Stamkos Sinks Canes: Lightning 5, Hurricanes 2
by Bob Wage on Dec 31, 2011 11:42 PM EST
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PrintSteven Stamkos notched his second hat trick of the season and the Tampa Bay Lightning turned a close game into a laugher in the third period as they defeated the Carolina Hurricanes, 5-2 on Saturday night.
The contest was tied up at two before the Bolts exploded for two goals in the first 1:05 of the third -- scored within 22 seconds of each other -- and the Canes would get no closer.
After the home team jumped out to a 1-0 lead just three minutes and change into the game, the Canes would tie things up near the end of the period when Justin Faulk banged in the rebound of an Eric Staal shot. It was a powerplay goal and the young defenseman's second of the season.
The Canes took a 2-1 lead when Jay Harrison wristed in another powerplay goal early in the second. Staal set up this goal as well and found Harrison creeping in behind the defense with a nice pass.
But Stamkos would tie things up shortly after and the Bolts would go on to win their third game in a row.
The Canes will return to action on Tuesday night at the RBC against the Islanders.
Game Notes:
- At one time the game was 6-2, but a goal was taken off the board when Steve Downie was called for goalie interference at 7:52 in the third. Downie was in the crease banging away at the puck as it went into the net, but it was determined that Cam Ward was unable to play it. Downie ended up down on the ice and it looked like the goalie gave him the business as he released some frustration. Ward and Tim Brent were both called for roughing on the play.
- The Canes were outshot 32-26. Ward's save percentage, which is below .900, will not improve after this one. Alexei Ponikarovsky had a team high four shots.
- Faulk finished with over 23 minutes of ice time, tops on the team, and also had a team high three hits to go with his goal. The defenseman was beaten by Teddy Purcell though as somehow the winger broke into the clear between two Carolina blueliners to beat Ward with an easy goal in the third.
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Jaroslav Spacek had a team high four blocked shots.
Post game interviews to be found on Canes PR.com.
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Why we lost
Chad LaRose’s lack of discipline has caused two tied games to derail in the early third period in the last three games. The one this game occurred with only a few seconds left in the period. He was also -2 from being out there for both Stamkos goals. Is he really suited for a defensive shutdown line role?
Jay Harrison was -4 and deservedly so. He stood around for two of Stamkos’ goals and screened Ward on the Downie goal. He was also split, along with Faulk, on the Purcell goal.
Brutal Play
LaRose is now minus 19 and is next to last in the NHL in that statistic. Unfortunately, Staal at minus 22 is the worst in the NHL in that statistic. Harrison had one of his few bad games. LaRose is infuriatingly lacking in hockey I.Q. The only good news was that he only had three shifts in the third period. With Muller trying to instill accountability, it was an important message to the team. Under Muller, even the favorite sons of the Hurricanes organization have to earn time on the ice. Taking a penalty with five seconds to go in the second period away in a tied game is as bad judgment as one can get.
by abramsdoug on Jan 1, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That puts Chad at a nice even -40 over the past two seasons.
How low does he have to sink before we can stop pretending he’s a good defensive forward? Seriously, watching him in the defensive zone is brutal. He always drifts away from his responsibility to chase the puck and gets caught out of position. ALWAYS. Ray Ferraro was trashing him for this on the TSN broadcast against Edmonton a few weeks ago, but you won’t ever hear John or Tripp criticize the Compuware/Plymouth goldenboy.
This just proves that he is an overpaid fourth liner. He doesn’t belong anywhere near the top 2 lines. I have heard lots of people say that he is a great third line, defensive winger. That has been true at some points in his career, but he is definitely not there right now. The guy just can’t stay in his position or read plays well enough to be there. He is just an energy guy who can score goals…i.e. fourth line material.
I agree ,and you can go back to last year as well ,Rosey always takes a BAD penalty at the worst times possible ,if he was on the 4th line and Stewart was on Sutter’s line this game may have had another out come….Taking a penalty at 19:57! is inexcusable for a veteran player. TB came out with a slick sheet of ice and bang ,also Ward is not playing very good at all either.
