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Challenges and Predictions for the Upcoming Season


I have been a long time lurker but a more recent commenter here at Canes Country.  As a long time Hurricanes fan, I've lived and died with and by this team.  So I thought I'd try my hand at a Fan Post to see what happens.  Here goes:

The 2011-2012 season is nearly upon us (well, okay, a month and a half away) and we've all been thinking about this "new" Hurricanes team.  When examining the roster, there are a few "new" faces as well as some "hopeful" youngsters trying to elbow their way onto the squad.  By my reading, we have 5 new Canes:

  1. Tim Brent
  2. Tomas Kaberle
  3. Alexi Ponikarovsky
  4. Anthony Stewart
  5. Brian Boucher

Additionally, there are any number of "Checkers" vying to get on the roster as well.  This group includes:

  1. Zac Dalpe
  2. Zach Boychuk
  3. Jerome Samson
  4. Drayson Bowman
  5. Riley Nash
  6. Bobby Sanguinetti

While probably unrealistic, guys like Ryan Murphy, Austin Levi, and Justin Faulk will all be trying to make cases for themselves in training camp.

So what are the Challenges facing this team going into camp and ultimately the season?

  1. The New Guys - how will they fit in?  What will they bring to the table?  Personally I believe that this will be one of our lesser issues.  Poni and Brent are known quantities to Maurice and Co.,  Kaberle as well.  These guys were picked up because we knew what they could do and felt they met a marked need for the organization.  Boucher is a professional and did a more than adequate job in Philly last year, even in the playoffs.  In his back-up role, this is a serious upgrade and will add 3 or 4 wins in 2011-2012.  Stewart is a wild card.  He's got lots of talent but it is yet to be seen as to whether or not he's truly a "late bloomer".
  2. What About the Youth Movement? - We've got 2 or 3 guys not just knocking on the door, but beating it down.  Will they prove that they are NHL-worthy?  How do we get playing time (if deserved) for these talented youngsters?  Right now our roster has room for exactly 1 forward (if you assume that Stewart and Ponikarovsky take positions in the top 9).  Where does Zac Dalpe fit (given JR's insistence that he's ready and should make the team)?  What does that do to Samson and Bowman's chances (not to mention psyche's)?  This is truly a conundrum.  It is hard to envision a scenario where Dalpe doesn't start the season in the top 6.  If that is the case, I would argue it is equally hard to see where Samson, Bowman, and Boychuk fit....or how they fit if they do.  Frankly, a very good case could be made to have LaRose play on the 4th line thereby freeing up a position for Jiri Tlusty on the third line. And I just don't see room for Bobby Sanguinetti on this team today. Lastly, would the Canes carry 13 forwards and 7 defensemen?  If so would they do more of a "rotation" playing the hot hand when appropriate?  That is a strategy I wouldn't mind seeing.
  3. Whither the Defense? - Let's just assume that Joslin and Harrison will rotate in and out of the press box.  That gives the Hurricanes 3 pairings of a more offensively minded blueliner and one that is more of a "defensive" defenseman.  Will that cut it?  In my own calculations, it does appear that the defense got better with the arrival of Bryan Allen (and, perhaps, with the increased playing time of Joslin), giving up fewer shots per game and fewer "goals against" per game as well.  But let's look at this in a different light...what if the defense can clear the puck out of our zone more effectively?  That too happened with more frequency following the trade deadline.  However, I would like to think that we would be better at leveraging the offensive abilities that exist on our blueline.  Jamie McBain, in particular, is a year older and more mature.  Kaberle's passing ability is widely heralded and respected.  Pitkanen is solidified as a Cane for another 3 years, so that should help as well.  Believe what you will, I think that this will be an under-rated defense that gets the job done, not with pure grit, but with finesse and skill.

So now for the fun part...the Predictions...how will this team fare this year?  What will be the high points?  The Why's?  The Wherefore's? And all the rest...I'll start off with just a few of my own (I recall responding to a prediction thread last year and I was woefully off the mark, but that's why they call 'em predictions).

