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Draft Preview: Can Canes Strike Gold Again at Number 12?

TORONTO CANADA - JANUARY 19:  Nathan Beaulieu #28 of Team Orr skates away with the puck in a game against Team Cherry in the 2011 Home Hardware CHL/NHL Prospects game on January 19 2011 at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto Canada. (Photo by Claus Andersen/Getty Images)

Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN.  It's finally draft day and here at the Hilton in Minneapolis, the lobby is a buzz as fans, media types, NHL staff, and draft prospects, as well as their families, nervously wait for what is always an exciting first round on the draft floor. 

Of course, there is talk of possible trading, especially after the blockbusters that the Flyers pulled yesterday.  In the local paper, it's even rumored that the Wild could make a move.  They currently sit at 10, but don't have another pick until the third round. 

Now that the Flyers own the 8th spot, who are they interested in?  No one seems to know.

Nathan Beaulieu is moving on up

One particular player that seems to be getting a lot of interest, who is not already in the top five, is Nathan Beaulieu.  I spoke with him at the "Meet the Prospects" event yesterday and he said that 27 teams met with him at the combine and a few more interviewed him again afterward.

"Boston, Buffalo, Toronto, Minnesota, and Carolina met with me twice," said the defenseman.  "As a matter of fact, I just met with Carolina again today, (6/23)." 

At least one member of the family would not be disappointed if his son was selected by the Hurricanes.

"My dad golfs down in Carolina all the time," chuckled Beaulieu.  "It's a good team and I thought the interview went well."

Some scouts have told the blueliner that he is ready to play in the NHL now, some have said that he still needs work. 

"I know I need to work out and build myself up more and I'm willing to do what it takes to get bigger and stronger."

He led his junior team, the Memorial Cup winning Saint John Sea Dogs in plus/minus, (+44), but is considered an offensive first player.  The Canes seem very interested in him, but will he still be available at #12?

The Red Line Report has him at #18, the ISS at #14, and the CSS as the 5th best skater in North America.

Star-divide

Jeff Skinner plugs his former teammates

While in Las Vegas, I asked Jeff Skinner about his former teammates, Ryan Murphy and Gabriel Landeskog, and if he put in a good word for them to the Canes staff.

"I think we would have to move up to get them and I'm not sure about that," smiled Skinner.  "We have excellent people in charge of that and I think they do a pretty good job of it."

You can't argue with that point, especially after they picked the most recent Calder Trophy winner.

Skinner gave a brief rundown of what each player brings to the table. 

"Landeskog has been talked about a lot and I think he deserves every bit of it.  He's a special player and a special person.  He brings a lot of leadership to the team, other than the obvious things, like his skill and strength."

"With Murphy, the tools he has are unique to anyone that I remember playing against in the OHL.  He's so quick on his skates, quick and shifty.  There's a knock on him that he's too small, but then he always seems to beat the guy out of the corner, or somehow comes out with the puck, he's a talented, talented guy."

"I'm excited for both of them and I look forward to seeing where they end up."

Landeskog and Murphy returned the compliments about their former 'mate.

"Jeff was one of those guys who was not ranked very high in the rankings at first, but he worked hard and proved that those rankings really don't matter," said Murphy. "He always seemed to make a goal when we needed it the most, he would challenge guys to fights, he did it all for us in Kitchener.  He's a great hockey player and he's going to have a very long and successful career in the NHL."

"I'm very happy for Jeff and very proud of him," said Landeskog.  "He played very, very well this past season.  If it happens that somehow Carolina drafts me, then it happens.  And anything can happen with the trading and such, but I'll be happy no matter where I go."

Carolina should fare well at 12

There seems to be three groups of players in this draft, an elite top 5 or 6, then a sub-elite in the next 10 or so, then a broad mix of very good players who round out the next two to three rounds.  Carolina is fortunate that they should get a very good player in the 'sub-elite" category. 

But sometimes, those players turn out better than the "elite" ones. 