I’ve held my tongue about LaRose. Well, I hold my tongue on this board, but I feel bad for the couple in front of us at the games when LaRose is on the ice. He has great energy, but he’s a liability on the ice the majority of the time. I’d love for people to stop pretending that he’s anything more than a fourth liner just because he’s a fan favorite. Stewart – don’t see him on the ice enough to really evaluate his defensive responsibilities, but he seems like a much better fit on Sutter’s line than LaRose. Better size, better hands, better skills.
Ward – he’s not at the top of his game right now. It happens to all goalies. If he’s going to have an off year, I’m glad it is this year. Why waste stellar performances on this season.
Stewart
Even with limited time on the ice, Stewart leads the team in +/-.
I have seen him get beat skating back to the D zone a few times (which can be said for most of the team this season), but he looks to be better positionally from my vantage point than LaRose. I think Stewart is being underutilized and would like to see what he can do with more time on the shutdown line and maybe on the PK.
positives
for those who aren’t duel dual fans like me:
*Nobody more than four points off a point per game pace on January 1st has made the playoffs since the lockout. This was the difference between 6 and 8. The results really don’t matter. Which we knew, but it sometimes needs reiterating. It’s all about finding positives for next year.
*Mancrush on Justin Faulk increases with a nice power play goal. That he was out there against the Stamkos/Downie/MSL line says something, even if he didn’t shut it down (which, as hurricane9 points out, was in no small part on his partner)
*The power play is really starting to look like a power play. Like, a for real power play. That alone is worth cheering.
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 1, 2012 1:03 AM EST reply actions
Teams just know that a quick strike in a close game against the Canes will almost always result in a meltdown. I’d really like to know what was said in the Bolts room during 2nd intermission. i’d bet it was something about coming out hard in the 3rd and the Canes will go away. Some positive signs for the future were shown by the Canes for sure, but overall the weak areas of the team were exposed again last night in full force. I don’t think the Bolts getting to the Conference Finals last year was an accident, they are a skilled, fast team. Muller and JR need to take this game as a good barometer. Now for the half -full version. Staal hit a post shooting from the right circle, a good sign that he is getting that look. That shot goes in maybe the result is different. Bowman is showing a very good hockey IQ. Ward stood up for himself in the crease. Faulk is ….. do I need to even say ? Dalpe I thought played well, despite not getting a point. Hustled after the puck, got some shots off. Tlusty is not the final answer on that top line, but he is not a scapegoat either.
Cam Ward losing form?
Okay, I said it, flame away…seriously, Cam went from one of the top-tier goalies in the NHL to simply “good” in less than two seasons. What is up?!?!? He absolutely cannot stop 1-on-1 rushes, and the fifth goal was a softie. Not that his defense isn’t without blame, for sure (rare bad, very bad game by Harrison in his own end) but Cammie gets paid the big bucks to play like a big boy. Come on, man.
Jussi? Aside from the video lovefest on FS Carolinas pre-game show, has anyone seen Jussi Jokinen lately? Zero assists, zero goals last night, -2 I think for the game, and a penalty in the first period for slashing.
Bowman did not have a good game, I thought. Sutter didn’t have a great game either, IMHO.
On the plus side, liking where Staal is right now. He seems to be digging himself out of his hole, and Dalpe is opening up the ice for him, now we just need someone on the other wing because Tlusty isn’t the answer.
Faulk is really, really impressive along the boards and making the little plays, in addition to his backhand/forehand goal. I’m gonna go get me a #28 jersey.
Wishing for a successful second-half of the season, and about 3-4 trades by JR to get us setup for next season.
I CAN'T BELIEVE STAAL FINALLY SCORED!!!
I remember hearing Jussi's name called once
literally once. and it was just him bringing the puck up ice, not doing anything special.
and I’m pretty sure my next jersey is Faulk as well. If I can afford one. Those name jerseys are a little out of my price range right now
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 1, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Was at the game last night
Faulk definitely looked solid. Made some real nice plays with puck and even out-accelerated Stamkos on a footrace. There was once or twice he absolutely threaded a breakout pass. The only thing I would like to see is a little more physicality. There was one play where Stamkos gave him a nasty shove from behind driving him into the boards face first. He turned and looked at Stamkos like he was going to give him a chop, but didn’t. Maybe with a little more seasoning he’ll learn to smack him in the mouth and stand up for himself.
