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2010-11 Canes Country Exit Analysis: Derek Joslin

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The past season will certainly go down as a strange one for the Carolina Hurricanes as far as trades were concerned. While the Hurricanes didn't make any blockbuster deals, they stuck to their usual script and tried to acquire bits and pieces that filled out team needs. One particular storyline seemed a little more entertaining than the rest though.

The Hurricanes signed troubled defenseman Anton Babchuk to a new deal July 1, leaving some to believe that the Canes and Babchuk could start a fresh relationship. However, about three months into the season Jim Rutherford proved otherwise by trading Babchuk, along with winger Tom Kostopolous, to the Calgary Flames for established defenseman Ian White and prospect Brett Sutter. Then just when fans were getting used to White's game - poof - he was gone. Rutherford traded White to the San Jose Sharks for a second-round draft pick. The deal seemed strange until a second, seemingly codependent deal was announced. The Hurricanes had acquired a young defenseman named Derek Joslin in exchange for future considerations.

Joslin, 24, was the Sharks' fifth-round draft pick in 2005 and seemed to be an interesting NHL prospect. He's listed at 6'1" and 210 lbs. but it almost seems like he played bigger than that. The young defenseman was in the lineup only a day after the trade went through and in only his second game he had his first two points with the club. 

So what does Canes Country think of Derek Joslin? More after the jump.

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Derek Joslin

#0 / Defenseman / Carolina Hurricanes

6-1

210

Mar 17, 1987



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2010 - Derek Joslin 34 2 7 9 5 10 1 0 1 34

 

The Good:

As mentioned before, Joslin is a big kid who can throw his weight around. At a very young age Joslin seems to be ahead of the learning curve as far as his offensive game is concerned. While there is still work to be done, Joslin showed promise as far as his timing of when to pinch and when to stay back was concerned. While he only ended up with one goal (a game-winner against the Red Wings), the ability could be seen in his game that will probably be helped by the likes of Joni Pitkanen and Tomas Kaberle

While Joslin shared a similar stat line with the Sharks and Canes last season (17 games for both clubs; 4 points for the Sharks and 5 for Carolina) the major difference came with his +/-. Joslin was a -2 at the time of his trade and ended his run with the Canes as a +7 (which would have been higher if not for a -3 effort against the Lightning on the last day of the season, two being empty-net goals). Only Brandon Sutter claimed a higher +/- than Joslin's.

The Bad:

Hard to say anything bad about the guy really. He came in and adjusted to the Canes style quicker than expected. For an unproven guy, he sure made a statement with the Canes. 

That being said, Joslin - like most young defensemen - needs to improve on the defensive half of his game for next season. Limiting bad passing and whiffed shots are going to lead to less turnovers and less odd-man chances Cam Ward has to face. Also, Joslin has the tendency to let players get behind him along the boards. The quicker he can grasp the mentality of "go for the puck or go for the player" the faster his development will be.

Lastly, fans would probably say he needs to play a little more physical. Fans love to see guys being thrown into the boards and smashing the glass. Not everyone can be Tuomo Ruutu though. Joslin does need to find his balance. He needs to find that level of physicality that best represents him and his game so he feels comfortable with it. Sometimes players go out of their way to make the big hit and it ends up burning them in the long run.

The Money:

The ink might still be fresh on Derek Joslin's new contract. He signed a 2-year deal for $1.4 million this offseason. Any time a team can have an NHL defenseman under contract with a cap hit of $700,000, it's usually a good thing. The contract works both ways as this will be Joslin's biggest contract of his young career and his first one-way deal.

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How would you grade Derek Joslin's performance last season?
A
86 votes
B
241 votes
C
64 votes
D
5 votes
F
0 votes

396 votes | Poll has closed

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Loved Joslin's play as a 'Cane. High B.

Poor guy, though, not having a picture in our sweater. I thought he was a great pickup by Rutherford, and I think he can be a solid lineup fixture in the bottom pair who could peak as a #4 kind of guy. As a young, cheap player, that’s a great asset.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Aug 3, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Right

I couldn’t find a good pic with a Canes sweater. Luckily Jamie saved the day with one of her pics (which look as good as any I’ve ever seen btw)

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by Lee Phillips on Aug 4, 2011 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad you got to see them. I think they’re better than many of the professionals because she captures the player. She has a gift. Many sports photographers’ primary goal is to capture the action – which is less useful and versatile other than game recaps. And that’s not to say her action shots are not spectacular too.