And as we've seen in past drafts, you never know what might happen.  While some players jump up, some drop down for whatever reason, and the Canes could end up with a Ryan Murphy, a Nathan Beaulieu, or even a Ryan Strome at number 12. 

Mark Scheifele's name is getting tossed around now.  He's another player who finished up strong and many feel is under-rated because he played on a bad Barrie team.  He's ranked number 12 by the Red Line Report.  The center had 75 points in 66 games, but he really excelled while playing for Team Canada with better linemates. 

The RLR also has JT Miller in the top ten at number 9.  They compare the US winger to Erik Cole.

But if these players and others move up, others will move down and that could create a great opportunity for the Hurricanes.

I'll be arriving at the draft early and will be covering the event from the media section of the draft floor.  We will have an open thread going here starting at 6 and I'll report any updates in that.  Cory will be at the RBC with the Hurricanes staff and will be providing his insight from the "war room".  

We will have interviews, reactions from the Hurricanes staff, and all the news as it happens right here at Canes Country.  Can Tony MacDonald and company find another Calder winner and will that player drop to 12?  We will see.

(meet a few of the prospects for yourselves)

 











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everyone can feel free to use this as the open thread until 6.

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for being on the ground in Minny

You’ve already made this day even more interesting, Bob, with the stuff on Landeskog, Murphy and Beaulieu. Beaulieu just met with the Canes for a third time? Landeskog mentioned the possibility of getting drafted by the Canes? We can dream.

by curiouscanesfan on Jun 24, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry for the confusion, Beaulieu met with Carolina for the second time yesterday. I’ll insert the exact date above to avoid further misconceptions.

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem.

The confusion isn’t from you but the NB quote:

“Boston, Buffalo, Toronto, Minnesota, and Carolina met with me twice,” said the defenseman. “As a matter of fact, I just met with Carolina again today.”

I was counting twice plus again as 3 times.

by curiouscanesfan on Jun 24, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I think he meant Carolina for the second time. He didn’t say he met with anyone three times. Easy to see it differently though.

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great coverage Bob.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 1:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ty

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just added some video for those who might be holding this thread open and have not refreshed.

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Bob, what do your powers of observation and instincts tell you about whom the Canes will pick

Bob, using all your powers of observation, instinct, and consultations with astrology, whom do you think the Canes will pick as the #12 selection?

by abramsdoug on Jun 24, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paul Branecky is tweeting that JR says there’s no telling who will be there at 12. Also said JR is sounding optimistic about signing UFAs and there may be an announcement of a signing today.

by curiouscanesfan on Jun 24, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not a huge believer in astrology but I’ll give it a shot. I think it’s obvious that they like Beaulieu, but he might not be there at 12.

McNeill’s name has been quiet, so that might make him a front runner.

Also, I think Duncan Siemens is a possibility. His name has not been out there as much as some other defensemen, but he brings some size and grit.

I honestly don’t think it will be Grimaldi, although Buffalo will probably pick him and he will turn into a superstar.

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I appreciate your willingness to give it a guess. The silence about McNeill could be interesting. Also, as you point out, it is a draft where anything could happen.

by abramsdoug on Jun 24, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cant wait to see who we pick up!

Hail to the Redskins!

by HTTR4LIFE on Jun 24, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Eric Brewer re-signed by Tampa. One less UFA D with top pairing potential available. The list is slim and lots of teams are looking. Looks like we may have to go the trade route.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 1:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Rudinos Tonight?

Couldn’t make it last year. Wondering what time I should arrive to get a seat?

by TedEBallGame on Jun 24, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Hypothetically, at what point in the Draft of Landeskog falling does JR pull the trigger to move up and take him? If it goes:

Edmonton – RNH
Colorado – Larsson
Florida – Huberdeau
NJ – Hamilton

Does JR talk to the Islanders about moving up? Their GM Garth Snow is no stranger to moving back in the Draft if the price is right.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

word is that Colorado won’t pass on Landeskog

by jfhammon on Jun 24, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their head of scouting said they had their minds made up 100%. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them take him, but it honestly wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see them take Adam Larsson (Erik Johnson + Larsson is an amazing top pairing for years to come) or Memorial Cup MVP Jonathan Huberdeau. Although if Colorado chose Huberdeau I believe Florida would take Landeskog.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is the right price in addition to our 12th pick?