As for the rest of the team, LaRose looked out of place. A faster, hungry team had him throwing the puck around like a Squirt out there. He had a chance on one play (possibly a powerplay) where he had two clear passing lanes and decided to take a slapshot from the blueline. The shot was deflected of course. And then he had a chance to go boards side and make a pass but instead tried to laser one up the gut for an icing.
I liked Bowman and Dalpe, though they got pushed off the puck more than once. But I see that as experience more than anything. Jussi made some nice plays, as did Ruutu but they did a lot of their work off the walls and high slot.
In all, the team worked the cycle well in the corners and on the boards. I also liked the puck movement on the PP.
One final note though, Poni in the second and Staal in the 3rd. If you’re under the hashmarks and no defenders are on you, the net has to be hit. Poni had time to turn and fire with Garon out of position for an easy goal. He missed by about 3 feet. Staal had the breakaway with light pressure. Missed the net. I’d rather see them just shoot five-hole instead of trying to pick corners. At least five-hole leaves a chance for a rebound.
In all, I liked certain points of the game, but the defense (most noticeably Faulk, Harrison, McBain and Allen) just looked a little lost at times as to where they should be and what to do. I like the effort the team gave for most of the game, but once it hit 3-2 they just seem to give up for a while. A few bad penalties will do that to you I suppose.
Thanks for checking in with your observations – always good to see what others notice!
That PPG from Stamkos at the start of the 3rd was the game changer.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jan 1, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
I really didn’t think the Canes played a bad overall game last night, but Tampa really capitalized on every chance. The defense needs an upgrade and it would be nice for Cam to actually steal a game for us.
I thought Staal had a good, but not great game. I like what I see from Dalpe, but he needs to get a little stronger. Tlusty really didn’t/doesn’t seem to fit with Staal & Dalpe. I would rather see Bowman there, but 3rd line is where he belongs, so he can work on chemistry with Sutter for next season.
And LaRose didn’t seem to have the best of games. 3rd line winger is really his ceiling, but 4th line is where he belongs. The bad thing is there are plenty of cheaper players that can do his role on the ice, but no one can replace hiss intangibles. Its really a difficult situation, but he needs to be traded and the team needs to move on to the next chapter.
Staal & Dalpe; The New Dynamic Duo or The Canes Crusaders!
by PackPride17 on Jan 1, 2012 8:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The shot that Tlusty fired high after being set up by Staal was a killer
Here's to a successful 2012!
by truheelzfan44 on Jan 1, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
OK, LaRose and the intangibles.
I’ll say they are overrated by JR—similar to how he’s overated some of his other favorites. So what are his strong points? He gives 100% each game. He hustles and works every shift. He finishes his checks. He’s not afraid to go to the dirty areas of the ice. He doesn’t pass up shot opportunities.
So Why isn’t he a better hockey player? He has poor hockey /ice vision—doesn’t see the pass, misses opportunities, takes bad penalties. He has limtied size—his hits have little effect (and for the majority only involve hitting defensemen against the boards AFTER they send the puck elsewhere), he easily get out muscled in puck battles or pushed aside in the defensive zone. He has subpar offensive skills—-inaccurate shots and passes. He takes bad penalties, often in poor circumstance—offensive zone, end of games and periods, when ahead, etc.
What does he supposedly good for acccording to JR—leadership? I don’t see it—the rest of the team isn’t picking up his work effort or hustle. He hasn’t seemed to provide and real mentorship to the prospects. He isn’t picking the team up out of any funk. He’s not motivating them to play a consistent 60 minutes….
What isn’t he doing that made the Canes a better team and earned him his spot? Getting under the skin of opponents, getting the opposition off their game by being a pest. It seems Rosie now believes he’s a top six player and a scorer and has forgotten that aspect of his game—it used to earn us PP opportunities, used to get good players off their game. We aren’t getting that now either.