  1. The Hurricanes will make the playoffs, finishing 6th in the East.  This team just feels too close not to over achieve just a bit.  I think the combo of Stewart and Poni will more than make up for Cole's lost offensive presence.  I think that both our PK and PP will improve and contribute to us winning an extra 3 or 4 games.  Add my earlier statement that I believe Boucher will chip in for an additional 3 wins and the Canes should end up with over 100 points.
  2. Carolina will have one of the highest scoring defenses in the league.  Sort of an easy prediction to make, but if Kaberle brings last year's scoring to the table, McBain improves in his sophomore year, and Pitkanen puts the puck on net a few more times, this could easily prove true.
  3. Skinner has a similar or even slightly better year.  Defenses will be laying in wait for young Jeff.  But this kid dedicated himself to an even more grueling conditioning program this summer.  He's working to improve his skating.  And he may end up on Staal's line by the end of the year.  All of these things add up to a 70 point season IMHO.
  4. Staal likes his linemates and rediscovers his scoring groove. Not that he ever really lost it, but Eric should really be scoring closer to 90 points than 70 points.  Add a sniper or a playmaker (either one) and that becomes a reality.  Staal is a highly under-rated passer, even if he's a sniper himself.  Assume an additional skill guy is going to surface for his line...whether Skinner, Stewart, Dalpe, or "an as yet unknown".  The question is whether Staal ends up with 35 goals and 55 assists or 50 goals and 40 assists.  Either one is a win for the Carolina Hurricanes.
  5. Two of the youngsters (not named Skinner) make their mark.  At first I was going to say "Dalpe and another youngster...", but there are too many really good young players (sub-25) on this team to give "can't miss" status to one over another.  I believe that Zac has a great shot at being that phenom.  But we all forget about guys like Jiri Tlusty who has demonstrated significant, albeit inconsistent promise.  Add in to the mix the undeniable hunger of Drayson Bowman, and the "put up or shut up" pressure on Boychuk and you have the makings of a real competition in camp.  You also have the potential for break out years stemming from that type of desire.
  6. Paul Maurice is the head coach for the entire year.  Given my prediction of a playoff run, I think Mo's job is safe.  However, I wouldn't be surprised to see him "ease" into a front office position if things start out slowly.  I just feel like he knows he's under the microscope, can't necessarily retain systems with which he's comfortable, and will be more flexible than in year's past.  The mere addition of Tim Brent should recommend increased 4th line time, for example.  If, as I suspect will happen after a month or two, one of our other 4th line forwards plays their way onto the 3rd line, that would indicate that one Chad LaRose will rightly take his place back on the 4th line (even if over-paid to do so).  But if that occurs, that line becomes viewed as significantly more dependable and, therefore, deserving of more minutes.  I would not be surprised to see 8 minutes a game for our 4th line by December (if one of Tlusty, Bowman, Samson, or Boychuk plays their way up).
  7. JR will make a significant trade prior to the trade deadline.  This year this team was constructed for "creative asset management".  We have too many good young players.  We have a really nice "support cast" on great contracts.  And I predict that we will force ourselves into the conversation as one of the better teams in the East. When that occurs, the "one last piece" argument will surface.  Jim Rutherford is cagey and he won't wait until the deadline to make a deal.  It will happen and it will include at least one player on our side that nobody suspects.

Well, there you have it.  I'm on the record with my thoughts (such as they are) and my predictions (now too easily recalled for future flaming).  How about you?  Let's hear your ideas, thoughts, and hopes.

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WOW!!

You sure covered a lot of ground. That being the case, I can also say that I can’t disagree with you on anything that is of any consequence. One thing, I’m not so sure about the Canes accumulating over 100 points. Also 6th place seems high when you first look at it, but it’s in the realm of possibility especially if Philly and the Rangers don’t gell. Very good analysis worth reading by all Canes fans.

by FoxtrotSierra on Aug 15, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

nicely written Fanpost, especially for your first time.

Editing Manager of Canes Country.com

by Bob Wage on Aug 15, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you both for your kind words. Just hoping to spark some conversation during the summer doldrums….

by NotOpie on Aug 15, 2011 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent Article and Observations

   Great job on the post. I think Victor Rask has to be included in the discussion as well; even if he is not necessarily ready this season for the NHL. Rask has been caught in some internal politics with the Swedish teams for reasons I don’t understand. He had an excellent tournament; and I found it telling that when Sweden played the U.S. in the last game, when the game was on the line, Rask was playing center for some crucial shifts.

   I am very pleased with Stewart, Brent, and Ponikarovsky. Dalpe, I predict, is going to be much improved from training camp onwards. Unless LaRose is quickly put onto the fourth line, I don’t see either Bowman or Boychuk being kept up on the roster at the start of the season. I also think Tlusty has to have a great camp or he’s likely to be traded. I like Tlusty and think he could easily become this season’s most improved player.

    Defensively, we won’t know who will be the odd man out until after the pre-season. It looks as if Jim Rutherford is going to emphasize puck movement and figures Gleason, Allen, and Joslin can provide enough grit to overcome any lack of physicality by Kaberle, Pitkanen, and McBain. Harrison also adds grit to the defense.