by Squeaky83 on Jun 24, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

What if it was Ruutu (who the Canes are unlikely to retain next offseason and Landeskog instantly replace) + 12th Overall. That sounds like it would probably do it. If the Islanders wanted youth instead, 12th Overall + Boychuk + 42nd Overall.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Say it ain’t so. The Canes are better off keeping Ruutu and keeping their pick. Ruutu + McNeil or Schiefele is a better combination than Landeskog + nobody.

by curiouscanesfan on Jun 24, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Ruutu, but what I love about him will draw plenty of teams as a UFA next year which means the Canes won’t be keeping him. If JR had stated recently that he was part of the core, I’d feel better about keeping him… But he hasn’t. It seems he will go the way of Jussi and Pitkanen.

So it is more like 1 year of Ruutu + McNeill/Schiefele or Landeskog. I’d take Landeskog, we aren’t going to be a contender next year anyway with our budget.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you allowed to say that around here?
;-)

by Caniac1026 on Jun 24, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Landeskog = Ruutu with better scoring upside. Jerome Iginla is a common comparison for him. Natural RW with size, would have had 50 goals this year if not for injury, 6 goals in 7 Playoff games, very similar to Skinner’s statline last year except Landeskog has more grit and leadership ability.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh I agree, and he seems very confident and well-spoken. With Ruu’s tendancy for injury I’d almost be inclined to agree with the trade.
I was merely making a joke about the ladyfans here that would be sad to see Ruu go.

by Caniac1026 on Jun 24, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not just the lady fans… I will be quite sad as well. I’m pretty distraught over the whole Jussi situation as is (not to mention my Pitkanen jersey is about to become a relic).

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

little easier for me to let go of Juice, he’s good, but he didn’t almost lose his head his very first game at the RBC. I’ll never forget Ruu’s mangled mug after Raleigh – Night #1. I’d like for Ruu to stay around a long time as well.

by Caniac1026 on Jun 24, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll never forget Juice scoring on Brodeur with 0.2 seconds left. Easily top-3 as one of my favorite Canes moments ever. Gives me tingles just to think about how the building errupted when that happened.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unforgettable

I remember looking up at the clock as Pitkanen passed to Seids, and thinking he should have shot rather than passed – not enough time. Juise scores, and my brother and I, without cheering, just looked at each other with a “did that just happen?” look, while the rest of the building went nuts.

by 210beer on Jun 24, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iginla scored a goal a game and 136 points his last year of junior. Landeskog scored about half that. He is nowhere near the player that Iginla is. There will be time to trade Ruutu for something of value next season if the Canes are out of contention. I’d like the Canes to get Landeskog but find another way.

by curiouscanesfan on Jun 24, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

His Draft year Iginla only scored 33 goals and 71 points in 72 games.

Landeskog scored 36 goals and 66 points in 53 games this year.

At the exact same point in their career, I’d say Landeskog is actually ahead of Iginla. I can’t tell the future and say how many points Landeskog would get next year in the CHL (although he will likely be in the NHL). Would you guess that he wouldn’t improve?

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iginla was kept in junior for a year? That I didn’t expect.

by curiouscanesfan on Jun 24, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just different times I think… The NHL is going so young it is almost expected that the top-3 go directly to the NHL these days.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that another offensive blueliner would not be wise for this org. Now a strong two way D-man is another story. I think JR is very flexible right now. I wouldn’t be surprised at anything that happens tonight.

by Hockeydog on Jun 24, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Canes' effusive pre-draft praise for Skinner, silence on McNeil

The Canes were clear about their high opinion of Jeff Skinner last year.