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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 4, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay now I’m blushing.

Thanks for the very kind words. Much appreciated :)

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by Jamie Kellner on Aug 4, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen.

Badass shot.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Aug 6, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're Right Lee

over all there is NOT that much to really complain or rag on the guy about..but with a new defence coach who is as good as it gets…Joslin should improve even more which means more action and points from him…hopefully…I gave Joslin a high B as well…thanks again…

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by CaniacSteve on Aug 3, 2011 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd love to see him develop more.

B right now, maybe A later – hopefully a change in defense coaching will lead to Ward (or Boucher) needing to do less work in net, and Joslin can be a part of that.

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by pithy on Aug 3, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Joslin

I thought he played well after the talk was when the trade was made for him was he wasn’t a good skater. He proved everyone wrong. Now that Dave Lewis is hear, he should be able to improve more for the better.

Does anyone know how many Canes games FSN is going to broadcast this season. I wish they would show all 82 now that Atlanta is gone up north. Seems to me PK should look into that.

by skinnerthewinner on Aug 3, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

A for Joslin

I love Joslin’s game. He is fast, confident, and hits like a tractor trailer. He also has a very powerful shot. He does a great job of clearing the crease as well. He makes good decisions with the puck. He’s the strongest 210 lbs I’ve seen in a long time; but I suspect he is more like 225 lbs. He’s just what the doctors ordered for the Hurricanes. I also believe he will continue to improve as he gets more ice time.

by abramsdoug on Aug 3, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, Weber did ok at the arb. hearing.

by Go_Shelf on Aug 3, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m OK with Weber being the highest cap hit for a defenseman.

If Nashville can lock him up long term next year, and Suter/Rinne, they will be a force to be reckoned with for awhile.

(Please put them in the SE division NHL.)

by Iggy Reilly on Aug 3, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worth every penny IMO. I wish we could have Weber on the Canes for that. I think Nashville has put themselves in a precarious position. By all reports, they probably offended Weber with their offer of $4.75 million a year and now have Rinne, Suter, and Weber all to sign next year as Free Agents (UFA for Rinne and Surer). Wonder if they have the cash to keep themselves together.

Also wonder what value Weber holds now if Nashville decides to deal him. I think right around 29 other teams would be interested.

by JussiJuice on Aug 3, 2011 5:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That is just how arbitration is though, each side makes their case. The club will try to downplay the upside to any player out there when at the table for arbitration.

I definitely think its a little damaging to have your captain make it to arbitration.

by Iggy Reilly on Aug 3, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, its a little sketchy to have that be the final answer. However, if they were just offering him 4 and change that was clearly a lowball. Id take him over pitkanen or kaberle any day of the week and the THN article says the preds thought he was worth 4.75, which was probably a little insulting (note: i have no idea what their budget or financial situation is, maybe that played a part in their offer?)

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by DaveLovesBier on Aug 3, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a bad negotiation strategy by Nashville from the start. Either Nashville needed to decide they were paying $7 million and budgeted that amount for a long time for Weber, or they needed to trade him and get a Glen Wesley kind of return. By basically saying their number was $250,000.00 over his present contract, Nashville has zero credibility. There are worst days for Weber than to be told he is going to be paid $7.5 million this year and that he will likely have to go through the same process next season. If he has an excellent season, his salary won’t be reduced and may well go up. I am skeptical that Nashville can afford to keep him. On the other hand, if Nashville had been sensible and offered a long term deal that averaged $7 million a year, they would have one of the best defensemen in the NHL locked down. As it is, Nashville may or may not be able to keep Weber.

by abramsdoug on Aug 3, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Puck Daddy just did a pretty thorough recap of how this happened and where it’s going. If Predators aren’t Cup worthy, Shea Weber’s leaving Nashville

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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 3, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

what happens with Weber’s going to be interesting, I don’t see him staying in Nashville past this year. There’s now a healthy distrust/fracture between Weber and ownership/mgmt + Weber just fell outside of Nashville’s budget strategy. How much can they get for him? Top forward prospect, a 1st, and a 2nd. There’s a number of teams that would go that high.

by Go_Shelf on Aug 4, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

So true. The comparisons to what Minny got for Burns have got to be spinning in Poile’s head.