To me all the negatives and missing aspects of his play means he isn’t the value to the team JR perceives. His +/- stats the last two years, his points and penalties taken the last two years, and lastly line drowning skills—reducing the effectiveness of lines he’s on over the 4th line means he’s really not helipng this team in a way that makes him worth keeping or playing every noght given the other options we have. Dwyer is a better third line player and ismuch better defensively ( it’s why he get’s more PK time, why he defends better with Sutter). Tlusty, Poni, Bowman and Dalpe better top 6/9 players.
La Rose is a Roster and Salary spot wasted on this team…
by Squeaky83 on Jan 1, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would suggest that LaRose does have value…to a circus. He’s like the lead clown. The lead clown who was adopted by the circus’ owner. Running around doing stupid stuff. Making the high-paid, high-wire guys laugh. There’s value there because it’s a show. People love this stuff. Pay to see it. Who cares what his stats are? Big ‘ol floppy shoes. Honkin’ a horn. Whoo-hoo.
Not to be confused with CoastalCane.
by coastalcaniac on Jan 2, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
This one hurt, again! In my anger, I tend to hunt around and check on the prospects at the junior level, or look at Checkers highlights, I hadn’t heard that Murphy had returned to action, (apologies, Carolyn, if I missed a click/clipping about that), but I see that he had an assist and was a +1 today!) Good to see! I continue to dream of one day in the near future seeing Faulk and Murphy manning the points on the powerplay unit together, snapping around passes and launching laser slap-shots, while Skinner and Rask pick up rebounds and snipe away. Ah.. until then..
Here's to a successful 2012!
On Murphy – Don’t know what I posted on him in the last month other than when he was invited to evaluation camp for Team Canada. He was among the last players cut – much to the surprise of several people and the reaction generated a lot of very good stories. He played for Kitchener starting a week or two before that – which may have gone under the radar with the Team Canada invite coming that same weekend.
Hopefully that brings everyone up to speed. Thanks for checking in.
The news hasn’t been all that active for a couple weeks, so I’ve just been tweeting. I’ll probably work on a C&C this week once everything returns to normal.
Rask is playing for Team Sweden. The Swedes won their group and has a bye to the Semis on Wednesday. Rask seems to be the 3rd line center and is more a PK guy for his team. (considering Rask is a #1 center on a middling WHL team, the Swedes are an elite group.)
The Swiss play tomorrow with Gregory Hofmann. Neither is the top rated forward on their team, but Hofmann is on the 2nd line, playing both PP and PK.
Twitter @HMof2
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 1, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Gotcha
Thanks for that info! glad to see murph back on the ice. Hopefully if nothing else, the national game experience helps the confidence of rask and hofmann no matter where theyre slotted
Here's to a successful 2012!
by truheelzfan44 on Jan 1, 2012 11:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rask, Forsberg, and Collberg
Rask is on the third line with Collberg and Forsberg. Forsberg is projected by some analysts to be a top five pick in the 2012 draft. He is probably most commonly ranked as the fourth best forward of the 2012 draft behind Yakupov, Girgorenko, and Galchenyuk. Collberg is also getting very positive attention. Sweden’s coach tends to have very formalistic views of the roles he wants his forwards to play. Collberg is reported to be around the 14th pick give or take. Mike Morreale has a mock draft in which he has Forsberg as the second forward taken in the draft. http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=74629
Morreale is somewhat in the minority in ranking Forsberg ahead of Girgorenko and Galchenyuk. Forsberg could well be the Hurricanes pick in the 2012 draft.
I had read a segment about Forsberg in The Hockey News. Most if not all the mocks I’ve seen so far have Girgorenko AND Galchenyuk , or at least one of them, ahead of Forsberg. Hadn’t yet seen Morreale’s. Something to think about.
Here's to a successful 2012!
by truheelzfan44 on Jan 2, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Hockey Prospectus http://hockeyprospect.com/index.php/rankings.html
Hockey Prospectus http://hockeyprospect.com/index.php/rankings.html
Hockey Prospectus has a top thirty up on its website. It’s very interesting because Hockey Prospectus has now listed the top forwards in order of ranking as 1. Yakupov, 2. Girgensons, 3. Forsberg, 4. Galchenyuk, 5. Girgorenko, 6. Gaunce
This ranking is the highest I’ve seen Girgensons and Gaunce ranked.