   It will be a fierce competition at training camp; and I won’t be shocked if there are trades made after training camp ends.

by abramsdoug on Aug 15, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

On the D...

It really did seem like carrying seven was a legit option, using matchups or good play to dictate the scratches.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Youth Movement...Again...

Thanks for the props, AD. I admit I didn’t get to see Rask during the tournament, but have heard nothing but good things about him, especially his toughness. I also think that with our recent drafting prowess, I’m inclined to give JR and Ronnie and the scouting staff the benefit of the doubt. However, we are historically a “dues paying” type of club and youngsters need to do much to prove themselves. I agree that the path for the likes of Bowman, Boychuk, et al is effectively blocked.

Tlusty remains a very interesting player to me as he has all the skills to excel. He clearly has spent a significant amount of time w/physical issues. My sense is that Tlusty is a bit less likely to be traded if and until he redemonstrates the skill set that allowed him his “1st round” status.

Camp is going to be incredibly interesting and I agree with the “early trade” potential. I’ll also go out on a limb and state that I believe the brain trust feels that we are a high caliber “sleeper”. It would not surprise me at all if they believe that we can be a true contender (with a little young player development). It just feels a little like 2005 all over again, this mismash of a team w/scoring, grit, and speed. In my mind much of our potential success hinges on how well Poni plays this year. If he can regain a bit of his scoring touch, if he can be a big body in front of the net, and if he can dish about 30 or 35 assists, then we will gain a weapon that we haven’t really had in a while.

I’m not sure we need a ton of physicality on defense this year as I believe we will utilize puck movement and finesse to get the job done….not always a popular style on this board.

by NotOpie on Aug 16, 2011 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think Sanguinetti could make the big team? Maybe play on certain match up or Pp (right handed shot, fast)

by Crazychf on Aug 16, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it will be tough.

With seven other guys seeming to have locked up spots through one-way deals, I don’t see why they’d carry him without having an injury to clear a roster spot (if not two.)

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Aug 22, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

'Canes schedule to start

Lightning
Caps
Devils
Bruins
Sabres
Bruins
Blues
Jets
Sens
Blackhawks
Flyers
Lightning
Caps
Stars
Devils
Rangers
Pens
Flyers
Canadiens
Sabres

Of those teams, on paper at least it looks like the Blues, Jets, and Sens are winnable at first blush, with maybe the Rangers as well. The other teams on the list look tough. If we don’t improve upon last year’s play, we could be in for a slooooooooooow start.

Of Maurice, Karmanos said: "I’m happy Paul is back but he’s going to be judged the same way as any other coach. We need to win more consistently."

by Sergeant Stinky on Aug 16, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Good point. I’m less concerned about the quality of the other teams, mainly because as of right now everything is just stats and most teams can be beaten, but I’m more concerned about the potential of these teams combined with the fact that MO teams start slow. Let’s hope that is not the case this year.

by sunshine12 on Aug 16, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see us going...

….11-7-3…games against the Caps and Sabres, for example have that unpredictable emotion factor that really allows me to assume we’re going to at least win 1 against each of those teams…I kind of feel the same way about the Lightning….who knows about the rest. Right now all teams are equal…lots of potential and everything to prove.

by NotOpie on Aug 16, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great post start to finish, NotOpie

Thanks for providing such an intriguing look at the coming season and such a definite forecast. If I were doing a forecast of points on the season, I’d have to use a plus or minus sign and a two digit number after it. I’m particularly intrigued since the Canes finally did away with their size disadvantage and shouldn’t get pushed around.

Like you, I’m hopeful that Stewart and Ponikarovsky will make up for Cole’s loss. Where I hit a roadblock is in guessing how Mo will put the lines together and whether the top 3 lines, regardless of how Mo makes them up, will look like and produce like the top 3 lines on a playoff team.

The first line is the biggest concern. If Staal’s productivity falls way off with his new line mates, things could get pretty bad. If Staal thrives, things could get really, really good.

by curiouscanesfan on Aug 16, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

good point

if you have a productive staal line to go with a productive skinner line, and then add a finisher to the sutter line, wow, potential with a capital P. If Staal line tanks, however, then the other teams start to focus more on skinner, and the whole thing falls apart.

Of Maurice, Karmanos said: "I’m happy Paul is back but he’s going to be judged the same way as any other coach. We need to win more consistently."

by Sergeant Stinky on Aug 16, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly my fear- if the new Staal line doesn’t work out, defenses can focus on Skinner. And if the only response the Canes have to that is to move Skinner to Staal’s line, the Canes may have only one scoring line. It’s imperative that at least one of Stewart, Ponikarovsky, Dalpe, Boychuk or somebody turn into a viable scoring threat on the first line next to Staal. It would be great if there are two guys besides Staal who can score at least at a moderate level.