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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 4, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to make that point and also point out that what both bring to the table is very similar, which makes the Burns 5-year extension look a lot more reasonable.

by Go_Shelf on Aug 4, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the Canes, I think it would take something like Boychuk + McBain + 1st Round in 2012… Maybe even an additional roster player like LaRose. Although I doubt he quite fits the Canes budget either. Weber would make a number of current fringe Playoff teams legit contenders, including us.

by JussiJuice on Aug 4, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doughty’s got to be psyched

by Go_Shelf on Aug 4, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gave an A to Joslin. Like his size, drive, age, pretty much everything about him. I think he won me over standing up for Skinner every chance he got at the end of last year. Perfect #5 or #6 D with potential to be better.

by JussiJuice on Aug 3, 2011 5:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

B

i would have graded him highers accept…
a) wasn’t here that long
b) whole team was on a tear the last 20 games or so.

But I liked his play. Thought he was solid. Going to give McBain a run for his money in ice time next season which will be good for both players.

Also, I found it interesting the path of Babchuk
Canes draft Dany Richmond in the 2nd round, trade him for Babchuk, then trade Babs for White and a spare Sutter, Trade White for a 2nd round pick. Seems like the investment in Babchuk has come full circle.

by Caniac1026 on Aug 3, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Enjoyed the write-up!

Joslin seems like a solid guy with some promise.

Although I must be mis-remembering, but I could have sworn we first picked up Joslin from the Sharks, and then later made the Ian White trade.

Phoblographer

by Jamie Kellner on Aug 3, 2011 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

They were technically executed as separate trades...

But the moves were one in the same.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Aug 6, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps. But that’s not the way it was represented in the article either.

Phoblographer

by Jamie Kellner on Aug 7, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the sake of technicality...

The trades went down on 2/18. Joslin’s acquisition was announced at 2:55. White’s departure was announced at 4:03.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Aug 8, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is what I said in my post. Thanks for confirming.

Phoblographer

by Jamie Kellner on Aug 8, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Liked what I saw in his short time here. I think he’s earned a spot on the third pairing to start the year since he played well for us down the stretch. Wasn’t given a heavy workload but he did great with the assignments he was given. Also like that he contributed on the powerplay and penalty kill.

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by MyFriendCorey on Aug 3, 2011 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Good point.

Special teams versatility is a great asset from a guy low on your depth chart.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Aug 6, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

B

Seemed pretty smart ond stout on the ice as well as unflappable. When he first came to the club, I looked up his fights. He can throw it around.
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by Caniac233 on Aug 3, 2011 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for this – appreciated. Joslin is an intriguing piece of the puzzle going forward. We don’t have anyone else quite like him at the moment.

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by Carolyn Christians on Aug 3, 2011 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Change

It’s also worth noting that he will wear number 27 this year with Boucher getting 33.

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by Lee Phillips on Aug 4, 2011 6:47 AM EDT reply actions  

One of the things that impressed me with Joslin was how he jumped right in when he got here. I know he had to learn the guys and the system but he didn’t seem hesitant at all to jump right in and make a contribution. He seemed to come in knowing he had to prove something and wanted to earn his spot on the roster. It wasn’t flashy. It was more like “Yeah I’m the new guy that you haven’t heard of but I am here to play.” I like that!

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by Esbee on Aug 4, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Gave him an A!

I thought for just being dropped into things late in the season, he performed well beyond what was expected! Glad to see hes going to be around a bit longer. I liked how he played, didnt seem to back down from anyone, and even got a pair of goals to boot.

Defensemen take a bit to acclimate to NHL style play, and I think hes just hitting his stride now. I expect to see more good stuff from him next season.

by AG74683 on Aug 5, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

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