1. Nail Yakupov – RW – Sarnia Sting (OHL)
2. Ryan Murray – LD – Everett Silvertips (WHL)*
3. Mathew Dumba – RD – Red Deer Rebels (WHL)
4. Zemgus Girgensons – RC – Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL)
5. Filip Forsberg LW – Leksand (SWE)
6. Alex Galchenyuk – LC – Sarnia Sting (OHL)*
7. Mikhail Grigorenko – LC – Quebec Remparts (QMJHL)
8. Brendan Gaunce – LC – Belleville Bulls (OHL)
9. Morgan Rielly – LD – Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)*
10. Cody Ceci – RD – Ottawa 67s (OHL)
Hockeys Future ISS listing
Here is a link to the ISS listing for December. I am very dubious about the accuracy of this listing despite my respect for Cory. I’ve never seen Galchenyuk out of the top ten. ISS has Galchenyuk ranked at 18.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/13515/iss_top30_risers_and_fallers_december2011/
Have you got any sites you can link me as to where you check out future prospects? I’d like to see what we have open to us for next season. Thanks in advance!
DiCecco,
As far as sites go, I follow the BC Eagles men’s hockey pretty regularly, mostly because of Dumoulin, but also because I have taken to rooting for them in previous frozen four’s for whatever reason. You can track player stats and game recaps on the BC Eagles men’s hockey site which is:
The same goes for the Kitchener Rangers, I follow their season somewhat regularly because of Murphy, and since it’s Skinner’s alma mater, just check out the Kitchener site for the stats and results, you can track Murphy there,
Murphy’s individual page on Kitchener’s site is:
As far as other stuff, I’m sure Cory L. and Carolyn would be more qualified to tell you about other prospect sources that they use, I know Hockey’s Future is a valuable resource for tracking prospects, and our own Cory L. writes there I do believe? Check that out:
Mostly, I just follow Kitchener and BC, while checking in on Rask occasionally with a Google search, or on the WHL site. Once you start looking around, you’ll find good info. Checking in on the Checkers and Everblades is sometimes valuable too.
Checkers-
Gah, I miss covering them. Hopefully when I’m back from college someday, I can bring you guys Checkers updates again If I find my way back there.
Hope that helps. I’m sure other members and Carolyn/Cory L. can help you out further if you need it. Happy hunting! :]
Here's to a successful 2012!
by truheelzfan44 on Jan 2, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Hm,
My links didn’t work! :/
Here's to a successful 2012!
by truheelzfan44 on Jan 2, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Hockey’s Future. Most of the Canes articles are written (expertly I might add) by our own Cory Lavalette.
Here’s the link to the Canes page.
twitter @jbk_ltd
by Jamie Kellner on Jan 2, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
All of the above are very useful sources and I check them often. Next season I think the following guys will be joining in next season, which is what you need to keep in mind for who’s available for trade.
Defense: Borderline AHL/NHL Brian Dumoulin, Ryan Murphy (who turns 19 in March), then likely to play in Charlotte: Danny Biega (Harvard), Austin Levi (Plymouth Whalers). Mark Alt is probably a little farther out. Not sure about Tommi Kivisto’s future.
I’ve read that Michal Jordan has exceeded expectations in Charlotte. Not sure whether that means he has solid NHL potential anytime soon.
Forwards: Victor Rask, then perhaps Brody Sutter (Lethbridge) and Gregory Hofmann. Mattias Lindstrom is also out there, playing back in the SEL this season. Boychuk is a real question mark.
They also need a plan for the goalie Frederik Andersen. But he’s under contract with Frolunda next season.
If you want to see more about who in Charlotte has an expiring contract, scroll down to the “non-roster players” section on the Canes page at Capgeek.com. Includes Boychuk, Sanguinetti, Brett Sutter, Chris Terry, Blanchard, Samson, Matsumoto.
