take that one in a million chance."
-- Captain Kirk in Star Trek 'The Naked Time'
by PackPride17 on Dec 29, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
trade
i know Ruutu has great value but he also has that value to the canes. i cant see JR trading that value with out a big return. JR did say he was looking to trade a defenseman so i see Gleason being the player mostly on trade block
by jerry6racing on Dec 29, 2011 11:26 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
To Nashville: Gleason + Ruutu + Boychuk + 2nd
To Carolina: Jonathan Blum + Patrick Hornqvist
Nashville gets a great 2nd pairing D, the best rental winger on the market, a high-end offensive prospect who could step in soon, and a decent pick. Plus they clear space to sign Weber and Suter as well as make it clear to these 2 in picking up good rentals that they want a Cup soon.
Carolina gets a 24 year old former 30 goal-scoring RW who has been struggling a bit this year but fits on a 1st line and a potential top pairing D who blocks a lot of shots but still has offensive upside.
This is the type of trade I think we need for our rentals.
by JussiJuice on Dec 29, 2011 11:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know if I would do that deal. Blum is a talented, young defenseman; but he is not physical and only adds to our weak defense. Hornqvist is a very good player, but it seems like we are giving up a lot for him. I think a more reasonable deal would be Ruutu + a 2nd for Hornqvist.
And other than a playoff run this season, I don’t see how this helps Nashville. If they are willing to spend money, they have plenty of room for both Suter & Weber. What they really need is an offensive force for years to come to help round out their team. They have the defense, they have the goalie, they have the forward depth; they just need that top-notch forward.
"We've got to risk implosion. We may explode into the biggest fireball this part of the galaxy has seen, but we've got to take that one in a million chance."
-- Captain Kirk in Star Trek 'The Naked Time'
by PackPride17 on Dec 29, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Physicality
Ruutu’s physicality has been significantly tuned down this year. While I miss it, he probably doesn’t miss the ice packs. And I’m wondering if he’ll be forced into that role on a different team, if he is traded?
Harrumph
Ruu’s physicality has been impacted by the rule changes. He has spoken about this himself and the coaches are aware of it as well. When he was hitting guys hard last year he was just within the rules ( and you will recall he even had some boarding calls then). Now he is much more likely to get called and that has necessitated him being more selective. When you’ve been a banger your entire career that sort of change messes with your entire game. In my opinion it has only been over the last 10 games that he has looked more comfortable with his game and that has shown up on the scoresheet.
Jim Rutherford and Contract Extension Negotiations
It’s time for Jim Rutherford to accept the fact he has to negotiate contract extensions mid-season while there is a contract. If he had done so with Cole, he’d have realized, he had to trade Cole. If he had done so, he’d have realized he had to take the best offer for Whitney that Whitney would accept (if any). Losing Ruutu for no compensation is unacceptable; but failing to re-sign Ruutu is also unacceptable. Ruutu’s perhaps the most sought after player the Hurricanes have who is an UFA. The reason is that his a very difficult player to replace.
Hopefully, not only has Jim Rutherford learned his lesson from the Cole fiasco, but hopefully he has learned the right lesson. Big, fast, skilled physical forwards with character are hard to find. They are almost impossible to replace once they are nurtured and developed within a team’s structure. It’s a marketplace. The more rare the object, the more it costs.
Quick question… is it physically possible for a human being to actually bury their head in sand for 60 days and still survive? Cause if there is a way, if someone could explain to me how it works, I’d really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
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by Jamie Kellner on Dec 29, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yea…….the wait can kill ya……
It would be nice to fast forward to March 1 and see if all the fuss really has legs or not. JR is giving us too much time to think.
One thing I have come to realize…..there are just too many variables on this trading thing. JR has a great many places to start but yet he will be driven by what he can get in an open market. JR will have to make a hockey deal if he trades early. Dumping salary cannot be done since he is so close to the cap floor. I now see why a Bobby Ryan deal could have solved more than one problem; boost up the Canes payroll with his $5+mm salary so he could dump other salary later.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC
by hurricanefever on Dec 29, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
RFAs
Adding to the confusion and intrigue are RFAs. They can also be players with high salaries that expire. It’s complicated. Some teams may have to trade RFAs because they can’t afford to re-sign them even within the limitations of the RFA status under the current CBA. The next CBA may well address RFA status as well.
I can see that happening……
Although the numbers are a bit fuzzy, the Canes sit about $3.5mm above the floor right now. If JR trades all his UFA’s for picks and non-roster prospects (Gleason, Spacek, Allen, Poni and Ruutu) that puts him roughly $11MM UNDER the floor. These players are the very ones most of us have targeted for trade/rental.
It is pretty clear that JR has to look at hockey trades now that sends money one way and gets back a lot more. That will give him room to dump salary closer to the trade deadline. Of course, the more he takes back in salary now the more he can dump later for picks and prospects. All in all……this scenario is looking like an ideal setup for a blockbuster trade and for a franchise top winger. If JR does that he can then do these salary dumps and gather his picks/prospects later. Very interesting.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC
by hurricanefever on Dec 29, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Trading Players with Expiring Contracts
Among the RFAs with expiring contracts are some prized players, Neal, Chris Stewart, Kulemin, Voracek, and perhaps lesser known qualities, Latendresse (with his up and down career, he is still a prized player), Mueller (which his concussion issues, he is a question mark). All in all, it does lend itself to a blockbuster trade scenario. One hint was an interview where Jim Rutherford said it hurt the Hurricanes that they had to dip down into the second tier and third tier free agent pool.
Yea……I do remember that quote now…….had forgot it.
Ya know, old JR has a lot of tricks left, I think. Clearly he will need a dance partner but oh man……he sitting in a cat bird seat right now…..and I do mean these next 10-30 days. At the deadline he might be relegated to the minor deals because he could not get this big deal done. This might be big time poker behind the scenes assuming this direction of course.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC
by hurricanefever on Dec 29, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that JR needs to abandon his policy of not negotiating with players during the season. It is really limiting, and small market teams like the Canes need to use every trick in the book to be competitive. If JR wants a future with Ruutu, then for the sake of the team he must start talks with Ruutu’s camp. If they are too far apart at the deadline, sadly it is in the best interest for the team to move him on deadline day. The list of recent signing flubs is growing, perhaps it is time for a new look in the front office as well. The current mindset is what got this team to it’s lowly state, not PK’s budget.
Cap floor
JR making a trade at this point would mean another player(s) will have to come back in order to stay at or near where the team is now ,as far as teams that JR will most likely deal with is the teams that are near or over the cap ,so there are about 7 ,and the ones needing Dmen in return narrows the list.
Over the cap:
Calgary Flames 14 10 2 26 0 $64,869,168 $63,310,000 990,000
Los Angeles Kings 16 8 2 26 0 $63,415,000 $64,189,642 110,358
New York Rangers 15 8 2 25 0 $68,056,167 $64,260,334 39,666
Vancouver Canucks 15 8 2 25 0 $68,348,500 $64,332,499 -32,499
Pittsburgh Penguins 15 10 2 27 0 $68,545,000 $65,165,834 -865,834
Toronto Maple Leafs 17 8 3 28 0 $68,960,000 $65,661,667 1,361,667
Montreal Canadiens 16 10 2 28 0 $66,597,534 $65,878,843 1,578,843
Washington Capitals 14 9 2 25 0 $67,275,833 $66,615,406 2,315,406
Buffalo Sabres 16 10 2 28 0 $75,603,333 $68,115,357 3,815,357
Philadelphia Flyers 16 10 2 28 0 $71,574,999 $70,720,038 6,420,038

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