If Staal’s new linemates get off to a slow start and a month into the season, Mo moves LaRose to the first or second line to provide an offensive spark, it’s all over. On the third line, LaRose is OK. On the fourth, LaRose is great. But as a key player on a scoring line, LaRose is not comparable to what other contending teams have. Both the Staal and Skinner lines suffered with LaRose on the wing last year.

Somebody has to provide an offensive spark early or we’ll see a re-run of last season, where Mo reverts to the familiar and 5 on 5 scoring is a problem. My impression is that the Canes got better 5 on 5 toward the end when they had Cole and Stillman on the first line and moved Jokinen to the second with Skinner and Ruutu. Two of that top six are gone. Move Jokinen to the first line to help Staal and you break up a very effective second line.

Life will be much easier if the Canes don’t lose 5 on 5 and have to make up for it on the power play. I doubt the Canes are going to have as big an advantage in number of power plays this season with Stewart and Allen bashing into people, Gleason healthy and bashing people more than last season, and teams playing Skinner more carefully because they know he draws so many penalties..

I’d be thrilled to see Staal and Skinner on the same powerhouse scoring line someday, but that’s dependent on having a second line that can score effectively without Skinner. We’ve hardly had glimpses of Dalpe, Boychuk and Bowman on scoring lines so they are just about complete unknowns. We have no idea how well Stewart and Ponikarovsky will fit in with Staal. Stewart had a breakthrough season last year but scored only 14 goals. Ponikarovsky had a 5-year string scoring about 20 goals, but last year he had only 5. The Canes desperately need a very pleasant surprise from at least one top prospect or new acquisition.

by curiouscanesfan on Aug 16, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's Mo's real issue

Getting the team to gel, developing team chemistry, finding the new teams style of play, getting everyone compfrtable with the system, style and each other.

With or without an A last year we lost a big piece of team chemistry, leadership, and mentorship in Cole. We’ve got a lot of new to assimilate. We’ve got a new defensive coordinator to figure out and learn from.

And we’ve got a lot of what if talent we need to develop, hatch, grow, expand, nuture, whatever—or we will not succeed.

Poni must get comfortable, feel like he’s capable, able and allowed to be a scorer again. He has to have the wwork ethic ands faith in himself, but the support of coaches to do so.

Stewart needs to break the 20 goal plateau, provide physicality to support Ruutu as a hitter and provide net presence. He must build on lat years success and his promise of being a power forward.

Skinner must continue to adapt and deal with big defenders to find a way to score or set up others. He’s shown an ability to do that already, and so far I haven’t seen any indication he’s taking abything for granted and will not probably slump—which is critical for this team.

Sutter found his defensive acumen. He’s previously shown he can also score. He needs to figure out how to be a scorer while keeping the defensive accumen he posesses. 20 Goals from him goes a real long way.

Dalpe, Boychuck, Bowman. One needs to step up, figure out the NHL speed, physicality and ferocity and become a 25 goal scorer. Each has the talent, but which can find the true pro quality to do so in the NHL. Frontrunner is Dalpe.

Tlusty—tantalizing hints, initial scoring success thena drop—can he rebound, can he take the “defensive responsibility first” trick he jhas demonstrated last year, but still re-find and bring his scoring talent?? With his size and hands he coudl be a 20 goal guy as well. Will he be?

All these young players, all needing development, confidence, support, and TOI to develop—or not…

…without these guys progressing and developing into NHL scorers, we will not make the playoffs. Is our coaching staff (not just Mo) able to get that from these guys??

by Squeaky83 on Aug 18, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Sutter scores 20 as the #3 center...

There’s no reason we should not be a top-six seed. I don’t see it happening for several years, if at all.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Aug 22, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends on who he’s matched with on that line

Of Maurice, Karmanos said: "I’m happy Paul is back but he’s going to be judged the same way as any other coach. We need to win more consistently."

by Sergeant Stinky on Aug 25, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the compliment…Staal’s line really defines the potential for success of the other lines. Even though Mo mixes and matches, if he has one or two producing lines, there will be much less tinkering IMHO. When the Canes were/are at their best, they have 3 lines that can score and the 4th line provides tough match ups (speed or scoring ability, etc.). My hope and contention is that one of Stewart or Poni are going to provide notable scoring, the defense is going to provide notable scoring, and one youngster is going to provide notable scoring. If most or at least some of that doesn’t happen, then I feel my predictions become a challenge.

by NotOpie on Aug 16, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

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