Twitter @HMof2
by Carolyn Christians on Jan 2, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
So anyway
I had a fantastic night out with the misses and friends last night. I hope all of you left the stain of this game behind and had a nice New Year’s Evening.
This game seemed more of a mental issue. After last year and this year’s games against Tampa, when they scored in the third on the PP, watching the hats rain down, i can almost bet there was an “oh no, here we go again, another Tampa 3rd period takeover”….. And boom, we’re down two before any gut check and it get’s worse until the touchdown goal was reversed.
On the plus side, Bowman and Dalpe got more time. I agree with most of the comments above about needing some more strength, seasoning, whatever—that is what they are finally getting. I hope they keep getting their shot. I beleive Dalpe will develop into a good top six forward. Bowman looks good as a third liner who if he does find his previous scoring touch, maybe over time he moves up a line, maybe not. Faulk another young rookie looks very good, but still the occasional mistake—to be expected.
Wardo…. well, doesn’t seem to be in it mentally right now. Seems like his best focus is missing. Like it’s not worth it right now with this team. Not that it’s a concious decision, but when he was playing better, he was often the only one. When the team overall improves, I believe he will too, but right now, we will not be able to count on Cam stealing anything.
Continue coaching, continue assessing, continue working for the best draft pick as positives….
Squeak,
Im overall in agreement with all of those points. Even as a fan,the Stammer hat trick goal broke my back, this is it, i thought, stick a fork in us, now the whole crowd is pumped. similar on ice attitude? Stamkos is just one of those players who can take over a game and ignite a home crowd with a performance like last night. i too am thrilled to see dalpe and bowman get “trial by fire”, I expect their games to come a long way if they continue to see ice time this year. On Ward i completely agree. Think hes really struggling possibly overthinking on a struggling team, Stammer does shoot rockets, he was tested Saturday. From now on, ill take wins when they come and see where we end up in draft order by year’s end.. thanks for the provoking of thought, Squeak.
Here's to a successful 2012!
by truheelzfan44 on Jan 1, 2012 11:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ward was on early
go through the Raw Charge game thread and note how many times in the first period people bemoan only having one goal with as many nice chances as the Bolts got. But he broke with the rest of the team in the third. He’s definitely been hit and miss this season. A stinker against Winnipeg, an exceptional game against Vancouver, 4 goals on 19 shots against Phoenix. He’ll still steal his fair share, but it isn’t a nightly occurrence like it used to be.
I kinda felt most of the game like Tampa had the better of the play and was going to break through eventually (with the exception of a long stretch midway through the second period), but when it broke, the Canes broke.
But like you said, coaching, assessing. And power play! I can’t repeat this enough, power play! We draw a lot of penalties (a few that are just completely baffling), so it’s nice to see signs that that might be put to good use
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 2, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
well now..after recovering from an all day star wars marathon..now i can get back to ...HOCKEY !!!
man the game was doing decently until those 2 goals 44 seconds apart.was ands i do believe was the back breaker for Our Canes !! while Dalpe & Bowman and Faulk did well…players like harrison continue to chug along,and Stewart god bless him is working his butt of yet aside from Ruutu and the afore mentioned players..they other 13-14 of them aren’t stepping up as they should on a “consistant” basis…gee what a Skinner & Pumpkin head missing in action will do to a 1 dementional team…again and over all the canes are playing better since they no longer are playing MO style Hockey…but we, the fans still are not “totally satisfied” with the change over…after all we are talking about Professional & super interegent players here not a bunch of kids/rejects from the the bush leagues are we ? but still over all i am not giving up in the canes..but finishing at 500 for the season would be nice wouldn’t it ? or is the draft lottery/anmd 1st,seciond round pcks more important ? Thanks everybody..have a good day..
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I put in the link. Stupid program. It’s not working for me today. oh well, article on N&O about Skinner’s practice today.
so once skinner gets back, do we trade Poni to open up a spot on finns line, or move poni down with sutter?
I CAN'T BELIEVE STAAL FINALLY SCORED!!!
I was thinking maybe Poni moves up w/Staal and Tlusty moves down?