The silence on McNeil is a remarkable contrast, especially with Paul Branecky saying he thinks the Canes will take somebody from this list:

    Nathan Beaulieu
    Jonas Brodin
    Sean Couturier
    Ryan Murphy
    Mark Scheifele
    Ryan Strome
    Mika Zibanejad

Branecky even says it seems we can rule out Bartschi, Klefbom, Olieksiak and Siemens.

If mock drafts mean anything, that list narrows the Canes’ choice at 12 down to Schiefele if it’s a forward. If Beaulieu doesn’t fall, it looks as though the Canes will pick an undersized defenseman. That is, unless Branecky is either conducting a disinformation campaign or knows that the Canes are going to move up for a shot at Zibanejad or Strome.

There’s very little overlap between the players the Canes’ profiled this year and the players who might be there at 12.

by curiouscanesfan on Jun 24, 2011 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting List

I found the absence of McNeill and Armia to be interesting. Paul has an excellent insight into the Canes thinking; so unless something comes out of left field, it looks like Scheifele is the only forward who will be around at the 12th pick.

by abramsdoug on Jun 24, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Biggest surprise of the draft so far: Scheifele to Winnepeg.

by hockeythoughts on Jun 24, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the free agent who's signing is Stillman

and the Canes are trading their first for Justin Williams and second + Boychuk for Ray Whitney.

by curiouscanesfan on Jun 24, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard Irbe quit as Washington’s goalie coach…. We need a backup right?

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is everybody else sitting, watching 3 different sites and waiting for something to happen? The flyers deal kinda got the ball rolling I think, and I had hoped more would follow. This is a huge draft for us and I was hoping for some moves to happen to improve our position, read get Landeskog.

by xlwino on Jun 24, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

You’ve seen the reports that the Flyers are trying to move up from the 8th spot? They’re just getting started.

by curiouscanesfan on Jun 24, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard they were after Stamkos, but nothing else.

by xlwino on Jun 24, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Avs trade JM Liles to Toronto for a 2nd Round pick

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

So that will take us out of that rumor for a while.

by xlwino on Jun 24, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can the Oilers pass on him? Definitely a future superstah.

by unyieldingflan on Jun 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

short enough to play for us.

by xlwino on Jun 24, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

But pretty thick at 269 lbs.

by unyieldingflan on Jun 24, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

voiceover by James Earl Jones

by Caniac1026 on Jun 24, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’d be great as a screen, no goalie wants that much ass in his face, we should take him. Although he may have problems getting onside, I’m betting speed isn’t his strong suit. Or, we could position him behind Cam’s glove so that high glove rap on him would go away. Then he’d be vezina worthy.

by xlwino on Jun 24, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, really?

Cory Lavalette
@corylav Cory Lavalette
Eklund: Am told the Leafs may pull the trigger on big deal. The names to look for Parise, Stamkos, and believe it or not… Eric Staal.

by Caniac1026 on Jun 24, 2011 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

at rudinos

Who’s here? Should be fun. Still can’t believe its been a year since I foolishly booed at the canes not picking fowler for “some figure skater” ;)
Just goes to show you how little i/we know about this stuff…

by chrisbrasfield on Jun 24, 2011 4:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Everyone either booed or was silent, so don’t feel bad; and I remember a guy at the bar saying to Ron the Ref, “who’s Jeff Skinner?” This year, when Murphy’s name was called, Rudinos went crazy. This year gave us a chance to give it up for the kid from Kitchener.

by hockeythoughts on Jun 24, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

here at the media section in the building. No one at the Canes table yet. They might still be interviewing prospects

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Canes have arrived and JR in full discussion mode right away. Now at Red Wings table talking with Ken Holland.

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

of course they could be discussing the weather

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heard it’s nice in St. Paul today.

by unyieldingflan on Jun 24, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is beautiful

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Joni’s rights? Word is they are looking for a D like him. Don’t see much on their roster that the Canes could use that would be available.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

always that chance.

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by Bob Wage on Jun 24, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny… I remember watching this same NHL Pre-Draft show on NHL Network last year and every commentator was raving about Cam Fowler as a surefire top-5 pick.

by JussiJuice on Jun 24, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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