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by Carolyn Christians on Jan 2, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope that doesn’t happen. I would prefer to see Poni take Tlusty’s spot. I think Dalpe is working better with Staal and he adds a shooting element that Tlusty doesn’t bring. But then the question is; what happens to Tlusty? If he goes back to the 3rd line, what happens to Bowman?
I just think that you have to keep Dalpe with Staal so they can develop chemistry for next season. I seriously doubt PK/JR are going to actually get a true 1st liner for Staal, so let those 2 develop something. Trade Poni if you have to, but keep our most talented prospect with Staal.
Staal & Dalpe; The New Dynamic Duo or The Canes Crusaders!
by PackPride17 on Jan 2, 2012 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
PP17
….wow—see you are thinking exactly like the org seems to…. What happens to Bowman if Tlusty goes to the third line? Or: I wonder what will happen to to Stewart or Nodl on the 4th line when Rosie is put where he belongs once Skinner comes back?It’s sad we’re not asking: I wonder how Rosie will like the press box once Skinner come back????
Because to me the best team we can ice now, and for the future, has neither LaRose or Dwyer playing when Skinner is cleared to play and Dwyer comes back as well. This season is done as far as playoffs are concerned. Therefore we are coaching and molding for the future—for next year. Therefore, we need to see who we can expect to be playing next year out of our prospects who are as ready as they can be after their AHL success: Dalpe Bowman and Boychuck. Leave the two guys up now where they are—let them learn the system, the coaches, their teamates and see if they find their groove at this level. If they do—boom, roster spot—great. If not—trade addition/AHL fodder, I don’t care.
But having Rosie play out this year?? We know what he can do. We know even more what he can’t do….. So why play him. See if he can be a superstar in the AHL. I know we are budget, PK doesn’t want to pay an AHLer 1.9 mil. But frankly, Larose can fill the void left by Dalpe, Bowman, and maybe Boychuk. Maybe we’ll get lucky and someone will grab him off waivers—-YAY!!!.
But is we could that how I’d play out the injury returns…..
Sorry I misread your post.
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by PackPride17 on Jan 2, 2012 3:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I like the points you made though. Not sure what happens to Bowman.
Depends how long till Dwyer is back I suppose. Nodl could also be scratched…? 13 forwards is not unheard of. :shrug:
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by Carolyn Christians on Jan 2, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I just put up a 7-sec video of Skinner taking the puck up the ice at practice, as captured by 7 yr old daughter’s new ipod. Sight for sore eyes.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jan 2, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s post-practice audio from Skinner. Audio 4:36
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by Carolyn Christians on Jan 2, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
And she did mighty fine too!
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC
by hurricanefever on Jan 2, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Cameo appearances for a split seconds at the start of Jamie, and the side of my head at the end.
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by Carolyn Christians on Jan 2, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Very nicely done by Girl7!
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by Jamie Kellner on Jan 2, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I’m aware this may be blasphemous but this Winter Classic game has been very dull so far. Not sure this is the type of game the NHL wanted to showcase. No real sustained offense from either team and just a real grinding game up to this point. Hopefully the Schenn goal will open some things up.
"I'm not going to waste my time with Tuukka Rask" - Cam Ward
These refs are doing everything they can to have the home team win this one. Ridiculous calls against the Rangers in the last 7 or 8 minutes of this game. Philly is getting away with everything on the other hand.
"I'm not going to waste my time with Tuukka Rask" - Cam Ward
I don’t find the Winter Classic entertaining in the least. It is as you say every year – no offense, grinding game, NBC announcers only talk about the shadows and the weather.
Ending was decent, but the referees were trying too hard.
ending was decent?!?!?
one of THE BEST endings to a high-profile game I ever saw! Come on, man, an empty net, one man advantage, PLUS a penalty shot in the waning seconds in a game between division rivals?!?!? GREAT ending to a game that does wonders for the exposure of the greatest game on earth.
I CAN'T BELIEVE STAAL FINALLY SCORED!!!
meh
would’ve done more wonders if the majority of the American public weren’t watching the Rose Bowl instead. Which was fantastic, by the way
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
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